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My Apologies….

The writer made a very good point here…points which I am guilty of..and for that I apologize to everyone that I made ¨below the belt¨ and uncivilized kind of comments.

We all want the same thing..and that is to see our country change for the better…and hope that it will happen someday if not soon.

once again…my apologies to all

Isa sa comment ko ay na-delete mo nga at ngayon may panunuya mo pa na sinabing: “What, aside from venting their frustrations and their inability to argue in public, were the following commenters thinking when they wroten…” Nag-reply ako ng may anghang din kasi yung nag-comment sa akin bastos at sobrang nakakainsulto talaga pero di mo yata nahuli. Ikaw na din nagsabi baka may personality disorder ka pala. May tawag dyan… pero wag na baka i-delete mo na naman ito (UNGAS!).

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Fair enough, John. More insulting, and more offensive, is the very consistent blogger who always argues with his very rhetorical ‘ha-ha-ha-ha-ha’ side of any argument, although we understand the poor guy (or girl) might be having difficulty finding the right words to say what are in his mind regarding the subject at hand so resorted to ‘ha-ha-ha-ha’. Which puts you in a dilemma, John. You have rules that we bloggers have to follow, or you delete our blog. What now? Surely, you can’t delete a blogger’s comment just because he or she is the tickling kind, can you?

Thanks for the sanity, John. God knows we need more of it.

sometimes we can’t really avoid that to happen bec it’s part of our freedom to express what’s in our minds want to say… the natural human instinct. That means everybody who’s participating in this blog is aware of other’s comments, whether positive or negative to our own perceptions, so long as there’s somewhat sense to the topic, i think that would be, let’s say considered. So we must anticipate that some exchanging hitting words that will not be avoided will occur in every blog. Sometimes there’s an exception to the rule if we cannot upkeep to a par the emotions that this blog can bring to participants. We are just unique animals. That’s how GOD created us.

Apology accepted. CHEERS!

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Very reasonable John and Manuel … hats off to both of you, keep it up

A dose of good blog moderation a day keeps the flame-wars away

“Insulting the … Elders of Zion” … that comment really tickled me pink!

It happens, once in a while, when emotions are high that someone comes with less intelligent comments, and even resorting to harsh words. Part of it, is our inability to articulate our ideas and thoughts with the feelings and emotions that accompany them. I can understand some lapses of judgement in this regard…but not when a blogger comes up with a pattern…where for example he/she calls everyone else hunghang or bobo. But on second thought, why be affected of some one else’s weakness? Can’t we just appreciate that such weakness exists and all we have to do is respond to these blogs with a lot of respect and kindness? All of us still have a lot to learn from each other. Cheers!

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OFW

I do agree with some of the things you said..but not with the part where you said ¨It happens, once in a while, when emotions are high that someone comes with less intelligent comments, and even resorting to harsh words.¨ masyado ng pre-judgemental…wala din pinagiba to sa mga previous words and comments na sinasabi ni john sa taas…maybe you are intelligent…but not intelligent in everything..maybe you are good at what you do..and that others cant do wht you are doing…but I am sure as well that what others can do..you also dont have any idea how to do it..

I would say some people (like me hehehe) resort to using harsh words due to disappointments. When intelligent comments dont matter anymore (because the other party is close minded enough to listen and understand)…harsh words or bad words are usually the last resort..

I really find it disappointing when most of the filipino people dont see or refuses to see the facts.. that all our politicians ..opposition and amdinistration..are all corrupt and have not done enough to make the philippines a better country…

i wonder what it will take to make all of us see the truth?

In all areas…blogs, debates, drinking sessions, casual conversation, etc…I always hear people defending politicians like they know them from head to foot.

We should all be united..united against our politicians…we have to make them realize that we know what they are doing…and that we know that they are not doing their jobs..and that we know that they are all corrupt…in this way, they will start having second thoughts in fooling each and everyone of us…

However, this is what we call ¨suntok sa buwan¨, meaning…suntok sa buwan din ang paglago ng pilipinas at pagkaroon ng maayos na buhay ng mga mamayang pilipino.

I did not say I am intelligent, MC_90 and others are less intelligent. I also do come up with less intelligent comments once in a while. This is the reason why it is hard for me to judge others. I respect your truth, that is, you believe that all politicians are corrupt, but there are other truths. My truth, which is, not all politicians are corrupt, happens to be different from the truth you embrace. Can’t we just accept that in all societies such diversity exists and therefore should be respected? We do not necessarily have to agree with each other.

I agree with you that we should be united…united against politicians who do the wrong things…united to support politicians who do the right things…united against corruption…and yes, united to respect the diversity within our midst. Cheers!

Then I’ll stop reading your blog…
and Inquirer.net too…
There is a “Philstar”, you know.

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@hunghangdiggs,

There are other ways to bring out your side or point of view without habitual crude name-calling and labeling of fellow bloggers. But if this is your cup of tea then your leaving for other news media entities may be a good idea. The last thing Inquirer needs are people who induce unreasonable flame-wars. Good luck.

hunghangdigs,

if you think thats best for you…then by all means…do that hehehehehe

OFW

We filipinos are one hell of a human race…i have talked to a lot of nationalities (in my field at least)…and I could say that we are the only race who are so passionate about the things that we believe in…and we are willing to do what it takes to protect our belief and make a stand for it…and the other nationalities..they dont even come close to us….

however…the unfortunate part is…our politicians no longer share the same passion as the non-politicians do…because all they care is nothing but MONEY and POWER… (I also know this based on the huge number of politicians that i know and talked with….i have to admit, I used to be an avid supporter of this people..they are my friends…its just that..they are not doing what they are supposed to do)

To: hunghangdiggs

Read Manila Standard instead of the Star, say my regards to Malu, she’s one girl whose opinions are as acerbic as your name, if not more so, hehehehe.

To: MC_90

I’m a bit intrigue by your very persistent tirade against all bred of politicians. How about this: Supposing I’m as good as our John here in deleting the hunghangs in blogosphere, and so therefore I have the power also to delete all kinds of politicians in the whole landscape of Philippine politics and government, can you tell me what could be a possible scenario after I did that? Please, Kabayan and OFW in Afghanistan, can you guys help MC_90 enlighten me on such an important subject?

OFW,

If I may, I have to take exception to your statement : “……we are the only race who are so passionate about the things that we believe in…” Just curious, what things do we believe in that we are passionate about? If we can just translate passion for nation building into action, I believe we can achieve more, don’t you think.

To Bert:

The scenario would definitely be different if all politicians were deleted…we will have a chance to start from again…a chance to make a good start in our philippine politics. I wont have a problem with that..believe me, if I have the power to delete them all…I would have done that already….My basis is…Our politicians have been the root and cause of all our problems…filipinos work hard..majority pays taxes (very religiously)..and what have they done in return? Let me ask you…tell me something that a politician did that made a very huge impact that changed the filipinos lives for the better…maybe if you can tell me something I dont know about our politicians…it might change the way i think about them…

i think you are talking about chaos if politicians are deleted…but hey…how do you describe our current political system right now?

Wadab,

I totally agree with you…however, we are not the politicians..we are not the law and policy makers…and right now, this is all we can do..write down our ideas and our frustrations…and just hope that what we talk about in this blog will be taken into consideration by our piliticians…(although I doubt it very much).

Our politicians no longer have anthing to fight for except MONEY and POWER…this is a fact…

and we..the filipino people who voted this kind of politicians into power…will have to deal with all the consequences…

Yes, I agree fully, Wadab. The one you quoted is not my statement. Having read MC_90’s explanation above, I am beginning to understand where he is coming from. It is just that we cannot lose faith on all politicians…on the very people that represent us! They may not be perfect but we can help them. What if there is this one well meaning politician and would really want to make a difference and we just shut him off instead of encouraging him/her to do the right thing. Wouldn’t it be a shame to lose that opportunity because we did not support his/her ideas?

Me, I’m passionate about condemning liars, cheaters, corrupters, and grafters in governement, not to mention murderers, because I want the new generation next to me to see a more wholesome Philippines. Some have the passion for nation building but applaud and defend the scum and scammers in government.

To: MC_90 again

First thing first. Chaos never in my mind, when I thought about deleting all politicians, first thing that enter my mind was a Philippines resembling heaven, Eden if you will. On second thought I know it’s not going to be because there are still this small minority in this blogsite who idolize and defend scammers so will takeover the jobs of those deleted politicians and be the new scammers themselves, repeating the process all over again. Back to square one. And then me, Kabayan, OFW in Afghanistan, and the majority here will be ranting again, and you, MC_90….you will be having your tirade again against all politicians. Then I will continue to be intrigue by your……….

Bert,

Yeah..you are right..Philippines like heaven will never happen…however, the filipino people never thought of having a heaven like philippines…much more that we dont like a hell-like philippines…but right now…most of the politicians..if not all are doing the worst…the devil wont even accept them in hell..for the fear of them taking over his throne…

We all have one goal here..and that is to see our beloved country moving and changing for the better…but i dont really believe that any of the politicians we have right now (old and new) have the will and the intentions of initiating these changes…they all talk about it…all of them talks about change..

There is nothing wrong with supporting some politicians ideas or ideologies…however, the best part here is…all of them have pretty damn good ideas…and thats why I cant blame the filipinos who idolizes these politicians..because they believe in them…but, the sad part is, they dont really have the intention to implement their ideas…once they are in power..the primary priority for them is to think of ways to stay in power…and they need money to stay i power..so they steal the people’s money…

And then again…the filipino poeple (non-politicians)suffers…while they enjoy their stolen money..their security details…their VIP treatment…

so frustrating!!!!

inquirer…

nakakatawa… kelan ba naging moralista ang inquirer? hahahaha… mr. moderator… nagpapatawa ka ba? may GMRC na pala na subject ang INQUIRER… kesyo daw nakakapikon… kesyo nakakadegrade… kesyo below the belt… kesyo insulting… ano pa bang hindi insulting ang di nailathala sa peryodikong ito? wala bang “ignore button” ang tao? hahahahahaha…. “let the people decide… dont decide for them what you think is offensive… “iyong utak ng tao hayaaan natin hanapin ang natural equilibrium nito…” helllooooo? kung balahura man ang binablog nila… ay naku hayaan natin… matanda na sila… “ang pikon ay laging TALO… kung di nila ma teyk… di wag sila magbasa ng blog… “what is essential here…ma edeliver ng tao kung ano ang mensahe nais nilang epaabot… kesehodang nakakapikon pa iyon… at kung di talaga ma teyk ng inquirer… e di magdisclaimer sila… pag totoo… (mahurt talaga sila)… paghindi… ignore ignore ignore… who cares?

wag natin alisin ang anghang! doon kasi masarap… WA CHALLENGE KUNG PA TWEETUMS TAYO… MAGPAKATOTOO NA LANG TAYO…

I agree, Bert. I also have the same passion in condemning the liars and the cheats, murderers, etc.

I also have the same passion to support people who do the right things.

OFW, my apologies for misquoting you.
Is there still such an animal as an honest politician in the Philippines? For me,I agree with MC_90 there are still politicians out there that have honest and good ideas, but the sad part is, unless you have a good source of income like a business or gainfully employed as a professional, the salaries of politicians are just not enough to support the function of the office considering our culture of “dole-outs”. There too much money to be made from corruption. I heard somebody said that the number one employment in the Philippines is being a politician……akala ko pa naman being employed in the call centers ang number one.

There should be, Wadab! We just should not lose our faith in the inherent goodness of some people. I tell you, it is difficult because it is the system that really corrupts the person. I worked in a project in Bicol and there is this Mayor who started out really good. He shared with me his struggles, when he was elected Mayor, the municipality did not have money. For some reasons, the previous Mayor left it without money and lots of debts. He wants the Municipal council to pass a law to increase the tax people pay because the law that they follow have been more than a decade old. The municipal council would not want to do it because it is an unpopular decision to make and they might lose in the next election. For this new mayor, he is willing to take the risk. He did not have the backing of the more established political parties because he is not one of those traditional politicians. Bayan helped him with a few projects to start off. His other problem is the SOP (10% commission on infrastructure projects). He did not like it but all the people around him was telling him that that is the practice. He asked me where do you go? No one seemed ready to help him. Worse, he said, he incurred a million peso debt. He is on his second year and he is still paying for that debt. He is still trying his best to do the right things. I have not gotten in touch with him for 2 years now so I do not really know whether he has succumbed to the temptation. I can tell you another story: Jessie Robredo is one good example. He established a system of transparency for governance in Naga. You should visit him and see what he has done. It will inspire you, Wadab. The other is the former mayor of Irosin, I forgot his name.He is a doctor by profession, he stopped jueteng in Irosin during his term. He opened up the offer to Civil society and let civil society decide and he got the support that he needed during that time. I am sure there are more stories…inspiring ones.

Thanks for the inspring stories OFW. The question I posed regarding “honest politicians’ was just rhetorical. I have not lost faith in the fact there are still politicians out there who are still honest. Like you said, it’s the system that’s corrupting them, and I could not agree more. So I guess it boils down to the collective will of Filipino people to change the system.

The comment is worth considering as it has some ethical references. But on the other hand, the Media who suppose to be theone setting example to people about fair, just and ethical reporting are not doing their.The so called press freedom are being exploited by media for thier personal advatage. Listen to those AM radio commentators. They using words the incite angers and mostly below the belt then ,What would you expect from the listeners. They wil lbe carried out by the same worthless and empty statement that incite anger, frustration.
Before talk about sanitation in the media or for that matter in the BLOG, perhaps we the MEdia organization themselves should sanitise themselves. Marumi pa and Media sa mag politico. They create chaos by publishing unverified information, participate in the disinformation campaign and broadcast all the NEGATIVE THINGS HAPPENING in OUR COUNTRY even in overseas.
Guys , if you talk about cleanliness, PDI should start, and journalist should act reasonably and not besause of the PERA.
The value and reputation of PRESS People and so called JOURNALIST are worst than Dirty Politician because you have no way clean your ranks. YOu pint fingers to politicians which at least accoutable to Sandigan bayan and other agencies,But PRESS People, and journalist are NOT. They take cover from the concept PRESS FREEDOM eventhough it violates ethical ,moral and social standards. Why/ because of Money, Circulations and Ratings.