Guilty, but why did Erap's lawyers file that motion?

Bakit si Erap lang ang nakaranas ng ganito? sa dami ng taong malaki ang ebidensya s anumalya at kurakot, bakit hindi sila hinatulan. na jan s fidel ramos, mike arroyo, nani perez at marami pang iba... anong klaseng hustisya meron tayo? Araw mo ngayon Gloria, lasapin mo. Gahaman k rin s position. At marami ka rin anumalya tulad ng "hello garci" Malapit na rin ang araw ng pag subsob mo. Hindi ka makatao... hindi ka patas... kaya't s press release ni bunye na "sad moment ang araw na to" mga plastic kayo jan s Malacañang... Makakarma din kayo sa ginawa nyo kay Erap... Kung may pagkakamali man cya, napagdusahan n nya un ng maraming taon. Buti nga cya sa kabila ng lahat tumutulong cya sa mahihirap. Eh kayo jan s malacañang, mga kaalyado ni Gloria, puro kurakot pero hindi man lang magawa tumulong sa taong bayan... mga kurakot at nuknukan kayo ng sinungaling administrasyong arroyo.

e pano si chavit?...ano ring hatol sa kanya?...mas marami rin syang nakulimbat sa jueteng at tobacco excise stocks?..kawawa naman si erap,masyadong napulitika...samantalang yung iba jan.."BETRAYAL OF PUBLIC TRUST(Hello Garci)" and corruption nakaupo pa rin sa Malakanyang...kaawaawa na si Juan Dela Cruz...

Has anyone else noticed that the justices forgot that the death penalty has been abolished? Review the reading by the clerk of the verdict and you will see what I'm referring to.

i guess that is their whole point - to further politicize this circus, to keep it from dying a natural death.
maybe they thought the supreme court will not give in to the media's request that they be allowed to do a live coverage. and so since the supreme court, but without the the mug shots of their clients, they just had to create something out of the situation to make sure they still have a way to agitate their taongbayan.
hay, i just hope these people move on. he's guilty all, right, as we, the other taongbayan, know all along. let's just move on and stop egging the adminitration for a fight. and stop testing our patience. this is getting so old, it's anticlimactic already

the decision maybe right but in order for us to appreciate it we must put in jail all the polotician who commits plunder

Was it the motion of Estrada's lawyers to read only the dispositives?

That could be a tactical benefit to the current administration, and an inadvertent blessing to us. A lengthy reading would have given opportunity to gather crowds, agitate people and set them up for an explosion! It could trigger another EDSA 3.

It's a job well done...Though it serves as a lesson for the rest especially with the present president. But do you think only Erap???

They are hiding the details of the case obviously--a very good move on Erap's defense lawyer if they have the intention to incite rebellion. The verdict was beyond reasonable doubt but the people would certainly have to rely on the information on the dispositives. Lack of info + high politics=volatile situation.

as long as politicians will be in their power, they always evolve into crocodiles. let's face the fact that we live in a sucked up country.

chavit singson should also hang in the gallows, look at this man he even had the face of trying to be a senator, shame on him, he really stinks!

ERAP has it...

GLORIA must GO to JAIL for DEATH PENALTY!!!

EXTRA JUDICIAL KILLINGS!!!
HELLO GARCI SCANDAL!!!
FERTILIZER SCAM!!!

Weather, weather lng yan. Walang kumpakumpare! Nung unang binanggit ni Erap ang salitang yan nung manumpa sya sa tungkulin sa harap ng taong bayan. Biglang nagulat siguro si Ginoong Chavit at na pa teka"? uhhhmm.. parang ako yun ha? Ngayon walong taon na ang lumipas at eto na.. Bumagsak sya sa kamay ng kumpare nya. "guilty, Kung naging Matalino lng sana si Erap at hindi sya naging Mayabang noong nakaupo p sya. Siguro hangang ngyon sya p rin ang nakaupo at di nya sasapitin ang ganitong sitwasyon. Idolo sya ng aking mga magulang. Pumanaw n sila, pumanaw n rin si Erap sa aking pakiramdam..

Where's Jocjoc Bolante?

where's Nani Perez?

If Erap is tried and court and jailed...
how about the 2 above mentioned?

Let this be a warning to all the big fish particularly those in the government who are corrupt. To the critics of the Arroyo administration, gather enough evidence and bring it to the courts. Don't just talk and talk like Wowowee, act.

Bakit nyo ginaganyan si Erap, kung may sala sya pinagdusahan na niya!! tama si liz decordoba ang daming ma-impluwensiyang tao na nakakalusot sa batas mas masahol pa!!! nagagalit ako kung bakit ganyan ang hustisya natin.

May nangyaring malaking scam noong year 2000, kung natatandaan nyo yung ASB investment scam na kinurakot ng iisang tao lamang... si Luke Roxas!! nagnakaw ng mahigit sa P 10-bilyon!!! Nagsampa ng kaso ang mga biktima sa DOJ pero bimalewala ni NANI Perez!!! gago talaga yan. Siya ang dapat bitayin!!

ayaw lang nila(erap lawyers) malaman ng taong bayan kung ano ano evidensya ang meron para mahatulan ng guilty beyond reasonable doubt si erap......

who si next, sana marami pang sumunod na mahatulan.........

i find it so sad, that erap loyalist are too blind too look at the bigger picture. erap "IS" guilty. after 6 years of legal manipulation of his paid goons (his lawyers). he has finally recieved his long overdue conviction.

pero anong punishment doon??? HOUSE ARREST SA TANAY, RIZAL. wow! tindi nga ng sakripisyo ng idol nyo

guilty? d naman na prove ng prosecution beyond reasonable doubt na guilty si pres. erap...victim lang siya ng politics philippine style because they cant believe and accept that erap will be the president of this oligarch country...gma should be put in jail instead together with those corrupt and inutil allies justice gonzales, bunye, ermita, jdv, chavit, nograles,arroyos and etal-para fair sila dapat expedite din yung mga graft cases ni jocjoc, nani perez,abalos, arroyos...truth will come out not now but very soon and wrath will scourge the govt of fake pres. gma

cmon what more can the estrada family ask for? even jalosjos was imprisoned in bilibid. house arrest in tanay for 40 yrs (reclusion perpetua) means comfortable, cozy and still very much lavish. aba eh makipagpalit kaya yung iba sa kanya? imagine, a big resort like house with all the fancy trappings and amenities. me mga DH, cook, etc, me swimming ,me home theater system pa siguro where he can watch and enjoy all the dvds he wants. and then dalawin pa siya lahat ng mga kids and grandkids niya, not to mention his drinking buddies. aba, ano ba ito? sentensiya/parusa or long term vacation. pasalamat siya. in south korea, 2 presidents were sentenced to prison for graft and corruption. justice delayed is justice denied. pero ang malungkot dapat binasa yung marathon 1000pp decision para naunawaan natin how they arrived at those verdicts. detailed kumbaga. at maarte ang sagisag ha? Ano ba gusto niya, kesyo no special treatment for hs client. gusto niya drecho sa munti. halatang nainis yung 2 justices. mwestra pa nga ng mwestra yung kamay nung nasa extreme left. sabi tuloy nung lady justice, na sana it wilol end well what they started out well.

Thank goodness it's over...for now.

dapat kasama ni erap si chavit, arroyo, at ang lahat ng politician..sino ba hindi nagnanakaw sa gobyerno? malaking kalokohan ang proseso ng justice dito..habang ang iba ay nagtitiis sa noodles, may mga taong kumakain lang sa malacanang at nagtatago sa likod ng malalaking container trucks..

I so hate GMA and her galamays. May you all die. Shame on u!

erap's lawyers motioned only for the dispositives to be read. that was truly intriguing. it made me think that perhaps there were details in the case that they didn't want publicized that will allow people to completely say that the verdict was justified. with no other facts given, erap die-hards will continue to pledge their loyalty to him because of the continued illusion that he is not guilty.

ERAP IS GUILTY!. Finally the long arm of the law finally catches a Big crook and restore my faith in our justice system. But why the special privilege of staying in his Tanay resort? HE MUST BE IMMEDIATELY JAILED IN MUNTINGLUPA WHERE ORDINARY CONVICTS STAYED WHILE WAITING FOR THEIR FINAL CONVICTIONS. As Mayor Lim said " THE LAW MUST APPLY TO ALL OR NONE AT ALL"

here's a fact about our country we can't deny:
MONEY + POLITICAL POWER = UNTOUCHABLE

The Filipino people should realize that no matter how it appears, the unexplained wealth of Estrada should be taken into the over all perspective. In the end, it is not our utter disgust with PGMA that should cloud our public opinion, I know how it sucks to be governed by morons and corrupt government official but for Heaven's sake, let us not be swayed with the populist agenda and propaganda of Erap's camp.

For some reason, we should use our brains that evidences were taken out of the bag and let us not once forget that we knew of these wealth to be there, it actually remains unexplained. Don't you ever take your thoughts out of it.

I do not think it is a battle between PGMA and Erap but instead a victory for the people that at least, one of them, were finally taken into justice.

I have no single admiration or anything positive for the GMA administration but deep inside me, I do not want to just erase from my memory the blatant fraud, luxuries and kickbacks that existed during the Erap administration. It is a matter of punishing at least one of the evils, and hope to God that the others would be pushed to justice as well.

The day of reckoning shall come too, someday.

To all ye lovers of the elite, rejoice. For you have just witnessed the fall of a common man. A common man you hate for being merely a common man, an undergrad you think not at par with your idol you love so much because you think she is an expert on economy, a graduate of economics in the USofA. Go on, continue your rejoicing, love your idol, love your elitist kinds, love Malu Fernandez, love everythoing they do, say and represent. Stay in your pedestals, until you all fall. You think all of your kind are the smartest for reasons of your degrees, and your bulging pockets, the common man you always perceive as dumb, as if the amount of money in your pocket is always equal to the amount of brain in your head, degree synonymous to intelligence. Go on, kick the common man while he is down, for his being common is the only real reason why you hate him. You hate him for being elected by the people as your president, it touches your ego, and you hurt so much inside to see an ordinary man you perceive as not as smart as yourselves attaining success and sitting up there, trying his darn best to govern inspite of his handicap. You are so hurt, two years was too long for you to wait to see how an ordinary man govern. And yet, here you are, loving your idol, tongue in cheek, love all the defects, in all those long eight years, until 2010, maybe beyond, maybe forever.

MAYROON NAMAN KAYANG MALINAW NA PRUWEBA SA GARCI,IYAN ANG NAPAPALA
NATIN SA KAKAPANOOD NF TFC AT PINOY TV KABABASA NG MGA TABLOIDS.
KAWAWANG PILIPINAS...MAG ISIP ISIP NAMAN HINDI KUNG ANONG IDIKTA SA ATIN AY PANINIWALAAN KAAGAD.

it seems your formula doesn't really add up. erap has political power (his wife was a senator, his son is a senator, another son is mayor of a major city, and -- if surveys are to be believed -- he has the masses behind him). erap CERTAINLY has the money. but it turns out he's NOT untouchable.

Erap is convicted of jueteng kickbacks.
Bakit walang nakakulong o may kaso na gambling lord na pinangalingan ng pera.Sigurado naman na alam ni Singzon kung sino ang mga tao na yun dahil sya ang bagman ayon sa kanya.
Dapat maestablish din na may jueteng lord muna bago mo malaman na may lagayan.

Kung lumabas na "guilty" si ERAP, dapat ay makasuhan din si Singson kasi malinaw na talagang involved din siya sa graft and corruption dahil sa jueteng

Oo nga dahil "Accessory to the crime" din si Chavit Singson.

Nasaan ang hustisya sa Pilipinas? Hindi pantay-pantay

kong c erap na una sumunod na sila .... malaki pa naman ang tanay resthouse ... kawawang pilipinas ninakawan na nilapastangan pa. kaya magnanakaw ang tao dahil sila ang nagpapanakaw ........ grabe na toooooooo

I read somewhere that the verdict has 1000 pages in its entirety. Make your conclusion based on that.

Personally I believe Erap's lawyers may have strong reasons to believe that the court will convict their client so to save him from further embarrassment and to add more intrigue to the verdict they move to dispense the reading of the verdict in its entirety (it could be educational had they read it everything).

Being one of the college students who marched during the EDSA 2 I have this mixed feeling that ERAP was found guilty by Sandigan I felt betrayed and I pity the man.

poor erap! parang natural na adobo, linuluto sa sariling mantika. at sino ang cook o crook, baka naalala niya si villar, si guingona at si loren. sila ang naghain at nagtimpla para masarap ang lechon de leche. saan na sila? ayun, gusto pang gawin barbeque ung adobo.

happy fiesta to the presidentiable cooks!

people, this is the erap case. the fertilizer scam, the broadband deal, etc will be heard in due time....

as what have been posted above, read the 1000+-page decision and then react!

The political Sandiganbayan

09/13/2007
The crime of plunder, as explained by Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago, has to do with the the malversation of public funds, or raids on the public treasury.
One must then ask: Where was the plunder then that the Sandiganbayan Special Division justices claimed Erap Estrada committed when they declared him guilty of plunder in two instances, namely, the commissions from the BW shares of stocks and the jueteng payoffs while acquitting him of two other plunder charges, namely, the P130-million tobacco excise tax diversion and the Jose Velarde account, since neither the BW commissions nor the jueteng payoffs came from public funds?
Plunder then should have referred to the P130-million tobacco tax funds diversion, but Erap was acquitted of this crime and in the case of the commission from the BW shares sale, this, too, can’t be considered public funds. So where was the plunder and what public funds were malversed by Estrada?
Evidently, in the case of the P130-million tobacco tax diversion, the justices couldn’t quite justify it, since they were present in an ocular inspection of the alleged delivery of the money in four boxes, as per the testimony of the demonstrably corrupt governor, Chavit Singson. There was also the fact that the justices were present in a Central Bank test of P130 million fitting into the four boxes whose dimensions were provided by Singson.
Neither could the justices convict Estrada on the charge of his being Jose Velarde and amassing over P4 billion in the account, as the defense produced that which the prosecution alleged but refused to present as evidence: the contents of the second envelope, which contained official bank documents that proved the account was owned and operated not by Estrada but by Jaime Dichaves.
As for the elite civil society’s “credible” star witness, Clarissa Ocampo, well, it certainly appears that which she claimed had no value, since the witnesses of Erap, two vice presidents of the bank, proved that it was not Erap but Dichaves who owned the account, and proved, too, that the paper which Ocampo made Erap for Jose Velarde was worthless, since this document was not honored by the bank.
Evidently, Ocampo and the Makati businessmen laid this trap for Estrada, as part of their plot to oust him.
Since the court acquitted Erap on the tobacco excise tax, this translates to the fact that the testimony of Chavit Singson was clearly perjured. Yet it was also on his affidavit on the jueteng payoffs that the court convicted Estrada. As for Emma Lim’s testimony on handing over the jueteng payoffs to Estrada in Malacañang, there were more than enough witnesses that testified to the verifiable fact that Estrada was nowhere in Malacañang at the time Lim said he was, since he was attending an official function that Chavit Singson’s sister was overseeing. They were obviously lying, and yet the justices took their word for it, despite the fact that the prosecution’s failure to produce a single jueteng lord to testify that he had handed over jueteng protection money to Erap.
A fair and impartial verdict from the Sandiganbayan justices? Far from it. What it looks like is certainly nothing impartial, independent or just about the verdict. It was clearly a court that was out to convict Estrada — just as Gloria Arroyo, Fidel Ramos and Chavit Singson wanted it, because there was no rhyme or reason to convict Estrada, given the strong defense he and his team put up in the plunder case.
That directions came from Malacañang — on both the verdict and the detention site of Estrada — is evident in the fact that even before the verdict was handed down by the court, Malacañang had already stated that it wanted Estrada to be detained in his Tanay estate. This the court parroted, on grounds that Estrada is a former president.
Hello. Some years back, the Sandiganbayan justices rejected the proposal for Estrada to be under house arrest, saying there is no such law allowing house arrests and even said he should be not be given special treatment.
Now, even as Estrada, through his lawyer, said he does not want any special treatment and that he would go to the place where the justices say he should stay, even if it is Muntinlupa, the court suddenly says he should stay in his Tanay estate.
There is no doubt that the Estrada plunder case was not judged on its merits, but on political accommodations — to the high court and Gloria.
Estrada has been convicted only because Gloria sits illegally in Malacañang.
What an injustice dealt to Estrada. They robbed him of his presidency, framed him with trumped-up charges, then jailed and convicted him.
There can’t be any justice in this.

it is really frustrating not to hear the verdict in full. Lawyers of the defense in particular didn't think the rights of the people to know the details and the basis of the decision. They should've considered this in the first place bec this case is against Government vs Estrada, and government is people itself. The outcome of the verdict the way they laid down the decision in the public might not be that clear in the perception of many. Poor people, particularly Erap loyalist, might jump into conclusion that the SC's decision might be unfair to their understanding. I'm sure they're very emotional of the verdict. I pity them. So please Erap's Lawyers, wake -up, accept the defeit, move on and don't ever make another mistake again that would give false hopes to Erap loyalist and to the defendant in particular. I know that this would be the huge mess part of your career. Don't politicize further the situation. Put a period right away. Just pray for your client's faith, please!

panahon na para magkaisa labanana ang mga ganid sa kapangyarihan.

Give it up to the Pinoys....everyone becomes an expert of the law.

I'm tired of idiots roaming the web asking questions such as "where's joc joc? nani perez? why are they not being tried? how about FVR? Cory? GMA?"

MORONS. If any of you retards have any proof, file a case and we'll see what happens. you're no different from the lawyers of estrada, you always work your mouths off more than your minds.

also, estrada's lawyers chose to have the dispositive portions read primarily BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP THE IGNORANT MASSES AS IS. if the Sandiganbayan will read everything then people will certainly be aware of how their IDOL systematically plundered the nation, which the die hard fanatics here refuse to admit.

Grow up. Tama na ang awa. Kaya hindi umaasenso ang Pilipinas dahil sa mga katulad nyong mga WHINERS. Magtrabaho kayo para makuha nyo ang gusto nyo.

@Lisa Decordoba

Obviously, you're one estrada fanatic. Otherwise, you would've thought that your idol's case is SEPARATE and DISTINCT from every other corruption/plunder case there is today.

It's like questioning why a rapist was sent to jail when there are so many rapists roaming freely. You get my drift? I hope so.

Like what I said, if you have a case that's as strong as your mouth then go ahead collate all your evidences and file an impeachment case. Of course, the whiners here will say GMA controls the House of Representatives. If that gray matter inside your heads still serve their purposes, you will remember that Estrada back then controlled the House of Representatives. Only the perseverance of the Spice boys, Joker and a few other congressmen made the difference. They did their assignments and gathered STRONG, UNDENIABLE facts that eventually turned the tide in favor of Estrada's impeachment in the lower house.

Sadly, the bloated lawyers of Estrada chose to argue his case in the bar of public opinion and media. Unfortunately, they're not the ones ultimately handing out the sentence but the Sandiganbayan.

Now, if you want Estrada acquitted or pardoned because of the years he spent in his AIRCONDITIONED REST HOUSE FULL OF BASKETS OF FRUITS, then think of whether you'll do the same to someone who raped your family member. I'm sure you won't say the same thing even though we know that there are rapists roaming around freely.

AM I RIGHT? So now, do you really think what you're asking for is FAIR? HA!

as they say, JUSTICE although harsh is always fair.

@tallman, obviously your height compensated well with whatever's left of your brain.

Tulad ng sabi ni F. Jigs Segre, hindi ito laban ng pro-Erap sa pro-GMA o nino man. Laban ito ng taong bayan sa mga mandarambong. Dapat tayong magalak at gumagana pa ang systema ng hustisya sa atin. Kung sakaling na-acquit si Estrada, malamang wala ng bansang seseryoso sa atin.

Ngayon, ang pagtuunan natin ng pansin ay ang paglikom ng mga ebidensyang makakatulong sa mga kason isasampa. Ebidensyang kinuha sa legal at tamang paraan at hindi gawa gawa lang.

Saludo ako sa iyo, F(ather ???) Jigs.

MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS, AKALAIN NINYO NASABIT SI ERAP, TALAGANG WEATHER, WEATHER LANG YAN. SANA YONG MGA IBA JAN, GANYAN DIN ANG PARUSA SA KANILA. MASKI HINDI SILA MABILANGGO BASTA MAPAHIYA SILA SA PUBLIKO. OK. NA SA AKIN. HINDI KAGAYA SA U.S.A, PAG NAGKASALA KA DIRETSO KA SA KULUNGAN. MADAM GLORIA, TIGNAN MO RIN YONG MGA TAUHAN MO AT MAGIINGAT KA RIN. SABAGAY MATALINO KA, AT NAN JAN DIN SI FIRST G. NA ISA RING MATALINO. GOD BLESS SA INYO. SANA MAGDESISYON KAYO NANG PAREHAS. SALAMAT PO.

-Jose Pidal at German Acct. ni Miguel Arroyo
-Fertilizer Scam ni Jocjoc
-Overpricing ng Diosdado Macapagal Hiway
-IMPSA deal
-Mga kinurakot ni Nani Perez
-Mga Kickback ni Chavit sa Jueteng at Tobacco Excise Stocks
-ZTE deal ng Malakanyang
-HELLO GARCI....asan na yan?...abangan na lang natin ang mga susunod na kabanata pag-umikot ang gulong ng palad...Sabi nga ng bibliya,mapapalad ang mga naaapi sapagkat sila'y kahahabagan...nakakadismaya nga lang,bakit walang magawa ang pamahalaan sa mga bagay na ito...kung sino ang nasa kapangyarihan,sila ang naghaharing-uri. They are not in their positions right now to serve the Filipinos,ginagamit lang nila ang kanilang kapangyarihan para sa kanilang kapakanan,that's why our nation will still be divided and it will never be one...hanggang may mga taong sakim at dupang sa kapangyarihan.

Pity the Pilipino people to have an illegitimate president that rule the law of the land. Conviction of ERAP was the best resort to legitimize an illegitimate president. Wake up Philippines for the previous administration that emptied the coffers of the government when ERAP became the President. We all believe in karma, let's wait for the worst to happen to GMA and her family.

Kaya tuloy hindi umaasenso ang Pilipinas eh puro kenkoy ang mga desisyon ng mga hurado. Okay sana kung maipapatupad nila ang dersisyon nila. Baka naman duon pa rin sa Rest house siya ikukulongeh hindi naman yata tama yon. Sa muntinglupa dapat sya kasama ang mga convict sa death row. Palagay ko hindi na nya magagawa ang ala Asyong Salonga nya duon. Dapat sa Muntinglupa sya makulong habang nagaantay ng desisyon sa korte suprema. Patay na siguro sya bago umabas ang hatol na abswelto sya. Tingnan natin ang susunod na kabanata.

rmb,

Papaano magkakaroon ng malinaw na pruweba kay Garci at Gloria kung binabara ang imbestigasyon ng mga magkaKAMPI sa Kongreso at ng mga kampon ng administrasyon.

Pero siguradong may malinaw na tape na inilabas mismo ni Bunye ng pinagusapan nilang dalawa... Hello Garci ... Pagisipan mo ng maige.

Mas untouchable ang Gambling Lords ikumpara kay Estrada. Kaya tuloy ang happy-happy ng mga Hari at Reyna ng Pasugal at yung nakaupo ngayon na napapartehan ng komisyon.

Sorry erap hindi ka nagiisip,don't worry Gloria is right behind you. Susunod na siya,there will be another Chavit Singson or hudas