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Guilty, but why did Erap’s lawyers file that motion?

09/12/07

Posted under Philippine politics, Rule of law

A pity: After the Supreme Court allowed live (albeit limited) coverage of the promulgation of the Sandiganbayan rulings on the Estrada plunder and perjury cases, Estrada’s lawyers moved to dispense with the reading of the decisions in their entirety. Only the dispositive portions were read.

Live coverage would have been, like the impeachment trial itself, a civic education. But it would also have laid the case, as seen by the three Sandiganbayan justices, for Estrada’s conviction.

By making that motion, Estrada’s lawyers served only to further politicize an already politicized legal process.





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liz decordoba

Bakit si Erap lang ang nakaranas ng ganito? sa dami ng taong malaki ang ebidensya s anumalya at kurakot, bakit hindi sila hinatulan. na jan s fidel ramos, mike arroyo, nani perez at marami pang iba… anong klaseng hustisya meron tayo? Araw mo ngayon Gloria, lasapin mo. Gahaman k rin s position. At marami ka rin anumalya tulad ng “hello garci” Malapit na rin ang araw ng pag subsob mo. Hindi ka makatao… hindi ka patas… kaya’t s press release ni bunye na “sad moment ang araw na to” mga plastic kayo jan s Malacañang… Makakarma din kayo sa ginawa nyo kay Erap… Kung may pagkakamali man cya, napagdusahan n nya un ng maraming taon. Buti nga cya sa kabila ng lahat tumutulong cya sa mahihirap. Eh kayo jan s malacañang, mga kaalyado ni Gloria, puro kurakot pero hindi man lang magawa tumulong sa taong bayan… mga kurakot at nuknukan kayo ng sinungaling administrasyong arroyo.



vercingetorix

e pano si chavit?…ano ring hatol sa kanya?…mas marami rin syang nakulimbat sa jueteng at tobacco excise stocks?..kawawa naman si erap,masyadong napulitika…samantalang yung iba jan..”BETRAYAL OF PUBLIC TRUST(Hello Garci)” and corruption nakaupo pa rin sa Malakanyang…kaawaawa na si Juan Dela Cruz…



viking

Has anyone else noticed that the justices forgot that the death penalty has been abolished? Review the reading by the clerk of the verdict and you will see what I’m referring to.



blimpi

i guess that is their whole point - to further politicize this circus, to keep it from dying a natural death.
maybe they thought the supreme court will not give in to the media’s request that they be allowed to do a live coverage. and so since the supreme court, but without the the mug shots of their clients, they just had to create something out of the situation to make sure they still have a way to agitate their taongbayan.
hay, i just hope these people move on. he’s guilty all, right, as we, the other taongbayan, know all along. let’s just move on and stop egging the adminitration for a fight. and stop testing our patience. this is getting so old, it’s anticlimactic already



agnes

the decision maybe right but in order for us to appreciate it we must put in jail all the polotician who commits plunder



ernief

Was it the motion of Estrada’s lawyers to read only the dispositives?

That could be a tactical benefit to the current administration, and an inadvertent blessing to us. A lengthy reading would have given opportunity to gather crowds, agitate people and set them up for an explosion! It could trigger another EDSA 3.



EJ Vergara

It’s a job well done…Though it serves as a lesson for the rest especially with the present president. But do you think only Erap???



Jim

They are hiding the details of the case obviously–a very good move on Erap’s defense lawyer if they have the intention to incite rebellion. The verdict was beyond reasonable doubt but the people would certainly have to rely on the information on the dispositives. Lack of info + high politics=volatile situation.



pokemo

as long as politicians will be in their power, they always evolve into crocodiles. let’s face the fact that we live in a sucked up country.



Pablo

chavit singson should also hang in the gallows, look at this man he even had the face of trying to be a senator, shame on him, he really stinks!



Thunder

ERAP has it…

GLORIA must GO to JAIL for DEATH PENALTY!!!

EXTRA JUDICIAL KILLINGS!!!
HELLO GARCI SCANDAL!!!
FERTILIZER SCAM!!!



george

Weather, weather lng yan. Walang kumpakumpare! Nung unang binanggit ni Erap ang salitang yan nung manumpa sya sa tungkulin sa harap ng taong bayan. Biglang nagulat siguro si Ginoong Chavit at na pa teka”? uhhhmm.. parang ako yun ha? Ngayon walong taon na ang lumipas at eto na.. Bumagsak sya sa kamay ng kumpare nya. “guilty, Kung naging Matalino lng sana si Erap at hindi sya naging Mayabang noong nakaupo p sya. Siguro hangang ngyon sya p rin ang nakaupo at di nya sasapitin ang ganitong sitwasyon. Idolo sya ng aking mga magulang. Pumanaw n sila, pumanaw n rin si Erap sa aking pakiramdam..



BIG POP

Where’s Jocjoc Bolante?

where’s Nani Perez?

If Erap is tried and court and jailed…
how about the 2 above mentioned?



kulit

Let this be a warning to all the big fish particularly those in the government who are corrupt. To the critics of the Arroyo administration, gather enough evidence and bring it to the courts. Don’t just talk and talk like Wowowee, act.



talldude

Bakit nyo ginaganyan si Erap, kung may sala sya pinagdusahan na niya!! tama si liz decordoba ang daming ma-impluwensiyang tao na nakakalusot sa batas mas masahol pa!!! nagagalit ako kung bakit ganyan ang hustisya natin.

May nangyaring malaking scam noong year 2000, kung natatandaan nyo yung ASB investment scam na kinurakot ng iisang tao lamang… si Luke Roxas!! nagnakaw ng mahigit sa P 10-bilyon!!! Nagsampa ng kaso ang mga biktima sa DOJ pero bimalewala ni NANI Perez!!! gago talaga yan. Siya ang dapat bitayin!!



clipmaster

ayaw lang nila(erap lawyers) malaman ng taong bayan kung ano ano evidensya ang meron para mahatulan ng guilty beyond reasonable doubt si erap……

who si next, sana marami pang sumunod na mahatulan………



janos

i find it so sad, that erap loyalist are too blind too look at the bigger picture. erap “IS” guilty. after 6 years of legal manipulation of his paid goons (his lawyers). he has finally recieved his long overdue conviction.

pero anong punishment doon??? HOUSE ARREST SA TANAY, RIZAL. wow! tindi nga ng sakripisyo ng idol nyo



rodel

guilty? d naman na prove ng prosecution beyond reasonable doubt na guilty si pres. erap…victim lang siya ng politics philippine style because they cant believe and accept that erap will be the president of this oligarch country…gma should be put in jail instead together with those corrupt and inutil allies justice gonzales, bunye, ermita, jdv, chavit, nograles,arroyos and etal-para fair sila dapat expedite din yung mga graft cases ni jocjoc, nani perez,abalos, arroyos…truth will come out not now but very soon and wrath will scourge the govt of fake pres. gma



docirene

cmon what more can the estrada family ask for? even jalosjos was imprisoned in bilibid. house arrest in tanay for 40 yrs (reclusion perpetua) means comfortable, cozy and still very much lavish. aba eh makipagpalit kaya yung iba sa kanya? imagine, a big resort like house with all the fancy trappings and amenities. me mga DH, cook, etc, me swimming ,me home theater system pa siguro where he can watch and enjoy all the dvds he wants. and then dalawin pa siya lahat ng mga kids and grandkids niya, not to mention his drinking buddies. aba, ano ba ito? sentensiya/parusa or long term vacation. pasalamat siya. in south korea, 2 presidents were sentenced to prison for graft and corruption. justice delayed is justice denied. pero ang malungkot dapat binasa yung marathon 1000pp decision para naunawaan natin how they arrived at those verdicts. detailed kumbaga. at maarte ang sagisag ha? Ano ba gusto niya, kesyo no special treatment for hs client. gusto niya drecho sa munti. halatang nainis yung 2 justices. mwestra pa nga ng mwestra yung kamay nung nasa extreme left. sabi tuloy nung lady justice, na sana it wilol end well what they started out well.



Monday Lessons

Thank goodness it’s over…for now.



mbl

dapat kasama ni erap si chavit, arroyo, at ang lahat ng politician..sino ba hindi nagnanakaw sa gobyerno? malaking kalokohan ang proseso ng justice dito..habang ang iba ay nagtitiis sa noodles, may mga taong kumakain lang sa malacanang at nagtatago sa likod ng malalaking container trucks..



Marian

I so hate GMA and her galamays. May you all die. Shame on u!



gina c.

erap’s lawyers motioned only for the dispositives to be read. that was truly intriguing. it made me think that perhaps there were details in the case that they didn’t want publicized that will allow people to completely say that the verdict was justified. with no other facts given, erap die-hards will continue to pledge their loyalty to him because of the continued illusion that he is not guilty.



hiram1104

ERAP IS GUILTY!. Finally the long arm of the law finally catches a Big crook and restore my faith in our justice system. But why the special privilege of staying in his Tanay resort? HE MUST BE IMMEDIATELY JAILED IN MUNTINGLUPA WHERE ORDINARY CONVICTS STAYED WHILE WAITING FOR THEIR FINAL CONVICTIONS. As Mayor Lim said ” THE LAW MUST APPLY TO ALL OR NONE AT ALL”



neiloid

here’s a fact about our country we can’t deny:
MONEY + POLITICAL POWER = UNTOUCHABLE



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F. Jigs Segre

The Filipino people should realize that no matter how it appears, the unexplained wealth of Estrada should be taken into the over all perspective. In the end, it is not our utter disgust with PGMA that should cloud our public opinion, I know how it sucks to be governed by morons and corrupt government official but for Heaven’s sake, let us not be swayed with the populist agenda and propaganda of Erap’s camp.

For some reason, we should use our brains that evidences were taken out of the bag and let us not once forget that we knew of these wealth to be there, it actually remains unexplained. Don’t you ever take your thoughts out of it.

I do not think it is a battle between PGMA and Erap but instead a victory for the people that at least, one of them, were finally taken into justice.

I have no single admiration or anything positive for the GMA administration but deep inside me, I do not want to just erase from my memory the blatant fraud, luxuries and kickbacks that existed during the Erap administration. It is a matter of punishing at least one of the evils, and hope to God that the others would be pushed to justice as well.

The day of reckoning shall come too, someday.



Bert

To all ye lovers of the elite, rejoice. For you have just witnessed the fall of a common man. A common man you hate for being merely a common man, an undergrad you think not at par with your idol you love so much because you think she is an expert on economy, a graduate of economics in the USofA. Go on, continue your rejoicing, love your idol, love your elitist kinds, love Malu Fernandez, love everythoing they do, say and represent. Stay in your pedestals, until you all fall. You think all of your kind are the smartest for reasons of your degrees, and your bulging pockets, the common man you always perceive as dumb, as if the amount of money in your pocket is always equal to the amount of brain in your head, degree synonymous to intelligence. Go on, kick the common man while he is down, for his being common is the only real reason why you hate him. You hate him for being elected by the people as your president, it touches your ego, and you hurt so much inside to see an ordinary man you perceive as not as smart as yourselves attaining success and sitting up there, trying his darn best to govern inspite of his handicap. You are so hurt, two years was too long for you to wait to see how an ordinary man govern. And yet, here you are, loving your idol, tongue in cheek, love all the defects, in all those long eight years, until 2010, maybe beyond, maybe forever.



rmb

MAYROON NAMAN KAYANG MALINAW NA PRUWEBA SA GARCI,IYAN ANG NAPAPALA
NATIN SA KAKAPANOOD NF TFC AT PINOY TV KABABASA NG MGA TABLOIDS.
KAWAWANG PILIPINAS…MAG ISIP ISIP NAMAN HINDI KUNG ANONG IDIKTA SA ATIN AY PANINIWALAAN KAAGAD.



sashimi

it seems your formula doesn’t really add up. erap has political power (his wife was a senator, his son is a senator, another son is mayor of a major city, and — if surveys are to be believed — he has the masses behind him). erap CERTAINLY has the money. but it turns out he’s NOT untouchable.



tasyo

Erap is convicted of jueteng kickbacks.
Bakit walang nakakulong o may kaso na gambling lord na pinangalingan ng pera.Sigurado naman na alam ni Singzon kung sino ang mga tao na yun dahil sya ang bagman ayon sa kanya.
Dapat maestablish din na may jueteng lord muna bago mo malaman na may lagayan.



Mel

Kung lumabas na “guilty” si ERAP, dapat ay makasuhan din si Singson kasi malinaw na talagang involved din siya sa graft and corruption dahil sa jueteng



Cesar

Oo nga dahil “Accessory to the crime” din si Chavit Singson.

Nasaan ang hustisya sa Pilipinas? Hindi pantay-pantay



kulas

kong c erap na una sumunod na sila …. malaki pa naman ang tanay resthouse … kawawang pilipinas ninakawan na nilapastangan pa. kaya magnanakaw ang tao dahil sila ang nagpapanakaw …….. grabe na toooooooo



dennis

I read somewhere that the verdict has 1000 pages in its entirety. Make your conclusion based on that.

Personally I believe Erap’s lawyers may have strong reasons to believe that the court will convict their client so to save him from further embarrassment and to add more intrigue to the verdict they move to dispense the reading of the verdict in its entirety (it could be educational had they read it everything).

Being one of the college students who marched during the EDSA 2 I have this mixed feeling that ERAP was found guilty by Sandigan I felt betrayed and I pity the man.



jungfu

poor erap! parang natural na adobo, linuluto sa sariling mantika. at sino ang cook o crook, baka naalala niya si villar, si guingona at si loren. sila ang naghain at nagtimpla para masarap ang lechon de leche. saan na sila? ayun, gusto pang gawin barbeque ung adobo.

happy fiesta to the presidentiable cooks!



rv

people, this is the erap case. the fertilizer scam, the broadband deal, etc will be heard in due time….

as what have been posted above, read the 1000+-page decision and then react!



pol-jeddah

The political Sandiganbayan

09/13/2007
The crime of plunder, as explained by Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago, has to do with the the malversation of public funds, or raids on the public treasury.
One must then ask: Where was the plunder then that the Sandiganbayan Special Division justices claimed Erap Estrada committed when they declared him guilty of plunder in two instances, namely, the commissions from the BW shares of stocks and the jueteng payoffs while acquitting him of two other plunder charges, namely, the P130-million tobacco excise tax diversion and the Jose Velarde account, since neither the BW commissions nor the jueteng payoffs came from public funds?
Plunder then should have referred to the P130-million tobacco tax funds diversion, but Erap was acquitted of this crime and in the case of the commission from the BW shares sale, this, too, can’t be considered public funds. So where was the plunder and what public funds were malversed by Estrada?
Evidently, in the case of the P130-million tobacco tax diversion, the justices couldn’t quite justify it, since they were present in an ocular inspection of the alleged delivery of the money in four boxes, as per the testimony of the demonstrably corrupt governor, Chavit Singson. There was also the fact that the justices were present in a Central Bank test of P130 million fitting into the four boxes whose dimensions were provided by Singson.
Neither could the justices convict Estrada on the charge of his being Jose Velarde and amassing over P4 billion in the account, as the defense produced that which the prosecution alleged but refused to present as evidence: the contents of the second envelope, which contained official bank documents that proved the account was owned and operated not by Estrada but by Jaime Dichaves.
As for the elite civil society’s “credible” star witness, Clarissa Ocampo, well, it certainly appears that which she claimed had no value, since the witnesses of Erap, two vice presidents of the bank, proved that it was not Erap but Dichaves who owned the account, and proved, too, that the paper which Ocampo made Erap for Jose Velarde was worthless, since this document was not honored by the bank.
Evidently, Ocampo and the Makati businessmen laid this trap for Estrada, as part of their plot to oust him.
Since the court acquitted Erap on the tobacco excise tax, this translates to the fact that the testimony of Chavit Singson was clearly perjured. Yet it was also on his affidavit on the jueteng payoffs that the court convicted Estrada. As for Emma Lim’s testimony on handing over the jueteng payoffs to Estrada in Malacañang, there were more than enough witnesses that testified to the verifiable fact that Estrada was nowhere in Malacañang at the time Lim said he was, since he was attending an official function that Chavit Singson’s sister was overseeing. They were obviously lying, and yet the justices took their word for it, despite the fact that the prosecution’s failure to produce a single jueteng lord to testify that he had handed over jueteng protection money to Erap.
A fair and impartial verdict from the Sandiganbayan justices? Far from it. What it looks like is certainly nothing impartial, independent or just about the verdict. It was clearly a court that was out to convict Estrada — just as Gloria Arroyo, Fidel Ramos and Chavit Singson wanted it, because there was no rhyme or reason to convict Estrada, given the strong defense he and his team put up in the plunder case.
That directions came from Malacañang — on both the verdict and the detention site of Estrada — is evident in the fact that even before the verdict was handed down by the court, Malacañang had already stated that it wanted Estrada to be detained in his Tanay estate. This the court parroted, on grounds that Estrada is a former president.
Hello. Some years back, the Sandiganbayan justices rejected the proposal for Estrada to be under house arrest, saying there is no such law allowing house arrests and even said he should be not be given special treatment.
Now, even as Estrada, through his lawyer, said he does not want any special treatment and that he would go to the place where the justices say he should stay, even if it is Muntinlupa, the court suddenly says he should stay in his Tanay estate.
There is no doubt that the Estrada plunder case was not judged on its merits, but on political accommodations — to the high court and Gloria.
Estrada has been convicted only because Gloria sits illegally in Malacañang.
What an injustice dealt to Estrada. They robbed him of his presidency, framed him with trumped-up charges, then jailed and convicted him.
There can’t be any justice in this.



batang Dukha

it is really frustrating not to hear the verdict in full. Lawyers of the defense in particular didn’t think the rights of the people to know the details and the basis of the decision. They should’ve considered this in the first place bec this case is against Government vs Estrada, and government is people itself. The outcome of the verdict the way they laid down the decision in the public might not be that clear in the perception of many. Poor people, particularly Erap loyalist, might jump into conclusion that the SC’s decision might be unfair to their understanding. I’m sure they’re very emotional of the verdict. I pity them. So please Erap’s Lawyers, wake -up, accept the defeit, move on and don’t ever make another mistake again that would give false hopes to Erap loyalist and to the defendant in particular. I know that this would be the huge mess part of your career. Don’t politicize further the situation. Put a period right away. Just pray for your client’s faith, please!



juan cruz

panahon na para magkaisa labanana ang mga ganid sa kapangyarihan.



Peter

Give it up to the Pinoys….everyone becomes an expert of the law.



Jericho

I’m tired of idiots roaming the web asking questions such as “where’s joc joc? nani perez? why are they not being tried? how about FVR? Cory? GMA?”

MORONS. If any of you retards have any proof, file a case and we’ll see what happens. you’re no different from the lawyers of estrada, you always work your mouths off more than your minds.

also, estrada’s lawyers chose to have the dispositive portions read primarily BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP THE IGNORANT MASSES AS IS. if the Sandiganbayan will read everything then people will certainly be aware of how their IDOL systematically plundered the nation, which the die hard fanatics here refuse to admit.

Grow up. Tama na ang awa. Kaya hindi umaasenso ang Pilipinas dahil sa mga katulad nyong mga WHINERS. Magtrabaho kayo para makuha nyo ang gusto nyo.



Jericho

@Lisa Decordoba

Obviously, you’re one estrada fanatic. Otherwise, you would’ve thought that your idol’s case is SEPARATE and DISTINCT from every other corruption/plunder case there is today.

It’s like questioning why a rapist was sent to jail when there are so many rapists roaming freely. You get my drift? I hope so.

Like what I said, if you have a case that’s as strong as your mouth then go ahead collate all your evidences and file an impeachment case. Of course, the whiners here will say GMA controls the House of Representatives. If that gray matter inside your heads still serve their purposes, you will remember that Estrada back then controlled the House of Representatives. Only the perseverance of the Spice boys, Joker and a few other congressmen made the difference. They did their assignments and gathered STRONG, UNDENIABLE facts that eventually turned the tide in favor of Estrada’s impeachment in the lower house.

Sadly, the bloated lawyers of Estrada chose to argue his case in the bar of public opinion and media. Unfortunately, they’re not the ones ultimately handing out the sentence but the Sandiganbayan.

Now, if you want Estrada acquitted or pardoned because of the years he spent in his AIRCONDITIONED REST HOUSE FULL OF BASKETS OF FRUITS, then think of whether you’ll do the same to someone who raped your family member. I’m sure you won’t say the same thing even though we know that there are rapists roaming around freely.

AM I RIGHT? So now, do you really think what you’re asking for is FAIR? HA!

as they say, JUSTICE although harsh is always fair.



Jericho

@tallman, obviously your height compensated well with whatever’s left of your brain.

Tulad ng sabi ni F. Jigs Segre, hindi ito laban ng pro-Erap sa pro-GMA o nino man. Laban ito ng taong bayan sa mga mandarambong. Dapat tayong magalak at gumagana pa ang systema ng hustisya sa atin. Kung sakaling na-acquit si Estrada, malamang wala ng bansang seseryoso sa atin.

Ngayon, ang pagtuunan natin ng pansin ay ang paglikom ng mga ebidensyang makakatulong sa mga kason isasampa. Ebidensyang kinuha sa legal at tamang paraan at hindi gawa gawa lang.

Saludo ako sa iyo, F(ather ???) Jigs.



eddie

MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS, AKALAIN NINYO NASABIT SI ERAP, TALAGANG WEATHER, WEATHER LANG YAN. SANA YONG MGA IBA JAN, GANYAN DIN ANG PARUSA SA KANILA. MASKI HINDI SILA MABILANGGO BASTA MAPAHIYA SILA SA PUBLIKO. OK. NA SA AKIN. HINDI KAGAYA SA U.S.A, PAG NAGKASALA KA DIRETSO KA SA KULUNGAN. MADAM GLORIA, TIGNAN MO RIN YONG MGA TAUHAN MO AT MAGIINGAT KA RIN. SABAGAY MATALINO KA, AT NAN JAN DIN SI FIRST G. NA ISA RING MATALINO. GOD BLESS SA INYO. SANA MAGDESISYON KAYO NANG PAREHAS. SALAMAT PO.



vercingetorix

-Jose Pidal at German Acct. ni Miguel Arroyo
-Fertilizer Scam ni Jocjoc
-Overpricing ng Diosdado Macapagal Hiway
-IMPSA deal
-Mga kinurakot ni Nani Perez
-Mga Kickback ni Chavit sa Jueteng at Tobacco Excise Stocks
-ZTE deal ng Malakanyang
-HELLO GARCI….asan na yan?…abangan na lang natin ang mga susunod na kabanata pag-umikot ang gulong ng palad…Sabi nga ng bibliya,mapapalad ang mga naaapi sapagkat sila’y kahahabagan…nakakadismaya nga lang,bakit walang magawa ang pamahalaan sa mga bagay na ito…kung sino ang nasa kapangyarihan,sila ang naghaharing-uri. They are not in their positions right now to serve the Filipinos,ginagamit lang nila ang kanilang kapangyarihan para sa kanilang kapakanan,that’s why our nation will still be divided and it will never be one…hanggang may mga taong sakim at dupang sa kapangyarihan.



Nini

Pity the Pilipino people to have an illegitimate president that rule the law of the land. Conviction of ERAP was the best resort to legitimize an illegitimate president. Wake up Philippines for the previous administration that emptied the coffers of the government when ERAP became the President. We all believe in karma, let’s wait for the worst to happen to GMA and her family.



mandug

Kaya tuloy hindi umaasenso ang Pilipinas eh puro kenkoy ang mga desisyon ng mga hurado. Okay sana kung maipapatupad nila ang dersisyon nila. Baka naman duon pa rin sa Rest house siya ikukulongeh hindi naman yata tama yon. Sa muntinglupa dapat sya kasama ang mga convict sa death row. Palagay ko hindi na nya magagawa ang ala Asyong Salonga nya duon. Dapat sa Muntinglupa sya makulong habang nagaantay ng desisyon sa korte suprema. Patay na siguro sya bago umabas ang hatol na abswelto sya. Tingnan natin ang susunod na kabanata.



Kabayan

rmb,

Papaano magkakaroon ng malinaw na pruweba kay Garci at Gloria kung binabara ang imbestigasyon ng mga magkaKAMPI sa Kongreso at ng mga kampon ng administrasyon.

Pero siguradong may malinaw na tape na inilabas mismo ni Bunye ng pinagusapan nilang dalawa… Hello Garci … Pagisipan mo ng maige.



Kabayan

Mas untouchable ang Gambling Lords ikumpara kay Estrada. Kaya tuloy ang happy-happy ng mga Hari at Reyna ng Pasugal at yung nakaupo ngayon na napapartehan ng komisyon.



Eli Enriquez Washington dc

Sorry erap hindi ka nagiisip,don’t worry Gloria is right behind you. Susunod na siya,there will be another Chavit Singson or hudas



fer

Wish/Pray that the Philippines finally gets rid of all thieves esp in government no matter who they are - actors/actresses, old/new political dynasties, old/new business oligarchs, gambling/drug lords, ex-military/police officials, former government officials, communists, ALL who have looted the government or who have used their power to conive/conspire to steal, kill and destroy everybody/anything that hinders their path to evil. Wish/pray that all the above and their accomplices don’t get the chance to hide through being elected members of congress/senate or run/hide/stock their loot abroad. Wish/pray that the people finally realize/wake up to the truth and have a sense of justice/fairness for all.
GOD HAVE MERCY ON THE PHILIPPINES !!!



exie

Same reaction here, John. I too was surprised the verdict was out so quickly. And because only the dispositive portion was read, the impression created (which Erap’s counsel seems to have wanted to create) was a verdict without an explanation. They know Erap’s adoring masses won’t be poring over the broadsheets for the full text of the decision or downloading it from the Web.

Clever.



Dulpak

Mga kapwa kong Pinoy makinig kayo. Eto ang opinyon ni Dulpak. Unang una hindi ako tagapagtanggol ni GMA so let’s get that straight.

Alam ninyo mga kababayan, halos lahat ng mga pulitiko sa atin ay mandurugas, kurakot, sinungaling, etc., etc. Nataon lang na etong si Erap ay naconvict. Milyon-milyon ang kinurakot nya at ganun din yung mga kasabwat. Susmaryosep!! Can you imagine the amount of money he stole? I can’t even comprehend such amount of money. Milyon-milyong nga kababayan natin ang nagdaranas ng hapdi sa bituka dahil ginugutom araw-araw, namamatay dahil walang ibili ng gamot, hindi makapag-aral dahil sa kahirapan, nangingibangbansa dahil wala na silang pag-asang makaahon sa Pinas, etc.

Pero ang ating mga magigiting na pulitikos ay nagpapakalunod sa limpak-limpak na salapi ng bayan. Tignan ninyo mga palasyos nila sa Pinas at sa ibang bansa. Mga magagarang sasakyan na minamaneho at kung ilang di na mabilang na mga keridas. Kahit ang pangit at damatan na si Ginoong Pulitiko, super gaganda parin mga chiks dahil sa perang binibigay sa mga ito.

Sa panahon ng pulitika tignan ninyo mga ginagastos ng mga pulitikos. Gumagastos ba sila dahil sa pagmamagandang loob? No way! They are spending money because it’s not their money and they know for sure that they will get their money back plus more after they get elected sa pamamagitan ng pangungurakot. ROI or return of investment ika nga. Kaya sa katunayan eh ang pulitika sa Pinas ang pinakamalaking negosyo ngayon. Politics is business plain and simple.

So ano ang binubungakngak ko?

Alam ninyo mga kababayan dapat ay huwag tayong malungkot sa pagkahatol kay Erap. Magpakasaya tayo at tutukan natin ang iba pang mga pulitikos na susunod sa kanya. Kaya GMA and company may araw din kayo. Lintik lang ang walang ganti! Sa wikang Inglis, “every dog has its day” ang sabi.

Balik tayo kay Erap. Naku eh wala daw siyang kasalanan? Yan ang sabi ni Erap. That’s a bunch of horse shit! Ang sabihin mo, natigok ako! Sino ma’ng naniniwala na walang kasalan si Erap ay super tanga. Ang sabihin mo, kurakot silang lahat at dapat mabulok sila sa bilangguan.

Pero kung ako tatanungin, eto ang huling sasabihin ko. Kung hindi magising at magpakatino ang mga Pinoy at maniniwala pa rin sa mga sinungaling na pulitikos eh … okey lang. Uulitin ko. Kung ang Pinoy ay hindi magpakatino at maniniwala parin sa mga mandurugas na pulitikos OKEY LANG sa akin. Alam ba ninyo kung bakit?

Kasi malapit na ako magretiro at babalik ako sa Pinas. Nasa abroad ako ngayon. Pag puro kalokohan ang gobierno natin eh siguradong mas lalaki ang palitan sa dolyar. Hehehe!! Magiging mayaman ako pagretiro ko.

Sige lang kayo mga tanga!!!



ireneo jr

heard from atty. mendoza, the lead counsel of erap, this morning over a tv program that if erap is convicted because of jueteng money then let all people who are receiving money from jueteng be jailed also.
erap, as the president of the republic, was supposed to prevent or stop any illegal activities which he knew was going on but instead received payolas in order that the people operating the illegal number games will be well protected. good for him to be convicted.



kampupot

This is a good start to clean the house of politics and governance in our Country. We should move forward and take the initiative of cleansing the Senator, Congressman, Governors, Mayors down to lowest member of LGU. Also, its time to move and clean the Government Offices that provides basic services to the people and the economy. Place more teeth on the Sandigan Bayan and esure transparancy. I think this should be the next clamor that we should have rather than critisizing the verdict. Let Erap Lawyer handle those appeal. But as a citizen, we should push for investigation and prosecution of corrupt public officials, including senators and congressman.



hammieko

Kayong maka erap wag n nyo’ng pagtakpan ang idol nyo totoo na man talagang nagkasal cya. Hindi ko kinakampihan ang administration o opposition. Dapat lahat tayo walang kakampihan, dapat lahat tayo maging vigilant sa lahat na kawani sa goberno. Halos lahat naman cla magnanakaw. Magkaisa tayo magbantay sa ikakaunlad natin. Huwag tayo kumampi sa isang grupo o partido kumampi tayo sa pankalahatan na ikakabuti sa ating lahat.



hammieko

From now on you watch those people who were so close to erap and even those who are not but tried to be, THEY WILL VANISHED IN THIN AIR, wala na clang mapapala sa dating presidente. Nawalan na ng POWER at hindi pwuedeng makabalaik pa sa ano mang katungkulan. Ang ganitong mga tao ay mga taong tinatawag na sipsip. I want you to watch and have a count every now & then, for sure this will absolutely decreased. Alangan naman maging president pa c jinggoy.



asibok

ERAP CONVICTION ALL STARTED WITH HUETENG,BUT UNTILL NOW JUETENG IS STILL RAMPANT IN THE PHILIPPINES.ANDAMI PARING BWAYANG NAKIKINABANG.



ewan

i pity ERAP, because there are much more bigger fish to fry than him, in fact he was only used by other people around him, he is just serving the country for the people! what happened to the HELLO GARCI! scandal?! madam PRESIDENT! i guess you should also submit yourself to the court in order for your image to be cleared and at least give justice to what really the court must give to the country - but JUSTICE! dare? madam President..



Unbiased

Nakakalimot na rin kayo sa pinakakurakot sa lahat!
The MARCOS ILL-GOTTEN WEALTH!!!

Nakalimutan nyo na ba ang nagbasak sa bansa sa umpisa pa lang kaya tao ganito? Nabawi man ang pera, pero asan na? Alam nyo bang may billiones pa rin sila at nagpakasasa sa buhay habang kayo nagbabanat ng buto at tinataxan?

So ano na?



Unbiased

Kay ERAP naawa pa kayo… Ninakawan na nga kayo, niloko, ginamit pang dahilan ang mga Muslim at ngayon, naawa pa rin kayo…

Dapat umpisa na ito, habulin ang mga kurakot!

Unahin nyo na yung Marcoses dahil habang patagal ng patagal, nagkukunwaring inosente ang mga hinayupak na yan. Sinong sinasabi mong Poor?



paks

people of pampanga,what are you doing about the 1 billion a year missing collection during these lapid’s term?



paks

when they go 6 feet under,pareparehas na lang tayo niyan.



paks

I HOPE GMA IS HAVING A GOOD SLEEP AT NIGHT NOW.



The Boss

Kung napatunayang nagnakaw at nahuli, Guilty, walang masama riyan.Ang problema lang yung administrasyong sinundan ni Erap, kurakot din, hindi na nahabolo ni Erap dahil sinibak na siya ng mastermind na si Ramos.Ang mangyari sana yung susunod na administrasyon kay GMA, ikulong lahat ang mga magnanakaw magmula kay Imelda Marcos, Ramos, Perez, GMA, Bolante, Garci, Pidal, at iba pa. Para bang maguumpisa tayo sa simula…



Rolly D. Siatela

Actually, it was a deliberate and calculated act of political propaganda on the part of the defense to deprive the prosecution the basis for the decision, in case Erap was convicted, and thus make it appear to the less-knowledgeable and gullible supporters of Erap that their idol was convicted without rhyme or reason.



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MC_90

SUSMARYOSEP!!!!! naawa kayo kay erap???? anong utak meron kayo??? gumagana ba yan??? anong mata meron kayo??????

Si erap hindi lang kurakot…at hindi lang nagpoprotect ng gambling lords…sya pa mismo ang gambling lord…at ang mga anak nya ang mga gambling princes…

dapat lagn sya makulong..wala ng gainawa yang pamilya estrada kundi ang manggulo sa bansa..at bayaran ang mga mahihirap para makisali sa rally kuno nila…

ang lulupit nyo..naawa kayo sa taong hindi dapat kaawaan!!!!



X-vision, maryland

Take it easy erap,GMA days is numbered na din. Bunoin mo na yan nagpasasa ka naman. The lady president is nagpapasasa din,hindi pa lang natitimbog. Pag bisto behind bar din siguro,weather weather lang yan. Unfair to Erap din puro kerida niya ang issue,ang accusser naman kaya walang kerido. Words from Chavit,MJ and Atong feel sorry and sad daw sila sa verdict,what a morons



X-vision, maryland

GMA,Asikasuhin mo naman ang College Assurance Plan (CAP) case. Mas maraming matutuwa sa iyo. Alam ng lahat na may financial interest ang family ninyo dian,pag may naconvict ka dian ikaw na ang greatest prexy,problema lang baka maconvict mo ang sarili mo. Mang asar na lang tayo kesa mag peoples power baka mas ulol pa ang maipalit natin.



linda

Guilty verdict much awaited by some, that includes me. What Marcos corrupted for 20 years, ESTRADA did for less than 2 years.

Why Erap lawyers filed motion of consideration.

1.Consider the lawyers amount of fees it will incur Erap.To justify it is a job well done, they have to defend him with their utmost best in return for the humongous amount. 2. The lawyers moved to stop with the reading and controlled portions were only read… so the people will be deprived of knowing how extensive the case was… all we have to know then is the word plunder and its definition.3. And what about his dignity his lawyers have to protect and so he can continually say he is innocent. These are only my opinion.



Bert

To: jericho

I admire your guts in saying those things you said in your blogs here. You hate so much one rapist who raped your family. But, Sir, you are hiding behind the skirt of, and defending, another rapist who also raped your family. I’m speaking in hyperbole as you were, so please don’t take this literally. You are so daring with challenges regarding the sins of your bosses. Don’t be in a hurry, justice for them will come soon enough.



linda

MC_90

SAY THAT AGAIN



OFW in Afghanistan

Erap is guilty, fine! What next? I think the only reason why most people do not appreciate the verdict on Erap is because there are a lot of other crimes and plunderous acts that people supported by the current administration have done and they are able to get away with it. Where is sincerity in carrying out justice in this? This is what people are looking for. A slap on the wrist for General Garcia, deadma lang for Garci, Jocjoc Bolante is gone in faraway land, Nannie Perez, wala lang. Where is justice? …in Gloria’s hands, I suppose.

There is something very wrong with this kind of justice!



Wadab

Why did Erap’s lawyers filed that motion?

I think it was wise move on their part. Considering it was a live coverage at siguro the whole Pinas was listening or viewing it, can you imagine the clerk of court reading/reciting the discussions, arguments, and the “facts” that lead the justices to their decision. Baka wala ng maniniwalang inosente si Erap.



Tim

I have asked this question, and will ask it again and again until somebody knowledgeable answers it to this Filipino’s satisfaction:

Isn’t plunder or crimes of this sort, punishable by death under the current constitution ?

Why is it that Estrada has not been sentenced to death ?

That will be a real milestone, and a real food for thought for other corrupt politicians.

To see a former president tried, be found guilty, and then executed in accordance with law.

Now, if I am wrong, will somebody please correct me and explain why this ex-president will only spend the remaining years of his life in jail ..IF the politicians of all colors don’t close ranks and have him pardoned.

if that happens, belat kay Juan de la Cruz.



John N.

Tim, the reason is the death penalty was repealed early last year. Thus, the severest penalty now available is reclusion perpetua.



Tim

John N.

I thank you so much for your clarification. I did not know that, although I have heard they were going to do that.
They really do take care of their own.
I personally think the reason they repealed the death penalty is not out of compassion for human beings.
They are too much of hypocrites to have compassion on anyone but themselves.
The reason they repealed the death penalty is because they knew Joseph Estrada will eventually be found guilty, and if he gets sentenced to death and they commute it to life, they obviously have taken the side of the elite, whereas if the sentence is life then pardon would be the next step.
And so if the same thing happens to any of them, nobody dies, nobody spends his life in jail.
It’s the old “I scratch your back, you scratch mine”.
I also think the most time Erap will do will be three years. IF at all.

Again, thank you for your explanation.



Fight!

Eksperto ang mga huwes na naghatol kay Erap, alam nila ang kailangang gawin. kung ang kanila mang hatol ay guilty, kailangan na lamang natin ito tanggapin. tanggapin sa pananaw na tayo ay nagkasala sa ating bayan. Kahit sya man ang naging dati nating presidente, walang eksepsyon ang batas at dahil sya nga ay nahatulan na guilty, kailangan nya itong harapin at panagutan. Isipan natin, kahit naman nakakulong sya ng 6 1/2 taon, itanong natin sa ating sarili, saan ba sya nakakulong? Di ba’t sa maayos namang lugar? ni ang iba nga nating mga kababayan ay di makatira sa lugar na katulad ng kanya, nakakalabas-labas rin naman siya, nadadaluhan ang mga importanteng salu-salo sa kanyang pamilya. kahit na sya’y nakakulong man ngayon, mas maayos pa ang kanyang tirahan sa mga dukhangni wala namang kasalan. ano pa ba ang gusto nya? ‘di naman sya pinababayaan ng ating mga gobyerno, di ba? marami pang taga bantay sa kanya. Di naman sya nakikipagsiksikan katulad ng iba nating mga preso dahil nga sya’y ating dating presidente, kung gayon, ano pa ba? Kaya naman tumagal ang litisan ay may mga di pa ring makataong pulitiko. Kung ganun, ibig sabihin wala kaming kasalanan at napatagal ang kaso, kaya di dapat magreklamo sa matagal na paglilitis kay Pang. Erap. Papayag ba tayong mag paapi at magpauto sa mga taong magaling magbalat- kayo? hahayaan ba nating ang ating mga pinaghirapan na bayarang mga buwis ay mapunta lamang sa isang taong ni di naman karapat-dapat???????????



Fight!

Kayong mga kababayan ko, tayo ay magkaisa sa iisang hangarin, ang malinis ang ating pamahalaan. Tayo ay maging totoo sa ating sarili na napakarami na ng bahid sa ating bansa, kaya ang mga ito ay nararapat lamang na matanggal na. Huwag natin silang hahayaan na yurakin ang ating marilag na tahanan. Kaya tayo na, kumuha na ng mga panlinis diyn-dyan sa bahay nyo at, sa aking palagay, nararapat na rin na tayo ay gumamit na ng muriatic acid, para tanggal ang mga mikrobyo! Magkaisa tayong mga janitors!!!!! YAY!!! PAYT, Payt, PAYT!!!!!!!!! Para sa ikabubuti ng ating niririlag na bansa.



john

Precedent!!!

They exploit Erap’s popularity to become president so they can assume power by removing him with all means. This time they cannot use Erap’s conviction as the first highest official to be incarcerated or by death penalty (abolished) because they are all thieves and liars in the face of all Pilipino people.

If you are 30 years old now or younger, you maybe fortunate to see our country free from corruption.



patrick quilala

puro kabalnalan lang ang nga nagkwekwento sana yung may katuturaN



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aldrin

I wish that this case will end because many people are questioning why is he guilty,BLA BLA BLA and other people love ERAP too kaya other people who loves him will protect him



sikreta

unfair ang hatol kay erap!



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