Antonio Trillanes, failed mutineer turned Senator of the Republic, has decided to play for all the marbles. After holing up in the Manila Peninsula with about 30 soldiers, he has asked the public to choose between him and the President.
I get the sense that this pseudo-mutiny or quasi-coup will not end peacefully.
January 6th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
let us not just blame our president or mr. trillanes regarding this chaos. We must blame our selves because as a filipino living here in our country, we all have a responsibility for us to have a better nation. If we want to have a peaceful nation, than let us forget all the painful events that happened here in our country,but instead, let us help one another to solve all the problems our country is encountering right now, let us be more responsible for the better of this nation!!
December 27th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
I would like to emphasize that I am a bias moderator, so another bias second moderator will be most welcome.
December 27th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Quotes above taken from the discussions between two wise men in this entry, one condemning a perceive corrupt and morally bankrupt administration, the other defending it. The topic of their discussions are the fine points of morality in our government and people.
December 27th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
‘I will agree that declining the money is probably the most prudent thing to do. It is probably what I’d do.’, said the wise man.
‘The truth is the best and most moral thing to do is to take the money,….’, said the same wise man.
‘People think they are being moral but in truth they are not. That’s why they are hypocrites.’, said the wise man again.
A very wise lesson in hypocrisy, indeed.
December 26th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
‘…most moral thing to do is to get the money, vote for someone else, report the vote-buyer….blah, blah…’.
MOTTO OF THE YEAR! Exactly what Gov. Panlilio of Pampanga did. Now the president is snubbing him because of that…and then all town mayors in his province are ganging up on him. Poor gov.
December 26th, 2007 at 4:52 am
“So you think the best and most moral way to handle it is to decline accepting the money? Tell me how does that stop that same vote buyer from offering the money to someone else more amenable? The fact is it doesn’t. The vote buyer is inconvenienced slightly but ultimately gets what he wants.”
Under the Omnibus Election Code, the vote buyer gets prosecuted and if found guilty jailed. Jail is not an inconvenience if crimes are properly prosecuted. The problem is the people who are supposed to enforce the law are the violators of it. The Comelec is supposed to be an independent constitutional body. It is supposed to be independent from the President. But since Marcos bastardized the entire electoral system which GMA and her cohorts learned from, the system has ceased to work. So the best think is to fix the system Constitutionally by amendment and clip the powers of the President by taking away her appointment powers of independent bodies especially investigatory ones. We lack the necessary laws because your congressmen would rather go on a junket with the President than enact laws. Here to curb the powers of the President, the democratic Congress passed the Counsel Reauthorization Act of 1994 whose office is responsible for prosecuting the President of the U.S. The independent counsel (last one was Judge Kenneth Star) is appointed by the Attorney General (Secretary of Justice in the Philippines). But because there GMA controlls the Secretary of Justice it will not work. Congress should pass a law creating an office of the independent counsel and insulating the Office of the Ombudsman (prosecutor of public officials). But the sad fact remains that Merceditas Guttierez, your present Ombudsman, is a close associate of Mike Arroyo. So, we are sure that she won’t lift a finger to prosecute Mike Arroyo and his cronies.
Doing an act which is moral does not require congratulations. A person who has a conscience will inform himself that what he has done is right in the eyes of the God, the law and the people. His congratulations is possessing a good character which is beyond reproach. (God will surely reward you in the end if you did and punish you if you did not).
Anyone who expects to be congratulated for doing what is right and requires payment needs to think more. You are doing what is moral not only for yourself but also for other people, your country, your children and their future. The public officials you place in power today will affect the national economy, our way of life and our children’s future. We are only in this world temporarily, we are not owners of this world. In whatever we do, we have to think beyond our times because decisions that we make now will affect future generations. Case in point is the environment. If we dump our garbage in our waters, the only ones we will be hurting is ourselves and our children. Another is population. If we do not encourge people to control their unabated procreation, there will come a time that there won’t be any resources left for everyone because its either destroyed by pollution or consumed by overpopulation. It doesn’t take a genius to understand this, however, it will require a little vision and consideration of other people.
“The truth is the best and most moral thing to do is to take the money, vote for someone else, report the vote buyer, then donate the money.”
In taking the money, you become a co conspirator in the crime. Because you have profited in the crime you are equally guilty of it. You won’t even qualify as a credible witness on the witness stand against the vote buyer because he can always claim that you asked him for the money to vote for his candidate. He has evidence to back that up because you are in possession of the money. Even if you donate the money, the law does not distinguish. “Ubi lex non distinguit, nec nos distinguere debemus,” (what the law does not distinguish we cannot distinguish). I understand where your coming from…ala Robin Hood. But if you rob a bank and give it to the poor, you’ll still get prosecuted and jailed because you violated the law. The law will not care about your motives. At most it will mitigate your sentence but it will not exempt you from being prosecuted and jailed. The politican-crooks will be in a better position than you becasue they won’t serve time even if they committed a graver crime than you did.
You have a penchant for branding people “hypocrites.” A hypocrite is a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion or a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. I have been accused of a lot of things but hypocrisy is not one of them. Especially coming from a person who doesn’t even know me personally. You are engaging in personal atacks on people you don’t even know. That’s reckless, irresponsible and hateful. It shows that you have a maturity level of a 12-year-old who cannot even engage in a civilized exchange of ideas without resorting to name-calling.
I don’t only believe in my religious and moral beliefs but I ACT ON THEM. A hypocrite is a person who says one thing and acts contrary to his beliefs.
“They are fed a bunch of lies and deluded by easy answers.”
It’s each person’s look out to determine if what he or she is fed is true. The only easy propaganda I have heard is from GMA’s government. People are being fed with false economic data, cover-ups and white washes of graft and corruption. Even the World Bank suspended lending to the government for certain projects becasue they know that the money is being stolen. Whatever economic data you put out there, and even if most Filipinos believe in it, the world knows otherwise. That is why we have become the laughing stock of the entire world. An example of this when GMA pulled out Philippine troops out of Iraq because one Filipino got kidnapped. That just shows she values her PR to pinoys more than her word or commitments to other countries. That does not only show she is weak but that she lacks character to honor her commitments.
“People think they are being moral but in truth they are not.”
You do not seem to know how to read. As I said and quoted from the Bible NO ONE IS GOOD. ALL HAVE SINNED. THEREFORE ALL ARE IMMORAL. But having a good government doesn’t even have to touch on morality. Even if you just require PROFESSIONALISM and ETHICS (which is not necessarily based on what is moral), the GMA government has failed and it has failed big time! A trully professional public servant does NOT steal or lie to the people. Example if you work for a stock brokerage firm and you start churning your client’s accounts without authorization you are being UNPROFESSIONAL and UNETHICAL.
“That’s why problems remain and don’t go away. Filipinos aren’t willing to face reality.”
The problems are present because people who steal money and work for themselves instead of the people on whose behalf they SWORE to work for are doing what they are not supposed to be doing. You can’t commit crimes and blame another person for your crime! You can’t blame a powerless Juan de La Cruz for Malacanang’s fault. That’s dumb. The solution is to indentify the criminals and take them out. Example, if you are a doctor and your patient has a brain tumor, you don’t cut off the leg and hope your patient will get better. You go after the source of the illness and take out the tumor through surgery.
December 25th, 2007 at 1:11 am
Tama lang ang pinaglalaban ni Trillanes, Faeldon at Lim. Nakakakita sila ng corruption kaya gusto nilang mabago ang pamamalakad. Ang tao kasi hindi magising lalu na at mahimbing na ang pagkakatulog sa konting nalalasap na kaligayahan. Marami ng pera ang Pilipinas. Gumising kayo mga kababayan. Ang buwis na nalilikom ng Gubyerno ay matagal na dapat na nakatulong sa milyon nating naghihirap. Tama ang ang huwag pagkuha na pork barrel as a demonstration of etiquette. Tama ang hangarin nila Lacson, Joker Arroyo, at Trillanes. Gising na mga kababayan maikli lang ang buhay natin sa mundo at marami sa mga kababayan natin ang nalubog na sa kahirapan at walang sapat na programa para mabago ang buhay nila. Gising Gising
December 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pm
[quote from Jossher]
Well first and foremost, if you are a law abiding citizen you would refuse it because giving (and receiving) of money for electioneering purposes violate the Omnibus Election Code. I don’t think following the law is hypocrytical. Anyone who thinks otherwise has a questionable sense of right and wrong and shouldn’t probably be allowed to vote in the first place (actually the Omnibus Election Code does disqualify election law violators from voting). I don’t think I even need to elaborate more on whether it is immoral or not. Of course engaging in vote buying is not only illegal it is immoral. Do we really need to discuss the morality of vote buying? I think your smart enough to know the answer to that one. Even your former Sen. Tito Soto said, “Kung sino man ang nagbenta nang kanyang boto ay wala nang karapatang humingi pa nang serbisyo mula sa ibinoto dahil nabayaran na ito.”
[end quote]
So you think the best and most moral way to handle it is to decline accepting the money? Tell me how does that stop that same vote buyer from offering the money to someone else more amenable? The fact is it doesn’t. The vote buyer is inconvenienced slightly but ultimately gets what he wants. I will agree that declining the money is probably the most prudent thing to do. It is probably what I’d do. But here’s the thing. I will not delude myself into thinking that that is the most moral thing to do. I will not congratulate myself for being a moral person. Because what I will know is that I settled for a pragmatic compromise. The truth is the best and most moral thing to do is to take the money, vote for someone else, report the vote buyer, then donate the money. That is the most moral answer. If everyone did that no one would engage in vote buying. But Filipinos are not taught to think like that. They are fed a bunch of lies and deluded by easy answers. People think they are being moral but in truth they are not. That’s why they are hypocrites. That’s why problems remain and don’t go away. Filipinos aren’t willing to face reality.
December 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 pm
juan dela cruz:
You are correct. Prayer works. That’s why I pray for the Philippines.
December 22nd, 2007 at 2:00 pm
abbygail (correct spelling: abigail)
“re cleaning up our ranks and not to wait… i don’t suppose you are suggesting toppling a govt?”
No, I am just making a point. The point being that waiting for PERFECT people to shout at government oppression will never come because people aren’t perfect. However, note the Cory government was initially a REVOLUTIONARY government. GMA attained power similarly through Edsa 2. So if there is a way to topple the government through similar but peaceful means which the Philippine Supreme Court has impliedly legitimized by way of legitimizing Cory Aquino’s and GMA’s government, I do not see anything wrong with it. Are you really sure that GMA won in the last elections? Not that I am a fan of FPJ, but from what the Garci scandal reveals there are a lot of evidence pointing to the allegation that she cheated. Governments come and go but the people and their dispair remains.
“it is easy to say that if you are not here in this country, living someplace else.
do not be an armchair leader, be where the action is…and bear the hardships too, like us.”
We’ll I have been there for 30 years. I’ve been at EDSA 1 (lying in front of tanks) and EDSA 2. I pay correct taxes, follow the law and SEND MY OFW dolllars there. I think that is more than what a lot of people do there. A lot of people are there physically present but mentally and conscienciously absent. Looking at TFC, the traffic and congestion in Metro Manila and highly urbanized areas means that the place is overpopulated. Does the physical presence of an overpopulated people help the country? I don’t think so. Armchair leader? How can I be an armchair leader if I am not a leader (yet).
I am a writer so I write. You think working from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. everyday earning dollars to send to the Philippines is easy? So you think life for the 11 Million OFWs all over the world is easy? OWFs get raped, assaulted and abused so that they can send money to their family. You should count yourself lucky you have not experienced that in a foreign land far away from your love ones. We OFWs are away because there are NO JOBS THERE. It doesn’t take a genius to know that. Or would you prefer that we stay in the Philippines and watch our families starve to death.
Why would I want to bear harsdship with people who do not even know that suffering and harship are not an end in themselves but a means to achieve something better? Sorry but I don’t think I’d want to suffer with people who think sacrificing democratic freedoms just to get along with the wrong and unjust status quo is ok. That’s what conquered people do. Are you agreeing that Filipinos like you are conquered and have no voice? Losers? No rights? No freedoms?
Life is hard being away from one’s family my dear. The bearing of hardship is only beneficial if it has a purpose or it means attaining a common goal such as seeing a plan come into fruition. (e.g. Christ dying for our sins to save us) Bearing hardship for harship’s sake is not sensible. “Misery loves company,” but don’t force people to suffer with you if those people have better things to do. That’s crab mentality. You want other people to suffer just because you are suffering too? What kind of thinking is that? If I see my fellow Pinoy doing well, I am happy for him or her. I wish him or her well. I won’t wish that he suffer too just because I am suffering. I won’t wish his or her kid’s starve just because my own children have nothing to eat. That’s un-Christian. That constitutes hate and hating other people is a sin which Jesus equates to murder. “Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life remaining in him.” 1 John 3:15 which in turn violates the 10 commandments “Thou shall not kill.”
I don’t mind dying for a good cause…dying for my country. Life is overrated anyway. But dying to serve people who are LORDING IT OVER (people who think what they are doing is right) so they can get rich at the expense of the populace is obtuse and inane. As the late Pugo (in a refrigerator commercial) said, “That’s a lotsa nonesense!”
December 21st, 2007 at 1:39 pm
Eueka:
“Why are you living and working there and not here?”
Well, firstly because I am an OFW. Is that bad? Without the yearly $12 Billion OFW remittances sent to the Philippines where would the Philippines be? You’d probably be stuck playing with penny oil mining stocks being “played” by unethical, albeit, big market players. if it was not for the remittances because there would probably not be much disposable income for businesses to go around. From the movement of commodity prices in the Philippines, it is clear that it is experiencing a major inflation. Without foreign remittances, you’d probably see the U.S. dollar-peso exchange rate go as high as P100. I doubt very much if most Filipinos could afford to pay for basic commodities in that scenario. In that case you’d probably have a real revolution. But the remittances are the sole reason why it is at a manageable P42 and is keeping the economy afloat.
Moreover, I have worked in the Philippines for several years in the public service. I do not like what I saw. Bribery, “padulas,” “palakasan,” “lagay,” and many other forms of corruption are as common as banana cue and fish ball in the market.
So, I refused to work with people (especially government officials who think corruption is a way of life) and moved. I don’t even think children will understand teaching them that stealing is bad but its ok for government officials to do it. I don’t think I would understand that either. In my case it was providential because a couple of days before I left, a preacher confirmed my decision was correct when he preached that for those people who are sick of living in corruption should think of migrating. That’s precisely what I did. But don’t worry, I will definitely be coming back. If God wills me to run for public office in my province, I will do so. But in HIS time, not mine. After all, in the end HIS will will be done not mine or anyone else’s.
Living in another country does not sever one’s Filipino citizenship or the fact that one loves his country. The fact that Rizal, Del Pilar and the Luna brothers were educated, lived and worked in Spain for long periods of time did not stop them from being Filipinos nor from caring about their country. In fact, studying and living in other countries opened their minds and made them realize that corruption and oppression are wrong.
“morally indignant and spout a lot of empty garbage.”
Well, the last time I read the Philippine Constitution speech and the press are still free.
“Why aren’t you here suffering with the rest of us?”
Because I am not a masochist. Only masochists want to suffer even if they don’t have to. Why would I want to suffer if I can help it? Why would I live in a corrupt society if I can live in one that does not tolerate it. But I care for the Philippines because it is the country of my birth and my family is still there. As you mentioned there is value in “widening one’s horizons.” I widened mine. That’s why I live and work in another country. Being a college-educated stock market investor, I find it hard to believe that you are “suffering” like most Filipinos. If there is anything that is “empty” it would probably be your experience of their “suffering.”
“Instead of exhorting us to topple this administration, why don’t you come here and participate in doing so in person?”
First of all I never advocated illegally toppling this government. As a person who believes in the law I do not advocate going outside the law. But I also do not believe stopping other people’s God given right to speak out against abuses. There are a lot of ways of replacing an administration legally. The people or any person for that matter can ask GMA to resign. She is not a President for life you know. That is a very legitimate request. There is nothing illegal about that even if some people incorrectly think otherwise. Even GMA was a product of a technically extra-constitutional exercise.
Here in the U.S., democracy is alive. You can bash President Bush in public or burn the American flag without being arrested by trigger happy and mal-educated police or military men. They are considered as “protected speech” by the U.S. Supreme Court. Because the Philippine Constitution was originally written in 1935 which at that time the Philipines was still a commonwealth of the U.S., the treatment of constitutional rights should exactly be the same. The Philippine Supreme Court follow U.S. Jurisprudence in explaining these rights. Ask Father Joaquin Bernas (former Constituonal Commissioner and Ateneo Law School Dean). So I do not think bashing GMA and her administration should even be discouraged. That is what democracy is all about.
“Moreover, anyone who does and would then proclaim their moral superiority over everyone
If you scroll up, note that I wrote no one is morally superior. Jesus said “No one is good - except God alone.” Luke 18.
“I’d think is a self-deluded chump.”
Name calling is a sign of immaturity, lack of breeding, and a poor substitute for valid points of argument. If I were the “chump” then why am I living in a first world democratic country governed by a fair government and why are you there in a third world “pseudo-democratic” country governed by a corrupt government?
“If a voter is offered money to vote for a particular candidate, what should he/she do? What is the most moral thing to do? What would you do? Give us answers that aren’t hypocritical.”
Well first and foremost, if you are a law abiding citizen you would refuse it because giving (and receiving) of money for electioneering purposes violate the Omnibus Election Code. I don’t think following the law is hypocrytical. Anyone who thinks otherwise has a questionable sense of right and wrong and shouldn’t probably be allowed to vote in the first place (actually the Omnibus Election Code does disqualify election law violators from voting). I don’t think I even need to elaborate more on whether it is immoral or not. Of course engaging in vote buying is not only illegal it is immoral. Do we really need to discuss the morality of vote buying? I think your smart enough to know the answer to that one. Even your former Sen. Tito Soto said, “Kung sino man ang nagbenta nang kanyang boto ay wala nang karapatang humingi pa nang serbisyo mula sa ibinoto dahil nabayaran na ito.”
December 20th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Let’s all pray to unite against corruption and abuses of authority, Merry Christmas to all.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Maligayang Pasko sa lahat!
Let’s all pray to unite our country!
Thank you at Mabuhay!
December 18th, 2007 at 12:53 am
i will not anymore write about the role of priests bec. it is controversial. it is enough to say the pope has admonished them to stay out of politics. but if some people would think otherwise, they are entitled to it.
re cleaning up our ranks and not to wait… i don’t suppose you are suggesting toppling a govt? it is easy to say that if you are not here in this country, living someplace else.
do not be an armchair leader, be where the action is…and bear the hardships too, like us.
December 17th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
I think in this blog there’s much said thrown on every fort, everyone has every right what he thinks in his heart. If only the voice of the smallest of this society, the poorest, is crying for justice in their lives, I may say if only each could make a prayer to change things in this ruined corrupt country, that justice will be serve right, and thinking of corrupt leaders whether they’ll be in the Judiciary, Executive and Congress (that is majority of the said Branches), the agony of this dying, hopeless race would be uplift. Especially on this Yuletide Season. People who read, critisize and doing the faults, find that we need to patronize patriotism, oneness and upliftment of our society.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Hoping people would be praying for the country. Thank you.
December 14th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Skeptic,
Far more unreliable than Pulse Asia …. none else but Gloria Arroyo and allies
December 14th, 2007 at 12:15 am
Pulse Asia or FALSE ASIA
- This survey is UNRELIABLE!
December 14th, 2007 at 12:11 am
To:Tell it like it is….
i pray wag sana mangyari ang earthquake sa malakanyang na tulad ng wish mo.
i pray na sana hindi rin mangyari sayo at sa amin.
sana sa susunod isipan mo muna ang hihilingin mo lalo na kung gusto mong makasakit ng ibang tao, ha.
ingat-ingat sa pag wiwish.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:31 am
Hi Bert,
For those used to getting corruption money amounting to hundreds of millions, P 500,000 is what they consider “petty bribery” or “pocket change”
Pulse Asia Survey for : MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT IN PHILIPPINE HISTORY (Survey covering 5 most recent presidents)
Gloria Arroyo - 45%
Ferdinand Marcos - 35%
Joseph Estrada - 16%
Fidel Ramos - 5 %
Cory Aquino - 1 %
None/Refused/Can’t Say - 2 %
http://www.inquirerbloggers.net/current/2007/12/11/the-battle-of-the-corrupt-marcos-vs-arroyo/#respond
and figures at:
http://www.inquirerbloggers.net/current/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/pulse-most-corrupt-2.JPG
For the corrupt, P 500,000 is small change indeed. For the hungry of this nation, this amount can save a lot of lives.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:54 am
Bert
ibig sabihin ni clipmaster, hindi naturuan si gma ng ermats at erpats nya na huwag mag-bribery, ‘di ba ganoon, ha clipmaster? hala ka magagalit sa’yo si Skepik. pero frends tayong dalwa, ha?
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Ha, Ha, Ha,. Bert. You’re kissing ass,. Just to get a share of half a million from Fake President of Cebu. Kong sa bagay, Its christmas time you can buy lots of christmas present with that money. Don’t forget my share ok.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:51 am
Bert
sabi mo clipmaster, ‘petty bribery…’, ibig mong sabihin petty cash lang iyong pinamigay sa palace na 500,000 bawa’t isa solon. sus, ganoon pala iyon, talagang improve na economy ng palace, sobra. kelangan talaga MOVE ON na tayo. tuwa ni Skepik, umpisa na sayaw cha-cha sa congress. tawag na mga kasama, Skepic, sama natin si salina para masaya. pag aprub ang cha-cha sa tao, ganito sigaw natin: READY, 1, 2, 3..GO….GMA FOREVER, JDV FOREVER, GMA FOREVER, JDV FOREVER, gma forever, jdv forever, gma forever, jdv forever, …zzzzzzzzzzz, snore.
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Hoy, Bert: Naman. Ang lakas ng snore no. Parang kang bakang ng meow…..Sige, Cha, Cha, Nalang tayo. Like they say, Fake President forever. Tama ang sinabi ni Salina!
December 12th, 2007 at 12:34 am
Jossher
I believe, however, that the current system can be fixed by going back to the 2-party system (through a Constitutional amendment) and maybe clipping the powers of the President. But it appears that no one trusts whoever will attempt to fix with the Constitution.
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another solution is to have a runoff election……
ang mga kandidato 2 times gagastos, mandadaya, etc……
kaso, baka doble kurakot din……..
December 12th, 2007 at 12:01 am
I am amused by the discussions between two of the most intelligent bloggers in this blog site. Both articulating the fine points of morality, one condemning a perceive corrupt administration, the other defending it. We could learn so much from the two of them.
December 11th, 2007 at 11:24 pm
balik tayo kay trillanes………..
nag apologize daw sa korte si trillanes sa ginawa nilang ‘walkout’……….
inay ko po. ang ineexpect kung sasabihin niya ay ‘i take full responsibility for what i did’……..
ano ba naman klaseng tao yan na gustong mag leader, kay hina…………
gusto rin pala niyan makubra yung ‘pork barrel’ niya………..
pwe………
December 11th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
Bert
pagkaalam ko yung survey is about petty bribery……….
kung baka eh pepetyuging suhulan, pang yosi lang ang involved…….
iba naman yung mga nanyayari sa ating gobyerno, aminin man o hindi, bigtime yon, “M” ang pinag uusapan…….
kung baga basic lang yung naipamumukat ng ibang magulang, pag kinareer ng bata, kaiilangan niyang mag masters……..
si erap lang yata ang walang masters kaya nasentensyahan……….
December 11th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
LAM NYO, WE TALK TO MUCH….
MAY NAGAWA BA TAYO PARA SA BAYAN NATIN?
NGAKARON BA KAYO NG PAGKAKATAON NA MAKIPAGTULUNGAN PARA SA IKAKAAYOS NG BAYAN NATIN?
BYSTANDER LANG TAYO SA MGA NANGYAYARI, KUNG SINO ANG MAY MALING GAWA, ANG DAMI NATING KOMENTARYO. PERO GUMAWA BA TAYO NG HAKBANG PARA BIGYAN NG HUSTISYA ANG MGA KAMALIANG NAGDUDULOT NG DI MAGANDA SA BAYAN NATIN?
TINGNAN NYO ANG MGA SARILI NYO, DITO LANG SA BLOG NA TO, ANG DAMI NYONG SINASABI SA ISAT-ISA, MAGTULUNGAN NA LANG KAYA TAYO.
SUHISTYON KO, SIGURO I-ASSESS NATIN ANG MGA SITWASYON, ANG MGA PANGYAYARI ANG MGA PROBLEMA NG BAYAN NATIN. ALIN BA ANG PABORABLE SA BAYAN NATIN AT ALIN BA ANG HINDI?
WAG TAYONG MATAKOT SA MGA MAY SALA, DAHIL GAGAWA AT GAGAWA SILA NG MGA HAKBANG PARA MAPROTEKTAHAN ANG KANILANG MG PERSONAL NA INTERES.
DI KO IISA-ISAHIN, ARAW-ARAW NABABALITA ANG MGA NANGYAYARI SA BANSA NATIN. SIGURO SIMULAN NATIN DON, MASYADO NG MALALA ANG KALAGAYAN NATIN.
MAGTULUNGAN TAYO MGA KABABAYAN!
December 11th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
saludo ako sa’yo
December 11th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
sabi mo clipmaster, ‘petty bribery…’, ibig mong sabihin petty cash lang iyong pinamigay sa palace na 500,000 bawa’t isa solon. sus, ganoon pala iyon, talagang improve na economy ng palace, sobra. kelangan talaga MOVE ON na tayo. tuwa ni Skepik, umpisa na sayaw cha-cha sa congress. tawag na mga kasama, Skepic, sama natin si salina para masaya. pag aprub ang cha-cha sa tao, ganito sigaw natin: READY, 1, 2, 3..GO….GMA FOREVER, JDV FOREVER, GMA FOREVER, JDV FOREVER, gma forever, jdv forever, gma forever, jdv forever, …zzzzzzzzzzz, snore.
December 11th, 2007 at 9:01 am
As predicted, Charter Change will be resurrected as it will be one of the ways to extend the term of the power hungry and the corrupt.
December 11th, 2007 at 12:14 am
ibig sabihin ni clipmaster, hindi naturuan si gma ng ermats at erpats nya na huwag mag-bribery, ‘di ba ganoon, ha clipmaster? hala ka magagalit sa’yo si Skepik. pero frends tayong dalwa, ha?
December 10th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
Philippine politics is something we want to pattern to the USA flatform in many ways sovereighty, justice etc., but one thing that nowadays we don’t copy is the formation of political parties.
Maybe because of our culture, what culture? (wanting to out smart each other), and the ways of out smarting:
1. Creation of turmoils, eg. fireworks, news gimmicks where it doesn’t care for the welfare of sacrificial lambs.
2. Displacement of other party thru trafficking strong contenders.
3. Lately vote creation, a tactic done especially in Mindanao areas where 15s, 16s, and 17s can vote, why? according to them they are already of legal frame of mind while in urbanized area of visaya and luzon is the double, triple times registration. No wonder why COMELEC and politicians don’t to computerized the system.
4. Creation of other part(ies) so as to create confusion among the people. Sample of these are the KKK, Rainbow Coalition, KAMPI, LAKAS, not to mention there are also locally created political parties for some provinces for all we know there are only two legal parties before 1. Liberal Party and 2. Nationalista Party.
5. To stay up in power, they’re try to change system from one to next, this way motives will not be realized and instead they say so that we can attain progress will be changing from these to these till such time they find a way they’ll stay there all their life.
6. Their favorite pass time, loaning big, big amount to other countries for bigger commission? And let the small people suffer.
7. Of course if what I commission is not enough I’ll find other sources :
a. GSIS and SSS
b. Custom Commission (giving businessmen cut to their taxes, while giving money for my campaign, he he he)
No wonder why, we are included in the list of corrupt countries, and as they say to clean up such mesh it takes a big big heart and thought. Good luck for our beloved country and as I reminded of the song “Edelweiss” . . . bless my homeland forever . . .
May people find honesty in their hearts for the sake of our ever dropping ways.
December 10th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Jossher, if there is a problem with morality in this country it isn’t the basic morality of people. Instead it is the completely twisted sense of morality people have. It is a distorted morality that is used to gloss over the real issues that sometimes require one to deal with less than ideal circumstances. It is this distorted morality that I see as the reason there is an utter lack of common sense applied to solving problems. Political discussion here resembles not so much an exercise requiring people to THINK as much as a way to get all morally indignant and spout a lot of empty garbage.
Question Jossher, should I deplore the fact that you are in a foreign land and not here in the Philippines? Why are you living and working there and not here? Why aren’t you here suffering with the rest of us? Instead of exhorting us to topple this administration, why don’t you come here and participate in doing so in person? Or why not join government yourself and work to make things better that way? Why not? Should I think of you as an immoral selfish person?
Fact is I don’t. Moreover, anyone who does and would then proclaim their moral superiority over everyone I’d think is a self-deluded chump. This country is better served by having people like you stay over there sending us hard currency.
Let me ask you to comment on a hypothetical scenario to illustrate the twisted morality that is propagated in this country. If a voter is offered money to vote for a particular candidate, what should he/she do? What is the most moral thing to do? What would you do? Give us answers that aren’t hypocritical.
December 10th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
abbygail.
Earthquakes is just one, other natural disasters to follow. It will steadily be of increasing frequency and intensity.
To add to the earthquakes and natural disasters, those who are actually involved or those who intentionally continue to be blind to the evils of this society especially those in position of abused power and illegally obtained wealth will feel a more urgent prodding of their conscience and if this fails, divine justice will finally catch up with them. Watch out for personal disasters, diseases and family misfortunes to those concerned.
December 10th, 2007 at 9:33 am
Kabayan
Earthquake in Abra, Ilocos region and Eastern Samar. Unusual heavy rains and humidity in December.
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All I want for christmas if for the earthquake in Malacanyang Palace. So that si Pandak ma shake down.
December 10th, 2007 at 8:29 am
Earthquake in Abra, Ilocos region and Eastern Samar. Unusual heavy rains and humidity in December.
December 9th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Bert:
Thanks for the vote of confidence. However, I am not good. No one is. Jesus said “No one is good - except God alone.” Luke 18.
I am not really espousing the parliamentary system. I just mentioned that it would be “better” (to save money) out of frustration from the current form of government which has ceased to work.
I believe that to understand the present, we need to look back at history. I think the 1987 Constitutional Convention overreacted a bit by changing the two-party system (which I think was working) to a multi-party system. I think they changed it because after Marcos was deposed, they were afraid that it would be easy for 1 person to control 2 parties (as what Marcos had unconstitutionally achieved through Martial law) than a multi-party system.
The downside of the latter is that any Tom, Dick and Harry can form his own party and become President (e.g. Ramos…although he turned out to be a relatively good choice [personally I would have voted for Sen. Jovito Salonga at that time], even if he is not qualified to do so (e.g. ERAP).
Note that before Marcos came in the picture, the two party system was working well, e.g. The original Nacionalista party (as oppose to the current Nacionalista party of Danding Cojuanco) and the Liberal party (still relatively intact…except for Lito Atienza who is more like from GMA’s Kampi) (sort of akin to the Republican and Democratic system here in the U.S.). With a strong 2-party system, the parties are able to field the most (in the party’s opinion) qualified Presidential candidate (unlike today where movie and TV personalities who are clearly not qualified can run). Note that Presidents after 1965 are not selected by the majority as in the past (that is why we had better Presidents then) but by a mere plurality of Filipinos - there are just too many candidates.
The problem is exacerbated by the fact that most Filipino voters seem to lack the political maturity and the education (they should start teaching the Constitution and values at the elementary level. What is DECS doing?) to select qualified candidates. Although, there has been some improvement in that area (e.g. Manny Pacquiao’s loss to Darlene Custodio in the Gen San congressional race).
(By the way, I really hate that shoe commercial featuring Manny Pacquiao with “Lupang Hinirang” playing at the background…”ang mamatay nang dahil sayo.” Apparently, the makers think he is a national hero. Jose Rizal is national hero. Manny Pacquiao is an athlete).
However, there are still a significant number of voters that are having a hard time distinguishing between popularity and competence.
The other problem is that our system (which was originally based on the American system of “separation of powers” of the 3 branches of government (Executive, Legislative & Judiciary) - the purpose of which was to check and balance each other has failed to work after 1972 because Marcos “doctored” it beyond recognition. As a result, the Office of the President became more powerful (unlike the U.S. version) than the two other branches (Congress w/c includes the lower house and the Senate).
Here, Pres. Bush would not be able to issue an E.O. prohibiting executive officials from appearing in a Senate hearing because it is unconstitutional and a violation of the checks and balances principle. Executive officials are generally (and should be) answerable to Congress.
However, it does not work in the Philippines because Malacanang is able to buy the Congressmen through the release of funds (which is a violation of the Anti Graft and Corrupt Practices Act). In effect, Philippine congressmen become beholden to the President (that’s why 34 of them went with her to Madrid even if it appears they have no business being there especially that there is a huge backlog of bills pending at the Batasan). This is not what separation of powers was originally intended.
I believe, however, that the current system can be fixed by going back to the 2-party system (through a Constitutional amendment) and maybe clipping the powers of the President. But it appears that no one trusts whoever will attempt to fix with the Constitution.
December 9th, 2007 at 11:51 am
pinilit lang daw si lim na sumama sa manila pen……..
isang dagok na naman kay trillanes………
baka may napipilitan lang dyan na nagtatanggol kay trillanes……….
now is time, join lim……..
December 8th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Kabayan
Philippines, is now recognized top ten in the world in terms of prevalence of bribery. Yet the administration simply ignores this and go their merry corrupt ways.
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petty bribery yata……………….
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tignan ninyo eksena………..
si totoy nagaaral, gumagawa ng assignment.
ina: toy, eto 10 piso, bili ka ng 5 pisong mantika, sa iyo na sukli.
totoy: opo inay.
sunod na araw.
si totoy nagaaral, gumagawa ng assignment.
ina: toy, eto 5 piso, bili ka ng 5 pisong mantika.
totoy: mamya na po, nag aaral pa ako.
bata pa lang natuturuan na ng bribery, hindi kikilos kung walang lagay……….
isang suhesyon lang po. umpisahan po natin sa sariling bahay, iwasto po natin ang values na ipinamumukat sa ating mga anak para hindi kalakihan……..
December 8th, 2007 at 8:57 am
Earthquake intensity 4 in Samar, intensity 3 in Rizal and intensity 3 in Leyte
December 8th, 2007 at 6:19 am
“There’s a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it.” - William Wallace.
December 7th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
you mean there was an earthquake bec. of the news re our being in the top 10 where bribery is prevalent? i thought everyone knows about our being in the ring of fire :-))
re corruption, bribery, influence-peddling…what else is new?
of course we feel bad we are in the headlines again and not due to some positive developments but the opposite.
to feel good, just remember what is happening here is not unique, whether it be korea, japan, india, albania, peru, even palestine, people are the same, they are weak and always subject to temptations.
to those who keep on looking at corrupt politicians, do not look far….just ask the policeman, how many car owners have offered him money for the day to avoid hassles at lto?
next, ask your revenue examiner why he has lots of money? taxpayers pay him dirty money to avoid paying the legal tax base. isn’t that corruption too? you will say, its not big deal. i say to you, corruption big or small is the same thing.
but even if we know govt officials are corrupt, must we do the same?
you have no right to accuse and blame anyone if you are guilty of the offense yourselves.
if the peso is strong, you complain bec. the ofw’s $$ becomes small. but if the $$ is strong, peso weak, you complain just the same. ano ba talaga kuya?
self-proclaimed economists….tell us what the solution is.
sec. teves or favila might be reading your blogs…
now, to those who want gma out before 2010, do you propose snap elections? what is the legal basis? mabuti kong mag-vacate yan.
granting you sacked gma. what next? noli takes over? do you want that? or you are rooting for erap, binay, trillanes or even jinggoy…
don’t use terms such as “go to hell or let the gma people be burned at stake”….bec. as jossher has said, it just goes to show one is running out of arguments!
re the present presidential system… candidates spend 300M just to win, bec. that amount is needed to lodge his campaign. and what happens if he wins? of course he will recoup that and more? how? shady deals, contracts to favor his supporters, etc. it will never end. our system is not like in the usa where its electoral college. here, you have to campaign all over the country, pay too many people so your votes will be counted, etc.
if that is the system you want, do not whine if the winning candidate will resort to corruption.
there is no such thing as free lunch….a new set of cronies will emerge to recoup their investments.
tell me if i’m wrong!
note: to berudandii…welcome, re cj’s thanks.
December 7th, 2007 at 12:41 pm
“jossher….natros has a point, i assume you read the scandals in the usa involving the cath. priests, they paid billions of $$ in settlement re sex scandals. they must concentrate on cleaning their ranks first before they try to accuse people of corruption.”
And the connection between priests in accused of sexual abuse in the U.S. and Filipino priests in the Philippines calling for GMA’s resignation is….?
Sorry, I have ceased to be Catholic so I’m not privy to the connection.
If we wait for them to clean their ranks (or not speak until we clean ourselves up) then we might wait for a million years for that to happen (unless everyone falls down on their knees repent of their sins and turn to Christ). You think there is enough time for the Philippines?
Meanwhile, do you want your children to grow up in a country whose economy is deteriorating as fast as Bangladesh with a confused culture where what is against the law is ok for certain people? Let them grow up in a place where we jail people for stealing a few hundred pesos to feed their families while allowing public officials who steal billions to go scott free? Is that justice or “just ti-is”?
If the French people waited to clean their ranks before making the monarchy accountable in 1789 then they would still be under the oppression of the corrupt monarchy.
If the Americans waited to clean their ranks in 1763 then they’d still be under British rule.
If the Allied forces waited to clean their ranks and did not drive the Axis powers in WWII, Europe would still be under the Nazis and the Philippines would still be under Imperial Japan.
If Nelson Mandela waited for his family to clean up their ranks, there would still be apartheid in South Africa.
If Filipinos waited to clean their ranks before they made Marcos accountable in 1986, where would we be now?
“unlike these wanna-be priests and trying hard, pilit na pilit to be like sin, wala silang k, hindi bagay sa kanila! nag-iisa lang ang card. sin..sige nga, what homilies have they written for us to learn from it? nada….”
I don’t think you need a priest to tell you what’s right and wrong. Faith is learned from God’s word (the Bible) not necessarily from priests. I have learned that a long time ago.
But, as long as they are Filipino citizens especially those who pay taxes, they can question their leaders (meron K). Government officials are not gods. They are mere mortals that can be questioned, prosecuted, tried and jailed if they commit crimes (in some countries even shot).
I don’t undertand why there is such awe, such resilience, such “steal from me…oppress me some more” mascohistic defeatist attitude, such fear of those people whose sworn duty is to uphold the law who instead stab us at the back by selling our future to the highest bidders. Forcing people in droves to leave their families behind to find decent work because they can’t stop the itch from pinching the national coffers and bleed the country dry.
And what is that forgotten law they took an oath to uphold?…”Salus populi est suprema lex” (”The welfare of the people shall be the supreme law”). With all these defeatist attitude, it makes me think whether the Philippines desrve the leaders they have. I don’t want to bellieve in that. I believe that Filipinos, if they put thier minds together, can rise above that “go along…get along conquered people” mentality. (walang K magsalita laban sa mga tiwaling opisyal….bakit mas may K ba ang mga tiwaling opisyal na magnakaw sa kaban ng bayan?)
The Philippines has been under Spanish monarchial rule for 400 hundred years, the Americans for almost 50, the Japense for 5 and Marcos for 20 where suppression of rights were tolerated dahil “walang k” ang mga tao. I’m sure you pay your taxes. Aren’t aghast at how they spend the taxpayer’s money?
I believe that the Filipino people are way better than that.
December 7th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Skepik
I agree to clipmaster and natros
because they are Rational!
I disagree to stepp, jeri and salina
because they are IRRAtIONAL!
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Too bad, You don’t agree with me. I’m not going to loss sleep over it. Thank god! for that.
December 7th, 2007 at 10:06 am
Kabayan
Philippines, is now recognized top ten in the world in terms of prevalence of bribery. Yet the administration simply ignores this and go their merry corrupt ways.
Meanwhile an intensity 2 earthquake shook Manila.
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My goodness! Top Ten, Only. I hope the Malacanyang Palace shake the foundation off to the ground. Enough to get rid of this Corrupt regime of Gloria Arroyo. Manhid na talaga!
December 7th, 2007 at 8:49 am
Philippines, is now recognized top ten in the world in terms of prevalence of bribery. Yet the administration simply ignores this and go their merry corrupt ways.
Meanwhile an intensity 2 earthquake shook Manila.
December 7th, 2007 at 8:37 am
“Maybe you should contemplate the words of someone like Frederik the Great who said “If I wished to punish a province, I would have it governed by philosophers.”
So you mean you’d rather have crooks running the government than people with ideals and morals? Didn’t your mother teach you stealing is bad? Oh I’m sorry, is your mother a politician?
“Sorry to tell you this but if you are studying law and the above argumentation is the best you can do I don’t think the prospects of you passing are good.”
Well, apparently that’s too late because I already have a license to practice law and a post-grad degree.
“My sympathies are extended because those starting out without capital or educational attainment face a much harder time and are at a great disadvantage.”
Sure you symphatize….sarcastically and condescendingly that is. You remind me of those types who notice other people’s misfortune just so they could feel good about themselves.
“Look at those self-righteous blowhards proclaiming how everyone is immoral and needs to be more moral.”
Well, no one actually is. “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” Rom. 23. It’s no excuse though not to strive to be a better person or at least to follow the law, to follow what is right. Or at the very least to be a little considerate to 70% of the country’s population who earn less than $2 a day. People who could not even benefit from basic services because some politician would rather spend the money (which he or she doesn’t even own) to fly to Madrid on a junket. For a self-proclaimed “economist,” I can’t believe you actually think corruption is good for the economy. I don’t think even Adam Smith would agree with you.
All I’m saying is that crooks in the Philippine government need to leave so that our country can move on economically considering that corruption is the no. 1 reason why the country fell behind from our no. 2 spot in the 50’s. Is that too much to ask? Apparently for some people it is.
But don’t worry, whether I complain about corruption in the Philippines or not, won’t matter in the end because there will be divine justice whether you believe in it or not…”Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Cor. 6:10.
I agree…the Philippines is a Banana Republic….the reason? Corruption and because of people who think its ok. That’s precisely the reason why I left and decided live and work in a country (from where I send my hard earned OFW dollars to the Philippines) where they actually jail corrupt politicians.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
jossher….natros has a point, i assume you read the scandals in the usa involving the cath. priests, they paid billions of $$ in settlement re sex scandals. they must concentrate on cleaning their ranks first before they try to accuse people of corruption.
yes, i agree, cardinal sin led us to edsa 1 and 2, but card. sin is an entirely difft. icon. people can sense his sincerity, truthfulness and he used his wit and charisma to the max. unlike these wanna-be priests and trying hard, pilit na pilit to be like sin, wala silang k, hindi bagay sa kanila! nag-iisa lang ang card. sin..sige nga, what homilies have they written for us to learn from it? nada….
re measly pay of govt. people….the only solution to that is to make pay competitive, so that good people will work for govt. and not incompetents only.
remove the temptation and opportunity.
mc_90….agree, yung idol nila na nagkape sa pen, gusto maging presidente, juskupo!
magagalit si ping, mar, villar, etal nyan!
to inesna…you are funny in a nice way, a little bit of sarcasm.
rafy canlas, manuel, tonio…..good piece, i like what you wrote re media.
if you do not like people to use the term “go to hell”….do not use the phrase “let them be burned at stake” yourselves. apply the golden rule in this blog.
December 6th, 2007 at 11:55 am
[quote from Jossher]
You are the first person I have heard in my entire life that says idealism is or morals for that matter are bad.[/quote]
Then you’re welcome. Perhaps you should start expanding your horizons. Almost anything when taken to an extreme can turn out badly. Ice cream is delicious to eat; too much, however, and you might experience heartburn. Communism can be said to be a more idealistic system of government than a capitalist democracy. Unfortunately it doesn’t work. Maybe you should contemplate the words of someone like Frederik the Great who said “If I wished to punish a province, I would have it governed by philosophers.”
[quote]Fugitive? The term “fugitive” as in fuigitive from justice means “a person convicted a crime who hides from the law.” Apparently, in your world Trillanes is already guilty before a court of competent jurisdiction declares him to be such. Apparently, you also missed the class on a person’s right to be “presumed innocent” until proven otherwise.
…Due process means the right to be heard (in court) before one is arrested or incarcerated. Which constitutional standard of reasonableness are you referring to? I’m not even sure if they still do that in the former communist block.
I still have to read a case penned by the Philippine or U.S. Supreme Court which espouses such a standard.
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Sorry to tell you this but if you are studying law and the above argumentation is the best you can do I don’t think the prospects of you passing are good. Look up the words “fugitive” and “arrest” in a dictionary. You’re reading and comprehension needs work. Both from a legalistic and common sense point of view you are spouting nonsense. A fugitive need not be convicted. A suspect is arrested before being brought to court to face a judge. Considering the above forgive me if I think your ability to interpret laws is gravely lacking and if I am completely unimpressed by your citation of various laws.
[quote from Jossher]From your statement[…] It appears that you only think about yourself and your profits. Clearly a SELFISH individual who does not care about his country and his fellowmen. Now I understand why you seem not to like the “morality” and “idealism” arguments.
Selfish? Yes. But not caring about my country? No. I care about my country that’s why I am expressing my disdain for the hypocritical stupid ideas I see bandied around all the time by my countrymen like you in this blog. Your understanding of selfishness seems limited. Read Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations. Self interest is what makes capitalism work and why it is so successful.
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You also seem to have some sort of “superiority complex” bordering on narcisistic tendencies. Looking down at people by reason of their low educational level or financial inability, just shows the kind of values you were taught. It’s sad.
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Your statement once again shows poor reading and comprehension. My sympathies are extended because those starting out without capital or educational attainment face a much harder time and are at a great disadvantage.
You want to find people with a superiority complex? Look at those self-righteous blowhards proclaiming how everyone is immoral and needs to be more moral. You need look no further than a mirror. I’d simply ignore such talk if what what was said was helping this country but it’s not. It’s making this country worse. People like you are out of touch with reality. Next time you hear the sentiment that the Philippines is a banana republic or that the Church has been a bad influence maybe just maybe you might start to understand why.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:29 am
stepp
ano ba yumg lihim na agenda nila gma…….
maski ako naniwalang maraming katarantaduhan sa gobyerno, sa barangay lang, marami na ang illegal, sa national pa kaya……..
ang kaso, tagagawa ng batas ang senador, sana nag ahin siya ng isang magandang batas para masawata ang talamak na kurakot sa ARM FORCES OF THE PHILS. …………
o kaya ipabasa niya ang isang previlege speech niya sa senado, ihayag ang kanyang saloobin, sabihin ang mga pangalan pati na mga opisyal na nangunugrakot sa afp at pnp………..
ang daming niyang options, ewan ko kung bakit hindi niya gamitin, may hidden agenda rin kaya siya……..
palagay ko gusto na niyang maging presidente ngayon, oramismo………
December 6th, 2007 at 1:15 am
“Go to hell hypocrites!!!” ….the response when one runs out of arguments.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:59 am
abbygail
i read in one of the columns in inquirer, the reasons why trillanes’ caper failed:
1. the weather was bad…it was raining. the previous 2 edsas were held february, no rains. pinoys hate to be wet from rain.
2. it was held nearing a weekend, when people are busy preparing for long vacation.
3. nov. dec. are bonus months. people are busy shopping, etc. since they have money from remittance or from bonuses.
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akala ko matalino yung mama…….
ang unggoy nga sumisilong at hindi naghahanap ng pagkain pag masama ang panahon……..
baka absent, may sakit, noong itinuro sa pma…….
o nagbubulakbol sa isang hotel……
nagmamadali kasi……….
gustong magpasko sa malacanang……….
gustong siya na ang tumanggap ng mga aguinaildo galing sa mga ??????lords, name it………
malacanang is the best hotel in the philippines……….
at ang number 4, galit lang ang tao kay gma kaya siya binoto, kung baga eh pampuno lang ang pangalan niya sa balota, walang dumating sa inaasahan niyang 11 million votes, kawawa naman………..
number 5, from a captain, iniloklok na nga agad siya bilang senador, kay bilis naman, wala pang pinakikitang performance eh gusto ng maging president, tama na, sobra na ang abuso mo, hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon ay makakaloko ka………..
December 5th, 2007 at 11:52 pm
To: Jossher:
Man, you are good, a truly moral person, and I agree with your kind of reasoning. Except one. And that is that you are espousing reverting to the Parliamentary form of government, the one thing the lovers of the scammers in blogosphere are itching to do. And for what? To perpetuate the hold to power of their idol forever, what else! Just observe. In the days to come the MUSIC TO DANCE THE CHA-CHA will start to play. Sure as the sun will shine tomorrow, the lovers of the scammers in blogosphere will then start their chorus to the tune of this Cha-Cha music. If the moral denizens invoke the silence of the lamb, and you, Jossher, want to revert to Parliamentary system, chances are the scammers could succeed in ramming their evil plan into our throat. This will result to GMA and JDV, and their hordes of congressmen holding on to power forever. And nothing change. You, Jossher, and the rest of us will be stuck in the same stinking morality of governance you so vehemently detest today. And the lovers of the scammers in blogosphere will rejoice. Hu-hu-hu-hu-hu-hu.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Priests are people too. Like you and me, they have a Constitutional right to redress their grievances against the government in public. Trying to silence people by reason of their beliefs is a dangerous thing. Isn’t that what they did to Jesus Christ when he preached against the immorality of his day? Didn’t the authorities silence him through crucifixion?
December 5th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
“I am greatly dismayed when I learned that some catholic bishops and priests are joining Trillanes…”
Were you also dismayed when Cardinal Sin and the church called on the people to join Enrile and Ramos during the 86 EDSA Revolution?
“in his rebellion.” There was no rebellion. Rebellion requires the “raising of arms against the government.”
December 5th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
I stand in the way of no one’s ambition. I only ask that no one stand in the way of the people’s well being and the nation’s progress.
The time for facing off is over. The time is here for facing forward to a better future our people so desperately want and richly deserve.
Uulitin ko: Hindi ako sagabal sa ambisyon ninuman.
But make no mistake. I will not stand idly when anyone gets in the way of the national interest and tries to block the national vision. From where I sit, I can tell you, a President is always as strong as she wants to be.
Pagpalain tayo ng Diyos at ang dakilang gawaing hinaharap natin. The state of the nation is strong. Inyong lingkod, Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, Pangulo ng Republika ng Pilipinas.
We love You President Arroyo so much!
You are the best president so far!
December 5th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
I agree to clipmaster and natros
because they are Rational!
I disagree to stepp, jeri and salina
because they are IRRAtIONAL!
December 5th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
I am greatly dismayed when I learned that some catholic bishops and priests are joining Trillanes in his rebellion. They urged the Filipino people to attend demonstrations to reject what they called “morally bankrupt government”. Most if not all of these administration officials are Roman Catholic, therefore, isn’t it but a clear indication that the church led by these bishops utterly failed in its prime duty and mission of guiding the flock? Go to hell hypocrites!!!
December 5th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
katipunero
sa yo BKK at sa iba pang mga TANGA!!! Binarikadahan agad ang Manila Pen ng sandamakmak na pulis at sundalo. so saan dadaan ang mga supporter. nanginginig mga tumbong nila, wla 50 tao run eh me mga tangke pa sila pinadala alam nila dadami agad tao run pag pinatagal pa DAHIL ginawa na nila yan kay ERAP kaya takot sila sa multo nila. Ngunit ang bottom line dito lalong naghirap ang pilipino sa pamumuno ni gloria 7 years na! Asan??? di na ko mkapag intay, gawan na ito dapat ng aksiyon.
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mas T*A*N*G*A ang idol mo, alam pala niyang 50 lang sila, nagtapang tapangan pa ‘hindi kami aalis dito’, tear gas lang, bahag na buntot………
wise lang sila gma, matalino. si erap simple lang pala solution noong nilusob ang malacanang, container van lang iharang mo sa kalsada, safe ka, puro kasi T*A*N*G*A ang mga advisers pati ang puno eh………..
may talagang naghihirap, pero mayroon din naman mga masisipag na umaasenso…….
tamang tama ‘katipunero’, hindi ka makapag intay, gusto mo ng aksiyon, magsisigaw ka ng ‘lusob mga kapatid’……
doon sa hotel crame, andoon pa yata sila……..
baka naman hindi ka sumuporta sa idol mo sa manila pen, nakakahiya, palitan mo na yung ‘katipunero’……..
December 5th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
natros: yup I am aware that they steal to recoup their huge spending on getting elected. Public office has ceased to be about public service, it has become a commercial enterprise where the main objective of getting elected is to steal public funds. There are election laws which regulate spending. The most important thing is, whatever their reason for robbing the people, it is WRONG…legally, morally, biblically, socially, etc.
December 5th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
“maybe even economic sabotage”???
You are just guessing. The law is not the stockmarket wherein you base your analysis on rumors, inconclusive econoimc data, price ratio earnings, moving averages, the fibonacci scales and stochastics. Legal definitions are more precise than that. The rationale being is that it involves deprivation of life, liberty and property. I don’t think that even you would want to be prosecuted a “crime” based on a “maybe” elements.
Under the rule of lenity, any doubt as to the accused’s acts are ALWAYS construed in his favor and against the prosecutiong authority. So back to your charge of “economic sabotage,” did Trillanes, et al engage in illegal recruitment? I was just curious because PD 2018 which defines the criime of economic sabotage only refers to large scale illegal recruitment for employment purposes. Unless, he was recruiting the other soldiers to work as OFWs in Saudi Arabia without a POEA license, I don’t think their acts qualifies as “economic sabotage.”
December 5th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
lahat tayo may kanya kanya opinion ! look anu ginagawa ni arroyo at esposo nya… may mga lihim na agenda, at yan nakikita ng mga sundalo may prinsippyo tulad ng magdalo at trillanes… talamak ang kurakot sa ARM FORCES OF THE PHILS. mas kawawa ang sundalo dahil nakikinabang dito ang matataas na official ng batas…. look sino ang mali karapatan ng bawat filipino ang maglahad ng katotohan kung nakikita mong dapat tumayo para ilahad ang karapatan mo laban sa mga taong mapagsamantala tulad ng Gobyerno ngayun…
December 5th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
if you r filipino nation sa tingin nyo ba si gloria makapilipino, mas priotized nito mga foreigner not poor pilipino, galit sya dahil di sya mahal ng masa. kahit kami tahimik kami mga mamayan pera kami kaisa ng mga taong nakikita ang paghihirap at grap corruption ng gobyerno. tahimik kami pagkat di kami sangayon sa makasariling kapakakanan ng namumuno ngayun,kapit tuko sa mga galamay nya…… tamaan ng tamaan pero ramdam ang matinding kurakot sa regimen na to. huwag naman gamitin ang pera at buwis ng mamayan para pangsupply sa mga galamay ng gobyerno arroyo.. maawaaaaaaaaaa kayo di lang kayo tao sa pilipinas >>>
di nyo madadala ang kasakiman sa ibang mundo …salamat sa bloggg at ngayun llang nakapag comment
December 5th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
if you r filipino nation sa tingin nyo ba si gloria makapilipino, mas priotized nito mga foreigner not poor pilipino, galit sya dahil di sya mahal ng masa. kahit kami tahimik kami mga mamayan pera kami kaisa ng mga taong nakikita ang paghihirap at grap corruption ng gobyerno. tahimik kami pagkat di kami sangayon sa makasariling kapakakanan ng namumuno ngayun,kapit tuko sa mga galamay nya…… tamaan ng tamaan pero ramdam ang matinding kurakot sa regimen na to. huwag naman gamitin ang pera at buwis ng mamayan para pangsupply sa mga galamay ng gobyerno arroyo.. maawaaaaaaaaaa kayo di lang kayo tao sa pilipinas >>>
di nyo madadala ang kasakiman sa ibang mundo …salamat sa bloggg at ngayun lang ako nakapag comment tagal na akong nabubuwisit sa regimen ni gloria
December 5th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
jeri…
narrapat lang gawin yun kay gloria, hindi na manganda pamamalakad nya, lahat ng mga linta sa likuran nya ang nakikinabang ng mga pamumudod nya ng pera, ultimo mga general dito ay nagkakarioon
December 5th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Hi Salina,
Siguro napaka perpekto mong tao kaya kung makapagsalita ka laban sa pangulo parang wala kang kasalanan sa mundo na nagawa. Parang ang galing mo na parang hindi rin.
Alam mo kung bakit ko nasasabi ito, kasi parang iisa lang ang solusyon mo para mapaunlad ang bansa, ang magpatalsik, palpak naman.
Ayos sana ang mga idea mo kaso ang mga kasangga mo yata ay mas gahaman pa sa kapangyarihan.
Instead na tumutulong na lang sa mga mahihirap nanggugulo pa.
Ang dapat kailangan mo munang gawin ay tumingin sa salamin at aminin mo na makasalan ka.
Yun ang dapat!
December 5th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
“Jossher you can continue playing the idealism card.”
You are the first person I have heard in my entire life that says idealism is or morals for that matter are bad.
“Jossher but if you use a little more common sense you will realize that Trillanes and Lim were ESCAPED FUGITIVES.”
Fugitive? The term “fugitive” as in fuigitive from justice means “a person convicted a crime who hides from the law.” Apparently, in your world Trillanes is already guilty before a court of competent jurisdiction declares him to be such. Apparently, you also missed the class on a person’s right to be “presumed innocent” until proven otherwise.
“they were committing a crime in inflagrante delicto.” Which crime was that? You say sedition? Art. 139, RPC will tell you different. Know the legal elements of the law first before you accuse people of crimes.
“possession of firearms”…was Triallanes in possession of a firearm? There is no such crime as possession of a firearm by osmosis.
“trespassing”? Art. 280 and 281, the only law on trespass requires that it be a dwelling. Is the lobby of the Manila Pen a dwelling? The other kind of trespass requires that it be a “closed premises or the fenced estate of another.” As far as I know, the Manila pen was open at that time.
“As for the media arrests it strikes me that they were subject to due process of law, any searches and seizures considering the cirumstances were reasonable, and they were right smack dab in the middle of a crime scene.
Due process means the right to be heard (in court) before one is arrested or incarcerated. Which constitutional standard of reasonableness are you referring to? I’m not even sure if they still do that in the former communist block.
I still have to read a case penned by the Philippine or U.S. Supreme Court which espouses such a standard.
“But please consider first who you would consider a good president.”
How about Ramon Magsaysay? Manuel Quezon, Sergio Osmena and Manuel Roxas. Fidel Ramos, even with the corruption, was a way better President than GMA. At least Ming Ramos had the decency to stay away from government projects.
“Jossher as long as you and people like you keep sticking your heads in the sand as to the root causes of the problem by simply blaming politicians for their lack of morality, expect this country to continue going nowhere.”
So you think congratulating them for stealing the electoral process and government money is the answer? It is not only our right to blame them but it is our duty to tell them if they are VIOLATING THE LAW. No one, including “your beloved politicians,” are above the law.
How about you? What have you done to help the country? Play the stock market? You are not even investing long term enough to help the capital market in the Philippines which up to now is one of the smallest stock exchanges in the world. You think the Philippine stock exchange is full of honest people? I know politicians and corrupt businessmen from the time of Marcos up to now who play up the prices and hurt legitimate investors.
From your statement: “I was making money yesterday riding my stock positions higher on a global rebound in the financial markets but then that irritating idiot Trillanes crawled out from the hole he was banished to and lost me some dough. Why do people support such morons?” It appears that you only think about yourself and your profits. Clearly a SELFISH individual who does not care about his country and his fellowmen. Now I understand why you seem not to like the “morality” and “idealism” arguments.
“For those uneducated people out there without capital I feel sympathy. I presume, however, those of you reading this with your internet connections are educated and for you there is no excuse.”
You also seem to have some sort of “superiority complex” bordering on narcisistic tendencies. Looking down at people by reason of their low educational level or financial inability, just shows the kind of values you were taught. It’s sad.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:26 am
Jossher
ano kaya ang intensyon ni trillanes sa manila pen, magkape, nakakatawa naman, ano yan lokohan……….
yon na nga eh, bakit may mga baril at armalite kung magkakape lang, sana inwan na lang sa kampo o bahay nila, hindi pa sila mangangamba gamitin ng iba…….
edsa 1 is a revolution not a rally, nagkataon lang na marami na ang sawa kay marcos. enrile, ramos, gringo were then considered as rebels, may mga self interest din yung mga yan kaya tuloy pa rin coup nila noon kay cory…………
nakita mo reaksyon ng security ng manila pen, namumutla ng pwersahan nilang basagin ang pinto para makapasok, ano ang laban ng mama sa armalite…….
tapos pag pinakitaan sila ng tangke sasabihin ‘overkill’ ano ang dapat ipapakita, tirador. buti nga yung tear gas hindi expired, gumagana…….
ok lang ba na sila ang maglamang kapwa, you should also condemn what they did to that poor security, the way they force themselves into the hotel……
bakit kailangan pang bumaba si trillanes at mag fashion show para lang palabasin ang mga hotel guest, what is their original intention, innocent warm bodies to shield them, di ba………….
ay, public statement or press conference pala, akala ko magkakape lang, sorry……
do you honestly believe on what you are saying………
gma cannot declare martial law like marcos did, there are now checks and balances before she can do it…………
yan ang pinoy, inaapi na nakatawa pa. antay antay lang tayo, hindi si trillanes ang savior ng pinas, don’t choose between two evils………
may lalabas at lalabas ding taong karapat dapat na mamuno sa atin……….
lets us all pray for the betterment of our people and country………
December 5th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Eureka
Sorry for the third consecutive post but I was catching up on all that was said previously.
“Apparently, you were absent when they taught the Constitution in Social Studies and Philippine History at your school:
“Sec. 1. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law…”; “Sec. 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, …against unreasonable searches and seizures of whatever nature and for any purpose shall be inviolable, and no…warrant of arrest shall issue except upon probable cause to be determined personally by the judge…”
“Sec. 4. No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances.”
Why thank you for the civics and constitutional law lesson Jossher but if you use a little more common sense you will realize that Trillanes and Lim were ESCAPED FUGITIVES. They do not need to be served arrest warrants. Furthermore they were committing a crime in inflagrante delicto. Sedition comes to mind but if you want nitty gritty escaping from arrest, possession of firearms, trespassing, and creating a public disturbance can easily be thrown in, maybe even economic sabotage. Are you seriously going to question the illegality of Trillanes and Company’s actions???
As for the media arrests it strikes me that they were subject to due process of law, any searches and seizures considering the cirumstances were reasonable, and they were right smack dab in the middle of a crime scene. Media who were outside were not detained. Moreover, they were released pretty quickly and are free to protest their detention.
I don’t see the problem.
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You didn’t see a problem because you don’t want to see it. Just like Gloria Arroyo, She keep saying to follow the rules of law; But, Yet she’s the one shitting the rules of law; Sa dami ng kasalanan niya sa tao bayan only rules of force can set her free. She’s the one should be in jail for all the corruption she has been doing. But, That will never happen because she control the entire corrupt justice system.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:40 am
royburke
clipmaster
chong, itaas naman natin ang antas ng ating kamalayan..pwede bang labanan ng ilang may baril ang kahit isang batalyon lang na sundalo? kung ikaw ba may hawak na itak at nananawagan kang baguhin ang liderato ng bansa, pwede ka nang kasuhan ng rebelyon? sa mandaluyong ka dapat, hindi sa munti at kasama mo ang mga taga DOJ..hehe..
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chong ,t*a*n*g*a ang kasi ang idol mo eh, nakakahiya, graduate pa naman ng pma…….
singkwentang lang kasma niya, akala mo kung sino nagtatapang tapangan, wala din palang B*A*Y*A*G……….
magdalo pa ang pangalan ng grupo nila, baka bumangaon si gat adres bonificacio sa kabaklaan niya……….
kwento ko pa ba syo ginawang laban ni bonifacio, yan ang matapang na tao, maski itak lang at battalyon ang kalaban, eh si idol mo, tear gas pa lang, bahag na ang buntot………
puro pasarap kasi gusto ng idol mo, tignan mo ang mga magsasaka naglakad galing bukindnon hanggang pasay, yan ang mga taong may principyo, dapat hangaan, tunay na bayani………….
yung idol mo ano, pa coup coup sa oakwood, manila pen, soysyal ah, o ngayon dadalhin sila new bilibid hotel………
punta ka doon at doon ninyo ituloy ang laban mong idol, baka sakaling maibaksak na ninyo si gma………..
mamulat ka sana sa katotohanang manloloko si idol mo………..
baka mas matitino pa tao sa loob ng mandaluyong kaysa idol mo, hindi sila mag rerebelyon kung 50 tao lang sila…………
sumuporta ka ba sa manila pen, baka hindi, sayang………..
sana magkasama na kayo ni idol at nakahingi ka ng autograp o nagpa kodak kasama niya………..
may mga pamamaraan para pailitan si gma, wag naman yung oraorada, gusto nasa limelight agad………
antay antay lang tayo, 3 taong patay na si ninoy, edsa 1, ang haba ng impeachment trial ni erap, puyat tayo sa kakasubaybay, edsa 2, mamukat mukat mo 2010, election na……….
huwag daanin sa dahas…………
December 5th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Ahh finally the blogsite is being filtered. The discussion was degrading into a flame war and the recently lack of editing prodded me to fight fire with fire. Apologies to John and Manuel for the tit for tat I had to respond to less civilized individuals in this blog.
In any case, it doesn’t matter. If this government does not change it ways and eradicate corruption, Gloria administration has a great danger of falling just like the Erap administration. Expect more natural and man-made calamities to come in the future if corruption is not addressed.
Other major concerns are the destruction of our environment. pollution, and general state of consciousness of the populace still treating money as god and also exploiting and abusing his fellowman and nature.
Take heed this warning, what has to happen will happen unless these evil ways are changed.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:06 am
abbygail
i read in one of the columns in inquirer, the reasons why trillanes’ caper failed:
1. the weather was bad…it was raining. the previous 2 edsas were held february, no rains. pinoys hate to be wet from rain.
2. it was held nearing a weekend, when people are busy preparing for long vacation.
3. nov. dec. are bonus months. people are busy shopping, etc. since they have money from remittance or from bonuses.
lessons….learn from history, have a plan and execute it. and if need be, DIE FOR YOUR CAUSE!
akala ko ba may mpa public policy planning from up yung idol nyo? ngek! try again!
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Don’t worry, We will. The game is not over until is over. You can hide under fake President of cebu when that happen. We’re going to throw her ass in the stinky pasig river.
December 5th, 2007 at 7:27 am
Jossher
“GMA is a good president believe it or not.”
Apparently, your standards for a President of a democratic country are very low.
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Good on what? Robbing the country.
Who’s you talking too? regarding standard for President are very low? I hope not me>.
For as long as Gloria Arroyo, The one squatting in Malacanyang Palace, The Philippines can’t move forward. Because she’s the problem!!!
December 5th, 2007 at 3:48 am
czar matthew
log on to http://www.snap08.blogspot.com and signed for the resignation of gloria and noli.
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Sir! Nothing good will happen to your pitition. I already said it before if only they listen to me. This things never happen. Dapat sana all system go! to kick the fake President of cebu.
Think twice before doing what you’re doing. As we all can see it she control the entire corrupt justice system. She have plenty of money to buy them off anything you say, or do will be judge by her corrupt cronies. If you really want to get rid of her do something useful.
to anybody who curious about this site. don’t click the sign because you just never know who’s this site belong too. It could be the enemy site. Watch out. They already highjack my computer. Thats enough to warn me. Thats!
December 5th, 2007 at 2:31 am
Di sana nabulilyaso ang balak niya sa Manila Pen.
Trillanes: Haler! Mga Magdalesh! Musta na? Handa na ba ang mga chenelyn chorva?
Magdalo: Ay naku Mader! Handang-handa na… Jusko kamusta naman ang beauty namin ang hirap asikasuhin ang mga chuva ek ek!
Trillanes: Ay vongga mga sisters! Wag kalimutang ipaglandi sa mga chuva ang mga project ever natin tomorrow, okay?! Pakita natin sa mga antibiotic na chaka at ng kanyang federasyon niya… Sige rampa ko follow ever nalang kayo, ha Sige babush! Mwaah!
Magdalo: Whatever, whatever.
December 5th, 2007 at 1:11 am
I agree completely with Jossher. Morality is the linchpin of a civil and righteous society. A morally upright society will be a strong society economically, politically and even militarily.
Most wars are won by the more morally upright side.
But dont confuse a skirmish or a battle with the whole war.
The actions of Sen. Trillanes is just a minor skirmish. This political war is far from over. And only history will judge the final winner.
December 4th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
what some people are proposing is anarchy. but then, you will tell me again that i am for status quo bec. i love gma….w/c is stupid & ridiculous!
what we want is certainly not uncertainty. what you offer us is the dark ages & anarchy.
will you feed us if we go hungry? what is your roadmap if you remove gma and co.?
trillanes gave you a plan of action? no one came among his alleged 11M voters.
people are wise enough to see through his 2010 plans (in your dreams, man).
December 4th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
clipmaster
chong, itaas naman natin ang antas ng ating kamalayan..pwede bang labanan ng ilang may baril ang kahit isang batalyon lang na sundalo? kung ikaw ba may hawak na itak at nananawagan kang baguhin ang liderato ng bansa, pwede ka nang kasuhan ng rebelyon? sa mandaluyong ka dapat, hindi sa munti at kasama mo ang mga taga DOJ..hehe..
December 4th, 2007 at 10:42 pm
natros
To kakosa, salina et. al:
Kong totoong ayaw mong sumuporta sa mga sinungaling at mandaraya eh bakit ka susuporta kay Trillanes? Sabi ni Trillanes para sa taongbayan ang kanyang ginawa, halimbawa pag mag-alisan ang mga investors dahil sa kaguluhan ng kanyang rebelyon di ba tiyak maraming mawawalan ng trabaho at magugutom? Binoto siya upang maging senador at gumawa ng mga batas para sa kabutihan ng bayan hindi para mag-aklas. Mandaraya siya!!!
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i agree……
mas kawawa ang mga naloko at nabola niyang sundalo sumama sa manila pen…..
mga magdalo rin, kapatid sa servisyo, ipinahamak niya, paano na kakain ang mga umaasa sa mga sundalong ito……..
wala siyang pakialam sa buhay ng iba basta maisulong lang niya ang kanyang sariling interest………
December 4th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
i read in one of the columns in inquirer, the reasons why trillanes’ caper failed:
1. the weather was bad…it was raining. the previous 2 edsas were held february, no rains. pinoys hate to be wet from rain.
2. it was held nearing a weekend, when people are busy preparing for long vacation.
3. nov. dec. are bonus months. people are busy shopping, etc. since they have money from remittance or from bonuses.
lessons….learn from history, have a plan and execute it. and if need be, DIE FOR YOUR CAUSE!
akala ko ba may mpa public policy planning from up yung idol nyo? ngek! try again!
December 4th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
as i wrote previously, based on the singapore experience, the govt pays their officials handsomely and give them more than adequate benefits, hence they only worry about doing their best in their job, nothing else. i agree w/ the above when he said there is no justification for stealing if your salary is a pittance….correct. so the next best thing you can do is take away the opportunity for corruption, w/c is very low pay. why let good people shy away from serving the govt.? do you like incompetents only to serve our country?
eureka has a point….as you have a point.
i can see both your points though.
jojo…you are funny
clipmaster…oo nga. meron ditong blogger na walang ethics. walang galang.
seriously, i agree w/ most of what you write. keep writing…
tonio, republika, bopols, keep on writing. expect a coming soon movie “trillanes, mahilig mag-Pen-desaraPen ”
to jossher…..suggest to manolo and john, to have a separate blog re your issue…whether trillanes staged a mutiny, revolt, revolution, coup, o nag-kape lang, whatever! we also read the rpc, constitution and all, ok? my family has lawyers too to help me. but it all depends on who is reading and interpreting it!
lahat marunong eh!
to whom it may concern…ok, i won’t mind the spelling, like you said “after all no one perfect” :-)) sige na nga!
December 4th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Let’s start joining our hands to stop this word war, lets love peacemaker and hate warfreak.
Pray.
Study hard.
Do our job very well.
December 4th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Instead of blaming the best president in our country so far why not help him, help our family, help ourselves, pray for them, pray and help for the poor, study hard, work hard.
Of course make peace and make love.
Stop hate, stop war.
December 4th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
– pinapasabi ni “kuya” cj, thank you ‘abbygail’… for saying that he ‘thinks’ daw…
well anyway, at first, this person was watching TV. and this person thought that something out of the ordinary will ensue. things like seeng shots fly, sparks ignite, witnessing HE grenades crackle through the quiet Makati streets, flashbangs polluting the lighted atmosphere.
this person was wrong.
it would have been nice to see real CounterStrike on TV, given commonly the war-freaks some Filipinos are.
then parents can say ‘o anak, yan ang sinasabi ko na tungkol sa CS. mag-DOTA ka na lang, dahil hindi pa nagagawa ito sa totoong buhay eh. at least, not now.’
wala pa namang ‘first blood’ dito.
forgive my useless post.
(and I hope Brando De Leon is still alive and doing well)
December 4th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
not a fan of GMA..pro npakabulok ang opposition..trillianes is the most rotten.. EGOISTIC..ang bastos,kita nyo ba paano sila pwersahang pumasok sa hotel..and what about mayor binay?binaboy na nman ung syudad mo!!
December 4th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
yahooooooooooooooooo eto na naman….eeksena na naman ang mga IMBESTIGADOR!!!!!! hahahaha patawa talaga tong senado…mag-iimbestiga na naamn sila….ILEGAL DAW ANG CURFEW!!!! PERO TEKA, SINO ANG PUMIRMA SA RESOLUTION???? MGA OPPOSITION!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
nakakatawa, kung meron mang nagreklamo sa curfew…yun ay mga opposition lang…yung mga mamayan na ayaw ng manggulo…at nagtatrabaho sa gabi…WALANG REKLAMO!!!!!! DAHIL WALA NAMAN NEGATIVE EFFECT!!!!! MAGPAKITA KA LANG NG ID OK KA NA!!!!!
Hay….ang opposition nga naman….mahirap talaga pag malaki pangangailangan ng politiko…lahat na lang kakainin…PATI EBAK KAKAININ SIGURADO NG MGA TO hahahahahaha
TAPOS SUSUBO SA MGA SUMUSUPORTA SA KANILA…LAMON NAMAN NG EBAK ANG MGA SUPORTERS BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
December 4th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Chris,
Majority of the filipino people cares about the Philippines so much…we love our country so dearly…THATS THE REASON WHY NOBODY SUPPORTED TRILLANES AND HIS COHORTS ANYMORE…the Opposition has been claiming to have majority of the filipino people SUPPORTS THEM…WHAT MAJORITY ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT??? ANG IBIG NILANG SABIHIN MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN MANILA NA BINABAYARAN NILA PARA MAGRALLY!!!!
The truth is…THE FILIPINO PEOPLE NO LONGER BELIEVES THAT ANYONE IN THE OPPOSITION CAN LEAD OUR COUNTRY BETTER…YES, GMA IS NOT THE BEST PRESIDENT…SHE HAS STUPID ADVISERS WITH HER…SHE HAS LOTS OF SHORTCOMINGS….HOWEVER, IF WE FOCUS OUR ATTENTION TO THE OPPOSITION….WALA KA DIN MAPILI..MAS MALALA PA SILANG LAHAT!!!!
WE LOVE OUR COUNRTY SO MUCH…THAT WE CHOSE AND STILL CHOOSE TO WORK AND PAY OUR TAXES RELIGIOUSLY..KAHIT NA KARAMIHAN NITO AY KINUKURAKOT NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO NATIN….
MASYADO LANG MAINGAY ANG OPPOSITION KAYA KALA MO MALAKAS ANG PWERSA NILA…PERO TULAD NG ISANG ILOG….KAPAG MAINGAY…ITO AY MABABAW…KAMING NASA MAJORITY NA AYAW NA NG GULO…AT AYAW NG BUMAGSAK PA ULI ANG ECONOMIYA NG PILIPINAS…DITO NA LANG KAMI SA TAHIMIK…DITO NA LANG KAMI SA BLOGSITE MAGIINGAY…HINDI PA MAINIT, WALANG ALIKABOK…NAKAUPO KA LANG AT AIRCON PA HEHEHEHE AT PINAKA IMPORTANTE…HINDI NAAPEKTUHAN ANG ECONOMIYA…
December 4th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Ginoong Trillanes, kung totoong SERYOSO po kayo na mapaunlad ang ating bayan, sana po ay gumawa kayo ng solusyon imbes na maging bahagi sa mga problema.
Alam ko pong kayo ay isang sundalo at kayo ay sanay sa dahas at gulo. Ngunit hindi po solusyon ang dahas. Ang dahas ay nagbubunga ng galit. At ang galit ay nagbubunga din ng dahas. Ito ay magiging isang gulong, paulit-ulit.
Kung talagang MAHAL po ninyo ang mga Pilipino, huwag na po ninyong dagdagan ang kanilang problema.
Ang ginawa po ninyo kahapon ay nakapagdulot ng hindi maganda sa mga ORDINARYONG TAO. Please…huwag po ninyong idamay ang mga ordinaryong tao na walang ibang hangad kundi ang maghanap-buhay. Kung inyo pong pag-ninilay-nilayan ang inyong mga ginagawa, lalo lamang po ninyong pinapapangit ang imahe ng ating bayan.
Kung ano mang kaginha-wa-an ang tinatamasa nga bansa ngayon, sa aminin mo man at sa hindi, NAKIKINABANG ka rin, pati na ang inyong pamilya.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
To John and Manolo,
Like what others are saying..some of the blogs have been deleted or not posted…
However, I think this is not the time to filter the blogs…
media (and I believe you both are members) has always been bragging about freedom of speech…konting panggigipit sa media…sigaw agad ng freedom of speech..kahit unjustifiable actions nila..freedom of speech pa din..kahit nakakasira sila sa economiya..freedom of specch pa din…kahit pinoprotektahan nila ang mga tangang katulad ni trillanes at opposition…freedom of speech pa din…
ang tanong….asan ang freedom of speech sa blog site na to? bakit nafilter ang ibang posts?
Di ba ayaw nyo ng ganun?
Wag mong sabihin HIPOCRITO din ang media…
Well I personally believe na isa ang media sa nakakasira ng economiya ng pilipinas….PARANG ASO NA AYAW MAGPATALI…AT PAG PINAKAWALAN MO NAMAN, LAHAT KINAKAGAT…WALANG PAKIALAM…DAHIL SA ISIP NILA..MERONG FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!
O baka naman…pansariling interes din lang…walang pinagiba sa mga politiko.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
mar roxas na lng sa 2010.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
HAY NAKU..KAHIT ANO PA ANG SABIHIN NATIN DITO TUNGKOL SA MGA IDOL NG MGA OPPOSITION…WALA PA DIN MANGYAYARI…KASI SARADO UTAK NG MGA YAN…BOBO ANG MGA YAN…NAGPAPANGAP NA MAGALING PERO BOBO PALA..DI MARUNONG MAGISIP….WALA NG IBANG ALAM GAWIN KUNDI MAGRALLY, MANGGULO PARA BUMAGSAK ANG ECONOMIYA NG PILIPINAS!!!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
Sorry for the third consecutive post but I was catching up on all that was said previously.
“Apparently, you were absent when they taught the Constitution in Social Studies and Philippine History at your school:
“Sec. 1. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law…”; “Sec. 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, …against unreasonable searches and seizures of whatever nature and for any purpose shall be inviolable, and no…warrant of arrest shall issue except upon probable cause to be determined personally by the judge…”
“Sec. 4. No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances.”
Why thank you for the civics and constitutional law lesson Jossher but if you use a little more common sense you will realize that Trillanes and Lim were ESCAPED FUGITIVES. They do not need to be served arrest warrants. Furthermore they were committing a crime in inflagrante delicto. Sedition comes to mind but if you want nitty gritty escaping from arrest, possession of firearms, trespassing, and creating a public disturbance can easily be thrown in, maybe even economic sabotage. Are you seriously going to question the illegality of Trillanes and Company’s actions???
As for the media arrests it strikes me that they were subject to due process of law, any searches and seizures considering the cirumstances were reasonable, and they were right smack dab in the middle of a crime scene. Media who were outside were not detained. Moreover, they were released pretty quickly and are free to protest their detention.
I don’t see the problem.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
To Jossher:
One reason why some government officials/politicians steal is because of the fact that during election time they spent a lot of money. So, after the election and when they assumed to their respective position there is a great tendency that they will commit graft and corruption to recover their big expenses.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
sa yo BKK at sa iba pang mga TANGA!!! Binarikadahan agad ang Manila Pen ng sandamakmak na pulis at sundalo. so saan dadaan ang mga supporter. nanginginig mga tumbong nila, wla 50 tao run eh me mga tangke pa sila pinadala alam nila dadami agad tao run pag pinatagal pa DAHIL ginawa na nila yan kay ERAP kaya takot sila sa multo nila. Ngunit ang bottom line dito lalong naghirap ang pilipino sa pamumuno ni gloria 7 years na! Asan??? di na ko mkapag intay, gawan na ito dapat ng aksiyon.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
Jossher as long as you and people like you keep sticking your heads in the sand as to the root causes of the problem by simply blaming politicians for their lack of morality, expect this country to continue going nowhere. When everyone learns to get over it and can talk about solutions like increasing the budget to fight corruption, campaign finance reform, or finding ways to make government less hypocritical and more professional maybe we can start going somewhere. As it is most political talk in this country is just noise.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Jossher you can continue playing the idealism card. We’ve been playing it for a long long time now. But look at the results. They’re pathetic. There is not a single administration, certainly not in recent years, that I can think of that has not been accused of massive corruption. Considering the abysmal results therefore I think it’s time for a different way of looking at the problem. Using more pragmatism and common sense and less hypocritical idealism I think there are some pretty obvious solutions that we can try. We are ostensibly a capitalist meritocracy but when you really analyze government one comes up with the feeling we have fused together the worst bits of feudalism, capitalism, and communism. Do our best and brightest go into government? No. Are our government officials rewarded for providing good service? No. Are people being motivated to do a good job? No. What Philippine society expects of people in government is that they should be happy to do their job “for the good of the country”. Such noble sentiments. If only there was reason to believe that that alone can produce results. Unfortunately if you are a student of politics you’d be aware of another system of government based on such idealistic assumptions of giving all that you can but getting back only what you need: communism. Look where that went. In the real world it was a failure. Given this, why are we expecting that this communist way of thinking we have adopted all these years is going to produce good government? Not surprisingly it hasn’t.
By the way, you think GMA is a bad president? You are free to disagree with me. I can even understand why you might. But please consider first who you would consider a good president. Next consider how much damage an incompetent leader can inflict on a country. My own view is that this country had been extremely lucky to have her as president. If you look at all the possible leading candidates of the past you couldn’t find a more qualified individual for the job. Our main problem is economic; she is an economist. She was raised in Malacanang as the daughter of a president and also been in the cabinet and the legislature. She was experienced and not in awe of the Office and not a duck out of water or headless chicken going into it. Has she been dictatorial? I don’t think so. In fact if anything she has been a little soft considering the rowdy opposition to her. Looking at her performance since then she has come off as competent the way we expected her to. I put great store in competence. Despite Estrada’s corruption, I do not see that as costing this country as much as his complete and utter incompetence.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
“dayuhan kasi ang kalaban ni bonifacio noon, tignan mo kinokondina nating lahat kapag may dayuhang nangaapi ng pinoy……….”
I think its even worse if our oppressors are our own people. At least if we were against foreign invaders that is understandable and the lines are clear.
What if our oppressors are our own government? Isn’t that ironic. The institutiuon that was built to protect the people is the one oppressing them. That is more difficult to understand or to justify.
But it does not also justify people to keep quiet and to be indifferent to what’s happening. But apparently, MOST Filipinos are resilient and tolerant to a fault. If they were not, Marcos would not have ruled us (illegally) for 20 years.
In the Philippines, I notice that people who speak out become the targets of people who want to get along…the latter believes in STABILITY and status quo = at ALL COSTS. If that’s the case, might as well have a totalitarian regime and just throw away our freedoms in the garbage can.
I think as Filipinos, we should be given an opportunity to speak their minds and to make our leaders ACCOUNTABLE. Edmund Burke got it right when he wrote: “All that it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” Isn’t it time to do something? If not for ourselves, how about our children and their future?
December 4th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
Chris
To Salina:
My point is that my mind set is for my family alone. I WORK FOR MY FAMILY, so they can live and be happy living in our god-forsaken country. anyways, I have to say I’m the one who’s confused with your english/grammar, and I’m not critizing it by the way. magtagalog na lang tayo or bisaya. kasabot ka bisaya?peace!
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OO NAMAN. I CAN SPEAK VISAYA BUT MY VISAYA IT JUST AS BAD AS MY ENGLISH. SORRY, IF YOU CAN’T UNDERSTAND ME I SPEAK SLANG ENGLISH. PEACE DIN! AND MERRY XMAS!
December 4th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Jossher
“Solve the economics and the morals will follow.” ??? The good book has an answer to this, “…what does it profit a man to gain the whole world (becomes economically prosperous) yet loses his soul? (morals)” Mark 8:36.
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THE PEOPLE WHO IS SQUATTING IN MALACANYANG DON’T HAVE NONE OF IT.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Jossher
“GMA is a good president believe it or not.”
Apparently, your standards for a President of a democratic country are very low.
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GOOD? OH, REALLY. YES, SHE’S VERY GOOD ON ROBBING THE GOV’T. COFFER. AMEN:
December 4th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
Jossher
“I hear they expect their politicians to be bright honest and hardworking rendering selfless service — with the unsaid assumption they’ll be paid the basic government wage which we should all know is a pittance.”
No one is forcing public officials to go into public service. If they don’t like their salary which is a “pittance.” Then they can work someplace else. A low salary is NOT AN EXCUSE TO STEAL AND VIOLATE THE LAW. That is why its called, “public service” and NOT a commercial enterprise. Get it? When a public official takes his or her oath, he makes a contract with the people that he or she will “uphold the Constitution and obey its laws.” The Constitution does not guarantee high salaries NOR PERKS for public officials. If you want perks work for private corporations. Don’t work in the government. Note that the Constitution says that, “a public office is a PUBLIC TRUST.” It is a position which must be protected from abuse because it is bestowed to the public official “IN TRUST” for the people. The fact that you are paid a lowly government salary is NO EXCUSE to screw the people out of their hard earned tax money and break that trust.
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AMEN, AMEN, AMEN,. TO THAT.
December 4th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
Iyong Magdalo na grupo ni Trillanes, iyan ba ay Magdalo ng Katipunan o Magdalo ng Makati-punan?
Pambihirang buhay ito. Lumalabas tuloy na ang mga Filipino ay parang wala sa wastong pag-iisip. Binabasa ko iyong mga comments ng pro-Trillanes at kitang-kita na wala sa katuwiran. Isip bobo at mga ungas lamang ang magsasabing tama ang ginawa nitong irresponsibleng at immature na Trillanes. He totally disrespected the three branches of the Philippine government. He does not deserve to be a senator and soldier. He does not deserve the respect of law-abiding Filipinos, especially members of the Armed Forces of the Philippines. Respeto lamang ng mga may isip bobo at katangahan ang nababagay sa kaniya.
Magsamasama na lang kayong sa kangkungan o sa kulungan. At least mayroon na kayong sariling senator, vice-president at mga pari at bishop na wala ding wastong pag-iisip at katuwiran.
Pambihirang patis nga naman, oo. Grrrrrrr
December 4th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
“hindi na pwedeng kandidato si gma sa 2010………….”
Technically yes. But if you believe that she will relinquish power readily, then you are a bit naive. They did not pass the anti-terror law against the terrorists mind you. Who would stop GMA if she declares Martial Law now and cancel the 2010 elections like what Marcos did in 1972 and place all her enemies in jail?
The problem with some people is that they are stuck with personalities….GMA, Erap, Trillanes….etc. Don’t look at people, they will surely fail you. Instead look at principles: right and wrong, honesty, justice, equality, integrity, the law, good government, etc. and guage people by those standards. GMA is not the entire Philippine Government, she is only the President, one of 3 co-equal branches. People give her credit for more than what she is worth. If the President is not being checked, look to Congress and the Courts…well maybe just the courts (as 34 other brown nosing Congressmen just left with her on a junket). That is what the system of checks and balances all about. Apparently, our other 2 branches of government arent’ working as it should especially Congress. Instead of checking the President, they conspire with her to screw the people. Might as well lump them in one branch and revert to the Parliamentary system. At least we can save money that way.
December 4th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
tonio,
Ang problema sa katulad mo tonio ay alam mo nang nakakapit tuko ang mga sakim eh dumidikit ka pa rin. Puro pagtatakip. Sabagay, masarap maambunan ng Intelligence Fund ano.
Sino ang umaasa sa gubyerno? Siguro ang mga nakikinabang sa Pinoy Big Briber. At sino nga ba ang pinakamakapangyarihan sa palasyo na maaring magpamudmod ng P 500,000? Alangan namang ikaw. Utusan kang magpamudmod pwede, pero hindi ikaw ang gagawa ng desisyong yan.
Yung “trickle down effect” kuno sa ekonomiya ilang taon nang ginagawang dahilan kung bakit maski mataas kuno ang GDP eh di pa rin nararamdaman ng middle at lower class. Yung “trickle down”, walang “effect”. Ang ekonomiya natin, nakabase sa “trickle up effect”, kung sino ang nasa itaas, malakas humigop at nasa poder, sila ang yumayaman. Diyan napupunta ang iyong economic growth mo.
Kung gusto mong tumaas ang ekonomiya ng patas, tanggalin ang kurapsyon at katiwalian.
Anong gagawin mo kung nagkalat ang kurakot sa pamahalaan, pabayaan mo na lang? What a jerk.
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Sa ibang dako naman, lumalabas ang pagkadiktador ng pulis na dumepensa sa Pinoy Big Briber:
Excerpt from article “ABS-CBN tapes sought” at: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view_article.php?article_id=104693
…“You are commanded to appear before the office of the Southern Metro Manila Criminal Investigation and Detection Team … on Dec. 5, 2007 at 10 o’clock in the morning and bring with you a DVD copy of raw video footage [of the] March,” PNP Director Edgardo Doromal said in his order to Maria Ressa, head of the ABS-CBN news and current affairs department.
“FAIL NOT, UNDER THE PENALTY OF LAW,” the order said in bold letters…
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Talagang Macacapal
December 4th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
clipmaster: “Raising arms against the government” requires an intent to overthrow the government. If Triallanes’ “guards” (actually, the AFP was negligent in posting the guards) were raising arms against the government, they would have used it. Even if they did not, they would still have to carry their arms to Manila Pen. Why would they leave it and let someone use it and cause harm?
“bakit yung ibang opposition pag nagrally walang ‘guards’ na nakauniporme at armado ng armlalite…………”
Apparently you forgot about the 1986 EDSA Revolution “opposition rally.” Then Sec. of Defense Enrile, AFP Vice Cheif of Staff Fidel Ramos, then Col. Gringo Honasan, et. all were also armed with people rallying with them. If that did not happen, the Philippines will still be under Marcos’ martial law.
“maski wala ako alam sa criminal law, hindi naman siguro ako ganoong kabobo na maniwalang isang peacefull assembly lang ang ginawa nila…………” Were Trillanes’ guards using their M-16’s against anyone? Were their any violence before the military forced their way into Manila Pen using a tank and started arresting people and shooting at Triallanes’ group? Who broke the peace? One does not need knowledge of criminal law to know who caused the violence. Criminal intent can be inferred from actions. It would have been different if the Triallanes’ group declared, “We are taking hostages and occupying Manila Pen by force.” Did they do that? No, they were only there to make a public statement or press conference. Is making a public announcement against the law know? Which country are we talking about again?
December 4th, 2007 at 1:55 pm
If your argument is to allow or tolerate government officials to steal because “their salaries are a pittance,” then there is no justification to jail the snatchers, bank robbers, holduppers, drug dealers and and akyat bahay criminals because they too need the money. Sorry, I do not see the difference between government officials who engage in graft with the common criminals. Both commit crimes. Come to think of it, corrupt government officials steal more money than all bank robbers in Philippine history combined. Since the time of Marcos….think of all the Billions of dollars which could have been used to pay all our foreign debt and to improve the economy. It is said that out of every peso that goes into government coffers, only .30 cents are actually spent on basic public services and cost of governance. The money that the Philippine treasury does not have because of corruption - the people do not have in the form of public services, i.e. flood control infrastructures, medicines, books, roads, facilities, etc.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
“I hear they expect their politicians to be bright honest and hardworking rendering selfless service — with the unsaid assumption they’ll be paid the basic government wage which we should all know is a pittance.”
No one is forcing public officials to go into public service. If they don’t like their salary which is a “pittance.” Then they can work someplace else. A low salary is NOT AN EXCUSE TO STEAL AND VIOLATE THE LAW. That is why its called, “public service” and NOT a commercial enterprise. Get it? When a public official takes his or her oath, he makes a contract with the people that he or she will “uphold the Constitution and obey its laws.” The Constitution does not guarantee high salaries NOR PERKS for public officials. If you want perks work for private corporations. Don’t work in the government. Note that the Constitution says that, “a public office is a PUBLIC TRUST.” It is a position which must be protected from abuse because it is bestowed to the public official “IN TRUST” for the people. The fact that you are paid a lowly government salary is NO EXCUSE to screw the people out of their hard earned tax money and break that trust.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
“GMA is a good president believe it or not.”
Apparently, your standards for a President of a democratic country are very low.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
“To expect everyone in government to be a saint is unreasonable and stupid.” We are not expecting Philippine officials to be saints. But we expect them to at least follow the law they took an oath to uphold. Especially, laws on human rights and graft and corruption. Come to think of it if they were here in the U.S., most of them would already be in jail.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
bakit yung bang mga lider na gusto nyong ipalit kay gloria eh walang record ng mga katiwalian!? worst pa nga sila. sa administrasyon ni cory aquino ang pinakamahirap na panahon sa buhay ng mga pilipino! kasi mahina sya nagpapagamit sa mga taong nakapaligid sa kanya.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Jossher
If Triallanes et al were really rebelling, they would have engage in actual raising of arms. Videos show they were not even armed (except for their guards). Only lawyers with bereft understanding of criminal law would try to make this one stick.
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di ba fellow magdalo rin yung mga ‘GUARDS’………….
bakit yung ibang opposition pag nagrally walang ‘guards’ na nakauniporme at armado ng armlalite…………
bakit hindi niya pinaiwan na lang ang mga armas nila sa hall of justice……….
kawawa naman yung mga ‘guards’ at yung mga umaasa sa kanila, sino na ngayon ang maghahanap buhay para sa kanila…………
hindi ba naisip ni trillanes ang mga kinabukasan ng kanyang mga ‘guards’ dahil lamang sa kalanguan niya maging leader ng isang junta…………
maski wala ako alam sa criminal law, hindi naman siguro ako ganoong kabobo na maniwalang isang peacefull assembly lang ang ginawa nila…………
hayyyyyy….
my sympathy sa mga nabola at nalokong ‘guards’…………
December 4th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
“The media and their complaints about their freedoms being repressed? Junk. That they chose to stay despite being warned and given the deadline by the authorities is questionable…”???
Apparently, you were absent when they taught the Constitution in Social Studies and Philippine History at your school:
“Sec. 1. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law…”; “Sec. 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, …against unreasonable searches and seizures of whatever nature and for any purpose shall be inviolable, and no…warrant of arrest shall issue except upon probable cause to be determined personally by the judge…”
“Sec. 4. No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances.”
December 4th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Anyways, the issue here is GMA against the fed up people of the Philippines.People did not heed the protesters/mutineers/whatevers’ call because its either: (a) they’re afraid, (b) they’re too much busy trying to make a living, (c) no politician/wealthy human being’s giving out money for them to go and support them. As I’ve said, nobody cares about the Philippines anymore. Kanya kanyang kuha na ng salbabida sa nalulunod na bangka.
December 4th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
tigilan nyo na yang mga katarantaduhan nyong yan………ang medya lalo na channel 2 ano ba talaga gusto nyong mangyari sa bayan natin? palibhasa pansariling interis lang ang iniisip nyo. mga sundalong gongong wag nyo ng idamay ang taong bayan sa mga kalokohan nyo. hinde bobo ang pinoy!
December 4th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
If it’s economic not morality which is the problem, then Rome (which was the number one country economically during its time) would not have fallen and would still here. But because of MORAL DECAY….it fell. In fact, lack of morals caused Lucifer, Hitler, Idi Amin, Marcos and countless others to fall.
December 4th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
To Salina:
My point is that my mind set is for my family alone. I WORK FOR MY FAMILY, so they can live and be happy living in our god-forsaken country. anyways, I have to say I’m the one who’s confused with your english/grammar, and I’m not critizing it by the way. magtagalog na lang tayo or bisaya. kasabot ka bisaya?peace!
December 4th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
“Solve the economics and the morals will follow.” ??? The good book has an answer to this, “…what does it profit a man to gain the whole world (becomes economically prosperous) yet loses his soul? (morals)” Mark 8:36.
December 4th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
mikerobes
i bet the foregoing were the disgusts shown by people on Andres Bonifacio who fought violently and fiercely using arms and sacrifing lives against the ruling power…. until he suceeded. Now he’s a hero. It’s sad that the epidemic described by Jose Rizal has poisoned the mind of larger number of people who never bother to ponder, at the very least, why these are happening.
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dayuhan kasi ang kalaban ni bonifacio noon, tignan mo kinokondina nating lahat kapag may dayuhang nangaapi ng pinoy……….
majority sa atin ay sawa na sa ating systema, galit galit sa mga nangyayari, kailangan lang ng magtritriger para ilabas ang saloobin, pero palagay ko hindi si trillanes ang magtritriger sa mga pinoy………
kailangan natin ang isang taong may karisma, integridad at ginagalang. meron kaya ba tayong makabagong bayani makikita tulad ni bonifacio at rizal……….
for our childrens’ sake, sana meron pa………..
December 4th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
Morals a copout? No. It is a very concrete standard everyman should aspire to live by. It’s not a “vacuous platitude” as what someone says. Morality is what separates us from animals. It’s what separates criminals from law abiding citizens. It’s what separates true inspiring leaders from corrupt and inept officials. Cicero, the Roman statesman, said: “Be a pattern to others, and then all will go well; for as the whole city is infected by the licentious passions and vices of great men, so it is likewise reformed by their moderation.” Morality is nothing more than having a code of ethics to follow - a sense of right and wrong and the resolve to follow that belief. If one cannot follow a personal code, how is he to follow the law? If he cannot follow his own principles, how do you expect him to follow principles laid down by the state? Problem is economic? Economic decline of the Philippines (and the world) is just a symptom of lack of morality of our leaders. If our leaders were moral persons, they would love their country and their people and NOT STEAL FROM THEM. If our leaders have morals, government money would be spent on the basic needs instead of mansions, trips, cars for those in power. We need morals alright. And we need LOTS OF IT NOW! It’s not money (a neutral thing) that is the root of all evil. It’s the LOVE OF MONEY (a moral problem…not an economic one) that is the root of all evil.
Even God said, “if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways (again…a moral problem), then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” 2 Chronicles 7:14.
December 4th, 2007 at 11:59 am
To kakosa, salina et. al:
Kong totoong ayaw mong sumuporta sa mga sinungaling at mandaraya eh bakit ka susuporta kay Trillanes? Sabi ni Trillanes para sa taongbayan ang kanyang ginawa, halimbawa pag mag-alisan ang mga investors dahil sa kaguluhan ng kanyang rebelyon di ba tiyak maraming mawawalan ng trabaho at magugutom? Binoto siya upang maging senador at gumawa ng mga batas para sa kabutihan ng bayan hindi para mag-aklas. Mandaraya siya!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 11:58 am
igorot_23
th senator just called for GMA’s resignation. so did Mrs Aquino, and some bishops before,and some of her cabinet members before, and heaps of ordinary Juan Dela Cruz’s marching down the streets every now and then. why single out Trllanes for rebellion?
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simpleng simple lang po………..
yung iba peacefull means, hindi nakakamatay ang mga marcha, demonstration at mga sigaw……….
si trillanes pag gumalaw, lagi may kasamang may baril at bomba………
si ninoy ng bumalik sa pinas, journalist ang kasama, siya ang sukatan ng tunay na matapang , maski buhay niya ang naging kapalit……………
pero ganoon pa man, nagantay pa tayo ng 3 taon para mafulfill ang kanyang mga kataga ‘THE FILIPINO IS WORTH DYING FOR’…….
sumalangit nawa ang kanyang kaluluwa………….
December 4th, 2007 at 11:43 am
diego
please concentrate on the main topic TRILLANES vs GMA - i’ll bet my b**ls
Trillanes will win hands down against GMS in a fair and honest election.
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hindi na pwedeng kandidato si gma sa 2010………….
i’ll bet everything na hindi mananalo si trillanes sa 2010, ang daming yatang mga ganid at swapang na gustong maging presidente, both from the admin and opposition…………
tignan mo, si gonggona na lang kasama niya sa manila pen, playing safe na mga aspirants, ano bale eh kung magtagumpay si trillanes, paano na ang kanilang ambisyon……….
hahayaan na lang nila makulong at mabulok si trillanes, one less opponent, di ba…………
December 4th, 2007 at 11:08 am
th senator just called for GMA’s resignation. so did Mrs Aquino, and some bishops before,and some of her cabinet members before, and heaps of ordinary Juan Dela Cruz’s marching down the streets every now and then. why single out Trllanes for rebellion?
December 4th, 2007 at 10:52 am
Mutiny? There’s no such thing as mutiny on land under the RPC. It’s only committed on the high seas. Coup? Reading the RPC, coup de etat is committed by swift attack accompanied by violence, intimidation, threat, strategy or stealth, directed against duly constituted authorities of the Republic of the Philippines, or any military camp or installation, communications networks, public utilities or other facilities needed for the exercise and continued possession of power, singly or simultaneously carried out anywhere in the Philippines by any person or persons, belonging to the military or police or holding any public office or employment, with or without civilian support or participation, for the purpose of seizing or diminishing state power.”
Is Manila Pen a government installation? No, so there was no coup to speak off. The lesson is before we use legal terms like “mutiny,” “rebellion” or “coup” look it up first in the law. It’s just a mouseclick away.
December 4th, 2007 at 10:42 am
Salina says: “Its about time somebody doing something to kick Gloria Arroyo, From her stolen power. I hope and pray the magdalo’s succeeded on their fight against the corrupt regime of Gloria Arroyo! Its time to unite and fight for what is right. Mabuhay tayong lahat.”
Sa pananalita mo palang, kahit na ang pagpapatalsik sa gobyernong inakala mong di magaling, ay iaasa mo pa sa iba.
Sino nga ba ang presidenteng naupo sa Malakanyang ang di nakatulong sa pag-unlad ng bansang ito? Para sa mga katulad mo at sa idolo mong si Trillanes… WALA! Sige nga at gawin mong presidente ‘yang idolo mo o yung mga alipores n’ya at tingnan natin kung paano malugmok ang bayan sa kahirapan.
Kung kailan pa bumuti ang kalagayang pang-ekonomiya ng bansa ay tsaka pa umeksena ulit si Trillanes. Ito ba ang sinasabing tulong n’ya para sa bayan? Ang sirain ang imahen ng bansa at pababain ang umuunlad nang ekonomiya?
Dapat mag-isip tayo ng long-term development. Konting tiis muna ngayon, dahil ang kaunlaran ay di naman nakakamit sa madaling panahon.
December 4th, 2007 at 10:42 am
I am at a loss on how the government will prosecute Trillanes, Guingona, et. al for rebellion. Article 134 of the RPC defines Rebellion as, “committed by rising publicly and taking arms against the Government for the purpose of removing from the allegiance to said Government or its laws, the territory of the Republic of the Philippines or any part thereof, of any body of land, naval or other armed forces, or depriving the Chief Executive or the Legislature, wholly or partially, of any of their powers or prerogatives.”
Even assuming they “rose publicly,” did they take arms against the government? I do not think holing up in a hotel counts as “taking arms against the government.” Taking arms against the government involves actually waging war against the government. At most, Triallanes and his co-accused are guitly of direct contempt of court. They were merely protesting publicly against GMA which is still Constitutional under the Philippine Constitution as I looked the last time. Did they deprive the GMA of any of her powers or prerogatives? I don’t think so. She was fully exercising executive function at that time. If Triallanes et al were really rebelling, they would have engage in actual raising of arms. Videos show they were not even armed (except for their guards). Only lawyers with bereft understanding of criminal law would try to make this one stick.
December 4th, 2007 at 10:39 am
Kabayan
Salina
Sa palagay niyo ba eh meron na kayong napatalsik na corrupt sa gobyerno natin?
Sa palagay niyo ba sa ginagawa niyo na ayan ay nakakatulong sa mamamayan? Eh sa tingin ko puro lng kayo dada na wala naman naitutulong sa problema..
Sa palagay niyo ba na mga anti GMA at pro GMA yang ginagawa niyo may maisusulong na pagbabago sa bayan? Eh puro lng kayo salita.. wala naman naisa suggest kung papano malutas ang problema ng mga maralitang tulad ko.
Sa totoo lng puro kayo mga sinungaling sa mga pinagsasabi niyo… sa palagay ko kayo ay mga corrupt din tulad ng mga iniidolo niyo… Nagmamagaling kayo na kung ano ano ang mga sinasabi eh hangang dyan lng naman kayo.. may naitulong ka na ba sa bayan natin?
Alam niyo yang pinaggagawa niyo dinadaan lng sa init ng ulo… kung meron masabi ang isang kampo na kontra sa iniidolo niyo, nag re-react kayo agad… na wala naman sa ayos… Kayo bay napapakain niyo ng maayos ang pamilya niyo? If so, then thats good.. and if not, tumigil na kayo sa mga pinaggagawa niyo.. mag concentrate na lng kayo sa trabaho niyo kung meron at kung wala kayong trabaho, eh maghanap naman kayo para merom kayo maipakain sa mga pamilya niyo.. or wait niyo na lng ang pabuya na manggagaling sa mga iniidolo niyo… dahil kayo sa tingin ko ay mga corrupt din…
December 4th, 2007 at 10:35 am
bakit ba pinagpipilitan ng kampo ni trillanes na peacefull assembly lang ginawa nila………
peacefull ba yong may mga kasama silang may baril at armalite, binasag nila pintuan para makapasok sa manila pen………
ewan ko kung ano pakahulugan nila…….
may ibang paraan naman, mag hunger strike sila tulad ng ginagawa ng ating magigiting na magsasaka…….
ayaw kasi nila mahirapan ang kanilang sarili, gusto lagi ginhawa kaya lagi sa hotel………
kung ayaw nila madamay ang civilian, sana hinayaan nilang makalabas……….
kung talagang handa silang mamatay, sana sa isang open field sila nagpunta, may park yata doon sa tapat ng manila pen at doon ipakita ang tapang nila…….
baka heroes na sila ngayon………
December 4th, 2007 at 10:17 am
i bet the foregoing were the disgusts shown by people on Andres Bonifacio who fought violently and fiercely using arms and sacrifing lives against the ruling power…. until he suceeded. Now he’s a hero. It’s sad that the epidemic described by Jose Rizal has poisoned the mind of larger number of people who never bother to ponder, at the very least, why these are happening.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:56 am
Trinidad Ramos
It’s not only academic credentials, its also about honesty, morality and ethics.
salina
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PINOY’S! WALA NIYA. KONG MAYROON MAN, YOU CAN’T EVEN COUNT THEM.
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huwag mo accusahan lahat ng pinoy……..
hindi lang ikaw ang anak ng Diyos…….
majority ng pinoy ay honest, may moral at may ethics, ewan ko ikaw………..
kami nga simpleng empleyado nagbabayad ng tax, eh ikaw ano, pinagmamalaki mo pang hindi ka nagbabayad, yan ang honesty para sa iyo………
hay naku, ang galing mo, yan ba ang moralidad na alam mo, ipaglandakan ang pagkakamali at ipagmalaki pa…………
ethical ba na all caps ngayon ang ginagamit mo sa blog na ito, PIKON ka na ba………….
December 4th, 2007 at 9:51 am
Redz
Bakit sa ibang mga online computer di naka-post comment ko…sincere kaya talaga blog na ‘to sa mga mambabasa n’ya?
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WELL, MAYBE ITS BEEN DELETED. SOME OF MY POSTING ITS BEEN DELETE ALSO ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON’T LIKE WHAT YOU POST. AND MAYBE THIS IS THE GOV’T SITE THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE FILIPINO PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THE FAKE PRESIDENT OF CEBU.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:41 am
salina
I NEVER PAY TAXES IN THE PHILIPPINES. YES! I’M DOING MY PART. SALINA
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ang lakas mong mag reklamo eh wala palang pakinibang ang ating inang bayan sa iyo………..
may isang singko duling wala nakuha sa iyo para ipasweldo sa ating magigiting na sundalo na handang mamatay dahil sa atin……….
kung alam lang ng idol mong si trillanes at si erap baka pinakulong ka pa nila……
DO YOUR SHARE PARA HINDI NAHIHIRAP ANG PINAS……..
PWE……..
December 4th, 2007 at 9:17 am
Kabayan, ang problem sa mga katulad mo ay puro idelohiya, halos lahat nang tao na dumidepensa kay GMA ay mali. You are not an open minded person, this is democracy and respect other people’s opinion if you must do not insert you opinion on others. This is democracy right? Can you justify your PinoyBigBriber? Do not point it to GMA, point it to whoever is in power and generalize it, all past president’s did that. And give me a president who has revolutionized our economy. You people just do not have that patience, once we can attain a GDP growth of 12% as almost each progressing nation does, we can try to eradicate poverty. Even the 1st world nations has Poverty problems. Puro kasi kayo asa nang asa sa gobyerno and what do are you doing? Rally in the streets? What an ass.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:15 am
I am learning a lot from this blog. And thank you for the intelligent and wonderful insights of Abbygail, Eureka and Ian Velasco.
I am also learning a lot on “what not to do” in posting my comments. Thank you Salina.
One of the traits of a good fighter is when you are with your troops in the batllefield.
Salina, the battlefield is here in the Philippines and not in California.
I hope the market will correct this morning coz I panicked last Thursday because of the adventure of Sen Trillanes. I sold all my MWC at 17.00 (50%) and 16.75 (50%) and sold my ALI at 15.75. Yesterday, I thought both shares will go down so I posted a buy order at 15.25 for ALI and 16.25 for MWC. Not successful. ALI even went up to 15.75 from 15.25. MWC remain unchanged.
Hey, to all pse fanatics there. what is the target price for MWC and ALI? Do you recommend any other stocks?
December 4th, 2007 at 8:55 am
Chris
oh yeah..before I forget, we OFWs are only working our butts for our family. NOT FOR THE GOVERNMENT and not for any of you people who just party their arse all night and never care about the Philippines!…peace!
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CHRISTO: I REALLY DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU’RE SAYING. I KNOW FOR THE FACT THAT YOU’RE NOT WORKING FOR ANYBODY, BUT REST ASSURE THAT YOU’RE ONE OF THE OFW SUPPORTING THE PHILIPPINES ECONOMY WITH YOUR MONEY REMITTANCE SENDING BACK HOME. YOU CAN THANK, GLORIA ARROYO, FOR SELLING EVERY FILIPINO PEOPLE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER. THE DOCTOR BECOME NURSE, SCHOOL TEACHER, BECOME JANITOR, CAREGIVER. BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH JOB AVAILABLE IN THE PHILIPPINES. ONLY FOR A FEW PEOPLE. AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE EDUCATION LIKE THE POOR PEOPLE THEY CAN’T EVEN HAVE JOBS BECAUSE OF LUCK OF EDUCATION. LET ALONE GO OUT THE COUNTRY AND FIND WORK SO THAT THEY TOO, CAN GIVE THEIR FAMILY A BETTER LIFE. LIKE YOURSELF. GLORIA ARROYO, CALL OFW HEROES! ONLY BECAUSE OFW THE ONE UPLIFT THE PHILIPPINES ECONOMY WITHOUT THE OFW, THE PHILIPPINES ECONOMY SURELY GOING DOWN THE GUTTER. AND SHE HAVE THE NERVE TO BRAGG ABOUT HER BOOMING ECONOMY. THE ONLY BOOMING I’VE SEEN IS THEIR BANK ACCOUNT. KEEP GROWING, THAT MY DEAR: WHERE YOUR TAXEPAYER’S MONEY GOES. DON’T BELIEVE ME? CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF. THE TRUTH IS THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:47 am
Kabayan
jun lakay,
Wag kang umiwas sa responsibilidad ng bawat Pilipino na pagsabihan o kung kinakailangan sipain galing sa kanilang pwesto kung may corrupt o sangkot sa katiwalian. Eh kung tulad ng sabi mo na may mga papalit din na kurapt eh di SIPAIN DIN SILA ULI!
Ang bangayan ay laging mananatili hanggang di natatanggal ang mga abusador sa pamahalaan, “So if the corrupt and abusive are not removed Lakay, then you would have to LIVE WITH THE CONSTANT STRUGGLE towards seeking for a better nation!”
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EXACTO.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:43 am
basta ako na n ayaw sa corrupt, sinungaling, mandaraya na govt ay susuporta sa s sinuman lalaban ke gloria. sa ngaun si trillianes lng ang lumalaban dito . bilib nga ako sa kanya kasi patuloy siyang lumalaban kahit nanalo na siyang senator kung makasarili lang siya eh gagayahin na lang niya si gringo at magpapasasa sa ibibigay na suhol ni gloria.
tuloy ang laban…quiters don’t win!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 8:11 am
The illegal act of Trillanes is wrong and can never be justified. As a Senator of the republic he must show example how to follow the laws of our country and not being a lawbreaker. Definitely, Trillanes act is blatant display of arrogance and stupidity and will further destroy the image of our country. To me he is not a good leader but someone who is ambitious, selfish, and hungry at power grab!.
December 4th, 2007 at 7:15 am
Raffy Canlas,
Sabi mo… “Hintayin nyo na lang matapos term ni La Gloria”… Bakit? Akala mo ba na aalis si Gloria sa pamahalaan pagtapos ng 2010?
Kaya nga gustong ipabago ang Constitution eh para tumagal pa siya sa pagkakapit tuko… gustong magtalaga ng Prime minister na ang boboto lamang eh miyembro Parliament (dahil mas madaling suhulan) at walang limitasyon ang termino sa pamamahala.
Kaya nga nagmumudmod ng P 500,000 sa mga opisyales para siya tumagal sa pagkakaupo habang ang mamamayan eh naghihirap. Ni ang mababang ranggong sundalo eh di mabigyan ng sapat sa pagtataas ng kanilang sahod pero ang nakadikit sa kanya na mataas na ranggo eh tuloy ang ligaya. Sarap ng may maraming Intelligence Fund ano.
Kaya nga inilagay ng Garci at Bedol sa posisyon.
Kaya nga di nasintensiyahan si Garci.
Kaya nga puro ex-heneral ang ipinuwesto matataas na posisyon.
Kaya nga nagmumudmod siya ng pera sa Kongreso.
Kaya nga iniipit ang news media.
Kaya nga marami sa nakikinabang sa kanyang PinoyBigBriber style eh laging dumedepensa sa kanya sa blogsite na ito.
December 4th, 2007 at 6:40 am
jun lakay,
Wag kang umiwas sa responsibilidad ng bawat Pilipino na pagsabihan o kung kinakailangan sipain galing sa kanilang pwesto kung may corrupt o sangkot sa katiwalian. Eh kung tulad ng sabi mo na may mga papalit din na kurapt eh di SIPAIN DIN SILA ULI!
Ang bangayan ay laging mananatili hanggang di natatanggal ang mga abusador sa pamahalaan, “So if the corrupt and abusive are not removed Lakay, then you would have to LIVE WITH THE CONSTANT STRUGGLE towards seeking for a better nation!”
December 4th, 2007 at 5:49 am
oh yeah..before I forget, we OFWs are only working our butts for our family. NOT FOR THE GOVERNMENT and not for any of you people who just party their arse all night and never care about the Philippines!…peace!
December 4th, 2007 at 5:42 am
Hahaha…37 solons went with gloria to the UK?what are those arseholes gonna do there?hmmmm…lets just say the very LEAST each of them are gonna be paid for by the filipino taxpayers’ money is 2,000 pounds(the least ok)..wow, that’s an astounding 74,000 pounds-equivalent to P 6.4million pesos! No wonder trillanes revolted against the current government. The Philippines has no other way to get out of its current quagmire. But thats ok, nobody cares about this country anyways. NO politician ever cares about the Philippines and its people. So yeah, we’ll just watch from the corner, as things unfold, as the country rot and the people starve.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:02 am
wat sabi u mc-90? ang sarap ng buhay d2 sa pinas? tado!! kailan p sumarap ang bhay s pinas..
December 4th, 2007 at 3:02 am
Bert
THIS IS A DISCLAIMER:
Another person is using the name ‘Bert’ in this blogsite. I would like to make it clear that the posting dated 02.12..07 5:33p.m. under this entry “Trillanes vs. GMA” purportedly under the name of a commenter ‘Bert’ is not the same as me. This is a new commenter maliciously using my name, maybe for some mischief. I am not therefore responsible for any content of any blogpost this new ‘Bert’ will be posting in this blogsite, or in any other blogsite for that matter
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BERT: THERE IS LOTS OF PEOPLE BY THAT NAMES. IF YOU DON’T LIKE OTHER PEOPLE USE THAT NAMES. DON’T! CHANGE YOUR NAME IN THIS BLOG, ANYTHING YOU WANT. JUST LIKE ME, IF SOMEBODY GOING TO USE MY NAME, I’M GOING TO CHANGE IT. MAYBE I’M GOING TO USE FAKE NAME. JUST LIKE FAKE PRESIDENT OF CEBU. HAY, NAKU! HAPPY BLOGGING, AND DON’T WORRY ABOUT THE POSTING HERE, I THINK WE ALL POST JUST TO GET OUR FRUSTRATION OUT.
December 4th, 2007 at 2:49 am
Tuesday, December 04, 2007
De Castro named SC justice
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WOW, HETO NA. OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO PAY HER BACK FOR A GOOD WORK WELL DONE ON CONVICTING PRESIDENT JOSEPH ESTRADA, OF PLUNBER ON JUENTING MONEY.
SALINA
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PRESIDENT Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has appointed Sandiganbayan presiding justice Teresita de Castro as Supreme Court (SC) associate justice, replacing Justice Cancio Garcia who retired last October 20.
Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye confirmed the appointment on December 1. He said the appointment papers have been forwarded to the SC.
Post your comments here on the Makati siege
De Castro, 59, penned the Sandiganbayan’s decision on the Estrada plunder and perjury case. She is the only justice of the anti-graft body who was able to sit through the trial from 2001 until 2007.
Former President Joseph Estrada was sentenced up to 40 years imprisonment on plunder but was cleared of perjury. The Sandiganbayan also ordered the seizure of about P745 million worth of Estrada’s assets.
De Castro started her judicial career as a law clerk, legal and judicial assistant in the SC of the Philippines (1973-1978). She was appointed state counsel (1978-1985), and promoted to senior state counsel (1985-1987), supervising state counsel, and chief of legal staff (1988-1989).
Before moving to the Sandiganbayan, de Castro was the state counsel V and chief of legal staff of the Department of Justice (1989-1995).
She earned her law degree from the University of the Philippines (1979) and passed the bar examination in November 1972 with a rating of 80.9 percent.
She is married to businessman Eduardo de Castro. Their daughter Christine Genevive, 28, works as executive assistant at the Court of Appeals while her half-brother, Eduardo L. Leonardo works as executive assistant at the Sandiganbayan.
Meanwhile, Sandiganbayan officials and employees welcomed the appointment of de Castro to the SC, calling it a well-deserved and long overdue promotion.
Led by Sandiganbayan Executive Clerk of Court IV Renato Bocar, the anti-graft court community said de Castro would have been appointed to the SC earlier if not only because of the plunder case of pardoned Estrada.
Bocar noted that de Castro had been included at least thrice in the shortlist of the Judicial and Bar Council (JBC) before President Arroyo finally appointed her as the new SC associate justice.
Earlier reports said de Castro had to turn down previous nominations to the post because of the Estrada plunder trial.
“Now that the plunder case against the former President had already been decided, I guess it’s about time that Justice de Castro get her well deserved promotion to the Supreme Court,” Bocar said. (JMR/Sunnex)
December 4th, 2007 at 2:45 am
Sana naman mandiri ang mga opposition na katulad ni SALINA na fan na fan nitong si Trillanes.
Try mong gawin ang ginawa ni Trillanes para makasigurado ka na tama ang ginagawa mo.
Unang-una bistado na ang pang aagaw ng gobyerno ang idol mo, ano ang pinag kaiba ng idol mo sa nirereklamo mo sa mga opisyal na nakaupo ngayon.
Isa pa, naniniwala ako na gumaganda ang takbo ng ekonomiya sa bansa, umuunlad ang Pilipinas kasi tumutulong ako sa mga programa ng gobyerno para sa ikabubuti ng mga mamayang Pilipino.
Ikaw anong gingawa mo, baka puro ka gastos sa pamimili mo ng stickers o kaya namn posters ni Trillanes baka kumpleto ang Trillnes collection of video kaya hindi mo nararamdaman ang pag-unlad.
Ito lang ang masasabi ko:
Kahit sino ka man ipagdadasal ko na sana maging mabuti ang mga buhay natin, lalong lalo na sa mga taong nagtratrabaho ng mabuti at may mga maganda at mabuting puso.
Mabuhay!
We love you President Gloria MAcapagal Arroyo.
December 4th, 2007 at 2:21 am
kahit sino pa man ilagay nyo jan sa malacanang wala rin mangyayari sa bayan,lahat na lng sa kanila……..mula sa presidente hanganga SK.TSSSSSSKKKK
December 4th, 2007 at 2:11 am
Stupid ang mga nakaupo kasi majority ng mga Pinoy eh stupid! Kaya di na tayo aasenso! Hopeless! Let the Phillipines be a US state. The US only will get the best and brightest pinoy, stupids will be junk in Iraq! hahaha.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:55 am
tama ka ka ambo..parang paghihiganti lang no? pero pasalamat ka may handang magbuwis ng kanyang buhay para ma-paghiganti ka sa mga kurakot sa mundo..tonyo..wag mo na nang uulitin yan ha..walang kwenta itong mga gusto mong iligtas..puro daldal,sobrang galing..di naman kumikilos!
December 4th, 2007 at 12:13 am
MC_90
Bert,
Siguro naman sinamahan mo si trillanes sa makati no????? hahahahahahahahaha
asan na nga pala yung 11M na pilipino na sinasabi nyong sumusuporta kay trillanes at sa opposition????? nawala na silang lahat???? AY TEKA..HINDI NA PUMUNTA KASI WALA NG PAMBAYAD ANG OPPOSITION NG MGA TAO PARA MAGRALLY…DI NA MAKABAYAD NG 300PESOS KASAMA PA PAGKAIN…BWAHAHAHAHAHA
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YEAH, SURE! AND GLORIA ARROYO, HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY TO PAY HER GOON’S TO PROTECT HER ASS. AND THATS THE TAXEPAYER’S MONEY SHE’S SPENDING. GO AHEAD A LAUGH.
December 4th, 2007 at 12:11 am
MC_90
anti gma,
sa nick name mo pa lang alam ko na kung ano sasabihin mo…wala ng thrill basahin ang post mo…narinig ko na din yan sa ibang opposition supporter dito…tanong mo pa kay bert, kabayan, OFW at iba pa…sinabi na din ila yang sinabi mo hahahahahahaha
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LEAVE HIM ALONE. IF HE KEEP SAYING THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN LIKE A BROKEN RECORD. LET IT BE! HIS ONLY LETTING LOSS ALL THE FRUSTRATION OUT IN THIS BLOG. LIKE ME!!!
I THANK MANNY/JOHN FOR THIS BLOG. THERE IS A PLACE I CAN LET ALL MY FRUASTION OUT. I’M SO MAD I CAN KICK A HORSE.
December 4th, 2007 at 12:06 am
abbygail
i agree w/ eureka re measly pay of govt officials but too much is expected of them. what they do in singapore is to pay their govt. officials competitive salaries so that they will perform their duties well, and not succumb to temptations/corruption, and it is working…
trillanes’ complaints about the gma govt is valid, just like what most of the writers in this blog feels…but the end does not justifies the means. what are his plans after, granting he was successful in his coup? he cannot articulate when he was being interviewed. its as if the mla pen incident was just an afterthought.
his training as a pmayer proved useless, and has an mpa public policy planning pa…what is your plan of action? ikaw lang yata ang nakakaalam ng plano mo e.
bopols…i also noticed the wrong spelling and grammar :-)) (bogus not bugos)
rotogold and jay….tama kayo.
this is a blog to express our opinions. do not insult those who are opposing your own thoughts. you even advocate trashing them to hell, my goodness. para kayong mga batang pikon kapag natalo sa laro…
let us stick to issues…
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YEAH, LETS STICK TO ISSUE. AND KICK THE BUGOS PRESIDENT OF CEBU FROM HER STOLEN POWER. PLEASE, STOP CORRECTING OUR SPELLING. THATS THE WAY WE WANT TO WRITE. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. KONG MALI, LET IT BE. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. AFTER ALL NO ONE PERFECT. THANK YOU!
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:28 pm
OOPPPPSSSS!!!
Teka lang mga reaksyunist… kayo sa palagay nyo may papel din sa pag ulad at pag bagsak ng ekonomiya ng bansa… tila ata masyado ang anghang ng dila nyo sa pag bibigay ng inyong saboobin at pahayag sa bawat panig (STvsGMA) ano ba ang papel mo (komentarismo) bawat isa sa inyo. ikaw bay Tax payer o tax grabber?
Yang si ST pakawala lang ng OPOSITION baka nga kumita pa yan na malaki tingnan nyo sa sinihan COMMING SOON movie ni TRILLANES. PRODUCE BY ABS-CBN…. Directed by CORINA..
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:27 pm
@Salina
“ITS BETTER TO BE A CALL COWARD AND BE DEAD WITHOUT A FIGHT. HE CAN LIVE AND FIGHT ANOTHER DAY.”
Ano daw?? Natawag ka na nga duwag tapos namatay ka pa ng walang laban? Pero nabuhay ka ulit at lumaban ka ulit??
Bow
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:20 pm
please concentrate on the main topic TRILLANES vs GMA - i’ll bet my b**ls
Trillanes will win hands down against GMS in a fair and honest election.
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:47 pm
abbygail,
the opposition will never stop talking about that issue…kasi yun na lang kasi ang pwede nilang gawing issue lagi…kahit na ilang SC pa ang nagsabi na legit ang admin ni GMA…para sa opposition iligit pa din yan…at hindi yan sila titigil hangat hindi napapatalsik si GMA sa pwesto nya…
EH ANG PROBLEMA NILA..KOKONTI NA LANG SILANG MGA TANGA..KOKONTI NA LANG SILANG MAY GUSTO NG GULO..KOKONTI NA LANG SILANG MAHILIG MAGRALLY IMBES NA MAGTRABAHO..KOKONTI NA LANG SILANG WALANG INIISIP KUNDI PANSARILI NILANG INTERES!!!!!!
IHIWALAY ANG NCR SA PILIPINAS!!!!!! MAG ELEK KAYO NG SARILI NINYONG PRESIDENTE!!!!!! TINGNAN NATIN KUNG DI PA DIN KAYO MAG AWAY AWAY..EH PURO DIN KAYO MGA SAKIM AT KAWATAN!!!
December 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pm
salina
THAT’S ANOTHER LIE. GLORIA ARROYO, AND HER DREAM ECONOMIST DAW,. PAD THEIR ROSY ECONOMY JUST LIKE THEY PAD HER VOTES IN MAY 10, 2004. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION TO ENSURE HER WINNING. SO THAT SHE CAN CONTENUE SQUATTING IN HER STOLEN POWER.
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duda ako sa boto na nakuha daw ni trillanes, 11 million, baka padded ang figures or puro flying voters………
eh katiting lang kasi ang nagpunta sa manila pen……..
December 3rd, 2007 at 8:45 pm
salina
WHAT DO YOU MEAN TO WAIT FOR 2010, MAYROON BANG ELECTION SA 2010? I DON’T THINK SO!
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hindi T*A*N*G*A ang mga opposition tulad ng iba dyan, para supportahan si trillanes sa kanyang rebellion kasi alam nila pag nagtagupay si trillanes sa kanyang ambisyong maging leader ng junta, malabo na magkaroon ng election kailan man……….
buti pa kay pandak, sigurado ang election sa 2010……..
ipusta mo pa lahat ng ari arian mo, tuloy ang election sa 2010…….
December 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Dok
Go Sen. Trillanes im supporting you, Gloria should resign Now.You can make it the next time around. POGS let me ask you too ikaw ano ba nagawa mo sa bayan natin? buti pa kami mga OFW nakikinabanagn pa ng hayop na govt natin ngayon kahit in return wala kaming nakuha sa kanila. Sen.Trillanes next time around pls ask the poor people/ masses/church/ and planned it well.SALINA hope you will come to realize that a govt is nt that good anymore,we need to change everything and it will start from yourself….
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salina, magkakampi kayo ni doc………
idol niya si trillanes, galit siya kay gloria……
baka hindi mo alam bulok daw ang gobyerno……..
kailangan ng pagbabago pero dapat ikaw daw ang maunang magbago…….
he….he…..he…….
parang opposition, sila sila nagtitirahan……
December 3rd, 2007 at 6:27 pm
To me what Trillanes has done is a blatant display of arrogance and shameless attempt at power grab!
The fact that the Filipino people did not heed his emotional and desperate call to join his rebellion is a clear indication that the Filipinos are tired and wary of ousting a duly elected leader through extraconstitutional means. Definitely, Trillanes is nothing but an ambitious, selfish, and incompetent leader.
December 3rd, 2007 at 5:51 pm
sana mag bitaw na lang c arroyo for being the president in the rep. of the phil. kasi magkakagulo lng rin ang ating bansa. dba nga may dapat tanghaling isang leader para mamuno sa ating bansa para maiwasan ang pag-aaway- away at para narin sa peace ng ating country. paano kng sa paghalal ng lider nagsisimula ang awayan at banghayan.. paano na lang ang atingb bansa … may pag-asa bang aasenso?
December 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 pm
to manolo and john…
it seems some writers here want to discuss still the gma legitimacy issue even after the sc has decided on it. if you will write about it, then i’m sure many will react…
December 3rd, 2007 at 5:30 pm
i agree w/ eureka re measly pay of govt officials but too much is expected of them. what they do in singapore is to pay their govt. officials competitive salaries so that they will perform their duties well, and not succumb to temptations/corruption, and it is working…
trillanes’ complaints about the gma govt is valid, just like what most of the writers in this blog feels…but the end does not justifies the means. what are his plans after, granting he was successful in his coup? he cannot articulate when he was being interviewed. its as if the mla pen incident was just an afterthought.
his training as a pmayer proved useless, and has an mpa public policy planning pa…what is your plan of action? ikaw lang yata ang nakakaalam ng plano mo e.
bopols…i also noticed the wrong spelling and grammar :-)) (bogus not bugos)
rotogold and jay….tama kayo.
this is a blog to express our opinions. do not insult those who are opposing your own thoughts. you even advocate trashing them to hell, my goodness. para kayong mga batang pikon kapag natalo sa laro…
let us stick to issues…
December 3rd, 2007 at 4:29 pm
anti gma,
sa nick name mo pa lang alam ko na kung ano sasabihin mo…wala ng thrill basahin ang post mo…narinig ko na din yan sa ibang opposition supporter dito…tanong mo pa kay bert, kabayan, OFW at iba pa…sinabi na din ila yang sinabi mo hahahahahahaha
December 3rd, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Bert,
Siguro naman sinamahan mo si trillanes sa makati no????? hahahahahahahahaha
asan na nga pala yung 11M na pilipino na sinasabi nyong sumusuporta kay trillanes at sa opposition????? nawala na silang lahat???? AY TEKA..HINDI NA PUMUNTA KASI WALA NG PAMBAYAD ANG OPPOSITION NG MGA TAO PARA MAGRALLY…DI NA MAKABAYAD NG 300PESOS KASAMA PA PAGKAIN…BWAHAHAHAHAHA
December 3rd, 2007 at 4:21 pm
comeon,
kung nadelete ang blogs mo na anti-gma..bakit nakalusot yang post mo ngayon…at bakit yata mas marami pang anti-gma na post dito kesa pro gma…
wag masyado mainit ang ulo brader…nagmumukha kang si trillanes bwahahahahahahahaha
December 3rd, 2007 at 4:19 pm
Ang mga nangyayari sa Blog na to ay isang napakagandang ejemplo kung bakit ang Pilipinas ay hindi umaasenso…at kung bakit ang karamihan sa mga Pilipino ay naghihirap pa din…
Bakit kasi hindi na lang ihiwalay ang NCR sa Pilipinas, ilipat na ang malacañang sa cebu..dun na tumira ang presidente…at maghalal ng ibang presidente para sa NCR…tapos ang problema….
MGa tao sa NCR lang naman ang mahilig guluhin ang economiya ng pilipinas…mga tao lang sa NCR ang mahilig tumangap ng 300pesos para pumunta sa rally bwahahahahaha
At salina dko maintindihan kung tagalog ka o bisaya ka o inglis ka hehehehe
December 3rd, 2007 at 4:10 pm
i for one supports what is good for the government.
first, Gloria has cheated well the public.
kilala ko si GARCI, kapitbahay namin iyan sa CDO, kaya tama lang na magsasabi akong cheater si gloria sa pamamagitan nhi garcillano.
second, trillanes came into picture and had been voted as senator.. won by 11 million votes…
third hindi pinaupo ang ibinoto ng mamamayan…
i cannot prejudge trillanes, but whatever he did is a spark that would remind us that we are not under a deomcratic government anymore.
look at the scenario of the rallyist…
saan na sila para ipakita kung ano ang nangyayari sa ating bansa? unti-unti inuobos ni GMA.
and everyone is frustrated, dop you think trillanes will do that (MANILA PEN) when he has duly seated as a senator. he knows the rules and sometimes, we, as human has our limits on facing the reality. sobra na ang panggugulo ni gloria.
karapatdapat lang na maupo si Sen Trillanes. Sana Po, maunawaan ninyo…
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:32 pm
salina
IF HE IS AN OUTLAW; GLORIA ARROYO, IS EVEN WORSE. SHE’S LIAR, CHEATER, MURDERER, A THIEVES, MURDERERRRRRRRRRRRR……AND THERE BIGGEST CROOKS.
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magbigay ka ng evidensya………
pwede ko sabihin si salina ay mabait, maganda, mapag alaga sa kapwa, talented, God fearing, etc…etc…, pero walang maniniwala kasi walang evidensya…….
baka mapag bintangan ako na isang T*A*N*G*A…………
puro satsat kayo, noong nagmamakaawa si idol niyo ‘come and join me’ wala namang dumating sa inyo……….
dont expect from the opposition, may kanya kanya na rin yung ambisyson para sa 2010 tulad ni binay, play safe na ang mga iyan…..
iniyabang na naman ang 11 million votes from the flying voters………..
kita kits na lang kayo sa hotel crame para ituloy ang laban ni trillanes………..
dyan kayo hanggang gusto ninyo, tapos hotel hopping kayo sa new bilibid hotel at mag happy happy……….
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:23 pm
WALA NAMAN TAYO MAKUHA KAPALIT NI GMA. KAHIT SINO ANG ILAGAY NATIN KHIT C TRILLANES AT IBA PANG OPPOSISYON, PAREHO LANG ANG GAWAIN NG MGA YAN.
IF MERON KAYO MAI-SUGGEST NA PWEDE ILAGAY SA PWESTO NI GMA AT TALAGA NAMAN MALINIS ANG PAGKATAO AT HANGARIN PARA SA TAO, DEN IBOTO NATIN SA 2010.
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:20 pm
comeon
WHY IS THE MODERATOR OF THIS BLOG BIAS?
HE ALWAYS DELETE SOME POST IN FAVOR OF THE GOVT..
YET ALLOW THE “SALINA” TO SHOW HER REPLIES.
STOP POSTING HERE!
“TRILLANES IS GAY. DULL, TANTRUM MASTER, COVER-UP LEFTIST…JUST LKE SALINA..OK? ENOUGH SAID..”..
YOU’RE ALL WASTING TIME POSTING HERE..
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tiyaga lang pre…….
gusto nila mga post ni salina, very informative (alang kakwenta kwenta)……….
tulad ng election 2007 blog, this blog will alos die pag ganyan……….
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Trillanes led a failed attempt to ask GMA to step down due to various anomalies perpetuated by her family and allies. The attempt failed - but he did not fail to try… He was there when the rest of us chose to curse the government but enjoyed the shortened work hours… He risked his life when all we spent was electricity watching the coverage. But I can not turn a deaf ear to someone who said that Trillanes could in fact be Malacanang’s ally by being the spoiler for the real mass action against GMA supposedly slated on November 30….
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:10 pm
THIS IS A DISCLAIMER:
Another person is using the name ‘Bert’ in this blogsite. I would like to make it clear that the posting dated 02.12..07 5:33p.m. under this entry “Trillanes vs. GMA” purportedly under the name of a commenter ‘Bert’ is not the same as me. This is a new commenter maliciously using my name, maybe for some mischief. I am not therefore responsible for any content of any blogpost this new ‘Bert’ will be posting in this blogsite, or in any other blogsite for that matter.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:10 pm
i am not saying that what trillanes did was right, but i’m not for the administration either. if you are going to punish someone who violated the rules, then punish everyone else who does as well.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Trinidad Ramos
It’s not only academic credentials, its also about honesty, morality and ethics.
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PINOY’S! WALA NIYA. KONG MAYROON MAN, YOU CAN’T EVEN COUNT THEM.
December 3rd, 2007 at 11:33 am
[quote from ric]To eureca
You say, not moral but economy is theneeded solution. True but still wrong. Because without morality, the economy will not prosper, at least not in any favor for the common and poor.
There are parts of the economy booming. Just look at all the goods which are imported in now cheap Dollars. There should be a lower price in “strong Pesos” since less Pesos are needed for to pay the Dollar bills. But what happens? All those goods increase and increase their Peso price,already higher than when the Dollar was 55 Pesos. A booming economy for the importers. Only, the common and poor pay for it, also the families of OFWs. And why this happens? Because there is economy without morality.[end quote]
My response:
I HATE it when people harp on there being a moral problem. It is a vacuous platitude. It is an evasion. It is a copout. It is a deadend answer. How do you solve this moral problem? Let everyone reflect and pray on it? For moral people who are not the problem this might do some good. For immoral people its completely useless. By the way the basic assumption it makes is insulting when you consider people of other nationalities are doing better and aren’t fretting over their morality. The assumption made when thinking this way is that Filipinos are intrinsically less moral than other people. I simply don’t buy that. Just as bad is that this non answer of a suposed moral problem misdirects attention from the need to come up with a real answer to the real problem. The real problem is economic. The real problem is a system that instead of rewarding people for a job well done encourages people to be corrupt. The real problem is a mentality among people that avoids coming up with real solutions. For example people talk about corruption ALL THE TIME. But what possible solutions have been presented? Nothing but variations on change the people and pray people become more moral. Useless. If people are really serious about the problem solutions like diverting money into fighting corruption through hiring more auditors, inspectors, law enforcers, prosecutors, and judges should be looked at or campaign finance reform or raising wages and benefits for government officials to make them more resilient to the temptations of corruption. But no the citizenry instead keeps talking of morals. Translation: Sorry we don’t have anything to give you but do all these things for us and you’ll be rewarded in heaven. Sound like a good deal to you?
As for your complaint about rising prices and common people having to pay for it, it is a problem. But rising prices help those who produce the goods and services and by extension those who work. By keeping prices artificially low you are punishing those who produce goods and services and rewarding those who don’t. The effect is a less developed economy and low wages which has ended up hurting everyone. This has been going on for years and is one reason we have become an economic backwater. This has to change if the future is going to be brighter.
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 am
The only thing I don’t like with PGMA is the value of peso. Tumaas na masyado. Umuwi ako diyan para mag-shopping, konti lang peso ang kapalit ng $ ko. Booohohoho! At saka mula noong galing si Mrs. Pandak kono dito sa NZ, naging busy ang business ko. Mga trade orders naging triple! Mga babaeng leaders talaga, slave-drivers, and bitchy. Sa mga pinoy na ayaw kay Pres. Pandak, sorry na lang kayo. Mas pinaganda nya ang buhay ng mga hard-working Pinoys like me. I can afford to stay at the Pen without ransacking the darn place like your jerk of a guy Trillanes. Mataas pala ang educational qualification ng bruho, sira ang disposition sa buhay. Nagkunwaring doing it for the Filipino, my smelly bottom! Why not say doing it for himself, ’cause I want to be on international tv!! Daming hypocrates talaga na Pinoy. Dinidiin ‘nyo pa na illegal at nag-cheat si Mrs. Pandak! Ano ba kayo? Sino ba talaga ang politiko dyan na hindi cheater. Lahat naman sila. Tigil na nga kayo. Nakaka-high blood talaga ang mga ibang Pinoy. Napansin ko pala, may maraming nag-post dito na iisa ang IP address… Ooopps! Member siguro ng iisang grupo na contra-GMA. O, kaya, iisang tao pero parents nya octopus at squid. Maraming kalamay! God bless Mrs. Pandak. Don’t judge her, or you will be judge!
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 am
nok
to salina :
ofw ako di na ako mag papadala ng pera sa family ko dyan sa pinas tugon sa sinasabi mo
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NOK: SORRY, KONG MALI ANG PAG KA INTENDI MO SA SINABI KO. I DON’T MEANT IT THAT WAY! I KNOW MOST OF FILIPINO PEOPLE WORKING ABROAD SO BECAUSE THERE IS NO WORK IN THE PHILIPPINES. AND I KNOW THAT ALL OFW SEND MOST OF THEIR INCOME TO THEIR LOVE ONE SO THAT THEY HAVE MONEY TO BUY THEIR GROCERY. ANG SA AKIN LANG IF WE REALLY WANT GLORIA ARROYO, TO STEP DOWN FROM HER STOLEN POWER. STOP SENDING BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE WITHOUT THE MONEY REMITTANCE OFW SEND BACK HOME THE PHILIPPINES ECONOMY GOING DOWN UNDER.
SALINA
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what Trillanes, Are fighting for; Then do your part and not paying your taxes.
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I NEVER PAY TAXES IN THE PHILIPPINES. YES! I’M DOING MY PART. SALINA
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And if you’re working abroad stop sending big amount of money to the philippines, Because without the OFW money remittance the Philippines economy surely going down under. And so is Gloria Arroyo, Bogus regime.”
So ikaw na bahala sa gastusin ng pamilya ko dyan sa pinas ano ba email add mo ng maibigay ko account number ko para doon mo na lang i deposit ang allowance ng family ko..
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SORRY, PARI! I’M NOT IN THE PHILIPPINES, I’M HERE IN CALIFORNIA. AND SORRY, DIN IS NOT MY JOB TO GIVE YOUR FAMILY ALLOWANCE. INISULTO MO YATA AKO. WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO. IF YOU WANT TO SUPPORT SEN: TRILLANES, IN HIS FIGHT. SUPPORT HIM ALL THE WAY. HINDI KAY, KONG ANO ANO PA ANG SABIHIN MO. AND SORRY, ALSO I DON’T GIVE OUT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS.
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 am
jojo
tagal na kasing may crush si gloria kay trillanes, di naman pinapansin dahil pandak..kaya hayan nagkagulo
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CAN YOU BLAME HIM, IF HE DIDN’T PAY ATTENTION TO PANDAK. MY GOD! SHE HAVE A FACE ONLY MOTHER CAN LOVE.
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 am
mga kabayan nagbabangayan,
ihinto na ninyo yang mga pinagsasabi niyo, pare parehas lng kayo.. maka GMA at anti GMA… wala na ba kayong magawa sa sarili niyo? puro na lng kayo dada ng dada na parang kayo ang mamaka solve sa problema ng nakakarami.. kung ako sa inyo, ang pagtuunan ng pansin ay kung papano niyo maitataguyod makakain ng tatlong beses isang araw ang pamilya niyo.. wala na tayong magagawa pa.. kahit sino ang mamahala ganon pa rin ang mangayayari dahil ang corruption sa atin ay sagad na hangang buto.. kaya mga kabayan kung mahilig sa bangayan, huminto na kayo sa mga pinaggagawa niyo… mamatay man lahat ang mga corrupt sa lipunan, meron at meron pa rin papalit sa kanila… mawalis man lahat ang mga mapagsamantalang tongressman at mga walang kwentang senadores, meron at meron pa rin papalit na katulad nila… maawa na lng kayo sa sarili niyo dahil ang mga yan ay walang awa sa taong bayan… period… salamat po…
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:56 am
I just want to congratulate the police and army for a job well done.
It was confirmed in the column of Marichu Villanueva of Phil Star that media personalities were already booked at the Manila Pen a day before the coup.
Another thing, I will not vote for Senators running for President that will not act rightfully with this adventure. I am just wondering why no fair treatment in their senate inquiry. If their collegue is involved, a lot of excuses are given. But if others are involved, they are fast to the draw.
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 am
assuming that president gloria arroyo has lost the public’s trust in her governance because of alleged numerous anomalies embroiled in her administration and the meddling of her husband in goverment affairs. the actions of senator trillanes as a public official in his latest acts of adventurism is unacceptable.
to set the record straight even before he become a senator he has been charge for a crime of rebellion to which i think is punishable by more the six years of imprisonment.
one of the privileges that a member of congress enjoys is the privilege from arrest. in this regard, section 11, article VI, of the constitution provides as follows:
a senator or member of the house of representatives shall, in all offenses punishable by not more than six years imprisonment, be privileged from arrest while the congress is in session. no member shall be questioned nor be held liable in any other place for any speech or debate in Congress or in any committee thereof.
in effect he is no longer covered by parliamentary immunity as provided by the constitution if my understanding is true and correct based on the articles of the constitution. this is the very same reason why senator trillanes was not allowed to attend a senate session.
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:12 am
Jane P.,
Tumaas ang stockmarket sa kalagitnaan ng pangyayari sa Manila Pen. Tumaas din ang stockmarket ng Batasan blast. Lumalabas na nakakatulong ang kilos ni Trillanes, Lim at Guingona sa ekonomiya. Pati negosyante wala nang tiwala sa kurapsyon at katiwalian ng administrasyong ito. Di nakapagtataka kung tumaas ang stockmarket ng 200 na puntos kung bumaba na ang pinuno, kunsintidor at nagtatakip ng katiwalian sa pamahalaan; yung pinakamataas na ehekutibo sa gubyerno. Para sa yo Gloria, Resign ka na para makatulong ka sa ekonomiya at nang matigil na ang maling ehemplo na isinasawalat mo sa bayan.
December 3rd, 2007 at 5:17 am
to “kuya” cj
“In the case of GMA’s legitimacy, during EDSA II she was sworn in as president by the Supreme Court as the lawful successor. The withdrawal of support by top goverment officials from Estrada have effectively stripped him of power”
my reply: yes, davide sworn gma as “acting president”. meaning, only temporary as they know pres. estrada didn’t submit a resignation letter to the senate president and speaker. however, the supreme court finally declared that president estrada has “constructively resigned” by way of angara diary which was printed on the inquirer. do they have the right to declare that president estrada resigned? definitely, not. besides, the supreme court only deals with question of law, not question of facts. the angara diary wasn’t presented as evidence by gma or president estrada, yet the supreme court treated it as evidence of “estrada’s mindset”. note, it wasn’t president estrada who wrote it but exec sec angara. the biggest question is, is it right for the supreme court to use newspaper clippings as evidence? sad to say but it’s only in the philippines. newspaper clippings shouldn’t be considered as evidence.
“During the 2004 elections people say that GMA cheated. Again has this been proven beyond reasonable doubt? Hello Garci wiretap scandal isn’t even valid as evidence in court thus is this acceptable as an excuse? If so then all of us could be hauled everytime we caught talking to someone we trust and recorded without our knowledge.”
well, it hasn’t been proven beyond reasonable doubt because gma and her allies were always invoking the unconstitutional EO 464. why did they invoke it if she has nothing to hide. also, why did garci slipped out of the country during the scandal? of course, they’ll deny it. but how credible are they? sadly, they aren’t.
as for the wiretap, who instructed the isapf to tapped garci’s phone? who has the interest in making sure that garci does his job as “manipulator”? whose votes was he protecting? of course, we don’t have to answer that. gma was just stupid enough to call him on his cellphone. yes, they cheated and she, together with garci, were caught pants down. who presented the disc to the public? remember the “i have 2 discs” incident? that started it. since they offered it to the public, they waived their right to privacy. sorry, but their lies backfired. they didn’t expect the filipinos to be so stupid to believe their side.
gma isn’t and wasn’t a legitimate president. she has no right to stay as president of the phils. worst, she’s destroying our courtry through plunder, cronyism, destruction of rule of law, breakdown of peace and order, etc…she must be stopped at all cost. philippines will pay a bigger price the longer she stays.
December 3rd, 2007 at 5:02 am
WHY IS THE MODERATOR OF THIS BLOG BIAS?
HE ALWAYS DELETE SOME POST IN FAVOR OF THE GOVT..
YET ALLOW THE “SALINA” TO SHOW HER REPLIES.
STOP POSTING HERE!
“TRILLANES IS GAY. DULL, TANTRUM MASTER, COVER-UP LEFTIST…JUST LKE SALINA..OK? ENOUGH SAID..”..
YOU’RE ALL WASTING TIME POSTING HERE..
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:36 am
PARA SA AKIN TAMA LANG ANG GINAWA NI SEN.TRILLANES AT LEAST MAY TAONG MATAPANG AT MAY PANININDIGAN.SALUDO AKO SA KANYA PARA MATAUHAN ANG GOBYERNO KASI PURO CORRUPT NA LAHAT ANG NASA MALAKANYANG.KASI ANG KULANG SA ATIN AY CIVIL WAR PARA MADALA AT UMASENSO NA ANG ATING BAYAN.SA HISTORY NG MAYAYAMANG BANSA BAGO SILA YUMAMAN AY NAGKA CIVIL WAR MUNA AT TSAKA TUMINO ANG GOBYERNO.SI TRILLANES ANG BONIFACIO NGAYON HENERASYON NATIN.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:41 am
A trap that the Arroyo Government failed to realize.
Read more on
http://filipinotaxpayer.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-you-see-is-not-what-you-get.html
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:38 am
Go Sen. Trillanes im supporting you, Gloria should resign Now.You can make it the next time around. POGS let me ask you too ikaw ano ba nagawa mo sa bayan natin? buti pa kami mga OFW nakikinabanagn pa ng hayop na govt natin ngayon kahit in return wala kaming nakuha sa kanila. Sen.Trillanes next time around pls ask the poor people/ masses/church/ and planned it well.SALINA hope you will come to realize that a govt is nt that good anymore,we need to change everything and it will start from yourself….
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:25 am
i thought we learned our lesson when it comes to coup. hindi pa rin pala. sa tingin ko hindi lang si PGMA ang may problema dito, kundi tayo mismong mga pilipino. wala tayong kadala dala. tayo na rin mismo ang nag totolerate sa mga tulad ni Trillanes at sa mga oportunistang sumisira sa ating lipunan. bakit hindi na lang i firing squad ang mga taong ito.
Sa mga senador naman na walang mga balls at mga bakla, mas kinundina nyo ang pag aresto sa mga press at sa pagpapalabas ng curfew, pero ang mismong kauri nyo, wala kayong masabi. nakakasuka ka VILLAR, Roxas at Pangilinan, isinama na kita pimentel at escudero, WALA KAYONG MGA BALLS. TAKOT KAYONG LAHAT KAY TRILLANES. MGA BAKLA, sandali lang, mas may pakinabang nga pala ang mga bakla sa inyo. BASURA kaya? Palibhasa may mga hidden agenda rin kayo kaya takot kayong kalabanin ang press. imbes na kundinahin nyo ang ginawa ni Trillanes, sinisisi nio ang gobyerno sa pag aresto sa mga press at pag baba ng curfew na ang intensyon lang eh ma maintain ang peace and order. Pero ang mag bigay kayo ng strong words against TRILLANES, mga bahag ang buntot nio. Kung kayong mga senador eh may mga protocol sa bawat situation, bakit hindi nio ibigay ang karapatan ng mga otoridad na gampanan nila ang kanilang tungkulin sa ganong mga sitwasyon?
Buti pa si senator mirriam na babae, matapang ang loob, hindi nag dalawang isip mag palabas ng press against trillanes. mabuhay ka senator mirriam, dahil wala ng mga senador na lalaki na walang balls ang susunod sa ginawa mo.
At para sa mga WALANG BALLS na SENADOR, na duwag kay trillanes, hindi bagay sa inyo ang barong, mag saya na lang kayo.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:05 am
To eureca
You say, not moral but economy is theneeded solution. True but still wrong. Because without morality, the economy will not prosper, at least not in any favor for the common and poor.
There are parts of the economy booming. Just look at all the goods which are imported in now cheap Dollars. There should be a lower price in “strong Pesos” since less Pesos are needed for to pay the Dollar bills. But what happens? All those goods increase and increase their Peso price,already higher than when the Dollar was 55 Pesos. A booming economy for the importers. Only, the common and poor pay for it, also the families of OFWs. And why this happens? Because there is economy without morality.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 pm
alonglongwaywillie
what trillanes has done was totally unacceptable.. an elected senator is expected to act with humility and deference to the administration of justice.. walking out was an act of pure desperation, it reflects his unbridled disregard to the established institutions of government.. he’s an outlaw!!!!!
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IF HE IS AN OUTLAW; GLORIA ARROYO, IS EVEN WORSE. SHE’S LIAR, CHEATER, MURDERER, A THIEVES, MURDERERRRRRRRRRRRR……AND THERE BIGGEST CROOKS.
December 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Bakit sa ibang mga online computer di naka-post comment ko…sincere kaya talaga blog na ‘to sa mga mambabasa n’ya?
December 2nd, 2007 at 9:12 pm
there is still hope as long as there are thinking indiv. like ian velasco, bopols, eureka, pogs, kuya cj, et. al.
it is so easy to put blame on other people for our misery, but have we been upright, honest, righteous, law-abiding citizens ourselves? just like what the above pointed out, how many of us has been remissed? do we pay the right taxes, do we bribe the policemen to avoid hassle? do we pay our maids the right salary? do we participate in a rigged bidding? just to reach our destination, do we follow the jeepneys in the counterflow? how many of you have faked the results just so you will pass the anti-drug test for drivers? and so on….
let us examine ourselves first. let who is without sin, cast the first hollow block hahaha(fr. tony abaya).
yung maliliit na kasalanan na yan, yan ang umpisa ng corruption. when the time comes for you to assume an elected position, what kind of a public official will you be? your guess is as good as mine.
it all boils down to having a good, solid moral foundation….na hindi puedeng buwagin ng salapi…
thus, if you are looking for heroes, do not look in the direction of trillanes and co., you will be lost, bec. he himself does not know where to go…he is not a true revolutionary (sosi ang tastes, haha).
December 2nd, 2007 at 7:07 pm
Bias yata ang blog na ‘to…bakit tinanggal ang komento ko…akala ko ang blog na ‘to ay nais mapulsuhan ang saloobin ng mambabasa ng inquirer…bakit tinatanggal nila ang mga kometo ng ibang mambabasa…dahil ba against sa administrasyong GMA…pro sana nagpadala man lang ng explanation kung bakit tinanggal…ang komento ay opinyon at ang opinyon ay opinyon, walang bisa na tulad sa isang batas…nasuhulan na rin yata ang blog na ‘to…
December 2nd, 2007 at 5:33 pm
MABUHAY KAYO TRILLANES!!!
IPAGPATULOY NYO ANG LABAN HANGGANG MATANGGAL C PANDAK SA MALACANANG KASAMA MGA ALIPORIS NYANG MGA MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
ANG MGA BUMABATIKOS SA INYO AY MGA PINOY NA MAGNANAKAW KATULAD NG PAMILYANG ARROYO !!!!!
DAPAT ITAPON SA IMPYERNO PWE!!!!
AGAIN , MABUHAY KAYO TRILLANES !!! MY PRAYER TO ALL OF YOU !!! MAY GOD
BLESS YOU AND HELP YOU TO SUCCEED IN BRINGING DOWN THIS STUPID ARROYO REGIME……….
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Para kay POGS ito:
Hi, POGS! Galit ka sa OFW dahil pinadadalhan niya ng pambili ng bigas ang kanyang Tatay at Nanay. Kawawa naman ang Tatay at Nanay mo sa pagkakaroon niya ng isang anak na kagaya mo. Sana meron kang ibang kapatid na nai-iba sa iyong patakaran sa buhay, dahil kung nagi-isa kang anak, malamang tirik na ang mga mata ng Tatay at Nanay mo sa gutom sa ngayon. Tama nga na huwag ka ng mag-anak, dahil kung ang maging anak mo magiging kagaya mo, siguradong ang iyong mga mata naman ang titirik sa gutom. Inatake mo ang mga mag-a-aral sa public schools na ginastusan ng gobierno, pero ipinagta-tanggol mo ang mga politikong nandudukot sa iyong mga bulsa ng million-million, imbes na mapunta sa mga maga-aral na iyong kinukondena. Iminu-mungkahi mo ang pagmamahal sa sarili, sa iyong sarili, may palagay akong kayang mong gawin iyon, pero sa iyong kapwa, lalo na sa iyong mga kamg-anak baka mahirapan kang gawin na mahalin sila. Kung hindi magpa-payaman ang mga politiko hindi sila tatakbo sa politika, sabi mo? Haaay, naku!!!! Huwag nang ibigay ng mga politiko ang 20% ng kanilang assets, ibigay na lang nila 20% ng mga ninakaw nila sa bulsa mo, malaking tulong na iyon sa mga maga-aral. Mahalin mo na lang ang mahal mong presidente, pero huwag mo namang gutomin ang iyong Tatay at Nanay. Paki-usap lang.
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Putchist Trillanes laging sinasabi niya ang 11 millions na bumoto sa kanya…always remember na binoto ka nila dahil sa prinsipyo but hindi sa pamamaraan mo na mang-agaw ng gobyerno!
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:17 pm
tagal na kasing may crush si gloria kay trillanes, di naman pinapansin dahil pandak..kaya hayan nagkagulo
December 2nd, 2007 at 3:43 pm
POGS!
naging isang OFW ka na ba at nasasabi mo ang ganyan, maliit nga ang suweldo namin oo, sample ako 8000 riyals lang po, ikaw ba magkano ang suweldo mo, masyado mo yatang ibinababa ang uri ng mga OFW sa komento mo, paalala lang po si GMA at Trillanes po issue dito at hindi kaming OFW
pagbigyan natin ang mga GMA supporters, mabuhay si GMA dahil sa madami niyang accomplishment, STABLE ECONOMY (patuloy na patuloy na pagtaas ng mga bilihin), TRANSPARENT GOVERNMENT (sorry it is a lapsed in judgement), PROPER FUND UTILIZATION (mamudmod ng pera sa mga kakampi), at marami pa, MABUHAY KA GMA!!!
so kuntento na po ba tayo talagang ganito na lang manood sa mga pinaggagawa ng palasyo habang niyuyurakan ang ating kabang yaman at ginagawang tanga ang mga pilipino!!!
me mas sasakit pa ba sa paggamit ng salitang PANDAK kesa sa patuloy na panglolokong ginagawa ng PALASYO…
don’t take me wrong hindi rin namin gusto ang marahas na pamamaraan, pero sa KAPAL NG MUKHA ng nasa TRONO, itanong nga natin sa ating sarili, ano pa ang pwede nating gawin para magkusa siyang umalis ng palasyo!!!!
December 2nd, 2007 at 3:32 pm
DENNIS TRILLO
look who’s talking!!! can you try to face to the mirror and tell who kung sino ang mababang uri ngayon, first of all, i am not referring in general and no intention, in any way, para yurakan ang mga filipino sa paggamit ng salitang “PANDAK”, it is an expression, if you got it on a wrong way, sorry ha, maybe you are one of those who look things on a different way, and please take note, hindi lang pinoy ang maliliit, and we are talking here of national issues, tulad ng mga pandaraya at kapalpalakan ni PANDAK (uulitin ko po si GMA po iyon - hindi po GENERAL) kung nasasaktan ka man at tinatamaan ang ibinoto mo yatang presidente, sorry ha , karapatan ko ring magpahayag ng aking damdamin,
kung paanong hindi tayo tumututol sa mga pumupuri ke GMA, huwag din naman kayong masasaktan kung gumagamit man kami ng mga salitang masasakit para sa kanya, parehas lang iyon di ba
ganon pa man, sana mabawasan na ang KAPAL NG MUKHA ng mga tao sa palasyo
gising na tayo, i mulat na ang mata sa tunay na pangyayari, huwag na tayong magpabulag sa maling pag asa!!! HALLLEEERR!!!!
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:14 pm
NAPAKA-SIMPLENG SUMAHAN. MAGKANO BA ANG HALAGA NG DAMAGE SA MANILA PEN AT IBANG BUSINESS LOSSES NA DULOT NG ANIM NA ORAS NA KAGULUHANG GINAWA NG GRUPO NI SEN. TRILLANES SA MANILA PEN BUGSO NG KANILANG DISSATISFACTION SA ADMINISTRAYONG ARROYO AT GRIEVANCES SA MGA GRAFT & CORRUPTION ISSUES NG ADMINISTRASYONG ITO? MAGKANO NAMAN ANG NALUSTAY NANG PERA SA KABAN NG BAYAN DAHIL SA GRAFT AND CORRUPTION NG ADMINISTRASYONG ARROYO PARA MANATILI SA PWESTO AT KAPANGYARIHAN? KUNG ANG HALAGA NANG UNA AY MAS MATAAS KAYSA SA HALAGA NANG PANGALAWA, ANG GRUPO NI SEN. TRILLANES NA NAGSAGAWA NG NASABING KAGULUHAN SA MANILA PEN AY WALANG NANG KARAPATANG MAGING FILIPINO AT KAILANGANG BITAYIN NA LANG SILA TULAD NI SADDAM HUSSEIN. KUNG ANG HALAGA NAMAN NG NALUSTAY NANG PERA NG KABAN NG BAYAN AY MAS MALAKI KAYSA HALAGA NG UNA, HINDI LANG PAGBABA SA PWESTO NI ARROYO ANG BAGAY SA KANYA, DAPAT RIN SIYANG BITAYIN KATULAD NI SADDAM HUSSEIN!!! GALING SA DUGO AT PAWIS NG MGA FILIPINO ANG BINABAYAD NILA SA TAXES BILANG MGA MAMAMAYAN AT DUGO AT PAWIS DIN ANG PUHUNAN NG MGA OFWs PARA KUMITA SA IBAYONG DAGAT AT MAKAPAGPADALA SA KANILANG MAHAL SA BUHAY SA FILIPINAS NA LUBOS NAMANG NAKAKATULONG UPANG TUMAAS ANG HALAGA NG PISO LABAN SA DOLYAR!!!
December 2nd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
to salina :
ofw ako di na ako mag papadala ng pera sa family ko dyan sa pinas tugon sa sinasabi mo
” If you really believe on what Trillanes, Are fighting for; Then do your part and not paying your taxes. And if you’re working abroad stop sending big amount of money to the philippines, Because without the OFW money remittance the Philippines economy surely going down under. And so is Gloria Arroyo, Bogus regime.”
So ikaw na bahala sa gastusin ng pamilya ko dyan sa pinas ano ba email add mo ng maibigay ko account number ko para doon mo na lang i deposit ang allowance ng family ko..
December 2nd, 2007 at 12:33 pm
http://www.petitiononline.com/xpel2nyo/petition.html —> Expel Tonyo Trillanes From The Senate
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:52 am
jose
It just shows, too much democracy will not work in a country like ours. Halu halo na kasi tau, lahat gustong pakialaman. Why not leave politics to politicians, religion to priest and bishops, etc. Parang trabaho lang yan, kung doktor ka, hindi ka puedeng maging abugado. Wala na tau sa ayos. Problema kasi sa atin, pag may gusto tau at hindi napagbigyan, nagrerebelde. We reap what we sow, nagbenta kau ng boto niyo sa mga congressman niyo, wala kayo ngayung impeachment, so ang mabuting gawin natin, magtrabaho na lang tau and wait until 2010, sana naman maliwanagan na tau ng isipan by that time.
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN TO WAIT FOR 2010, MAYROON BANG ELECTION SA 2010? I DON’T THINK SO! JUST BECAUSE GLORIA ARROYO, SAID SHE’S GOING TO STEP DOWN IN 2010, THAT’S DON’T MEANT SHE IS. HOW CAN ANYBODY BELIEVE HER WHEN SHE ALREADY PROVEN HERSELF TO BE THE NUMBER ONE LIAR.
December 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 am
Pogs you bring up a question that is usually glossed over but might be at root of the problem. What motivates politicians to do their job? What should motivate them?
My answer though I think will be different from what you expect. I think it is fine for a politician to be motivated in part by money and power and prestige and all the perks that come with office. I do not begrudge them for it. I think the expected pay should be commensurate with the expected service they provide. If they are in a poisition of power and influence they should be paid accordingly. I think it is human to think so. But when I hear of Filipinos talk about their expectations of people in government I perceive a reality disconnect. I hear they expect their politicians to be bright honest and hardworking rendering selfless service — with the unsaid assumption they’ll be paid the basic government wage which we should all know is a pittance. If there is talk of raising wages there is a kneejerk response, a cry of indignant outrage goes up like “How can these selfish people think of such a thing with so many poor people!” It’s hypocritical. People expect something but aren’t willing to pay for it. What kind of person is going to go into a government job then? Well he’ll either be a saint, a chump, a crook, or someone desperate. Most qualified and conscientious candidates will go into private practice. To expect everyone in government to be a saint is unreasonable and stupid. A job should give someone a feeling of self worth not make him think he is getting royally screwed. Should it be any wonder that government has ended up as corrupt and ineffective as it has?
December 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 am
See what I mean when people were rooting for him in 2003 to run as senator and he won?
those were sympathy votes.We have not yet matured as a voter. We are still looking for personality.
One of trillanes’ platform was to oust GMA. ANd he keeps on trying. Tama ba yun? As a legislator, ousting a sitting president is way far too out.
An idealistic MILITARY man like him should have stayed in the sidelines. Yet, he pursued his political dreams, because he too was guilty of the very same reasons he was against in the first place.
He is such a spoiled brat that whatever he wants, he gets. That is ladies and gays, is trillanes.
You have put too much hope in the guy. He has no compunction putting the country at risk despite all, basta masunod lang ang gusto niya.
And he has miscalculated.
Sa mga supporters niya, if you really really believe in him, if you have the same fiery idealism that he has, whatever you are doing at that time he was doing things at the Peninsula, there are no excuses, you would have dropped everything that you were doing and rushed to his side. That is real support.
We did that with Marcos. I was working with the government then, and yet I walked out in the middle of a meeting because the call to march to EDSA was announced. And I did not really care whatever happened. That was the spirit.
Unfortunately , now that same fervor is gone. Why, because all of this support for this supposed to be hero is superficial. Rhetorics. Nothing concrete. He is blaming the government for everything. And yet he does not realize that what they did at Oakwood contributed much to the weakening of the economy and the government had to do some catching up. Kung d nila ginawa yun, we could have been more progressive now. And perhaps , yung hinahanap nilang progress nangyayari na.
this government is working. You cannot argue with that. Despite the corruption, despite what you reading in the news, this government is focused in putting back the Philippines into the international financial community. and it is succeeding.
kung hindi, kayong mga bata, would not have been earning like 18k a month working in a BPO, hindi kayo nakakagimik pag off niyo, and you would have not be spending like you are spending now.
So, between trillanes who is an advocate of violence, and this present government , will you still choose violence. Ready na ba kayo for a civil war?
just a question for you ponder. See beyond the personality. The actions were displayed in living color. He knows how defeated he has become when he surrendered. Hindi niya kayang panindigan to the end ang pinaglalaban niya, or else, he would have carried his dreams to his death. That would have made him more believable. That could have made him a martyr. A rallying point.
But no, he proved that for the second time around, trillanes is still a coward, and part of the elite, that elite that he has frown on so much, that he cannot just throw his back on his social background.
That to you ladies and gays is antonio trillanes the fourth.
And he deserves to serve his time in prison despite the 11 million votes he received when he was elected senator. He does not deserve to sit in the Senate.
He became a traitor to this country when he pushed his luck at the Peninsula.
Pity.
December 2nd, 2007 at 9:58 am
Trillanes deserved to be either rot in jail or be firing squad and so Lim and all the military and civilians who supported this another blatant attempt to grab power.
Our country had enough problems, we should look at our backyard and realised how our neighbours had bypassed the philippines in terms of political stability and development.
Kawawa na masyado ang ating bayan, although I condemned rampant corruption in our present system, I will not support unconstitutional means to change our political system, Masyado tayong nakakahiya sa ibang bansa, wala ng inatupag ang mga pilipino kundi pulitika at eleksyon, mapang abuso tayo sa mga kalayaan na meron tayo at ginagawa natin lahat ng paraan para bumagsak ang sinuman, maging kapwa man o pinuno na sinisikap paunlarin ang ating bayan.
Enough of Honasan, Trillanes and all dirty politicians plaguing our hapless nation..
December 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 am
Sen Traillaes,
Kung meron ka lang pasensiya at pagpapakumbaba ikaw na sana ang magiging presidente ng bansa sa 2010. Nanalo ka ng pagka senador na hindi ka man lang gumastos ng malaki at alam ko na marami ang naniniwala sa prinsipyo mo at dahil matalino ka at bata pa. may karisma ka at ang mga pilipino ay gusto ang katulad mo na matapang at may paninindigan. sana naisip mo na na ang isang dahilan na kaya ka nanalo ay dahil sa pagkakakulong mo. nakikisimpatya and bawat ordinaryong pilino na kahit sila’y wala sa loob ng rehas ay para silang nakakulong sa hirap. nakikita ng bawat isang pilipinong mahihirap ang pagasa na lumalaban ka kahit naka nasa kulungan ka.
KAYA lang sayang at nagmadali ka… nasayang ang lahat. sana’y mabasa mo ito at gawin mo ang nrarapat base sa kultura ng ating mga pilipino na ayaw natin ng marahas na pagbabago. nakikiisa pa rin ako sa prinsipyo mo at ituloy natin ang pagbabago kaya lang ako’y naniniwala pa rin na kailangan nating sundin ang batas para sa kaayusan ng ating bayan.
December 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 am
czar matthew
log on to http://www.snap08.blogspot.com and signed for the resignation of gloria and noli.
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SIGN IN: THEN WHAT? GLORIA ARROYO, ET. AL. JUST GOING TO USED YOUR SIGN SHEET TO SWIPE THEIR BUTT. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET RID OF HER, JUST SHOOT HER WHEN SHE’S DOING HER ROUND ALL OVER THE PLACE.
December 2nd, 2007 at 8:50 am
Hey Salina,
I think it’s better for you to express your comments in Bisaya. There’s nothing wrong with it. I admire your courage and consistency. Keep it up!
Bogus - Bugos
More than that - More then that
Will do more - well do more
Continue - contenue
December 2nd, 2007 at 7:54 am
It’s not only academic credentials, its also about honesty, morality and ethics.
December 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 am
TO SALINA. BAROK, POGS AND EVERYONE WHO HAD COMMENTS IN THIS ISSUE:
THERE IS ONLY ONE DENOMINATOR IN ALMOST ALL THE COMMENTS
A R R O Y O G O V T I S C O R R U P T.
(am willing to stage a silent protest.. kung mapapwede pls join me.. let us not pay our taxes, KUKURAKUTIN LANG NAMAN NILA, PWEH!} 09189239749
December 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 am
Tingin ko tama ka pogs pero tandaan natin ang tagal na sakit na ito ng lipunan, panahon pa ni rizal buhay na ang mga sakit na ito. Ni hindi natin alam kung saan nagmula o siguro nakaimprenta na saating lahi ang sakit na to.
Gaya ng sinabi ni rizal “Kabataan ang pag-asa ng bayan” wala na talaga tayong magagawa kundi umasa na palitan o di kaya’y hindi nila tularan ang hakbang ng kanilang mga magulang.
@ salina
Hindi po isto-istoyra o kabulaan ang sinasabi na paglago ng ekonomiya, totoo ito. kaso hindi makaabot sa mamamayan kasi masyadong maliit pa ang epekto nito sa micro level. pero sa makro level nakikita natin sa paglago ng stock market, sa pananatili ng kalaksan ng piso, sa pag dating ng mga banyagang mamumuhunan, at kung anu-ano pa.
Alam mo kung sino ang naiipit, kaming taong bayan. Sige pabagsakin nyo ang pamahalaan, isama nyo na ang ekonomiya, pati dangal ng mga mamamayang pilipino ano na matitira? Lumipat na lang kaya tayo ng bansa o mag paalipin uli sa mga banyaga? Wala kayong binibigay na matibay na solusyon, konti na lang ikahihihya ko na ang pagiging pilipino.
December 2nd, 2007 at 5:44 am
I did not vote for Trillanes. But 11 million people did, and he won, ayaw man natin at hinde.
I also did not vote for GMA. But she’s now president. But did she win, fair and square?
I also do not favor Trillanes’ antics. He’s arrogant pa nga for me.
Trillanes is a senator. But the courts won’t let him attend even one regular session.
Gen. Danilo Lim, Gen. Miranda, Col. Querubin, are well-respected military officers. They were charged for a political crime. But the courts would not even listen to their legal pleas.
They remain in detention. Repeat–for a political crime.
Erap is a certified plunderer, a heinous crime against the people. But he was set free by GMA.
Independent media report abuses of the GMA administration. But Malacañang calls them “enemies of the State”.
Senate investigates the abuses. But GMA and her minions clam up.
Civil society files impeachment complaints. Congressmen dismiss the complaints. Then they go to Malacañang and get a bagful of money.
Civil society and militant groups stage rallies. But they are hosed down, truncheoned.
So, Trillanes, Lim about 25 Magdalo soldiers, and civilians Guingona, Bautista etc. go to Manila Pen. They wait, but nobody comes.
But still, GMA sends in 2,000 policemen and soldiers and five tanks. She orders one of the tanks to ram through Manila Pen, and fire indiscriminately at the hotel walls.
What is GMA so afraid of? That the Filipinos finally awaken?
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:45 am
Failed Coup Attempt by Trillianes, Lim, et al : What Went Wrong?
http://boyutal.i.ph/blogs/boyutal/2007/12/02/failed-coup-attempt-by-trillianes-lim-et-al-what-went-wrong/
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:31 am
TAMA!
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:06 am
Ilan na ba ang umasensong Pilipino na galing sa katotothanan? Ikaw bilang isang OFW, naging maganda ba ang buhay mo? OO, nga merong ilang umaasenso, pero karamihan kahit OFW hirap pa rin sa buhay. Sinong nagpapahirap as inyo, eh di mga kamag-anakan din ninyong palamunin, kayayabang nabubuhay lang pala sa padala ninyo. Dumadami and tamad na Pilipino kaliliit na nang kita ninyo anak pa kayo na anak, tapos gobierno ang sisisihin ninyo pag wala kayong makain. Bilang isang empleyado na Pilipino, sa gobyerno man o pribado, di ba pandaraya ring ang ginagawa natin.. pagnanakaw ng oras, yung ilan hindi na pumapasok sa opisina pero binabayaran pa rin… 15/30 … ang ginagawa ng mga pulitiko na panngungurakot sa pera natin ay ginagawa din natin bilang isang mamamayan at taga-pagbayad ng buwis lamang. Ikaw bilang isang estudyante ng UP or mga state universities and college, inisip mo na ba na ang pinag-aaral mo ay galing sa pera ng taong bayan. Pero anong gingawa nyo magrally, magreklamo sa konstitusyon. Sa batas na namumuno kayong nasa oposisyon sino bang nagpapatupad ng batas diba kayo eh sinong sisisihin nyo ang Pangulo? Ang bise Presidente ang mga nakaupo sa adminastrasyon, diba lumang tugtugin na yan, sana maranasan din ninyo ang paghihirap sa dinaaranas ng mga mamamayan para malaman nyo pano mabuhay ng walang pagkain sa hapag kainan, hindi makapag-aral o di man lang maranasang pumasok sa malalaking malls. At tayo bilang isang simpleng mamamayan, anong nagawa natin sa ating bayan? Ang magsalita, ang magreklamo na nagbabayad tayo ng buwis? Ang husgahan ang mga pulitiko? Pero sa sarili natin nakita ba natin ang nagawa natin sa ating bayan? Inu-una pa natin ang pagsusugal, at kung ano-anong bisyo, Ang pagbabayad sa buwis ay di sapat, ang kelangan ng ating bayan ay Pagmamahal. Pagmamahal sa sarili, pagmamahal sa bawa’t isa at Pagmamahal sa ating bayan.
Tanggalin ang sahod ng isang pulitiko, tingnan natin kung sinong tatakbo at tunay na magbibigay serbisyo sa ating bayan. I-share ng pulitiko 20% ng kanyang assets sa bayan tingnan natin kung me tatakbo pa sa eleksyon. Bawasan ang pork barrel…sino pa kaya ang matitira…ilipat ang bahay ng pangulo imbes na sa malakanyang…sa isang barung-barung…tatakbo pa kaya sila at mangarap na maging pangulo? Alisin lahat ang service cars…subukan nilang sumakay sa pedicad, jeep, bus, trycicle, FX o kalesa…magagawa kaya nila?? Bawal ang security guard…makakayanan pa kaya nilang lumabas mag-isa…O sa isang salita, mamuhay sila ng simple at ordinaryong mamamayang Pilipino, bawal VIP, kakayanin mo kaya ginoo at ginang pulitiko, nagtatanong lang po!
December 2nd, 2007 at 3:54 am
Mamili Kayo:
Antonio Trillanes
EDUCATION
• Master in Public Administration major in Public Policy and Program Management, University of the Philippines-Diliman (2000-2005)
o (2) University Scholar Awards (GPA 1.0-1.25)
o College Scholar Award (GPA 1.25-1.50)
• Philippine Military Academy, BS Naval Systems Engineering (1991 - 1995)
o Cum Laude
o Mathematics Plaque
o Physical Sciences Plaque
o Tambuli Award (Electrical/Electronics Engineering)
• BS ECE 4th Year, De La Salle University (1987 - 1991)
• High School, Angelicum School (1983 - 1987)
• Elementary, Sienna College (1975-1983)
CAREER
Military Duties
• Sea Duty:
o Acting Commanding Officer (June 1999-January 2000)
o Executive Officer (February 1999-January 2000)
o Engineering & Damage Control Officer (January 1998-February 1999)
o Deck & Gunnery Officer (May 1996-January 1998)
o Mess & Supply Officer (April 1995-May 1996)
• Shore Duty:
o Administrative/Personnel Officer (P1), HQ Patrol Force (June 1999-January 2000)
o Procurement Officer/Instructor, Naval Education & Training Command (January 2000-June 2001)
• Military Appointments and Promotions
o Promoted to LTSG; 04 Mar 02; GHQ GO # 1519 dtd 29 Dec 02
o Promoted to LTJG; 04 Mar 98; DND GO# 137 dtd 30 Jan 98
o CAD as ENSIGN ; 04 Mar 95; DND SO# 52 dtd 03 Mar 95
o Promoted to ENSIGN, 04 Mar 95; DND GO# 212 dtd 03 Mar 95
o Appointed as CADET, PMA; 01 Apr 91-04 Mar 95; DND GO# 252 dtd 01 Apr 91
AWARDS
• 23 assorted merit medals, campaign ribbons and badges
Gloria Arroyo
II. EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND:
Primary
Assumption Convent High School; 1954-1960
Secondary
Assumption Convent HS; 1960-1964; Valedictorian
Tertiary
Georgetown University, 1964-66,
AB Economics; Dean’s Lister
Assumption College, 1968, AB Economics Magna cum Laude
Post Graduate
Ateneo de Manila University, 1978,
MA Economics
UP School of Economics, 1985,
Ph.D. in Economics
III. CONCISE PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND:
Assistant Professor, Ateneo de Manila University; 1977-87
Chair, Economics Dept, Assumption College; 1984-87
Professor, UP School of Economics; 1977-87
Professor, Mary Knoll College
Professor, St. Scholastica’s College
Assistant Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry; 1987-89
Executive Director, Garments and Textile Export Board; 1988-90
Undersecretary, Department of Trade and Industry; 1989-92
Senator, 1992-1998
Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development, July 1998-October 2000
Vice President, July 1998-January 20, 2001
President, January 20, 2001-present
Other positions held:
Chairman and President, UP Health Maintenance Organization (1989-1998)
Executive Director, Philippine Center for Economic Development (1994-1998)
Chairman, UP Economic Foundation (1994-1998)
Member, Presidential Task Force on Tax and Tariff Reforms (1994-1998)
Member, Technical Working Group of the Philippine National Development Plan for the 21st Century (Committee on National Framework for Regional Development and Macroeconomics Framework for Development Financing)
IV. MEMBERSHIP IN ORGANIZATIONS (Past & Present):
Association for Philippines-China Understanding (APCU)
Philippine Economics Society
Georgetown Club of the Philippines
Concerned Women of the Philippines
V. Elective Positions Held in Specific Years:
Senator, 1992-1998
Vice President, July 1998-January 20, 2001
VI. Awards / Commendations / Citations:
Magazine, Public Eye Magazine, Trade Union Congress of the Philippines, and by Emil Jurado (Manila Standard Columnist)
Woman of the Year, Catholic Education Association of the Philippines
Ulirang Ina, Ulirang Ina Awards Committee, 13 May 2001
One of Asia’s Most Powerful Women, Asiaweek
Making a Difference for Women – Women of Distinction Award, Soroptimist International of the Philippines Region, 30 May 2003
Most Distinguished Alumna, University of the Philippines Alumni Association (UPAA), 16 June 2001
VII. Others:
Doctor of Laws degree, honoris causa, Waseda University, Japan, May 2002
Honorary Degree of Doctor of Laws, Fordham University, 21 May 2003
Honorary Community College Associate Degree in International Relations, Honoris Causa, City College of San Francisco, August 2003
Doctorate Degree in Economics, honoris causa, Tsinghua University, 30 October 2001
Degree of Doctor of Humanities (honoris causa), Mapua Institute of Technology, 29 January 2004
Doctor of Laws (honoris causa), La Trobe University, 2000
Honorary Degree of Doctor of Law, honoris causa, Old Dominion University, April 2003
Recipient of the Rockefeller Foundation Scholarship (1978-1983)
Recipient of the Japan Foundation Grant (1976-1977)
Recipient of the UPSE Fellowship (1970-1971)
December 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 am
MANNY/JOHN:
FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU, FOR LETTING ME POST IN YOUR BLOG. WHY IS IT MOST OF MY POSTING ITS BEEN DELETED. I THOUGHT PHILIPPINES IS THE DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY, WHY DELETE THEM. WHAT I POST TRUE! AND YOU KNEW IT TOO. ARE YOU GLORIA ARROYO, SUPPORTER’S? IF SO, GIVE HER ALL THE POST, I POST HERE IN YOUR BLOG. I’M NOT AFRAID WHATEVER GLORIA ARROYO, GOING TO DO. I DARE HER!
December 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 am
TO: ALL PANDAK SUPPORTER’S WHO KEEP BRAGGING ABOUT HER SO CALL BOOMING ECONOMY HA, HA! THE ONLY BOOMING I SAW IS HER/CRONIES BANK ACCOUNT. THATS WHERE YOUR TAXEPAYER’S MONEY WENT.
December 2nd, 2007 at 3:06 am
bkk
expect tomorrow’s headline will be about trillanes holing up the manila pen instead of gdp growth at 6.6% in the 3rd quarter….
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THAT’S ANOTHER LIE. GLORIA ARROYO, AND HER DREAM ECONOMIST DAW,. PAD THEIR ROSY ECONOMY JUST LIKE THEY PAD HER VOTES IN MAY 10, 2004. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION TO ENSURE HER WINNING. SO THAT SHE CAN CONTENUE SQUATTING IN HER STOLEN POWER.
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:52 am
I’ve been almost every blog in here. Ihave my own opinions on almost every situation here in the Philippines. But of course they are my opinions and opinions should be respected. I won’t try to change the minds of anyone here but I will try to express what I think and feel. First of all I do not agree with what had happend at the Manila Peninsula Hotel. Walking out of a courtroom is an act of political immaturity, something unbecoming of an elected senator, I do not agree just as I don’t agree with those who walked out of Estrada’s Impeachment Trial before. People nowadays don’t have principles but instead they only have personalities. Democracy is made a mockery of here in the Philippines. One should remember that democracy isn’t just the rule of the people or majority, it is also governed by the rule of the law. Those who violate the law and proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt should be punished within reasob. Therefore I believe that Trillanes should be punished. It is very much obvious that what they did what planned. Where did they get the uniforms, armbands and guns? It is a clear cut case of rebellion in the government. In the case of GMA’s legitimacy, during EDSA II she was sworn in as president by the Supreme Court as the lawful successor. The withdrawal of support by top goverment officials from Estrada have effectively stripped him of power, if we do not follow this premise then cory would also be an illegitimate president, therefore Ramos and Estrada are also illegitimate. We should accept that, besides those who call GMA an illegitimate president are mostly the people who put her in position in the first place. During the 2004 elections people say that GMA cheated. Again has this been proven beyond reasonable doubt? Hello Garci wiretap scandal isn’t even valid as evidence in court thus is this acceptable as an excuse? If so then all of us could be hauled everytime we caught talking to someone we trust and recorded without our knowledge. What about our right to our privacy? You can’t use the argument that Arroyo is a public figure because even public figures have a right to their own privacy. What if the wiretap is accepted as evidence? Is it proof of cheating? Have you heard the full conversation? There is nothing that says she cheated. What it says is that she wanted to win the elections and that her votes must be guarded and she wants to win by a million. What people seem to have forgotten that in 1998 the strongest opponent to Estrada during the pre-election was none other than GMA, she only agreed to run as vice-president to Jose De Venecia because she did have the machinery to campaign nationwide. Nevertheless she won more votes as vice-president than Estrada and as the saying goes, lefther opponent then Senate President Angara “in the dust”. in 1995 elections she won 1st place in the senate elections which she won with the 2nd largest margin in Phil. History, with a lead of over 3 million against the late senator Roco. So it is only logical that she can win and there should be no question about that. She was declared as president by Congress acting as the Board of Canvassers as mandated by the Constitution. People are hinding behind moral shield and behind God in their arguments against GMA. Please STOP using God in your arguments, “Thou Shall Not Take The Name of The Lord Thy God in Vain”. If divine providence wanted GMA ousted she would have a long time ago. Besides if you are religous then how do you figure FPJ dying before the election question is resolved? Isn’t it an act of GOD’s will? That GMA should remain as president? We are approaching economic progress that will make us a near tiger economy. We may not feel the progress right now but we are fast approaching it. Why if the commercials of telecom companies are true then more than 70% of Filipinos have phones. There jobs popping up everywhere. In fact there are a lot of job vacancies. The problem we actually is that the needed workforce deosn’t actually sync with the graduates. We are churning out nurses instead of churning out argricultural laborer, computer graduates, engineers, english teachers, instructors and psychologists. These are what we need right now but there aren’t enough of them. Those reading this are probably wondering why am i making these arguments? Because Trillanes and the opposition are hiding behind the arguments of poverty, moral law, GOD, the Filipino people! Every president in living memory has been demanded that they resign because we don’t like them! Enoguh is enough! Progress can only be achieved if we work hard instead of bickering and fighting as to who should be in power! No president has ever won a majority here in the Philippines in living memory! Surveys be damned! Can we actually believe that a thousand persons can represent what is actually felt? We should just put it at rest. Let GMA finish her term and let’s elect a new president in 2010. A better alternative would be to have a Parliamentary goverment. That way the Prime Minister can be changed at will. because the way things are going? We might just as vote for it instead of staging damaging “coups” and “people power” everytime we want to oust a president. I still have a lot of views. I hope that I was able to view some of them as objectively as possible even though I have my biases.
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:40 am
It would be difficult for a country to move forward if those who abuse their powers/authorities are left unpunished. They will continue on abusing the country, fulfilling their own pesonal interests, and laughing at the people (us) who were fooled. When are we people going to wake up? Let us all stand for the TRUTH and someday, IT will set us free…
Yon lang po.
And please stop calling names on anybody. It would not do us any good. It would only corrupt our degrading characters more.
December 2nd, 2007 at 1:09 am
People, let’s pray for our country especially for the best President on the Philippines Pres. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. I know she is not perfect like me, but i believe she is very intelligent, honest and strong and deserving than anyone. Let’s build our nation and stop stupidity, selfishness and non-sense movement like what happen in Manila Peninsula.
Thank you and Mabuhay.
December 2nd, 2007 at 1:08 am
Anong “pandak” pinagsasabi mo? Ang karamihan sa pilipino ay mababa at maliliit. Kung nagagalit ka wag mong isulat kung anuman pisikal na kakulangan lalot ang pinag uusapan ay sarili mong lahi. Ang presidente ay individual na pinag uusapan natin at hindi ang kalahatan ng mga mababa at pandak na mga tao na wala namang kinalaman sa pinag hihimutok mo. Nagpapatotoo lang naman na kulang ka rin sa pag iisip at at tila di mo alam kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng pag yapak sa kapwa lalot sa tingin mo na ito ay kapansanan. Samakatuwid, ikaw ay may kakulangan din na dapat mong malaman. At kung mag mamagaling ka sa taas mo ay ganon kababa ang pang unawa mo sa mga tao lalot sa buong mababang tao. LAHI NATIN ITO AT WALA KANG KARAPATANG YURAKAN KUNG ANUMAN MERON KAMING MABABANG PILIPINO.
December 1st, 2007 at 11:52 pm
[quote from Ian Velasco]: And if there is one thing that we need in this country, it’s not even morality. It’s REASON.
One of the smarter things said in this thread. When I hear or read about people saying the source of problems in this country is a MORAL one I roll my eyes in disgust. It’s a copout answer that provides NO solutions. Utterly useless tripe. Is it any wonder our country has gone next to nowhere with so many people publicly espousing such an inane belief? The biggest problem is ECONOMIC. Solve the economics and the morals will follow. How to solve the economics? Use reason and common sense. Trillanes and those who support him display an astonishing lack of any.
For example the argument that the police and army response against Trillanes was “overkill”. Plainly wrong. It was perfectly reasonable response. Swift end. No casualties. The strong show of force dissuaded any more stupidity and mitigated the negative coverage being given to our country. The government showed it was serious and hopefully the memory will make future embarassments like this less likely.
The media and their complaints about their freedoms being repressed? Junk. That they chose to stay despite being warned and given the deadline by the authorities is questionable but I’m willing to cut them some slack on that. That they whine about being arrested afterwards, however, is sickening. They made a choice and walked in with their eyes open and they should be able to live with the predictable consequences. In fact they should be thanking their lucky stars none of them were hurt and that they weren’t detained for more than a day. If not exactly happy with the police nothing I’ve heard gives them cause to be mad at them either. The police were doing their job same as the journalists and the journalists were actually making their job more difficult. Being handcuffed was too much? How about if a plotter trying to escape hid himself amongst the journalists and secreted on his person a gun and seeing he was about to be revealed and captured decided to hold the journalists he was with hostage? Unlikely maybe, but not inconceivable. Who would be held accountable in such a situation? The police and military for being too lax and not restraining them. Perfect example of the dumb WHINING WHINING WHINING we are subjected to.
December 1st, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Here we go again..
I’ve seen the news, I’ve read the sites (pati ung site nila trillanes)
It seems that trillanes has a bad combination of “crab mentality” + “paranoia”.
Its really depressing, because the private sector, the OFWs, the workforce in general (and some govt institution) is doing what it can to stabilize the economy for what? for the sake of other people? no, its for us. we work hard 5 days a week 8 hours a day to strenghten the economy, to feed our family, to pay tax (thats right folks to pay our tax), which is really needed to carry our weight in society.
And what does Sen. Trillanes know about carrying his weight in our society? His ignorance cost us curfew, panic, a sense of danger that could have been avoided. What does he know about society? does he pay tax? did he do something constructive for lets say our economy? Heck he did not even boost our morale in this so called coup attempt.
Its really sad.. people in the phillipines die of hunger, calamity and other causes, there are a hundred ways to help but he chose to be ignorant and made the wrong move.
As for the media?
wtf do you think would have happened if they got desperate? I know you guys want to be there to collect news, but still remember media men dont make news, they just cover them. You guys should have been imprisoned as accomplices, why? because with you people in there you are indirectly showing support, as in YOU GUYS have become PUPPETS of trillanes, think about it.
as for the police:
good job, you guys showed them.
To sum up this rant..
The system will not work if YOU wont make it work.
If he just waited patiently, he could have appealed the courts decision, he could have waited for GMA to make another blunder, He could have been the martyr, he could have been righteous.
In reality Im a fan of trillanes cuz hes not TraPo (traditional politian) but he became hasty, irrational and wanted to usurp power. sad to say but trillanes.. off with your head.
December 1st, 2007 at 11:38 pm
These military people ought to think first before they act…How come they’re thinking that they are the solution to a corrupt government when their organization itself is corrupt??!! Clean their own organization first.., before they clean the whole government!
Linisin mo mu na ang sarili mong bakuran bago mo linisin ang buong barangay!!
December 1st, 2007 at 1:44 pm
I think we OFW believed that GMA has to stepped down on her own, bago pa lumala ang gulo.
Alam nyo ba kung ano na lang ang natitira sa isang FAKE economist, LIAR, CHEATER, POWER GRABBER, a DICTATOR in the making (maybe worst than MARCOS) and of course a FAKE PRESIDENT para hindi siya bumaba sa pwesto- KAPAL NA LANG NG MUKHA -
Maaring tama sila, mali ang ginawa ni TRILLANES, kase po WRONG TIMING, kung noong 30 ba naman niya ginawa e di sana me impact.
Alalahanin lang lagi natin that “EVIL TRIUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING” kaya malayang malaya si PANDAK sa kanyang pinaggagawa dahil pinapanood lang natin.
Kaya kami, one thing lang, GMA baba na, pakibawasan ang kapal ng mukha, hirap na hirap na ang mga tao, sa isang PEKENG EKONOMIYA, habang patuloy na isinisigaw ni PANDAK na paganda ng paganda ang ekonomiya ng pilipinas patuloy na patuloy naman ang pagbaba ng PURCHASING POWER NG PERA NATIN, ang galing ano!!!
So we pray, na sana tuluyan ng magising si PANDAK sa kanyang mga panaginip at bumaba na lang sa pwesto, at sa ating mga PINOY ipagdasal natin si PANDAK na kurutin naman kahit konti ng sarili niyang konsensiya.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:37 pm
bondying
to trillanes(pwe!) good luck! may you enjoy your stay in your cell at mabulok ka na duon. you don’t deserve to be called senator at wag mong sabihing susuko kayo dahil ayaw ninyong madamay ang ibang tao. sumuko kayo dahil alam ninyong wala na kayong pupuntahan kung hindi sementeryo at takot kang mamatay. matapang ka lang sa harap ng tv, what have you achieved today? nothing!! if before naloloko mo ibang tao ngayon lalong nainis lang sa yo. sanay mabulok ka na sa kulungan mo!!!!
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ITS BETTER TO BE A CALL COWARD AND BE DEAD WITHOUT A FIGHT. HE CAN LIVE AND FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. THE FIGHT IS NOT OVER UNTIL IS OVER. I’M WITH YOU SENATOR TRILLANES!
December 1st, 2007 at 1:32 pm
jul
Sen. Trillanes and his group just did it because there are no other recourse available to let GMA give up…all constitutional means have been used…but unfortunately, power-drunk GMA and “mukhang perang” cohorts including the self-represented, loyal CONGRESSMAN (everytime GMA has a problem kc, they will troop to Malacanang to express their support) has blocked all means to let justice reign…
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CAN YOU REALLY BLAME THESE IDIOTS IF THEY ALL WENT TO MALACANYANG AND GET PAID FOR PROTECTING THE BOGUS PRESIDENT OF CEBU. LIKE THEY SAY, MONEY IS POWER!
December 1st, 2007 at 1:23 pm
Obviously, those people with Thrillanes during that stupid thing they did in Manila Pen are those people who wants to have “a piece of the power” that Thrillanes wants to grab from GMA.
Perhaps Thrillanes is in the wrong field, he should have been in the showbusiness instead of politics/military. He loves cameras and interviews, a very obvious attention-seeker.
The media in the philippines is getting worst everyday, they are following the inevitable pattern of the OA press in the states, only worst. The ManilaPen is a crime scene at that time, they shouldn’t be there, even without the orders from their individual companies. You’re seeing uniformed / half-uniformed soldiers with m-16 rifles and grenades and you still wanna do your cover? Why hit the military and pnp with stupid allegations that its an overkill? If the media knows better tactics with military/police operations, maybe they should take over, or otherwise, shut-the-fuck-up.
There must always be a separation between the church and the government. Why the hell does this bishop already in the coup attempt minutes after it started? Probably wants his name to go down in philippine history too. Too bad in went down to the toilet instead of the books.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:07 pm
‘dx;fs]df
Now is not the time to leave the country. That is the option of the elite who have no conscience regarding the future of the Philippines. Now is the time to buckle down and do the work that needs to be done to build a better nation for our country.
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FOR AS LONG AS GLORIA ARROYO, THE ONE IN POWER. NOTHING GOOD WELL HAPPEN TO THE SO CALL BUILDING NATION YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. BECAUSE GLORIA ARROYO, ET. AL. KEEP ROBBING THE COUNTRY COFFER.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:03 pm
bengst
It’s State assault on democracy. Why are Basilan-weary military deployed in Makati? The arrest of media - from journalists to technical crew - in a so-called democratic nation is an unnerving first. The curfew declaration without clear legal basis and guidelines puts anyone at risk.
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GLORIA ARROYO, CAN DECLARE A CURFEW OR MARTIAL LAW, OR HAVE YOU KILL AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT, BECAUSE SHE’S THE ONE IN POWER.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Just and Interesting Info:
I just want to share my experience while playing the PC game SWAT 4.
Do you know that in that game, during each SWAT missions, everyone is tied using plastic handcuffs shaped similar to a pretzel?
Even the victims and hostages are tied up. Should the player failed to tie em up, that is counted as lost points.
Interesting isn’t it? Maybe that is how they process crime scenes in the US.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Many bloggers want the rule of law being enforced. Do they know about what they are talking?
All ruling now is military and police ruling, as repressive as ever possible. The military even does not allow an elected senator to do his duties.
But what is the rule of law in the constitution? The military is clear and explicite UNDER the rule of the civilian administration. So, all those grandstanding generals, due to rule of law, would have to be arrested for violating the constitution and the rule of law. But what is the reality? They act as if they are the highest ruling power and are not responsible and accountable for anything they do. Philippine democracy…..?
December 1st, 2007 at 12:43 pm
I do not agree with what Trillanes did. However, some harp about Trillanes’ and his cohorts’ act leaving the court as a slap on the judiciary & the rule of law. Rule of law is only as good as the people who implement it. There couldn’t be rule of law if there’s no JUSTICE. No 1 is above the law, they say. What about those people in GMA’s govt who engage in unabated theivery & extrajudicial killings? What about the Fertilizer fund, Garci, NBN corruption scandal? Ano T.Y. nalang? Walang accountability? Are they exempted from prosecution? You can’t have selective prosecution (of only Trillanes & his group) & say there’s rule of law without prosecuting the GMA & her cronies. What is good for the goose is also good for the gander. If Philippine leaders serve in the U.S., most of them would have been in jail already. Equal protection of the law mandates protection of the people not only from acts of Trillanes but criminal acts of ALL PEOPLE INCLUDING THOSE IN GOVT!
December 1st, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Magdiwang
Walang mapapala ang pagtatago sa hotel. Mukhang nasasanay na si Mr. Magdalo sa pagtago sa hotel. Kung gusto mo makatulong, tulungan mo na lang yung mga Sumilao farmers. Kawawa naman, ipinagkait sa kanila ang lupang nararapat sa kanila ng mga kapitalista.
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IF SENATOR TRILLANES, BE GIVEN THE OPPORNUTY TO DO HIS DUTY AS SENATOR, HE CAN DO MORE THEN THAT. BUT HE WASN’T GIVEN THAT OPPORNUTY BECAUSE HIS GETTING ROTTING IN JAIL. WHICH IS GLORIA ARROYO, THE ONE SHOULD BE ROT IN JAIL FOR WHAT SHE DID. IF THIS IS NOT A CORRUPT JUSTICE SYSTEM. I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS……
December 1st, 2007 at 12:27 pm
i mean “not jeopardize”
December 1st, 2007 at 12:25 pm
guys, no matter who sits in that mighty office there are always people who will try to bring them down. that is how politics works in our country. as a countrymen, we should be rational and judicious enough in electing people into public office so that we wouldn’t look risible in the eyes of the world. by staging a coup in a five star hotel at the heart of our business district is a preposterous action of despair. few of our people are just mislead by their idiotic policy. we had toppled to corrupt leaders in the past, hadn’t we learned lesson out of that. the same cyle will happen if we keep on electing same quality of people to run our country. a change can only be achieved if want a real change. by not voting based in their popularity but by their credibility and their vision for our nation is one simple thing we can do as a mere countrymen.
i don’t agree with the people that keep on calling the public to get out on the streets without a conspicous objective, they are just misleading the public of what is really happening, few of them bought the idea but majority of us were not.
our country is a nation of laws and it must be enforced to its full extent.a public official in his right mind will jeopardize the image of our nation they know how to set an example. but with this is just another ludicrous episode in our country on top all the other.
sana marunong na tayong mag bigay respeto sa ating bansa. we are just wasting what our heroes were fighting for.
Mabuhay po tayong lahat and God bless the Philippines.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Wow, how stupid are some bloggers, or just not even knowing about what they are blogging.
What Trillanes and his comrades did was nothing more than to use an opportunity to speak out their grievance and disappointment to the world. They did it publicly, open, contrary to all those who claim to think like them but are too cowardish to stand up for it.
A coup plot? What an idiotic thinking. Can 30 men start a coup or rebellion? Blaming them for not fighting it out with the police? Also idiotic. How they should fight, with their coffee spoons of the Peninsula?
Maybe what they did was useless because of hose cowards that also want to change the administration but are not brave enough to tell it openly. The fact is, they tell their anger to pollsters where they remain hidden but Trillanes and his men, useless or not, at least DID something, not caring the consequences they will have to suffer.
Did all his critics forget that GMA has been open admitting that she, together with generals, FVR, the big Sin and big business, plotted against a duly elected Erap already more than a year before the impeachment show? That GMA was telling she support Erap up to the end of his term because he was fair elected, but at the same time she worked all she could do against him? That her oath has been very clear as “acting president” but later the acting was not there anymore, even it has been recorded and viewed worldwide? What if Erap would have arrested all of that plotters and put to jail as “destabilizers”? By the way, how stable is a government that needs near anything to declare as destabilization?
Blaming Trillanes that he did not do as senator for what he has been elected? How stupid, can you do anything if you are not allowed to do what 11 million voters wanted you to do? 11 million votes do not count much in RP if they are critical to GMA.
Remember that congressman jailed for rape who has been able to remodel the jail into his comfortable residence, earning years long his salary without to attend any session? Or that movie actor, sentenced to more than 20 years but allowed to make millions by making a movie inside the jail? And who then enjoyed the friendship of politicians who even changed the laws and sentences for to let him go out? Compare this to what a duly elected senator Trillanes is allowed.
Lastly to all those who cry about damages to the economy and the “strong Peso”:
Of what rosy economy are you talkng? Where is it? So rosy that more and more Filipinos say they are poor, more and more need to work abroad for to be able to maintain their families?
And a strong Peso? Why it comes that the stronger the Peso became, the less purchase power it has in its own country RP? Why all those goods which are imported with the now cheap Dollar are prmanent increasing in Pesos? A simple example: White imported onions have been sold for 40 Pesos per kilo when the Dollar has been 54 Pesos. Now, with the strong Peso, one kilo is more than 100 Pesos or 150% increase. Using GMA mathematics, this matches the official inflation rate of about because this math says “zeroes are nothing, so eliminate them” and then it is only 15% which easy can be ignored by the general rating.
The OFWs cry that their remittances are losing value because of the Dollar rate to the Peso. But instead of now sending the currencies of their host countries, and if ever possible not through the phil. banking system, they try to send more Dollars. And then wonder if CB says that the rate will go more down because of Dollar oversupply.
Of course, the Dollar will go up again, like he did before already, and then CB and those who can afford to buy and hold Dollars will make a killing windfall profit, at the expenses of the OFW families now. Or do anyone think the CB would still buy billions of Dollars if expecting it would only create a permanent loss?
The funny thing is, the weak Dollar has practically the same purchase power in its own counry USA while the “strong Peso” is worth less and less in its own country RP. Probably because of the “rosy economy” and the super economist in Malacanang. In the rest of the world, countries devaluate their currencies to become more competitive, like now the USA where exports start to boom with the cheapr Dollar, creating then more jobs and therefore more tax income. In RP, the economy is boosted by making local products more expensive for export, tourism more expensive, investing more expensive and additional by creating more and more non-working days. The rest of the world must really be thumb….
December 1st, 2007 at 11:52 am
whoever said it could not have been more right, “those who forget the follies of the past are doomed to repeat it.” yeah trillanes et al are pathetic examples of people who refuse to learn from the lessons of the past.. oakwood incident was a ppffffftttt, then now comes this pitiable peninsula hotel caper that went resoundingly into a bigger ppppffffffffffffffffftttt right smack to their faces.. willingly wallowing in shit were these people in the sunset of their political careers, people who failed to tend to the spiritual needs of their flock and instead opted to lap to the heels of wolves, people who thirst for bigger news but presenting the same in the light of their own politics, and people who tried wave at people to join their sorry cause reaping only blank and i-have-better-things-to-do stares..
the principal actors in this caper were supposed military men supposedly educated in the country’s premiere military academy.. sayang ang gastos ng gobyerno sa inyo!!!!! what a putdown.. these people obviously did not put much importance to the lessons from history.. rashness and charismatic machismo may earn you the admiration of action-movies-oriented people for sometime.. and this admiration would have given these putchists a delusional sense of infallibility in evrything they do, only to realize later that the people who used to look up to them are capable of thinking straight too..
its ironic that trillanes and his cohorts were already hard up rising from the hole they created for themselves from their oakwood caper, its dazzles the imagination when they desired to create a deeper hole at the peninsula hotel thinking its the easier way out. DUMB!!!
an opinion writer from the inquirer once said, “intelligence is a rare commodity in the armed forces intelligence.” now i am really tempted to believe wholesale….
December 1st, 2007 at 11:16 am
ang kapal talaga ng mukha ni gloria.
pag ako nandiyan sa tabi niya , itinulak ko na.
December 1st, 2007 at 11:12 am
Bobo na kung yun tawag mo, matalino kayo pero di nyo pa rin makita o nagbubulagbulagan lang kayo! 7% growth. stronger peso yada yada. Tanong ko bakit tumataas bilang ng mga nagugutom? kalokohan yang growth na yan kung iilan lang ang makikinabang! siguro nga syang lang panahon ko sa pag-post dito sa blog na ito. pero di ko lang masikmura ilan sa inyo sobrang makasarili. Wala na nang pag-asa itong bansang pilipinas.
December 1st, 2007 at 11:09 am
Hey Lito, if you don’t know basic economics about peso appreciation please don’t comment. You are making fun of yourself.
The economy started to grow only in 2007 because the first few years of the GMA administration was housekeeping to correct all the wrong policy inherited from the Erap Administration. It takes at least five years for ordinary people to feel the improvement based on correct policies. That’s why ordinary Filipinos will feel it after the GMA adminsitration. It’s like setting up a business where in the first three years you cannot earn money yet.
What Erap did was to subsidize everthing that’s why the budget deficit skyrocketed to uncontrollable level. Interest rates went up, the peso depreciated and foreign concessionaire stopped transacting with philippine companies. He did it without balancing the budget that’s why he was kicked out.
To Salina and Lito, you will eat your words come 2009.
December 1st, 2007 at 10:52 am
Arroyo is showing the filipino people how bright she is. She is corrupt but she knows how not to get caught.See what happened to Erap, nagpahuli sya. Sina Trillanes naman, mahilig sa mga hotels. Is it psychological? Sana ang hinuli ni Trillanes ay si Arroyo, mga senador, mga congressmen para siya na ang presidente. Wala naman magagawa ang mga pilipino kasi sawa na. The mediamen also are the biggest reklamador. They don’t give us straight news but only their opinions. Kung kanino kampi, yung ang tama. Pag pinatay naman magrereklamo. Dapat alam nila na being in media is dangerous kasi ang mga mediamen ay mga sindikato rin na nabibili.
December 1st, 2007 at 10:17 am
It just shows, too much democracy will not work in a country like ours. Halu halo na kasi tau, lahat gustong pakialaman. Why not leave politics to politicians, religion to priest and bishops, etc. Parang trabaho lang yan, kung doktor ka, hindi ka puedeng maging abugado. Wala na tau sa ayos. Problema kasi sa atin, pag may gusto tau at hindi napagbigyan, nagrerebelde. We reap what we sow, nagbenta kau ng boto niyo sa mga congressman niyo, wala kayo ngayung impeachment, so ang mabuting gawin natin, magtrabaho na lang tau and wait until 2010, sana naman maliwanagan na tau ng isipan by that time.
December 1st, 2007 at 9:45 am
maaaring mali ang pamamaraan ni trillianes pero palagay ko ganyan talaga ang dapat gawin sa isang gov’t na sobrang corrupt at ruthless. dapat nga gayahin na ng mga galit kay gloria yun pamamaraan na ginawa noonpanahon ni marcos…bumuo ng Light-a- Fire movement.
December 1st, 2007 at 9:44 am
paano naman niya magagather ang masa eh inuna ang pasosyal kesa sa sinasabing pagbabago? Hello, Manila Pen? Pangmayaman yan. Kung sa barong-barong areas niya ginawa yun, baka naging matagumpay pa siya
December 1st, 2007 at 9:24 am
eh p*tris naman, saan ba naman kasi yang Manila Pen na yan, hndi namin papunta ang daan dyan, kung alam lang namin eh di lumusob na sana kami dyan,,,kung sana sa Sta-Ana or San Lazaro Hippodrome lang sana nagmartsa si Trilanes eh di marami pang sumama,langya naman eh di talo na naman tayo,,,,0-2 na si Trillanes,,,si Gloria 100-0 pa rin,,,tsk tsk tsk…AYAW NAMIN SA MGA PALAGING TALUNAN DAHIL SA KAMANGMANGAN, TRILLANES SHOULD BE DIED BY MUSKETRY!!!…(sorry for wrng english) yun lang po!
December 1st, 2007 at 8:51 am
bobo naman ni mai,blme opec dahil sa mataas na presyo ng gas! E kung di bumaba ang $ e di mas mataas pa ang gas. At bakit bumaba ang $,kasi strong ang peso and it is one of the best performing currencies right now. Economic wise, para maramdaman ng mahihirap ang ginhawa,kailangan ng 10-12% growth sa economy. E ngayon nasa 6% na tapos guguluhin ni trillanes e di imbis tumaas e di balik na naman tayo sa bagsak so pano maachievev-ang 12%growth kung may nanggugulo. At ano ba gusto nyo,mawala agad ang corruption overnight? Ano si trillanes magician?! E yung isang europian country it took them 30yrs to eradicate totally corruption. Yung pinagmamalaki nyong trillanes wala naman combat experience yan e eng lakas ng loob na magsalita tungkol sa mga namamatay na sundalo! Such a liar, and land grabber pa. Corruption is everywhere,baka yung mga nagdadrive diyan na nagcocomment e naglalagay sa pulis pag nahuli para wag umabsent sa trabaho tapos lakas ng loob na ,agcomment sa si arroyo ang corrupt!
December 1st, 2007 at 8:39 am
For a coup plot to work, one will need 2 essential ingredients working together. First, is the military back up. Second, and more important, THE SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE. We should learn from the lessons of history. The fact that EDSA 1 and 2 succeeded in comparison with EDSA 3 was because of these 2 factors working hand in hand.
The Filipino people have spoken! They do not want to involve themselves in any unnecessary putsch! And for what? To put another corrupt official in power? We have a lot of those brimming in government and a lot more waiting in the wings!
Trillanes should rethink his position. His Messianic Complex will not change the value and ways of the entire Filipino people. It takes more than sheer guts and media mileage to do this. Change should start from each one of us. I guess to those bloggers who sympathize with this person, you had your chance. You should have marched in the streets with him and heeded his call to troop to Manila Peninsula. I agree with JDV and his “moral revolution”; but obviously, it should start WITH HIM!
The other thing is that media is crying foul over this whole hullabaloo. They were advised every now and then to vacate the premises so appropriate military actions can be undertaken. They disregarded the call and stayed put so that they can “continue to serve and carry out their noble objective of ferreting out what is true” I say it isn’t so! The fact that they were requested every now and then to vacate the premises constituted a serious obstruction to an obviously police matter. Media cannot always invoke the freedom of speech above anything else! The peoples’ rights are also being curtailed. Yet, they depict themselves as unsung heroes just doing their noble jobs. This double standard of justice is not doing any good either.
December 1st, 2007 at 8:20 am
nagpapadala kc xa sa init ng ulo… wlang mbuting planong ginawa kaya ang nangyari, it seems to be useless. much worse, it affects the business day..
alam namin na pinaglalaban niya ay tama.. pro lhat ng bagay ay di makukuha ng bilis at tapang.. nasa magandang plano at timing ang lahat ng bagay..
December 1st, 2007 at 4:49 am
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU DR. HENRY!
December 1st, 2007 at 4:44 am
“PRAYER” CAN MOVE MOUNTAINS.
WHY NOT TRY THAT FELLOW CITIZENS OF THE PHILIPPINES ,INSTEAD, OF POINTING YOUR FINGERS TO HER, ACCUSING HER LOTS OF ANOMALIES.
I’D RATHER HAVE HER REINED THE COUNTRY , THAN A DROP OUT STUDENT.
i STILL DO BELIEVE THAT OUR BELOVED COUNTRY NOW, ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK .
KEEP COOL AND DON’T WORRY, BE HAPPY!
.
December 1st, 2007 at 4:32 am
Trillanes vs GMA
11/29/07
Posted under Philippine politics, Rule of law
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MANNY/JOHN: ACTUALLY THE FIGHT IS AGAINST GLORIA ARROYO, AND THE FILIPINO PEOPLE.
RULE OF LAW? THERE IS NO SUCH THING IN THE PHILIPPINES, BECAUSE IF THERE IS GLORIA ARROYO, SHOULD BE THE ONE IN JAIL FOR ALL THE CRIME SHE COMMITTED.
IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THERE IS RULE OF LAW; IN THE PHILIPPINES, THEN PROVE IT. AND THROW THE BOGUS PRESIDENT OF CEBU GLORIA ARROYO, IN JAIL WHERE SHE BELONG. THANK YOU! SALINA
December 1st, 2007 at 4:31 am
i dont understand what the philippine people want….a revolution or two during every presidential term?
not EVERYONE can be satisifed by those in power. no one political team can right all the ills of a country. the best anyone can do is to try and move the country forward and even though i do not fully support GMA, at least she is doing so economically.
in the US, people are always complaining about Bush but you dont see revolutions occuring. In England, they complained about Blair and no revolutions. In any country, there are always those dissatisified with the government, but in the ‘civilized’ world, you argue and make change through legal means which trillanes could have done but instead chose not to. Why are the philippine people so gung-ho on revolution?
I agree with all those above who said each must do their part in nation building. i dont believe violence is the answer. one can oly imagine where this country would have been without any of these attempts to destabilize the government.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:27 am
To the Trillanes Critics:
To say that Trillanes is stupid is moronic. To say that Trillanes was unorganized is accurate. To say that Trillanes is wrong to Surrender because he did not want a single blood to be shed is way beyond stupidity.
Had Trillanes fought the PNP and Army, and many innocent people died… I can bet your idiotic nincompoop empty little minds that you would be blaming him for the deaths of innocent people.
What Trillanes did was right. He may have lost the battle.. but the war is not yet over.
I can’t believe these dolts who support GMA despite her corruption and the plunderous acts of her cronies. Gimme a friggin’ break and use your brains! The ZTE scandal, the 500k pesos handouts.. do you think that came from nowhere? GMA is a conniving little corrupt politician and she is very smart. She is using some of Marcos’ playbook by bribing the PNP, Military Generals, and her cohorts in both the house and the senate.
You dolts claim that our economy is growing? True.. it is.. but is the life of the typical filipino (I’m not even going to bring up our poor kababayans) improving? The rich are getting richer you dolts! Open your eyes and your brains. GMA’s economic plan only caters to the rich. Her reason that every filipino should sacrifice for the economic growth of our country is a total lie. The only sector that have seen economic growth are the big businesses and the wealthy.
GMA is corrupt to the core.. and her cohorts, including her greedy husband and son Mikey.
GMA will do everything in her power to hold onto the presidency. Can’t you see how power hungry she is? She talked about infrastructure development but have you seen any SIGNIFICANT improvements in our infracstructure especially in the provinces?
You would have to be an unbelievably idiotic turd not to know that the GMA administration is corrupt to the core.. or perhaps you are just turning a blind eye.
I do agree that she still has her supporters but they support her because they also benefit from her.. directly or indirectly. Even Marcos had his supporters. Heck, even Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Lenin had their supporters… so it is of no surprise that Arroyo is still supported by many.
Trillanes should have been more organized. I am sure that there is another group who is organizing a coup.. and this time it will succeed.
To those idiots who suffers from amnesia, did they already forget that the two bloodless coup we had was also an act of adventure? The only difference with Trillanes’ attempt is his was unorganized.
To those who accused of Trillanes as being a coward… I didn’t see anyone of them in front of the Manila Penn protesting Trillanes’ adventure. They all sat on their asses in front of the computer and denounce him as being a coward. These are what you called armchair idiots, lol
December 1st, 2007 at 2:46 am
rolan
i’m sorry to disagree with you salina… hindi ganitong klase ng bayani ang hinahangaan ko,,, ang taong may matibay na pinaglalaban, ay nakikipagpatayan,,, hindi naduduwag at sumusuko… ayokong makiisa sa mga duwag at nagtatago sa saya ng mediamen
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I DIDN’T ASK YOU OR ANYBODY TO AGREE WITH ME, FOR SOMETHING WHAT I BELIEVE,. THAT SENATOR: TRILLANESS & CO. ARE FIGHTING FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE.
WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE I RESPECT THAT. AMEN:
December 1st, 2007 at 2:41 am
Rizal Mercado
Ang bangis ng batas ay dapat ipataw sa grupo ng walang kunsensyang grupo ni Trillanes. Ang payapang araw ay sinira at binasag ng kanilang grupo kabilang ang mga paring Katoliko, dalawang abugado, si Guingona at iba pa. Ang kanilang mga paliwanag ay hindi katanggap-tanggap at di makatwiran at di naayon sa batas kung kayat walang sumama upang magbigay ng suporta. Di ko lang lubos maisip kung bakit ang isang taong hindi mn lamang maipahayag ang kanyang sarili ng maliwanag at lohiko ay nanalo bilang senador.
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IF THERE IS RULE OF LAW; IN THE PHILIPPINES GLORIA ARROYO, SHOULD BE THE ONE IN JAIL.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:35 am
George
Ang mga galit lang naman kay Gloria ay yung mga tamad at bobo. Wala na kayong pagasang umasenso..
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I’M MAKING MORE MONEY THEN GLORIA ARROYO, IS THAT MEAN I’M STUPID? BELAT MO.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:28 am
Sayang ang boto ko kay Trillanes, kahit siya ang last among the senators na binoto ko. I didn’t heed to my hunch - that he likes to be the new Gringo. He could have built a good image as an incarcerated senator. In two years time, he could use “his poor state” to gain sympathy votes during the 2010 election. But no, he is in a hurry! He made a mess during his BBC interview and he messed some more. Sabi nya he’s doing it for the poor! How ironical! Bakit sa isang five-star hotel siya nagloko? Sana doon na sa Tondo at sumabay siya doon sa mga binayarang “rallyists” para mas kapanipaniwala ang kanyang pro-poor pronouncements! Tsk…tsk…tsk… No wonder Gringo distances from him…Now, even the opposition can ONLY repeat what have been said about Gloria’s administration but NEVER support his methods! Why? Because if such rogue militarymen are supported in toppling a government, the next president, who will surely come from the ranks of the opposition, will suffer the same fate from another “trillanes”!
December 1st, 2007 at 2:26 am
Kabayan
An interesting event transpired while all these were happening. While Senator Trillanes and General Lim were at Manila Peninsula showing their disgust at the Gloria administration (and with very good reason), the stock market shot up plus 41 points. Incidentally during the Congressional bomb blast, the stock market also rose shortly after the event.
My analysis on this would be either:
a) Political crisis in the Philippines is completely divorced from economics. Meaning that whatever happens in the political scene whether it be protests, sudden change of government etc., the economy of the Philippines would steadily chug along irrespective of things happening in the political scene.
…or it may be…
b) The businessmen are actually happy that these events happen to the administration and similar incidents actually RAISE the stock market. In other words dire events that happen against what many perceive to be a corrupt administration is actually believed to be a good thing. It seems that when people see that an individual or group shouts out or move AGAINST this corrupt status quo in governance, it is considered to be a POSITIVE signal.
Whichever of the two may be the reason for this phenomenon, it is best for the corrupt, inept but powerful who control the Yes Men of the armed forces just to serve their selfish ends, should heed this signal. Economics is not tied to Politics or if it is indicators show that Economy grows when corrupt Politics is being hit; corruption is indeed the MAIN thing preventing us from going forward economically and the administration can not use the reason that those who rail against them hurt the economy. The stock market being an indicator, it GROWS when the corrupt in power are being severely challenged just as what happened today and in the Batasan blast.
The jaw dropping conclusion is … A voice against corruption is a push towards a better economy.
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ANSWER TO YOUR THEORY. THE STOCK MARKET/CURRENCY SHOULD BE DOWN. BUT, DIDN’T THAT IS BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE CONTROLING IT. JUST LIKE WHEN GLORIA ARROYO, BRAGG ABOUT HER SO CALL BOOMING ECONOMY. TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS HER SO CALL BOOMING ECONOMY NOTHING BUT A LIE. BECAUSE SHE PAD IT JUST LIKE SHE PAD HER VOTES IN MAY 10, 2004. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION TO ENSURE HER WINNING AGAINST FERNANDO POE, JR.
WHY DO YOU THINK JUAN DE LA CRUZ CAN’T FEEL THE SO CALL BOOMING ECONOMY GLORIA ARROYO, HAS BEEN BRAGGING. ITS A LIE!!! AND WE ALL KNEW IT. REASON? SO THAT THEY CAN CONTENUE BORROWING MONEY FROM WOLRD BANK, AND OTHER COUNTRY. THESE BANK BE SO STUPID TO FALL FOR THIS TRICK.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:08 am
i have a lot to say about this incident and it would be too long to fit here so i will just summarize it in a list:
1) what if trillanes is a GMA stooge? have you thought about that to make GMA look good.
2) a lot of you are falling for the media hype that this is a coup attempt. a real coup attempt would be to take GMA out of the picture by sequestering her or her seat of power. this incident is just a case of someone inciting people to withdraw support. note a coup attempt uses force while this one uses the media. different roads to the same end.
3) the oakwood mutiny made trillanes a senator. if you think about it, what if this is his attempt to run for president!
4) definitely the governments response was an overkill. in other countries where civilians are involved, all means of assuring the safety of civilians are made before the last option of force is made. had any civilian been hurt or died in the process trillanes would not be the one to blame. it was the government who forced the issue without exhausting all possible means. had trillanes been gungho this incident could have been the downfall of GMA. (that is why there is a possibility that trillanes is a GMA stooge)
5) you people see only the bad thing in violence because you are living on the OFW remittances (directly or indirectly). life and nature is full of violence and we humans are a result of that struggle for survival. we gripe about things we should be enjoying yet the lot of you dont have the guts or the will to fight for these things. Human rights is not a God given gift. it is something you fight for. we are blessed with the freedom we do enjoy today because of the martyrs that shed blood for us. if Jesus was said to have sacrificed his life so that we may have eternal life, millions of martyrs have suffered even greater punishments so that we should enjoy today relative peace and security.
5) what the filipinos need is a good war to wake us into reality. we cant be saved by our easy go lucky nature bahala na attitude. to suffer as others have done we may yet treasure the good things in life and be more tolerant of what other people think or do. be more vigilant to protect our rights when it is trampled on and be more honest, more disciplined, more respectful and in return be respected by others. a lot of us suffer from the daily grind of poverty, natural calamities and of simply living with no real direction. misguided as some people may be, we have to at least marvel that they have the guts to do what they did. do you have any guts at all? ask yourself that.
6) THIS IS ONE BIG EXAGGERATION! on the part of trillanes and his group, on the part of media and on the part of the government. everyone is making too much of a small thing. listen to the stock market. at least they’ve read it right to them this is just a blip. a non-incident. (sorry for manila pen that blip cost them 3M on that day alone no thanks to the government troops. hey they cant charge that on trillanes it was them who rammed a simba inside manila pen)
… more sana pero that’s it for now.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:55 am
Malinaw naman na walang sumama sa kanila kundi yung mga dati nang maiingay na personalidad na may personal na galit kay GMA.
Di daw sila aalis dun sa Manila Pen…kasi nga nag-aantay sila ng iba pang mga mauutong uto-uto. E kaso walang nagpa-uto. Kaya ayun…isang tear gas pa lang surrender na kuno para walang masaktan. Ayaw kamo nilang masaktan. Sagana lang sa porma tiklop din pala ang mga bayag. Belat!
Di bale, sa mga susunod na mga araw, makikita na naman nyo ang idolo nyo sa harap ng kamera. Pustahan tayo, puro katapangan at kabayanihan na naman niya ang ikukuwento niya sa inyo.
Eto tip ko sa inyo, wag na kayo gumawa ng anumang karahasan. Wala na namang magandang legacy si GMA na maisusulat pa sa kasaysayan ng Pilipinas. History will judge her administration for all its faults including corruption of the highest magnitude.
Manhid na ang taong-bayan sa katotohanan na lahat ng kasalukuyang pulitiko natin, maliit man o malaki, lahat sila magnanakaw.
Ang Diyos na ang bahalang magbigay sa kanilang lahat ng divine judgment.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:50 am
You may like what Trillanes did or not, but at least he DID something, very contrary to all the cowards who claim to srongly dislike the GMA administration but are afraid of any possible risc.
Now, police and military are lauded for their senseless overreaction, but why? What is their heroism in assaulting and arresting 30 people that are not in possession of even a bolo, since they came from the court hearing?
If really there are that many people who want GMA ousted as they reported their disagreement to the several polls, where they are to also openly express their demands, like Trillanes did? He may not be the choice for being a president, but at least he is not such a coward.
So, why the Malacanang residents are so afraid that, despite their anyway huge Security units they need to hole in behind barbed wire, electric fence, containers, armored vehicles and a Manila which is near separated from the rest of RP by cordons of checkpoints and barreers? It never has been like this even during Marcos’ martial law.
Then, about economic progress and the strong Peso. What economic progress? Why then more and more people need to go abroad for working to be able to maintain their families? And a strong Peso? Very funny, the “stronger” the Peso is, the less purchase power it has in RP. And ironically, those products which are imported with now cheap Dollars are going up and up, while logically they should become cheaper in Pesos. In reality, it is nothing than a big robbery with OFWs and their families as main victims. But there it is the same, instead of stopping feeding CB with cheap Dollars and sending their local currencies of the host country, they just send more. And then wonder if CB tells the rate will go down more because of oversupply with Dollars.
Of course, the Dollar will go up again, like before already, and then CB and those who can afford to hold Dollars, will make enorm profits. Or what you think why CB is still buying billions of Dollars? Really not for to make losses with a currency which becomes more and more and ultimately worthless. And too, the so very weak Dollar has still near the same purchase power in its own country USA, very contrary to the “strong Peso” in the Philippines.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:37 am
George
Ang mga galit lang naman kay Gloria ay yung mga tamad at bobo. Wala na kayong pagasang umasenso..
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YOU THINK SO? WELL I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU, 75 MILLION OF US GALIT KAY GLORIA ARROYO, NG DAHIL SHE’S CORRUPT. LIAR, CHEATER.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:33 am
you love your politics too much, why don’t you put your effort into something that makes your country proud.
by the way, our group creates, develop, build and maintain the software that runs a fully automated US steel plant, 3 out of 8 members of the group are filipinos.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:16 am
ayen and barthy
wag natin panghinayangan ang Boto natin kay Senator Trillanes dahil ang Boto natin ay sinusuklian niya ng sakripisyo niya na e-voice out ang mga hinanakit natin sa Administrasyon.
maraming salamat Senator Trillanes sa mga pagsasakripisyo niyo para sa bayang naghihirap.
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YES! WHEN HE RUN FOR SENATOR HE SAID IF HE WINS HIS GOING TO TRY TO KICK GLORIA ARROYO. ELEVEN MILLION’S VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE WE BELIEVE ON WHAT HIS FIGHTING FOR. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASON WHY GLORIA ARROYO, WON’T LET HIM OUT FROM JAIL EVEN THOUGH HE WON AS SENATOR BECAUSE SHE’S AFRAID TO GET KICK OUT FROM HER STOLEN POWER.
SENATOR TRILLANES, DON’T EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO DO HIS DUTY AS SENATOR BECAUSE HIS GETTING ROTTEN IN JAIL. WHICH IS GLORIA ARROYO, SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT SHE DID.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:44 am
Kung umatras man si Sen. Trillanes & co., hindi yon kaduwagan o kabobohan. In the first place hindi naman laban o pagdanak ng dugo ang gusto nila mangyari db???
Those who voted for Sen. Triallanes, u all should be thankful kse he is brave enough to voice out what you really want for our government. Unlike the other politician, pangako lang, daldal ng daldal while seeking for your vote, then after all…. bye bye voters… sariling kapakanan na ang inuuna.
GANON BA KALAKI TAO SI TRILLANES para magpadala ng sangkatutak na sundalo sa manila pen ang gobyerno???
right people, it was an OVER REACTION…
Sino nman kya ang tutugon sa tawag ni Trillanes eh alam naman ng lahat na we have a VIOLENT PGMA!!! Sukdulan pagpapatayin lahat ng pupunta dun wag lang mapalayas sa pwesto ang sakim na presidente!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
hoy gising
You hypocrites!!! after enjoying the so called freedom from Marcos’ tyranny this is what you say about Trillanes? and what would you morons call what Ramos, Enrile and Gringo did? that resulted in EDSA isn’t it adventurism also? You hypocrites!!! Kayo kasi puro lang satsat! I admire these people because they walk the walk. Sad to say we have very few who will.
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I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHO YOU’RE CALLING HYPOCRITES! BUT I’VE SUPPORTED SENATOR TRILLANES, & CO. FOR WHAT THEY DID. THEY’RE ONLY FIGHTING FOR WHAT IS RIGHT BECAUSE NOBODY HAVE THE GUTS TO STAND TO THIS BUGOS PRESIDENT OF CEBU. I FEEL SAD THEY DIDN’T SUCCEEDED. KNOWING ESPERON, BOG BOG SARADO SI SENATOR TRILLANES.
November 30th, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Not even 0.01% of the ELEVEN million Filipinos that voted for Trillanes came to his support.
The senate should order for a recount so that the senator will know, once and for all, how many really voted for him.
November 30th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
Hahahaha! This blog is fun. Dapat forum na ito kesa blog. At least now I know may mga progresibo’t may sapat na talinong mga Pilipino who know what is right and wrong. See? Sa mga masyadong negative dyan, as long as may nag-iisip na Pilipino, may pag asa. And too much naman yung mga statements na “this country will never progress (or something to that effect).” Dude, two more years and GMA’s out. Hindi naman siya nagpapatakbo ng buhay mo. IKAW ang nagpapatakbo ng buhay mo.
Politicians change. They change parties, positions, advocacies, ideologies, loyalties but one thing remains in the Philippine political equation: US, THE PEOPLE. Just like what happened, it’s us who all decided that Trillanes’ new revolt will fail. Because we decided not to support it. And for those who said and who will say that they support Trillanes, I’d say that just like your demagogue, you had no balls to go there.
(Sayang nga e, I was too late. My placard was ready. Mag-ra-rally na ako sa harap ng Pen saying “FUCK YOU MAN. YOU’RE GOING TO RUIN MY DATE.” And those who’ll say this is trivial a concern for me, multiply this a thousand times for all the people whose daily lives (plans, meetings, even a Wedding that took months to prepare) were affected and it isnt trivial at all.)
Anyway, as I was saying, it’s us who remains the same. If we change as a people, in our beliefs and practices, sa pag-uugali natin sa pang-araw-araw, then change will start from where it matters most. Diba? It’s us who have been electing the same old trapos, over and over and over again. And those who will say they had no choice? It’s because you didnt offer yourself as the choice. Power still rests on us, we decide who will be popular or not. If the media is biased, it’s because we dont stop from consuming their shit. And nobody ever demanded the media to be responsible. May nakita na ba kayong nag-rally sa harap ng ABS-CBN or GMA for fair reporting? Wala pa naman a. Kasi everyone is decided to be mum about it.
(This blog is for us, for our entertainment. Inquirer is just making us feel that they are considering our opinions. But they’re not. Never did. They’d still report in angle that shapes and aligns the people’s opinion alongside theirs. Coming from the movie V for Vendetta, High Chancellor sways people’s thinking through the media. Who controls the media, controls the people. Kaya it’s also through media that V launched his revolution. And who controls the media here? That, my friend, is the curious question.)
We, as a people (majority), havent changed. We want order and progress and yet matapos ang mga rally, kamusta ang hitsura ng lugar? Diba ang kalat-kalat? How dare you ask to trash laws and officials. You cant even throw your own trash.
Yung mga sumisigaw ng rebolusyon diyan, patunayan niyo. Nasan ang rebolusyon sa mga bahay at buhay niyo? Mabait ka bang anak sa magulong at mga ka-anak mo? May matino ka bang trabaho? Nag-aral ka ba ng mahusay? Maayos, malinis ba mga bahay niyo? Moral ba kayong mamuhay? Pananalita nga lang, hindi niyo pa ma-ayos. (Anong sabi mo? “e-voice out?” Simpleng bagay lang, hindi pa ayusin.) Pa-plastic niyo.
Why dont we heed what an ad says? “If I cant be the light, let me be the spark.”
And if there is one thing that we need in this country, it’s not even morality. It’s REASON. We need reasonable and reasoned men and women who make rational choices. We need people who know what to do (versus those who feel what to do. Hihingi kayo ng authority change pero hindi niyo sinasabi what to do next. Pano naman yon? Parang yung simbahan, blessing daw sangkaterbang anak kahit walang mapakain. Mga pari ba magpapakin don? Di naman).
We need reason and we’re here in this situation because we lack it.
To quote again from V:
“How did this happen? Who’s to blame? Well certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told…if you’re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.”
November 30th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Walk the Walk, you say?
Ang tapang magsalita ni Trillanes nung press conference, Eh nung nagpasabog na nang tear gas at nilusob na sila, ang bilis naman sumuko. Walk the walk ba tawag sa ganyan?
An he has the gal to say that he was surrendering so that innocent lives will not be affected? Sus, in the first place, he shouldn’t have done what he did in Manila Pen if he didn’t want anyone to get hurt. He should have acted like a Senator of the Philippines and not as some junior-grade soldier brandishing a macho image.
Well, lahat tayo damay dito, binoto natin kasi yan na Senador eh. Kawawang Pilipinas. We got what we deserved.
November 30th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
bengst, come on men, the media were taken as a standard procedure. It is only in the Philiippines where the media is bullish on their opinion. Kung hindi sa media ngayon, hindi sana ganun ang nangyari. In situations like those, all are brought to the police station for debriefing. I think even the US has that procedure. Ang media kasi masyadong influential dito, they can swing opinions when they want it to be. Our mediamen should me educated about police procedures before they attack.
November 30th, 2007 at 9:23 pm
to those who keep on harping the line that those who yearns for peace are gma cohorts, you are wrong! give us a roadmap to follow. what is your plan of action, after change of leadership? nothing! look at that coup plotter, palpak na naman, kasi walang plano eh. na-tear gas lang, atras na. ni ayaw mainitan ng araw, gusto sa mga 5-star hotel!
pls. lang, stop using magdalo as your group name….the katipuneros did not die just so you can use their name in vain, ok? wala kayong K.
sa mga pari….stop politicking, that is not your calling.
to the press….you have chosen to remain inside the hotel after calls for you to evacuate…then you will cry foul if you are hauled to bagong diwa? don’t you know the law about obstruction of justice? the police cannot execute their plans because you are in their midst, ang kulit nyo.
haven’t you noticed how they do it in the states? cordoned off lahat yung area, the press is off-limits, may assigned area sila to cover. dito, masyadong ma-papel ang press. then, if they are tear-gassed, may reklamo! sometimes,you think about why marcos closed down abs-cbn before? hmm. abusive? there is no such thing as absolute freedom. freedom has a corresponding responsiblity….
we do not burn people at stake nowadays…dark ages lang yun. if someone likes to, mauna na siya, together w/ your “hotel-hopper idols”.
November 30th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
sipen
tuloy ang laban ng “magdalo”……..
Salina
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
YES, TULOY ANG LABAN
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saan…….
eh di sa hotel crame………
he….he…he…..
November 30th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
hoy gising, kung meron kang planong matalo ang 7%GDP growth natin makikinig ako sa makaluma mong people power. Kung mapapataas mo pa ang peso to P30=$1
puwede na rin.. Wala kayong plano para pabutihin ang ekonomiya na sanay bumubuti na kung walang mga gustong sila ang mamahala..
Ikaw rin Salina gusto kung marinig kung paano mo mapapayaman ang Pilipinas na katulad ng Singapore, hindi puro protesta..
Wala na kayong suporta, dahil ang Pinoy ay TUMATALINO na!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
tama na yung pagsasabi na we support trillanes, akala tuloy niya marami kayo kaya na coup na naman siya at sinabi ‘come and join us’………..
NASAAN KAYO NG KAILANGAN KAYO NG IDOL NIYO………..
puntahan ninyo ang idol ninyo sa hotel crame at doon ituloy ang laban……..
baka naman nandaya sa election yung mama, baka 11 million flying voters ang bomoto para sa kanya……….
naawa ako sa kanyang kabobohan lalo na sa mga diehard fans niya na patuloy na niloloko ni trillanes……….
imulat ang inyong mga mata, hindi pa huli, kaya ninyo yan, itakwil si trillanes at kanyang ambisyong maging presidente sa marahas na pamamaraan…….
November 30th, 2007 at 8:39 pm
kawawa na naman ang sambayanan Pilipino gawa ng napa-kahusay na senador(???) nang-u-uto na naman, sinamahan pa ng gusto (???) mag presidente, e, wala na basa na ang pag-katao at mga pari, Mr. Reyes, kung mag-hunger strike ka di mo na dapat ipinapaalam, di ba??? wag kang parang paraseo, ipinapa-alam ang pag-a-ayuno.
November 30th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
I was making money yesterday riding my stock positions higher on a global rebound in the financial markets but then that irritating idiot Trillanes crawled out from the hole he was banished to and lost me some dough. Why do people support such morons?
Oh that’s right, our country is supposedly a mess, the growth we are seeing is an illusion, common people aren’t getting better off…yada yada yada. For those uneducated people out there without capital I feel sympathy. I presume, however, those of you reading this with your internet connections are educated and for you there is no excuse. So what I’m seeing is a lot of childish WHINING. If you use your brain and your skills you can find ways to make money. The opportunities are there. GMA is a good president believe it or not. The people complaining here should stop being losers blaming everything on everyone else. Life is hard, life is hard, life is hard is the mantra. Please. When was the last time you heard people in the Philippines saying life was easy? It was worse before. You’d probably rather live here than most places in Africa or Asia.
Hypocrites? Yeah there are hypocrites here hoy gising. You’re one of them!
November 30th, 2007 at 8:12 pm
george
Ang mga galit lang naman kay Gloria ay yung mga tamad at bobo. Wala na kayong pagasang umasenso..
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sad to say assensyado na ako at hindi ako bobo. siguro kaya ka umasenso meron ka rin bang 200 kay mam ? hehehehehe
November 30th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
My last comment!
To all Trillanes Supporters!
Where were you when he was calling, in fact begging for people power support? Kung bumuhos kayo sa Makati noong oras na mga iyon baka si Trilllanes na ang Presidente ngayon. Eh palibhasa kasing duwag din kayo ng idolo nyo na mahilig lang sa dada, hayun, nakita tuloy sa TV kung paano bitbitin sa pantalon si Trillanes para ipasok sa bus. Next time, huwag sa blog kayo tumapang kungdi sa kalye. Kaya nandidyan pa si GMA kasi mga tanga lahat ng kalaban nya. GMA has got “balls” kesehodang sino masasagasaan. Yan ang presidente.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Imagine he was elected senator fair and square eh nagpagamit pa din. BOBO na DUWAg PA.
Sayang talaga, most senators spent at least 300 million pesos just to win and he won. TANGA TANGA TANGA. kung nagisip ka lang ba?
Magkano ba ibinigay sa inyo at yung mga taga islang bato na supporters nyo daw eh 200 pesos bawat isa baka sa inyo isang libong piso. HA HA HA HA
November 30th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Binoto ko trillanes dahil guapo. Kaya lang parang tumanda na sya at di na masyadong dignified. Sana pumasok na lang sya sa bahay ni Kuya. Nung lakad sya ng lakad at kinukunan ng press parang nasa bahay na ni kuya sya.
Iboto ko pa rin sya pogi talaga ehhh!
November 30th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Whoa there everybody, please stop all these hysterics. As a poet had once said, ‘Much ado over nothing.’ A senator of the land making a stroll along Makati streets, enter a big hotel, probably to have some coffee, and some announcement which almost 50% of the Filipino people agreeing with. What’s the big deal about this?
November 30th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
To All Trillanes supporters: Can’t you see that this is all a power grab? If GMA is ousted, d you think the next one sitting down will not steal? Open your eyes, Yes we know GMA is corrupt and stealing , at least she’s doing something for the country. She is stealing in a way that other leaders do in 1st world countries, kickbacks in business deal, and not by pocketing the actual money of the government.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Anyone who takes up the presidency will steal. Poverty will always be there. No one in the Philippines will join politics to serve honestly period. I support GMA even though she steals, but at least she’s doing something positive to the economy. Also, this is the reason why nobody supported ERAP. He stole but never did anything for the economy.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
I USED TO ADMIRE SEN. TRILLANES FOR HIS IDEALISM AND BRAVERY. HOWEVER, I AM UTTERLY DISGUSTED THAT HE DID NOT FIGHT IT OUT AT THE PEN. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HEROIC OF HIM TO DIE FIGHTING WITH THE REST OF HIS MEN AND SOME OF HIS FRIENDS LIKE THE OLD VP, THE AGEING BISHOP AND LAWYERS. IT WILL BE IDEAL IF MANY OF THE JOURNALIST PERISH IN THE CROSSFIRE SO THAT PROPER REWARDS FOR JOURNALISM EXCELLENCE WILL HAVE MANY CANDIDATES. SAYANG NA SAYANG.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
ATONG I-AMPO ANG ATONG MGA KADAGKOAN SA SIMBAHAN, MGA TAWO NGA NAWALA ANG PAGSALIG SA SISTEMA SA ATONG PANGOBYERNO, UG NGA UNTA MAGTINABANGAY SA MATAG USAG USA NGA ANG ATONG PILIPINAS MAHIBALIK NA NGADTO SA KATUNHAYAN NGA KALINAW.
I-AMPO USAB NATO KADTONG MGA TAWO NGA NANGHIMARAOT SA IYANG ISIGKATAWO.
DUNGGA ANG AMONG PANGAMUYO GINUO UG UBAN SA INTERCESSION NI MAMA MARY. HINAUT PA UNTA.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:05 pm
Tonio at boboman: Tagalugin na lang inyo ang mga comments. Huwaag na kayong mag-English. Halata ang kabobohan niyo!
November 30th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
GOD BLESS YOU GLORIA!! MAY HE ALWAYS ABIDE YOU ALL THE WAY THROUGH.. OUR BELOVED COUNTRY WILL RISE AND SHINE AGAIN.
I DO BELIEVE THAT GOD IS ON YOUR SIDE.
LET THEM MOCKED, SAY FILTHY WORDS AGAINST YOU , BUT KEEP ON GOING… ONE DAY, THEY WILL REALIZED …. THAT THEY’RE WRONG.
I WILL PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY AND TO OUR COUNTRYMEN AND MOST ESPECIALLY TO OUR CHURCH LEADERS WHO JOINED THESE SOCALLED ” MUTINY”
GOD BLESS US ALL!
November 30th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
People be civil. Shrillness won’t get us anywhere.
November 30th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
I think it’s about time that our police showed their muscle. What the police did was right, expecting that media will endlessly ngak-ngak anyway, coz they have the microphones and their jobs. Tama din yung curfew, at least for lat night, i slept peacefully dahil wlang maingay na tricycle at mga magnanakaw a hatinggabi. Go Trillanes! Go die for this country if you like. Wag mo na lang kaming idamay sa utak mong pulbora!
November 30th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT!!!! MY VOTE FOR TRILLANES IS A REAL DISAPPOINTMENT…
JAIL HIM!!! AND NO PARDON PLEASE.
November 30th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
MR. TRILLANES,
Kung totoong SERYOSO po kayo na mapaunlad ang ating bayan, sana po ay gumawa kayo ng solusyon imbes na maging bahagi sa mga problema.
Alam ko pong kayo ay isang sundalo at kayo ay sanay sa dahas at gulo. Ngunit hindi po solusyon ang dahas. Ang dahas ay nagbubunga ng galit. At ang galit ay nagbubunga din ng dahas. Ito ay magiging isang gulong, paulit-ulit.
Kung talagang MAHAL po ninyo ang mga Pilipino, huwag na po ninyong dagdagan ang kanilang problema.
Ang ginawa po ninyo kahapon ay nakapagdulot ng hindi maganda sa mga ORDINARYONG TAO. Please…huwag po ninyong idamay ang mga ordinaryong tao na walang ibang hangad kundi ang maghanap-buhay. Kung inyo pong pag-ninilay-nilayan ang inyong mga ginagawa, lalo lamang po ninyong pinapapangit ang imahe ng ating bayan.
Kung ano mang kaginha-wa-an ang tinatamasa nga bansa ngayon, sa aminin mo man at sa hindi, NAKIKINABANG ka rin, pati na ang inyong pamilya.
Kung inyo pong ipagpapatuloy ang paghahasik ng gulo, mamamatay po ang negosyo. Kapag wala ng negosyo, wala na pong mga trabaho. Kapag wala ng trabaho, tataas ang krimen sapagkat wala ng ma-ayos na kabuhayan ang tao. Kapag walang trabaho, wala na ring mabuting edukasyon. Kapag walang mabuting edukasyon, mahihiga tayong lahat sa kahirapan. Siguro, maswerte po kayo sapagkat kayo ay sikat na. At may pera pa. Paano nalang po ang mga ordinaryong tao na nawalan ng trabaho dahil sa ginawa niyo?
Sana hindi na po kayo mag-padala sa inyong emosyon. Gamitin po sana ninyo ang inyong talino sa mabuti. Gumawa po kayo ng mga hakbang na karapat-dapat sa isang senador. Tulungan po ninyo ang mga mahihirap sa pamamagitan ng mga proyektong makapagbibigay sa kanila ng HANAPBUHAY.
Kapag nabigyan mo ng hanapbuhay ang mga tao, na-ibigay mo na rin sa kanila ang DIGNIDAD.
Turuan po ninyo ang mga kabataan na maging MAHINAHON. Kayo po sana ay maging mabuting HALIMBAWA.
Hindi po ninyo mababago ang bansa kung hindi po muna ninyo baguhin ang inyong sarili. Magsimula po kayo sa inyong SARILI, sa inyong pamilya, at sa inyong baranggay. Kapag nagawa mo iyon ng mabuti, ito ay magiging daan sa ganap na pagbabago ng ating bansa.
Umaasa po ako na pakikinggan ninyo ang panawagang ito.
November 30th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
gelatin, is that what Bravery means to you? tear gas pa lang at warning shots sumiksik na sa mga mediamen…
HELLLOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
Brave enough! I salute your courage and patiotism. I understand why the group had drastically decided to siege manila pen-just testing the water(this time it proves that people power is no longer effective-next move will be direct attempt, which Malacanang should worry about)…Mabuhay tayo BAYAN-open your horizon we deserved a better leadership which is not corrupt!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
To those who say that Trillanes have no balls, I couldn’t help but wonder if these “brave bloggers” themselves have the balls to say that in front of him with no police around?
On another note, what is the administration now really saying? “…The rule of the CORRUPT must prevail !”
November 30th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
payag ako na sa kahit anong paraan, mapatalsik lang ang mga arroyo sa malakanyang. sa sandamakmak na katarantadohang nangyayari sa bansa, hwag sabihin ng iba diyan na di dapat palitan si gma. you don’t have to look far to know the mess this country is in, and it is all because of the kind of fucking “leaders” that we have. di da pay la matay amin!! bwisit!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
after all the blah, blah, blah. the sad truth remains, corrupt gloria still prevail. sayang, if i coud be given a chance, i’ll spit on her face. galit na galit na ako.
patuloy ang laban, magdalo!
November 30th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Ano ba naman tong blog na to…ang bagal ng upload ng mga posts…
hindi sa nagrerklamo ako pero nawawala ang momentum ng mainit na diskusyon hehehehe
peace john & manolo
November 30th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
when will they open the bar at midnight????this is the fault of gma, no more nightlife!!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Why do these individuals always say….para sa bayan!..para sa Filipino!….their actions already showed the are not???…They aren’t clamoring for a change for us Filipinos….only for themselves…Huwag tayong magpapagamit sa maling para-an para makamtan ang pagbabago…
November 30th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
walang dapat sisihin kundi sarili natin , tinanggal natin si Marcos, sinong pinalit natin, at ang inalalagay natin n matino pinapalitab natin ..at ngayon.. so isipin ntin ito…magsikap n lang tayo..choose the less evil…tayong pinoy sadyang reklamador..ang korea, japan at ibang kapit bahay ntin n bansa mahirap noon…ito ang nangyari s atin puro tayo rekalmo!!!..sisihin mo sarili mo bago ang iba…MAGSIKAP N LANG TAYO!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
3 out-of 5 filipinos want the president to resign, based on a recent survey. These “3″ simply don’t know what to do e except watch and work perhaps.
Which is worse, doing something (wrong out of frustration) or doing nothing…
I was about to join the call call for PGMA’s resignation. Maybe the guns made it all too scary for most, for a rally… and simply bad coordination.
My only want, is a little bit of decency in our gov’t.
I was for Erap’s ouster, now i want PGMA out. I just dont know how to help & get this done.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
You hypocrites!!! after enjoying the so called freedom from Marcos’ tyranny this is what you say about Trillanes? and what would you morons call what Ramos, Enrile and Gringo did? that resulted in EDSA isn’t it adventurism also? You hypocrites!!! Kayo kasi puro lang satsat! I admire these people because they walk the walk. Sad to say we have very few who will.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
The event that happened only showed how issues are exaggerated; exaggerated for ambition for power. When Trillanes joined politics, that was it, very obvious, he was for power and not for the people. And he used paid media to promote him because no way a politician would win an election in Philippines without it.
Bragging with 11 million voters who gave him the Senate seat, even after months in a decent prison, he once again instigated a mutiny, hoping that the 11 million voters would back him up. But these voters are smart. And Trillanes got them wrong. He was placed in the Senate to represent them of their miseries and do something about it in the Senate and not in hotels; to debate for them on the floor not in the streets. But after all the blunders that he made, now it’s making clear to these voters who Trillanes is. His appetite for power proves the rebellious soldier that he is. He is just hiding behind the principles of Katipunan. It is clear from the history that Katipuneros wanted revolution for reforms, and not just to oust Spain from the country. This is where Trillanes have missed. He was not after for genuine reforms. He is merely after for GMA’s eviction, to relieve him of his rebellion case.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
That’s what hollywood movies bring to the general public, a misconception, an escape from reality. Trillanes seems disoriented of what’s a fantasy and reality, he’s demonstrating a sort of moviegoer’s hang over, and he’s got followers like some of the commentators here! Hello mga kids, gising na kayo, this is the real world where you need to put table on your family’s plate!
November 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
KAWAWA NAMAN SI CAPT. TRILLANES, I WON’T BE SURPRISE IF HIS BLACK AND BLUE FROM BEATING. FROM THIS CORRUPT AFP. ITS TIME TO UNITE AND FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND JUST.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
sipen
tuloy ang laban ng “magdalo”……..
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
YES, TULOY ANG LABAN. AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KICK GLORIA ARROYO, NO NEED TO COME TO MANILA AND PROTEST, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PROTEST AT YOUR HOME TOWN TOGETHER WITH THE REST OF CITY IN THE PHILIPPINES. ESPECIALLY IF GLORIA ARROYO, GOING AROUND GO WHERE SHE’S AND PROTEST. JUST LIKE WHAT OTHER COUNTRY IS DOING. PRETTY SOON HER BUGOS REGIME WILL FALL TO THE GROUND.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Trillanes has shown that he is incompetent. I saw him on BBC and he was fumbling. Do we really need more incompetent leaders throwing themselves at us? Wetting their pants just to lead us to “a promised land”? Please. The Philippine government is far from perfect but at least it works and it leads. The opposition can go on yakking but wait for the next election to get your turn at the kaban ng bayan.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Sa tingin ba ninyo meron pang constitutional means para mapaalis si Arroyo? Halos lahat ng mambabatas ay sa payroll ng Malacanang.
The only way is another people power!
November 30th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
I’m reading the various comments and it makes me feel so sad. Pinoy vs. Pinoy and it’s really not going anywhere.
Eleven million plus votes for Trillanes. A duly elected Senator and he is in the slammer; is not allowed to attend senate sessions; and, not allowed to speak on behalf of those who voted for him. Where is democracy in this scenario?
The Oakwood mutiny (”kuno”) occurred in 2003. It’s now 2007. Another month and it will be 2008. Limang taon na… where’s the justice?
November 30th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
the philippines is like our mess hall in ksa. when my british officemate visited us, he exclaimed, “what a mess!”. ‘bat kya ang hlig nating mag “self-destruct”. well, sabi nga “bilog ang mungo.”
November 30th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
boboman
Salina, you’re sick. Wake up and quit lambasting the president. It won’t help in anyway. Just help in nation-building.
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Yes, I’m sick and tired of this bugos President of cebu. Yes,. I’m sick and tired with the people who keep supporting this corrupt regime of Gloria Arroyo.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
i feel sorry for sen.Trillanes, yes i support the MAGDALLO’s aim for the AFP to reform but not the ways. he should have waited for GMA to end her term and probably he could get his freedom. i voted for the senator but what he did today put our country’s economy down the toilet. we should expect that the philippine peso to go down.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Trillanes is so stupid!
November 30th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
wag natin panghinayangan ang Boto natin kay Senator Trillanes dahil ang Boto natin ay sinusuklian niya ng sakripisyo niya na e-voice out ang mga hinanakit natin sa Administrasyon.
maraming salamat Senator Trillanes sa mga pagsasakripisyo niyo para sa bayang naghihirap.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
alam nyo bang akoy naguguluhan sa mga comments nyo ?????????????????????????? basta ako walang say sa mga sinasabi nyo..ako dito .kaun ra jud ko sige junkfoods kay ako concern sa mga tawong nga walay mudo.maluoy man gud ko kay hapit na na silang tanan kuhaun sa ginooo……mabuhay ang mga tawong walang modu .okey lang sa amin na mga mamayan sapagkat hapit na man sad mo mangamatay!!!!!!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Mabuhay ka Senator Trillanes,
Kung walang katulad mo hindi namin nalalaman ng husto ang mga anomalyang ginagawa ng Administrasyon…Tama kayo na palitan na at sobra na..
We always pray for you…
November 30th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
A big shame on Trillanes and his cohorts! This latest escapade truly shows him to be grossly irresponsible, reckless and stupid. He offers himself as an alternative to GMA but what has he really done to deserve so? He has never done anything concrete and positive to improve the lives of the people kung hindi manggulo lang. Klaro naman talaga na sariling interes lang ang motibo sa mga actions nya.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Ang mga galit lang naman kay Gloria ay yung mga tamad at bobo. Wala na kayong pagasang umasenso..
November 30th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
Gumaganda na ang ekonomiya ng Pilipinas may mga tanga pa ring gustong manggulo..
Maghanap na lang kayo ng trabaho, at hindi uubra yung panggugulo ninyo. Ang typical Pinoy ay gusto lang kumita, wala na silang pakialam sa pulitika, Ang gusto nang tao katahimikan at kumita.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
MSYADO NG MRAMI MGA2LING,PWEEE…PURO NMAN DALDAL!!MABA2 N PGTINGIN NA
STIN KLPIT NTIN BANSA.KMI MGA OFW
BYANI???PAGUWI K SABON ABOT NYO.
MAGTRABAHO N NGA KAU? FR JEL SINGAFLOR
November 30th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
Nakakalungkot lang na madaming tangang Filipino ang naniniwala pa rin kay Gloria, we need someone as brave as Antonio Trillanes IV who is willing to sacrifice his life in favor of the truth against the corruption of the Arroyo regime.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
What GMA and her dumb and equally greedy minions including those who express favor for her in this blog should be burned at the stake. Your fake president if not giving lip-service and lying is robbing the government and the Filipino people. She has done nothing else for this country than become a bad example. She is a liar, a killer, a whore. Her greed, it appears could only be quenched by more lying and more killings. Antonio Trillanes et. al bears the fire of truth to burn you all to insignificant ashes.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
grabe itong mga taong ito. sana tumulong na lang sila sa pag unlad ng pilipinas at hindi ang manggulo. ikulong ang pari ant ang dating bise. sana ibalik na rin si erap sa kulungan.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Para naman po sa ating mga mamamahayag,
Sana po maintindihan ninyo na may mga pagkakataon na ang ‘freedom of the press’ ay pumapangalawa lamang sa ‘national interest.’
Huwag po sana ninyong kutya-in kaagad ang ginawa ng ating mga pulis kahapon. Nag-bigay po sila ng warning sa inyo na lumabas upang ma-isagawa nila ang kanilang tungkulin na tapusin ang kaguluhan. Pero ang iba sa inyo ay nagmatigas ng ulo. Sapagkat wala na pong oras, at upang hindi na lumala pa ang sitwasyon, kina-ilangang gawin yon nga mga pulis. Kung nakinig lamang kayo, hindi na sana hahantong sa ganung pangyayari.
Kayo po ay may tungkulin na magbalita, at ang pamahalaan din po ay may tungkulin na pangalaga-an ang ating bayan laban sa mga suwail. Sana po hindi kayo maging makasarili. Sana po tulungan ninyo ang pamahalaan sa pamamagitan ng pag-pansin sa mga mabubuti nitong nagawa. After all, tayo, tayong lahat, ay ang bumubuo ng pamahalaan. Tayo ang pamahalaan.
November 30th, 2007 at 11:59 am
Mr. Trillanes, kung talagang seryoso kayo na mapaunlad ang ating bayan, gumawa po kayo
ng solusyon imbes na maging bahagi ng problema. Bago po ninyo baguhin ang bayan,
pls…baguhin po muna ninyo ang inyong sarili.
Alam ko pong sundalo kayo at kayo ay sanay sa dahas at gulo, ngunit ang dahas po ay hindi po solusyon. Ito ang magbubunga din ng dahas. Sa ginawa mo kahapon, pinahirapan mo ang mga ordinaryong tao. Kung totoong mahal mo sila, magtrabaho po kayo ng maayos, trabaho na dapat sa isang senador at hindi sa isang sundalo. Sa ngayon, ang ekonomiya ng ating bansa ay patuloy ang pagbuti, at ang iyong mga anak ay makikinabang nito. Kung itong pag-unlad ay sirain mo, sino ang kawawa? Taong bayan parin, kasama na ang mga anak mo. Huwag po ninyong hayaan na lalong pumangit ang pangalan ng ating bayan. Gumawa po kayo ng mga mabubuting hakbang. Huwag po kayong magpapadala sa inyong emosyon. Gamitin po ninyo ang inyong talino sa mabuti. Isa sa mga proyektong ma-i-papayo ko sa iyo ay ang pagpanukala ng batas na makapagbibigay nag hanapbuhay sa ating mga mamamayan gaya ng pagpapahiram ng kapital pang-negosyo or di kaya trabaho. Pag binigyan mo ang mga tao nga trabaho o hanapbuhay, binibigay mo din sa kanila ang dignidad. Dapat ganyan ang isang senador.
Sana po maliwanagan kayo.
November 30th, 2007 at 8:52 am
I pity fugitive trillanes for doing this absurd thing since he won as a senator fair and square. He’s such a bobo that he knew that he is only being used by politicans with vested interest. Or maybe he’s just paying his debt to his sponsors. Sayang, I believe his principles. RUle of Law must prevail and lets help this nation prosper.
He’s also duwag tear gas lang sumuko na.
November 30th, 2007 at 8:42 am
Sana pinanindigan na lang nina Tirllanes at Lim yong ginawa nila para matapos na si Gloria. Tuloy ngayon parang si GMA pa at ang knayang mga corrupt na kampon and bida.
November 30th, 2007 at 8:32 am
Itong Trillanis na ito kung talagang tunay ang kanyang hangarin na mag silbi sa bansang Pinas, he can still make a differance by feeding and helping the poor in Tondo at sa iba pang Squater area sa Pinas. Uhaw din siguro sa Power yan kaya ganun ang ginawa para mapansin. Nasa position na siya wherein he can help those who are in need of help. Baka yung pagsabog din sa Glorieta meron din siyang alam doon. You can only right the wrong (GMA) by making right not by making another wrong.
November 30th, 2007 at 8:30 am
An interesting event transpired while all these were happening. While Senator Trillanes and General Lim were at Manila Peninsula showing their disgust at the Gloria administration (and with very good reason), the stock market shot up plus 41 points. Incidentally during the Congressional bomb blast, the stock market also rose shortly after the event.
My analysis on this would be either:
a) Political crisis in the Philippines is completely divorced from economics. Meaning that whatever happens in the political scene whether it be protests, sudden change of government etc., the economy of the Philippines would steadily chug along irrespective of things happening in the political scene.
…or it may be…
b) The businessmen are actually happy that these events happen to the administration and similar incidents actually RAISE the stock market. In other words dire events that happen against what many perceive to be a corrupt administration is actually believed to be a good thing. It seems that when people see that an individual or group shouts out or move AGAINST this corrupt status quo in governance, it is considered to be a POSITIVE signal.
Whichever of the two may be the reason for this phenomenon, it is best for the corrupt, inept but powerful who control the Yes Men of the armed forces just to serve their selfish ends, should heed this signal. Economics is not tied to Politics or if it is indicators show that Economy grows when corrupt Politics is being hit; corruption is indeed the MAIN thing preventing us from going forward economically and the administration can not use the reason that those who rail against them hurt the economy. The stock market being an indicator, it GROWS when the corrupt in power are being severely challenged just as what happened today and in the Batasan blast.
The jaw dropping conclusion is … A voice against corruption is a push towards a better economy.
November 30th, 2007 at 8:21 am
nakakahiya talaga yung trillanis na yan. dumating pa dito sa australia ang balita. kung ayaw niya kay gma di makigdebate siya doon. ipalabas niya ang kanyang nalalaman. bobo talaga wala sigurong utak yun. mas lalo nang napektohan ang bansa natin.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:53 am
To say that Trillanes represents the frustration of some of the Filipino people is both true and false. True, because some (like Trillanes and Company) violate the law to survive: killers, kidnappers, robbers, holduppers, etc. False, because majority (the sane ones) would still adhere to the law and have respect for the duly constitued authorities.
Still, funny, because I couldn’t believe Trillanes, a PMAer, would succumb to few teargas bombs!
And finally, jittery, because everytime Trillanes and Company do a coup d’circus the economy suffers. Don’t support people who turn out to be the real jinks to the Filipino people!
November 30th, 2007 at 7:49 am
And there’s your messengers from God, bishops meddling with politics. Did Jesus told them to create Chaos? Bishop pa naman…
November 30th, 2007 at 7:48 am
terrorista talaga si trillanes, handa na namang pumatay at mag hasik ng lagim matupad lang ang sariling ambisyon……..
‘gloria or pagbabago’, U*L*O*L gusto mo lang maging presidente……..
nasaan na ang 11 million boto mo, ‘come and join us’, wala na sila, natauhan na na ikaw ay isang huwad………
‘I am your protector’, kulang ka lang sa pansin……..
tagagawa ng batas ang senador, hindi tagalabag……..
non violent daw sila, eh bakit may mga baril sila……
ilang pamilya at buhay na naman ang sinira mo, na niloko mong sumama sa iyo…….
‘hindi kami aalis dito’, wala kang B*A*Y*A*G, akala ko handa kang mamatay sa iyong ipinaglalaban………
oakwood, manila pen, ano ang susunod sa iyong hotel hopping………
gusto mo lagi sa hotel kasi malamig, cozy ang place, hindi pa man ay gusto mo ng magpasarap……….
wala ka naman karisma, isinama mo pa ang walang kabuhayhay na guingona, hay naku, B*O*B*O……….
respeto/sympatya ng taong bayan ay hindi nakukuha sa pagcocoup but by actions, ikaw ano na ba nagawa mo para sa amin………
sarili mo hindi mo kayang ilusot sa mga kaso, lakas naman ang loob mong sabihing protector ka ng taong bayan…….
bigyan kita ng tip para naman gumanda ang papel mo sa buhay, gayahin mo si gandi, ninoy at iba pa, mag self sacrifice ka, mag hunger strike ka………
hanggang mamatay……….
November 30th, 2007 at 7:48 am
ok lang na hinde ako nakabili ng balot sa paborito kong tindero. ang hinde kanais nais ay ang pagbibigay ng curfew. kakarampot na nga kinikita ng naghihirap nating mamamayan aalisan pa sila ng karapatang maghanap buhay ng isang gabi. walang mangyayari sa bansang ito hanggang nakaupo pa si Arroyo at walang mga tao na katulad ni Trillanes na handang lumaban sa huwad na pamamalakad. this country is made by the likes of jose rizal, gregorio delpilar, the common juan dela cruz who stood up, took the beating and fought and died for what they believed for. long live the magdalo group.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:48 am
To jhun..what to you mean by people starving because of them? if these people would have worked hard and not wait for the government’s help then they can eat. Ang problema kasi sa mga taong katulad ninyo, palaging umaasa. Poverty cannot be eradicated overnight. Puro kayo rally, Gloria resign,wla naman kayong nagawang maganda kundi gumawa nang gulo. Mga utak putik
November 30th, 2007 at 7:32 am
The Manila Pen standoff is one of the delaying tactics of mutineer Sen. Trillanes on his trial. It is a waste of time just like what they did in Oakwood. And to think they are causing economic problems to the country for they are doing it in the finance capital of the Philippines. What the heck? We can’t unite if Trillanes like will do the same thing again and again. Hey, why don’t you wait for your turn to run the country and will see if you can really do what’s expected of you… Ahh!!! Or maybe you’ll do the worse thing…
November 30th, 2007 at 7:25 am
Sayang naman ang boto ng mga Filipino Nurses sayo… lalo mo lang kaming pinahihirapan.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:24 am
Kawawang juan dela cruz …hanggang kailan pa tayo magtitiis sa ganitong klaseng pamamalakad ng mga magnanakaw at opportunistang politiko.At mga busog na heneral na siyang nagpapaikot kay GMA.
Tama ka jun s there’s worst fate waiting for GMA and his minions…. WEATHER WEATHER LANG YAN kabayan.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:21 am
Vote na!
http://www.pinoybigbriber.com/index.php
November 30th, 2007 at 7:16 am
Kayong mga nasa media, kailan pa ba kayo titino? Maging responsable naman kayo sa mga kinikilos ninyo. Ang Freedom of the Press ay may responsibilidad at hindi lisensiya upang gawin ang kahit anong gugustuhin. Kung may nabaril sa inyo, sino ang may kasalanan? Hindi ba kayo rin? Ang Press Card ay hindi hihinto ng bala. Tama lang na hakutin kayo, kasama ng magdalo. Mga pasaway kasi kayo. Kayo ang rason kung bakit lumakas ang loob ni Trillanes at Lim upang maging istupido at bobo. Sayang ang mga pinagaralan ninyo. Gawin ninyo ang kinilos ninyo sa Baghdad, malamang lahat kayo nasa morgue ngayon.Magisipisip naman kayo ng tama at hindi puro ratings lamang.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:03 am
Barok, tama ka. Lahat ng ayaw dito sa Pinas gaya ni Salina, Jojo, Jhun, Sipen at Jaya, ayain na ninyo si Guinogona, Alcuaz, yang running priest na yan at mga obispong hangad maging politiko at umalis na kayo sa bansang ito. Sa Spratlys na lang kaya silamamuhay. Huwag na ninyong idamay kaming nananahimik dito at kumakayod kahit papaano. Tama, mahirap ang buhay pero hwag kayong pasaway upang lalong pahirapan ang Pinoy. At si Trillanes at Lim, manahimik na nga kayo. Tapos na boksing, ratrat pa kayo ng ratrat.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:02 am
Nakakatawa yung commenter mo, Mr. Nery. Ang daming nickname, iisa ang IP address. Hahaha! Pareho ng address nung mga nanggugulo sa http://www.ellentordesillas.com!
November 30th, 2007 at 6:58 am
The Philippines no longer has the ability to cope up with its present economic and political downfall. I remember Dick Gordon before urged us OFWs and filipinos working abroad to go back home and invest/work. I’d say F@&% him, who’s he trying to fool? The reason why Im longing to go back to the Philippines is because of my family and friends, not to work there and have my hard-earned tax money being eaten away by hungry and greedy politicians. As for those people who continue to follow our local politicians, f%&#@ you…the only way to get us out in this god-forsaken sinkhole is revolution!
November 30th, 2007 at 6:49 am
To get more arrest from the Trillanes revolt, a curfew was imposed by mrs. arroyo as requested by her ill-advised advisers is ILLEGAL!
November 30th, 2007 at 6:43 am
Fritz on Trillanes:”Hes not helping our country to progress…”
- Well, neither does GMA… Trillanes is wrong but don’t blame him. What Trillanes did was totally unnecessary, but it is also unavoidable… it is the inevitable consequence of the continued refusal of GMA to address her legitimacy problems…
November 30th, 2007 at 6:36 am
No. There is always hope. We’ve gone through worse than this. I’m coming back to our country. I still believe in us Filipinos.
We are people with great untapped potential. There is still good in us.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:35 am
please bear with mrs. arroyo. she is like monster-robot, getting orders from her advisers.. the makati stand off was an OVER KILL!…09189239749
November 30th, 2007 at 6:17 am
The likes of salinas, jun, etc. are obviously Trillanes fanatics. Sayang, ganda sana ang country natin kung walang salot na katulad nila. GMA is no better than the previous Presidents, but give her a bit of credit. She grabbed a rotten economy from Erap’s jueteng admin., gumaganda ang record ng Pinas ngayon dito sa ibang bansa. Si Trillanes, sa totoo lang, attention-seeker yan. Hindi siguro na-breast feed ng Nanay ‘nya. May kulang sa kanya. I feel sorry for the jerk!! Dalhin yan sa Therapist!
November 30th, 2007 at 6:14 am
Trillanes,
Kung magkukudeta ka rin lang, planu-planuhin mo naman kahit papaano!!
Utang na loob, di na nga umubra ang plano niyo sa Oakwood, tinawid mo lang ang kalye at inulit mo pa!
Ang nangyayari nauunsyame lang ang taong-bayan sa kawalang kwentang pinag-gagawa mo!
Dapat ang pork barrel mo ipamudmod na lang sa pag-renovate ng Peninsula at pagpaayos ng national penitentiary. Buwisit! Ikaw ang pinakawalang kuwentang senador sa kasaysayan ng Pilipinas. At least si Ramon Revilla, natutulog lang sa session.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:13 am
habang hindi namamatay yang mga linta sa kongreso at habang di nagigising ang mga mamamayang pilipino sa katotohanan na ang ating gobyerno ay kurakot, patuloy ang pag-bagsak ng ating repotasyon lalong lalo na sa ibang bansa. mga kapwa ko pilipino gumising naman kaya at lumaban. wag kayong pasisilaw sa kapirangot na salapi, ang isipin ay kung pano tayo uunlad. BAGSAK NA ANG PILIPINAS MGA KABABAYAN…
November 30th, 2007 at 6:13 am
WE ARE NOW UNDER MARTIAL RULE. A NEW DICTATOR IS BORN.. *THE FULL FORCE OF LAW ” IS NOW IN THE HANDS OF MILITARY!
November 30th, 2007 at 6:12 am
mga supporters ni Trillanes….
mga bobo pala kayo eh….bat di kayo nagpunta sa makati kanina? at sumuporta kayo hanggang mamatay kayo….mga ungas
November 30th, 2007 at 5:50 am
Kakatuwa na nakakainis ang bayan natin!!!! Di ko maunawaan ang mga pangyayari.
Di ako pakawala ng GMA administration, wag san akong akusahan. Bakit ba laging isisi sa pmahalaan ang amg nangyayaring kahirapan???? katulad na recent destablization try, sino ba mag suffer dyan?? Si Trillanes ba??? Si Guinggona kaya?? Mga taong simbahan kaya??? Di ba ang ordinaryong mamamayan na tulad natin?? Babagsak na naman ang ekonomiya, ano epekto nun kay Trillanes, Guinggona at mga pari??? E ano pa, e di wala! AKO, IKAW at TAYO na maliliit! ang MAGTITIIIS sa KAGAGUHAN na ito!
November 30th, 2007 at 5:38 am
i agree with barok…leave while you still can!!!
Just think that almost all the rich and influencial families are the ones
November 30th, 2007 at 5:29 am
PLEASE TAMA NA YANG REVOLT
MAGKAISA NALANG PARA SA IKAKAUNLAD
NG BAYAN. MAGTRABAHO NANG MAHUSAY
PARA SA PAMILYA AT SA BAYAN.
NOW FOR THE PRIEST WHO ARE INVOLVED TANGA KAYA HINDE DIYOS ANG NASA ISIP, HUWAG NALANG KAYONG
MAG-PARE KONG GANYAN LANG NAMAN ALAM NIYO . MINSAN NALANG MAIISIP MO NA MAG-MUSLIM NA LANG PARA TAHIMIK DONT PRACTICE CHRISTIANITY IF ONLY U KNOW IS MAG-GULO.
KAY TRILLIANES NAMAN AT KAY GEN. LIM
KONG HINANAKIT KAYO DAANIN NAMAN SA RULE OF LAW HUWAG PAIRALIN ANG KATANGAHAN SAWA NA ANG TAO REVOLUTION (GAWIN NIYO SA EDSA, TANGA HINDE SA HOTEL ) BAYARAN NIYO ANG NAPINSALA NIYO HOTEL. huwag niyo ng uulitin kong takot din kayong makipagbarilan. YOUVE JUST LET THE FORIEGNER SCARED AND YOURE KILLING THE ECONOMY. YOUR NOT HELPING FOR THE NATION BUILDING. GUSTO NIYO KAYO ANG MAGHARI , PLEASE NAKAKAKILABOT.
TUNGKOL NAMAN SA MAHAL NA PANGULO
PATAPUSIN NALANG ANG TERM NIYA PARA MATAPOS NA YANG EDSA EDSA NAYAN . RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2010 DIYAN KAYO MAG-LABAN LABAN .
SI LOREN LEGARDA NAMAN WALANG MALASAKIT SA KABABAYAN NG SINABE NIYA NA GOOD LUCK KAY VICE PRESIDENT
AT LEAST MAY GINAGAWA SI VICE. KUNG SI LEGARDA PUMUNTA KAYA SA KUWAIT AT SABIHIN KO RIN GOOD LUCK NA PATAWA MAGDASAL KA NAMAN.
PRIEST PARE PARE MAG- MUSLIM NA LANG KAYO. KAYA SIRA NA KATOLIKO WALA NA NGA SIN NA PAKIALAMIRO ALIS NARIN KAYO ….. THANK YOU
November 30th, 2007 at 5:08 am
Hangga’t nandyan si Arroyo, meron at merong mangyayaring ganyan… I agree that Trillanes et al did wrong… but at least they are doing something… hindi kagaya ng iba na walang pakialam…
November 30th, 2007 at 5:01 am
Ginamit nya ang katangahan niya.,malaki sana and bilib ko sa kanya, sayang.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:23 am
Kahit sinong presidente pa ang ilagay niyo dyan sa malacanang, di kayo makukuntento at gugustuhin no pa din patalsikin. Wala na kayong naitulong mga panggulo pa kayo.
Mabulok ka na Trillanes sa kulungan, pati yang mga obispo at mga pari na yan. Kaya konti na ang pumupunta sa simbahang katoliko dahil sa mga katulad nyo. Itong Guingona na ito walang pinagkatandaan, balimbing!
November 30th, 2007 at 3:04 am
eh nag bbluff lang pa la tong si trillanes…nakarinig lang putok and nakalanghap ng tear gas eh surrneder agad…..
this is just one proof na lang prinisipyong totoong pinaglalaban tong si trillanes!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 2:55 am
Trillanes, et.al. surrendered coz the people did not heed his personal call to join him. Their plans went pfft. No warm bodies to cover their cowardice.
The people now see differently. We see in him nothing but personal ambition. It’s been his persona ever since the Oakwood fiasco.
That’s the problem with people with messianic complex. They think they are the chosen ones to liberate us to the promised land. We’ve seen a lot of them in our rich Philippine history. But look at where these self-proclaimed messiahs has led us to right now.
Unfortunately for Trillanes, et.al, they can’t get much sympathy. Mayayabang kasi pumorma. How can Trillanes say that he stood for the oppressed when he would always choose posh locations for his capers, first the Oakwood Hotel and now the Manila Peninsula, places that only the rich and the elitist can afford? People only sees moneyed shadowy characters behind his every move.
In other countries, vanquished coup participants get executed immediately. In the Philippines, they talk at length with the media.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:37 am
Good day to everyone….I’m one of the countless OFWs trying to earn a living here in the U.S. It really saddens me to see the current situation diyan sa Pinas. Parang walang pinagbago….nag-iba lang yung taon pero ganun pa rin ang sistema. Please dont get me wrong I’m not an ADMIRER of PGMA, she has a lot of faults and shortcomings. But I don’t fully condemn Sen. Trillanes et al. because I can empathize with his ideals, but I disagree with the method with which the senator carried out his protest. There is a saying that goes “Learn to pick your battles”. In this instance Sen. Trillanes picked the wrong place at the wrong time. With that said PGMA should do a thorough self examination she might have survive this time but I have a gut feeling this will not be the end. I wish I knew how to end all of these restiveness but like the ordinary juan de la cruz I’m at a loss. Ang alam ko milyong mga ama, ina, anak ang natutulog na gutom. Milyon ang nawawalan ng pag-asa, milyon ang nag-iisip kung meron pang maginhawang bukas para sa kanila. I see it everyday in TFC and GMATV, it stares at me in the face. I always remember to give thanks for the opportunity given to me to have a better future, but I can’t help but wonder papano ang milyong mga pinoy na hindi binibigyan ng ganun na pagkakataon? I think the Filipino nation deserve better leaders…..leaders that have great visions for our country, that can inspire optimism and hope. Leaders that lead by positive example….honest public service, integrity and with the welfare of their constituents in mind. Ewan ko ba, baka nangangarap lang ako ng gising…pasensya na parang sirang plaka ang mga sinasabi ko. With all that said, MABUHAY pa rin ang Pilipinas! And I’m still thankful that I’m a Filipino.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:37 am
very sad….
only in the philippines will a duly elected senator go AGAINST the law and stage an uprising. trillanes was elected to a position where he could have used legal means to exact change if he so chose. instead he defies all legality by attempting a coup. also, did he really believe a coup would be to the BENEFIT of the people? do the people of the philippines want another person at the head of the government who DISRESPECTS the law?
the philippines is in such disarray and unfortunately, i dont think either side will help increase political stability.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:08 am
If folks want to leave the country then let them, sana makamit nila lahat ng minimithi nila;
But if folks want to stay and do their small part then please let them be as well. Ang importante merong maiiwan na mag-aayos ng ating bahay.
Mabuti na rin pag umalis ang mga gustong umalis mababawasan ang negativity at mas mapaparami ang productivity.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:53 am
WE HAVE TO PRAISE SENATOR TRIALLIANES FOR FIGHTING FOR WHAT HE BELEIVE IS RIGHT HE WAS LED TO THIS ACTION BECAUSE THE GOVERMENT
DOEST ALLOW HIM TO DO IT THE DEMORATIC WAY SINCE HE WAS ELECTED AS A SENATOR HE WAS NOT ALLOW TO ATTEND SENATE SESSIONS.
IT SHOULD BE THE CIVILIAN OVER THE MILATARY NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND
BECAUSE PEOLE LIKE ME VOTED FOR HIM
SO HE COULD REPRESENT US FIGHTING THIS CORRUPT AND ILLEGAL GOVERMENT OF GLORIA BUT THE GOVERMENT DIDNT ALLOW IT BECAUSE THEY AFRAID OF WHAT HE KNOWS AND WHAT HE CAN DO
MABUHAY KA SENATOR I HOPE THOSE PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW YOU AND EXPRESS THEMSELVES VISIBLY NOT IN HIDINNG
November 30th, 2007 at 1:03 am
we need god’s divine intervention on what is happening in our beloved country today.
“Righteousness should reign in this country”
Righteousness exalts a nation but sin a disgrace to any people! Pro. 14:34
and righteousness can only be established unless we have a Righteous Leader in this country.
We need change!
Bangon ang Pilipinas!
November 30th, 2007 at 1:02 am
we need god’s divine intervention on what is happening in our beloved country today.
“Righteousness should reign in this country”
Righteousness exalts a nation but sin a disgrace to any people! Pro. 14:3
and righteousness can only be established unless we have a Righteous Leader in the country.
We need change!
Babangon ang Pilipinas!
November 30th, 2007 at 12:52 am
Well, it only showed Trillanes’ true colors.
Hindi talaga sya marunong sumunod sa batas.
Nanalo na nga sya, nabigyan na nga sya ng pagkakataon para sundin ang tamang landas pero mas pinili pa rin nyang gamitin ang puso nya kesa sa utak nya.
Lumabas tuloy na parang gusto lang nyang gumanti. Nagmukha tuloy syang isip-bata.
Mabuti pa so Sen. Gorio marunong mag-timing marunong mag-lay low bago umarangkada.
Akala siguro nila magiging parang EDSA muli, hindi man lang sila nag-due diligence.
Kahit konting survery-survey ba.
Majority ng mga tao ngayon sawa na sa mga rally rally at mga coup de etat dahil alam nila walang ibang maipapalit ke Arroyo pansamantala.
Bakit, kung sakali mang nagtagumpay sila, sinong ipapalit nila? malamang nyan ang magpapatayan din sila-sila. Lalo lang magkakagulo ang bansa natin.
Sayang talaga boto ng mga tao. Pero nandyan na yan.
Mabuti na rin at hindi sila nag-tagumpay.
Sa mga nagbabalak gayahin sina Trillanes mag-isip-isip muna kayo. Dahil kung hindi, makakadagdag lang kayo sa sakit ng ulo ng sambayanang tao.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:44 am
Pilipinas ang kawawa for what is going on and only a miracle can help our country as nangyayari, to each his own tayo, watak-tawak, walang pagkakaisa!!Paano nga ba tayong uunlad that even priests nakikigulo instead na maging peace makers ????
November 30th, 2007 at 12:39 am
ANO NA BA ANG NANGYAYARI SA ATING LUPANG SINILANGAN ? SAMANTALANG NATALO PA SA GIYERA ANG HAPO, SILA PA NGAYON ANG ASENSO NAKAIMBENTO NA BA ANG PHILIPPINES NG SASAKYAN KATULAD NG JAPAN AT KOREA WALA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PINAKA CORUPT NA COUNTRY PA TAYO…. WALA NA BA TAYONG PAG-ASENSO ?? MGA PILIPINO NA NAKATIRA SA PHILIPPINES WAKE UP!!!!! MAGSTRIKE KAYO PARA SA DEMOCRACY!!!!!! NAWAWALA NA AND DIGNIDAD NATING LAHAT NA PILIPINO.. PURO CORUPT NA LANG AND NAMUMUNO SA ATING BANSA.. KUNWARI HINDI CORUPT SI GLORIA ARROYO PERO ANG GUMAGAWA PARA SA KANYA E ANG KANYANG ASAWA(FIRST GENTLEMAN) AT ANG KANYANG ANAK. NAKAKAHIYA TALAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GLORIA YOU BETTER STEP DOWN NA OK!!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 12:37 am
lam nyo kaya desperate na si trillanes n his gangs?kasi lam nya na ala na sya pagasa makawala sa mga kaso nya.feeling nila sila mga sagot sa mga problema ng ating bansa.sino papalit nila si erap na naman?!!palagay ko alam ni erap ang nangyayaring ito.mga pakawla ni erap yan eh.obvious naman di ba.gising mga kabayan!!maawa naman kayo sa bansa natin..waaaaa!!
November 30th, 2007 at 12:37 am
An act of bravery. That was how I described the Manila Pen stand off. No one in the current members of any of the 3 branches of the government would dare demanding PGMA to step down if you know you only have few supporters beside you. But Trillanes did. Had civil society groups joined, I bet there are plenty of “trapos” and “balimbings” who will surface at the Manila Pen to express their support to the acts of Sen. Trillanes. Ang dami nyan sa gobyerno natin, kawawang pilipino.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:34 am
There are two sides of the coin in here….1st one is the yearning for every Filipino to have a good government …idealist like the Magdalos lead by Trillanes wanted to change all of this thru extra constitutional means..I cannot blame him, the system we have is deeply rooted to partisanship, corruption and patronage politics..malalim ang ugat..but to whom will the Filipinos turn to after Trillanes et.al succeeds? All around them, old TRAPOS surrounds them…mauulit lang ulit ang mga nangyari nung EDSA 1 and 2..it’s just a cycle..
The real solution is a complete makeover for every part of society down to the lowest level..change in core values simulan sa tahanan, sa iskwelahan, sa pamayanan. Every one should take part and change and become all model citizens..do what we can do for our own country and make sure to live it ..not ningas kugon.. how can we do it? One act of random kindess…sabi nga sa pelikula.. for sure everyone would be guilty of throwing a balat ng candy every now and then sa kalye..naisip ba natin na itong simpleng bagay na ito ay balewala? hindi…mali…it shows a great big deal of irresponsibility..wala naman nakatingin..may maglilinis naman nyan…
getting to the point..change in our political system should start from us individuals as this will reflect the type of people we elect in our baranggays, in municipal and city government up to malacanang.. the sad part is no one seems to spearhead and jumpstart this…hopefully, there will come a generation from our youth that wil have a collective mind and do this.
2ndly, i don’t think that this episode will hardly make a dent on “whatever economic gains” we have had…this is misleading pronouncement by the government or anyone who relied in this blog..why…for one? the GDP growth of the Philippines is largely influenced by remmittances of OFWs which sustains the economy! Reality should be known to all Filipinos, ang foreign investments growth na pumapasok sa bansa ay maliit kung ikukumpara sa ibang bansa..isa pa..ang halaga ng peso against the dollar ay naiimpluwensyahan ng patuloy na pag utang ng gobyerno sa mga international institutions at sa remmitances ng OFWs…kaya mataas ang pera natin ay dahil marami tayong supply ng dollar..at hindi impluwensya ng mga direct foreign investments.
Bilang OFW, lagi kaming nababahala sa mga nangyayari sa ating bansa..i am one of thousands of Filipinos wishing all this will change..we wish to come back to the Philippines and participate in nation building so that the future for all of us will be bright…
Iisa lang ang dapat isigaw..hindi ang Magdalo, hindi si GMA, hindi si Trillanes…bagkus…dapat sambitin…
Mabuhay tayong mga Filipino!
November 30th, 2007 at 12:31 am
what good do trillanes brought to our economy? peso is getting stronger little by little and yet he strikes again so pesos will most probably gets weak in the succeeding days. He is not helping our country but he is making it worst.
i’m not PRO GMA, but lets face it ndi lang si GMA ang corrupt. Changing the president will not solve our long lived ECONOMIC problems. Changes need to start in every single FIlipino. starts from following simple traffic rules, proper disposal of garbage and many more.
questions to PRO trillanes - IF ever GMA will be ousted who will replace her? will the successor meets trillanes qualification? what if NOT? will he repeat the same process?
OR trillanes is thinking of MILITARY taking over the country? do we want that?
there are lots of questions thats need to be answered.
and correction to Jun S this is not God’s will. God is a God of peace not of violence/war.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:15 am
I’m really sick and tired of what ’s happening in the Philippines right now!
Is there anymore available Good President who will lead our nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every President that was elected
November 30th, 2007 at 12:15 am
Ryan Jose
Media should be fair in reporting. It seems Chan 2 starring Korina Sanchez prefers reporting the side of these unscrupulous individuals and cut-off the press con of Mr Bunye and co. Media personnel should not be crossing the line of fire and they should not be complaining of anything while in the midst of the situation. They chose to be there and they should not be complaining. The stand-off is almost over, now the media takes centerstage airing complaints… What the hell…Only in the Philippines.
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IF THE MEDIA IS NOT GOING TO REPORT WHAT THEY SAW THE FILIPINO PEOPLE WELL NEVER KNOW WHATS GOING ON.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:15 am
I don’t feel quite cheerful right now, having voted for a senator whose weak in expressing his thoughts, acted upon anger and had disturbed a seemingly peaceful day. The Gloria regime may have done a pile of wrongs to this country, but if we do not let the administration continue, what would take place next? Another series of power grabbing to the extent that never a full term for accomplishment be realized in over a decade since FVR? The Oakwood Mutiny was an act of patriotism, this one is just plain aggressive and less rational.. I will always support the mutineers but not the mutiny.. We need not another Burma nearby..
November 30th, 2007 at 12:12 am
THE FIGHT IS NOT JUST BETWEEN TRILLANES, & GLORIA ARROYO, BUT BETWEEN GLORIA ARROYO, AND THE FILIPINO PEOPLE.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:09 am
What Trillanes and Gen. Lim had done is indeed a very rash thing. The greater good of the country should have been foremost in their minds, considered seriously and studied in detail.
The perceived existence of evil cannot be eradicated by another evil - the take over by force of a peaceful enterprise in order to attain media mileage. This is anarchy in its barest form.
Such an act is an immature and childish, if not futile attempt to gain popularity and support. The result - infamy.
These two frustrated mutineers should consider the bigger picture before plunging into stupidity - the reality of the United States’ support for the Philippine Government.
November 29th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
Trillanes and company are frustrated with the kind of Justice you have. They asked for bail but denied my judge Pemintel. They asked many times and denied many times. Justice in the Philippines is not justice at all. Look at Erap strada who took millions….He is free. why? there is a saying that goes, “birds of the same feather flock together.” GMA and Erap have something in common - Stealing, corruption and yet they are free. Now, what is the crime/s of trillanes and co? Absolutely they are nothing compared to to GMA and Erap’s crime. So let Trillanes serves in the senate while he is depending his case in courth. That’s very simple. Trillanes and company are right when they protested. GMA and Erap must be in prison instead of trillanes and company. MCrubz, USA
November 29th, 2007 at 11:21 pm
log on to http://www.snap08.blogspot.com and signed for the resignation of gloria and noli.
November 29th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
we salute both sen trillaness and general lim, all their escorts and all the civilians especially vice pres guingona, bishops and all the priest who supported them. I hope that this will be a wake call to all of us Filipino, let us join then in their crusade against corruption in which is very rampant in the arroyo government.
Let us join all the bishop tomorrow for the rally calling gloria arroyo for her resignation!
November 29th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Fritz
Kung kelan karapat dapat na gamitin ang terminolohiyang “wala sa ayos” ay ngayon at sa isang tao lamang-kay Trillanes. Sa sobrang ambisyon eh nasira na yata ang ulo nya. Hes not helping our country to progress but instead putting it in shame by showing the world that the Filipino people voted a stupid military man as senator.
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Why are you blaming Trillanes? His not the one bringing shame in the philippines but Gloria Arroyo, Because of her the Philippines has been tag as the number one corrupt in the entire asia, Number one killing field in the world.
The person should be in jail is Gloria Arroyo, And her cronies because there is solid evidence against them for being corrupt. But the filipino people letting them get away with anything even murder.
November 29th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
I agree that we are from the government we need. But we did not have any better option. I agree that there are a lot of changes needed. BUT I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THEIR METHODS! Kung nagpakamatay cya don like ninoy baka mapaisip p tyo and maybe move ourselves. It seems trillanes has to work on his planning skills and his logic… Or maybe somebody else is planning for him with alterior motives..
i still believe we need a hero who has complete faith in the change he wants to happen and the courage to see it through, maybe even sacrifice his life… pero i hope not. I hope we get to deserve another ninoy but this time he doesn’t get shot dead and we get to have this next hero as our president. Needless to say this is not trillanes
November 29th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
jhun
I’m very frustrated with this Gloria administration…They are corrupt and useless!!!Many people starving because of them…….there’s no option!!!
I will support you senator trillanes…May God bless us……
Devil gloria government have no place on God…I believe good shall prevail…
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If you really believe on what Trillanes, Are fighting for; Then do your part and not paying your taxes. And if you’re working abroad stop sending big amount of money to the philippines, Because without the OFW money remittance the Philippines economy surely going down under. And so is Gloria Arroyo, Bogus regime.
November 29th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
Well, let us see how God will discipline Gloria….my pity for her….she should be sensitive enough that what has happened to her husband is the first pestilence poured-out….and if she does not change, like Pharaoh of Egypt in biblical times, more pestilences will come until she will renew…she should not wait for this to happen lest she will be the greatest loser from among the leaders this country had ever had….let us pray for her…
November 29th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Barok
Trillanes is just a mirror of the deep frustration the people are feeling about the administration and the government. It’s a pity he choose the wrong path to express his message.
The Philippines is a hopeless case now, not even the senate can do good. For those who have the opportunity, its time to think over of leaving the country for good.
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You’re absulotely right, The Philippines is a hopelss country. I already said it, And I’m going to said it again,…There is nothing you people can do. Because Gloria Arroyo, Has been supported by these corrupt PNP/AFP/JUDGES. And the people you vote to protect the filipino people, And not protecting the filipino people. Except Gloria Arroyo, Because she have plenty of money to pay them off.
November 29th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Sen. Trillanes and his group just did it because there are no other recourse available to let GMA give up…all constitutional means have been used…but unfortunately, power-drunk GMA and “mukhang perang” cohorts including the self-represented, loyal CONGRESSMAN (everytime GMA has a problem kc, they will troop to Malacanang to express their support) has blocked all means to let justice reign…
November 29th, 2007 at 10:51 pm
jose bernardo
Trillanes is such an asshole. No logic and can not even express himself vividly. This adventurism is a slap on his face. Jail all the supporters including the priests…We can’t afford to have this people around ruining whatever economic gains we have achieved.
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I don’t blame Trillanes, Et. Al. For doing what they did. What economic gains are you talking about?! The so call economic Gloria Arroyo, Were talking about nothing but lies,….Her so call dream team economist pad the so call rosy economic so that they can borrow money to the world bank. If you really believe that the Philippines economy is rosy why is it the government fall short on their taxes colloction. Sabihin mo there so call rosy economy nothing but a big lie!!!!
November 29th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
What Sen. Trillanes has done is just a reflection of ongoing disgust, distrust and hopelessness of Filipino people under this corrupt and immoral Arroyo regime…Well, if the moralists failed again this time, vengeance will came from the Above….remember..all bad and evil leaders fall….there will be a day of reckoning…
November 29th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
It is stupid leaders like Trillanes and those priests and KSP na politicos that should be hang in the courts of justice. What they did today at the Manila Pen is a slap of the poor leadership of a supposed military leader and strategist in Trillanes. Ang pag iisip nya ay isip pulbura! Mabulok ka na sana sa kulungan!
And the media like Channel 2 broadcasters should stop haranguing the policemen who are doing their job. In the first place you choose to be in the battlefrront and yet you do not want to own responsibility of your biased type of broadcasting. Shame on you and your ilk!
It is about time the true Filipinos stand up and rise to tell all these so called leaders of the Filipino people to stop and leave us alone! Masyado ng pinaghihirap ninyo ang bayan!
November 29th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
let us not forget that trillanes has the moral authority to stage a standoff compared to gma. sen. trillanes was elected by the people despite the odds that were against him during the 2007 election. gma was never elected “fairly”. worse, she was caught cheating, thanks to “hello garci”. if people don’t act on dislodging gma from the presidency, expect the worst in the future. just think how much it will cost the us, taxpayers, if the zte broadband deal, transco sale, congressmen payoff, etc…and all such other deals? phil assets like transco, real estate properties (like ny), are being sold for much lower price to her cronies. this govt has no conscience. she has to go and face trial for treason. she is not the government, she’s a fake president.
November 29th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
jhun if you are that frustrated with the current administration where are you today then? why not stand behind trillanes at manila pen, support him? then go by all means….pura ka dada….
November 29th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
expect tomorrow’s headline will be about trillanes holing up the manila pen instead of gdp growth at 6.6% in the 3rd quarter….
November 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
and by the way the gma basher and haters should have rallied with their idol in manila pen today……
November 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
I hope these people who are supporting this Cheat in the palace should rethink thier loyalties to her corrupt government…YOU PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!! Millions of our people are starving and yet she spent 2. something billions in expenses…(siguro para sa Suhol ng mga Corrupt Military Generals and Politicians) and corruptions the highest in history of the Philippines. Prices of Prime Comodities are higher than Mt. Apo but the value of Dollar is way way down so where does this sufferings ends and yet Her adminestration says Economy is going up..Let me remind you folks without OFW’s influx of Dollars to thier love ones this adminestration will go Bankrupt… It’s sad to say to say that the only solution to this problem is to start Fresh….Start over…get rid of all those corrupt people not only in the Gov’t, the Military but also in civilian sector…and start a new generation…if you know what I mean…I’m sure there will be more of come…as long as she is still in the Palace….More power to those who stand firm on thier commitments for a better Government and well being of the Masses…God Bless you Guys and Good Luck you
November 29th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
i mean “angry” not anger.
November 29th, 2007 at 10:33 pm
if majority of the filipino people really dislike the arroyo regime so where are they now? isn’t it the holing up in manila pen is a perfect opportunity to show how anger you are witht the present administration? poor trillanes, go back to jail and stop wiping that shit on your face. you pathetic loser.
November 29th, 2007 at 10:32 pm
It’s not about being good or bad in politics. It’s how savvy you are in it. Look, La Gloria will still be in power after this. Wala naman kayong magagawa eh. Lalo pa siyang nagmukhang malakas na lider (at babae huh, ala-Cory w/ dami coup d’etat) ha, with Trillanes as defeated loser. He could have died today, you know, if La Gloria and her minions are any sicker. Yung mga media sa loob mukhang tanga din, masakit daw mata nila. Syempre tear gas eh, naka-experience na rin sila ng totoong ’scoop’ at konting hapdi lang sa mata, yun umaray. Kung bala kaya tumama sa tumbong ng mga media na yan, ano na kaya sasabihin nila? “The pen is mightier than the sword?”! What arrogance!
November 29th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
I believe this is the right time that people from all persuasions shd unite & rally not only behind trillanes, et al, but for a real total change, the way our corrupt & “buwaya” govt officials are raping our country & our democratic institutions; wala na nga tayong masasabi na matinong institusyon sa ating bansa, lahat nakulapulan na ng dayukdok na pagnanasang manatili sa nakalalasing na kapangyarihan. Kay gma, sana magbitaw ka na sa ninakaw mong pwesto para matahimik na ang ating bansa & tuluyan na tayong umunlad & makauwi na kaming mga ofws. Kay trillanes, sana huwag ka na lang mag-ingles (minsan kasi hindi mo masabi ang tunay mong nilalayon kasi kinakapos ka sa ingles) para lalo kang maunawaan ng masang pilipino & maipaabot mo sa kanila ng malinaw ang iyong mga hangarin.
DOWN W/ gma & HER GANG OF THIEVES, WOLVES, CROCODILES - STARTING W/ PUNO, ERMITA, BUNYE, GONZALES “TWINS”, DEFENSORS, VILLAFUERTES, DE VENECIA, & YUNG MGA ALIPORES NILA SA KAMARA & SENADO. SANA KUNIN NA KAYO NI LORD, MGA A-HOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
November 29th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
anak ng huweteng. habang eto kaming mga OFW, kumakayod at nagpapadala ng pera pabalik ng pinas, eto ang nangyayari sa manila. ang tatanga kasi masyado ng mga bumoto kay trillanes eh! pare-pareho kayong bobo! anong pinagsasabi nyo na you speak for the people? tama nga, sinong people ba tinutukoy nyo? lahat kaming OFWs nagpapakahirap dito sa labas ng bansa, tapos mageelect kayo ng senador na ni hindi pa ginagawa ang trabaho nya bilang senador! punyemas naman talaga! kapag ba may ipaglalaban ka eh manggugulo ka sa isang lugar tulad ng hotel? humihingi ka ng hustisya — bakit? ang pagbasag nyo ba ng mga glass doors sa hotel at panggugulo sa mga nananahimik ng mga bisita ng hotel eh makatarungan? nasaan ang common sense at logic nyo? supposedly common yan eh. mga bwiset kayo ni trillanes! pare-pareho kayo!
November 29th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Hintayin nyo na lang matapos term ni La Gloria. Matatapos din yan tapos kayo naman. I’m sure ganun pa rin Pinas pag naka-upo na Upo-sisyon. We’ve heard Trillanes wet his pants in the ‘Pen when the armored carrier barged in. For a start he shld. pay for damages. Senator naman siya, dami pera. Kay running priest ba yun, kelan ba matitisod yan at matauhan? Dati kinalampag nya mga inns at motels sa Pasay at Pasig at ngsisigaw sa megaphone pugad daw ng kalaswaan. Malay b nman niyang mag-asawa at honeymooners andun?! Palibhasa sakristan lang kasama nya, pwe!
November 29th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Those mediamen arrested during the failed Peninsula coup by Trillanes should realize that they unwittingly became human shields for the coup plotters. The rebellious soldiers literally put the mediamen in harm’s way, knowing to well in their experience what police and military tactics come next on situations like that. The loss of human lives could have been high if Philippine authorities did not manage it efficiently. Mediamen should count themselves lucky and stop being sissies. And Trillanes should apologize to the Filipino people who rewarded him a senatorship for such a stupid action! Jail him some more along with Bishop Labayen, old Guingona etcetera! They hardly made a dent in stockmarket at all!
November 29th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
and these priests who cuddled the mutineers, how can you be so naive!!! dont you know that your heads will be the first to roll if these putchists get ahead with their agenda of taking the reins of government.. i suggest, father reyes, do what you do best, RUN!!!!!
November 29th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
what trillanes has done was totally unacceptable.. an elected senator is expected to act with humility and deference to the administration of justice.. walking out was an act of pure desperation, it reflects his unbridled disregard to the established institutions of government.. he’s an outlaw!!!!!
November 29th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
i agree with you Rolan…
all of us may or may not like GMA, but for heaven’s sake…granted that most of us have been stupid enough to vote for GMA…A STUPIDY CAN NOT CORRECT ANOTHER STUPIDITY!!
all i can say is…TRILLANES…YOU ARE THE MOST SELF-CENTERED…MOST INSECURE…MOST CRAZY FILIPINO I KNOW..
I SALUTE YOU…FOR YOUR STUPIDITY!!!
November 29th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Trillanes can’t be a good leader. Imagine having an “utak pulbora” president. When he can’t get his point across, he has to do something insane. That should be worse than any president we have had.
November 29th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
haven’t you noticed that your favorite coup plotter is “sosi”, mahilig sa 5-star hotel(last time, oakwood) :-))
how can the general public appreciate whatever cause he is espousing when he cannot even articulate what he wants? is that the kind of leader that we would follow? ang labo magsalita, no sense at all. he wants us to second guess….
and the damage, again, that he is causing every time he does his adventures, its unforgivable!
and let him pay mla. pen for the damages not us taxpayers, ok?
November 29th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
GO SEN. TRILLANES!!!
What the government did earlier is such an OVER REACTION…
Amazing!!! tama b naman na si ST ang pagbyarin sa mga sinira ng mga pulis at sundalo? Bakit si Sen. Trillanes b ang nag-utos na ipasok ang tangke na yon?! In the first place THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUCH A NUMBER OF ARMED MEN kc wla namang ginagawang harm ang grupo ni Sen. Trillanes, they were just conducting a MEETING… Hahaha, nakakatawa PGMA, kinabahan kaagad kayo ah, baka mawala sa pwesto syempre di kn makakapag kamal ng salapi ng bayan. Dadami pa ang kagaya ni Sen. Trillanes kapag hindi nabago ang sistema sa bansa. HISTORICAL na masyado ang Pilipinas… isipin niyo MAS MATAAS ANG PRESYO NG GAS KESA PALITAN NG DOLYAR; MATAAS NA LAHAT NG PRESYO NG BILIHIN! NASAN ANG SINASABI NG GOBYERNO NA “ECONOMIC GROWTH”….
grow up PGMA!!!
November 29th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
to trillanes(pwe!) good luck! may you enjoy your stay in your cell at mabulok ka na duon. you don’t deserve to be called senator at wag mong sabihing susuko kayo dahil ayaw ninyong madamay ang ibang tao. sumuko kayo dahil alam ninyong wala na kayong pupuntahan kung hindi sementeryo at takot kang mamatay. matapang ka lang sa harap ng tv, what have you achieved today? nothing!! if before naloloko mo ibang tao ngayon lalong nainis lang sa yo. sanay mabulok ka na sa kulungan mo!!!!
November 29th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Si trillanes handang mamatay sa harap ng camera pero ng nagsimula na ang assault sa peninsula naiba ang salita. no matter what you say wala ka talagang isip akala mo katulad ng oakwood this time you get what your asking for mabuti nga sa iyo mabulok ka na sa preso!! senator ka pa naman its time to act as a senator asshole!!
November 29th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
I believe Trillanes and others did a wrong move back there. First because it’s an irrational thing to trooped in just like that to someone else’s establishment (sorry Manila Pen for the damages). Second, because he gave up, just like what they did during the 2003 mutiny. I mean, waddahell, andun na sila, they got the momentum, then they would just give up..just because he’s concernd with others who might get hurt. so what, the end justifies the means..waddahell..
November 29th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
To all of Trillanes’ supporters!
Come on. Your idol has no balls. At the start, he and his stupid cohorts said they will not leave the Pen. Eh teargas palang ang ibinato ng SWAT surrender na kaagad at ginawa pang dahilan mga press at kung sino sino pang mga nameless. Come on. If you believe in your cause, you have to die for it at di yong, pa-ingles ingles pa sa TV eh mali mali naman.
To Jhun who said that the good will prevail, di ba obvious sa iyo na si Trillanes at Lim ang evil kasi di ba ang nag prevail eh ang puersa naman ng gobyerno? Ilang beses na ba gustong pabagsakin ang gobyernong ito pero everytime eh nagpe-prevail.
Ang pinagtataka ko lang, kanina eh panay ang panawagan ng mga rebelde for “taong bayan” for support at sila nga ang dahilan ng kanilang ginagawa. Nasaan ang taong bayan? Mas marami pa ang miron na naroroon. Kaya puede ba, next time kung meron man, huwag naman gamitin kaming mga taong bayan kc di naman majority eh mahilig mag alsa tapos titiklop lang isang putok pa lang.
My only lament sa mga pangyayari eh bakit sumurender sina Lim at Trillanes. Kasi wala akong gustong makita kanina kungdi pulbusin ng militar ang hotel ang magkawatak watak katawan ng mga walang alam gawin kungdi manggulo. Kung napatay sila, eh di ayos sana.
Gaano man katindi ang pag ayaw ko sa rehiming Arroyo pero di nangangahulugan na kakampi ako sa mga taong gumagawa ng labag sa batas. Pag ganon kc mas masahol pa sila sa taong gusto nilang patalsikin.
Actually, kung gusto talaga ng taong bayan na mapaalis si GMA, dapat eh puro oposisyon na congressman ang ibinoto nila para ma-impeach sya pero kabaliktaran naman nangyari. Mas dumami pa supporters ni GMA sa Kongreso after the election. Wait for 2010 and good riddance to GMA at di yong padrama drama pa eh di naman pala mapangatawanan. NAKAKAHIYA KA TRILLANES.
At yang mga taong simbahan, bakit hindi ang matinding immoralidad ng lipunan sanhi ng failure ng simbahan na ayusin ang moralidad ng kanilang members ang kanilang tutukan kesa makihalo pa sa pulitika? Pati Diyos eh sinasama pa nila sa kanilang katarantaduhan. Ang tatanda na eh wala pa ring natutunan.
November 29th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
Now is not the time to leave the country. That is the option of the elite who have no conscience regarding the future of the Philippines. Now is the time to buckle down and do the work that needs to be done to build a better nation for our country.
November 29th, 2007 at 8:19 pm
It’s State assault on democracy. Why are Basilan-weary military deployed in Makati? The arrest of media - from journalists to technical crew - in a so-called democratic nation is an unnerving first. The curfew declaration without clear legal basis and guidelines puts anyone at risk.
November 29th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Walang mapapala ang pagtatago sa hotel. Mukhang nasasanay na si Mr. Magdalo sa pagtago sa hotel. Kung gusto mo makatulong, tulungan mo na lang yung mga Sumilao farmers. Kawawa naman, ipinagkait sa kanila ang lupang nararapat sa kanila ng mga kapitalista.
November 29th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
sobra ang init ng bugso ng mga damdamin ng mga suporter ni UGOK na trillanes hahahahahaha
Well para sa mga sumusporta kay trillanes…ewan ko kung ano ang tawag sa inyo….MAS GUSTO NYO PANG MAGKAGULO ANG PILIPINAS KESA MAGTULUNGAN PARA BUMUTI ANG BUHAY NG BAWAT PILIPINO…
Frustrated daw sa administration na to….aba eh ang alam ko kayong mga opposition ang nagpapalala ng sitwasyon…lagi na lang kayo ang dahilan ng pagbagsak ng economiya…AYAN SA GINAWA NI TRILLANES AT MGA IDOLO NINYO…NAGKAROON NA NG CURFEW….HINDI KA NA MAKAGALA AT MAKA-ENJOY PAGKATAPOS NG ISANG LINGGONG PAGTATRABAHO!!!!!! DAHIL SA KAENGOTAN NINYO PATI KAMING AYAW NG GULO NASASAMA!!!!!!!
WALA KAYONG MGA UTAK!!!!!!
ITO NAMANG MEDIA…PINAPALALA LALO ANG SITWASYON…ABA EH NAGREKLAMO KUNG BAKIT SILA HINULI EH DAPAT LANG TALAGA NA HULIHIN SILA.-…ANO TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH DAW???? ABA EH PURO NAMAN MGA BAYARAN NG OPPOSITION ANG MGA REPORTER….
SI KORINA SANCHEZ???? ABA EH ISA DIN ALIPORES NI ERAP YAN….!!!!!!!
Sige guluhin nyo pa ang bansa natin…para ng sa gayon eh magdeclare na ng martial law ang presidente…at KAYO ANG DAHILAN MGA HINAYUPAK KAYO!!!!!!!!!!! IMBES NA UNTI UNTI NG UMUUNLAD ANG BAYAN NATIN…GINULO NYO NA NAMAN….MGA INUTIL!!!!!!!!!!
MAGSILAYAS NA KAYO SA PILIPINAS..MAGPALIT NA NGA KAYO NG NATIONALITY NYO!!!! HINDI KAYO MGA TUNAY NA PILIPINO!!!!!! PURO KAYO MGA ANAK NG MGA HINAYUPAK NA WALANG PAKIALAM SA BANSA AT SA IBANG TAO KUNDI SA SARILI NYO LANG!!!
MAGRALLY NA DIN ANG MGA AYAW NG GULO…MAGRALLY NA DIN ANG MGA TUNAY NA PILIPINO NA WALANG HANGAD KUNDI KAPAYAPAAN AT KAUNLARAN NG BANSA…ANG TOTOONG PILIPINO NA INIISIP MUNA ANG KAPAKANAN NG IBANG PILIPINO BAGO ANG SARILI NILA!!!1
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November 29th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
Trillanes is just a mirror of the deep frustration the people are feeling about the administration and the government. It’s a pity he choose the wrong path to express his message.
The Philippines is a hopeless case now, not even the senate can do good. For those who have the opportunity, its time to think over of leaving the country for good.
November 29th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
I’m very frustrated with this Gloria administration…They are corrupt and useless!!!Many people starving because of them…….there’s no option!!!
I will support you senator trillanes…May God bless us……
Devil gloria government have no place on God…I believe good shall prevail…
November 29th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
labanan ang mandaraya, kurakot na pandak sa malakanyang……
November 29th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
tuloy ang laban ng “magdalo”……..
November 29th, 2007 at 7:07 pm
good for trillanes, at least somebody is doing something other than talking..
November 29th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Salina…sumali ka nlang kay Trillanes sa kulungan para lalo mo malaman na pareho kayong tanga.
November 29th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
Kung kelan karapat dapat na gamitin ang terminolohiyang “wala sa ayos” ay ngayon at sa isang tao lamang-kay Trillanes. Sa sobrang ambisyon eh nasira na yata ang ulo nya. Hes not helping our country to progress but instead putting it in shame by showing the world that the Filipino people voted a stupid military man as senator.
November 29th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
i’m sorry jun s, let’s face the reality…
there’s a worst fate awaiting trillanes.
the case against him has been aggravated.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Another thing…not all people are calling for GMA’s removal. quote from Lim.
“We are joining the people… because the President continues to violate the Constitution of the Philippines repeatedly”
I do not know which people they are referring to. They should think that the Phillipines is not for the leftist only.
Stupid senator, priest and former vice-president.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
hindi ako kumakampi kay GMA,,, sundin lang sana natin ang naayon sa batas
Tama ba na basta ka na lang papasok sa isang hotel na nagnenegosyo ng maayos?
Papasok k duon na parang pag aari mo?
Guguluhin mo ang mga nanahimik sa peninsula hotel? makatwiran ba para sa inyo ang prosesong yan?
IYAN BA ANG LEADER NA MAY MATUWID NA PRINSIPYO?
PILIT NA KINUKUHA ANG LAYUNIN SA DI MAKATWIRANG PARAAAN AT SA SAKRIPISYO NG NANAHIMIK NA MAMAMAYAN…..
November 29th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
You stupid assholes supporting Trillanes…isn’t it stupid enough to think.. na they are surrendering for the sake of the media and the innocent people in the hotel when they are the once resposible for the military action. They should not blame it to the police, they should learn to accept the responsibility since they were the ones.
To think, our country has a lot of problems…we’ve just had survived 2 storms, and there are a lot of people who needs help.. KAPAL nang mukha nang Trillanes na yan…papansin.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Salina, you’re sick. Wake up and quit lambasting the president. It won’t help in anyway. Just help in nation-building.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Please have mercy on our nation. Tayong mga inosenteng mamamayan ang pangunahing biktima at makakaramdam ng consequence ng kanilang makasariling adventurism. We should be helping each other to uplift our economy. Not destroying the economic gains we have achieved. Pwede po kayang sa huling 3 taon ay kakitaan tayo ng positibong aksiyon, damayan at pakikipagtulungan tungo sa pag-unlad ng ating kabuhayan.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Naku, naglabasan na naman ang mga pakawala ng Malacanang para palabasin na may kakampi sila. Kung kampi kayo kay GMA, ibig sabihin mandaraya, sinungaling, at magnanakaw din kayo.
BACK OFF!!!!
Long live Magdalo!!!!!!!
November 29th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
Media should be fair in reporting. It seems Chan 2 starring Korina Sanchez prefers reporting the side of these unscrupulous individuals and cut-off the press con of Mr Bunye and co. Media personnel should not be crossing the line of fire and they should not be complaining of anything while in the midst of the situation. They chose to be there and they should not be complaining. The stand-off is almost over, now the media takes centerstage airing complaints… What the hell…Only in the Philippines.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
tang-ina yan ..eh wala naman palang mapupura sa pagpupursigi ng mga mamamayang pilino…buti pa pasabugin na lang yan malacanang..para matigil na ang pangungurakot ni arroyo…
November 29th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
This is God’s will. There’s a worse fate waiting for GMA and her minions.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
i’m sorry to disagree with you salina… hindi ganitong klase ng bayani ang hinahangaan ko,,, ang taong may matibay na pinaglalaban, ay nakikipagpatayan,,, hindi naduduwag at sumusuko… ayokong makiisa sa mga duwag at nagtatago sa saya ng mediamen
November 29th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
i am so disgusted with this bishop and the priest who participated in all these nonsense commotion.. this is not the kind of peace that Jesus is preaching… there are ways to make change… i don’t know what kind of god they are believing
November 29th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
No! Gloria Arroyo, And the filipino people.
November 29th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Ang bangis ng batas ay dapat ipataw sa grupo ng walang kunsensyang grupo ni Trillanes. Ang payapang araw ay sinira at binasag ng kanilang grupo kabilang ang mga paring Katoliko, dalawang abugado, si Guingona at iba pa. Ang kanilang mga paliwanag ay hindi katanggap-tanggap at di makatwiran at di naayon sa batas kung kayat walang sumama upang magbigay ng suporta. Di ko lang lubos maisip kung bakit ang isang taong hindi mn lamang maipahayag ang kanyang sarili ng maliwanag at lohiko ay nanalo bilang senador.
November 29th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
Trillanes is such an asshole. No logic and can not even express himself vividly. This adventurism is a slap on his face. Jail all the supporters including the priests…We can’t afford to have this people around ruining whatever economic gains we have achieved.
November 29th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
Its about time somebody doing something to kick Gloria Arroyo, From her stolen power. I hope and pray the magdalo’s succeeded on their fight against the corrupt regime of Gloria Arroyo!
Its time to unite and fight for what is right. Mabuhay tayong lahat.
November 29th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
sayang lang boto ko, akala ko ba layon nyang umangat at gumanda ang pulitika sa pilipinas e lalo naman nyang ginulo….
ang bobo talga nya
yung sa oakwood, ok pa yun kasi may pinaglalaban
pero itong ginagawa nya parang wala ng rason parang paghihiganti na lang