Antonio Trillanes, failed mutineer turned Senator of the Republic, has decided to play for all the marbles. After holing up in the Manila Peninsula with about 30 soldiers, he has asked the public to choose between him and the President.
I get the sense that this pseudo-mutiny or quasi-coup will not end peacefully.
January 6th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
let us not just blame our president or mr. trillanes regarding this chaos. We must blame our selves because as a filipino living here in our country, we all have a responsibility for us to have a better nation. If we want to have a peaceful nation, than let us forget all the painful events that happened here in our country,but instead, let us help one another to solve all the problems our country is encountering right now, let us be more responsible for the better of this nation!!
December 27th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
I would like to emphasize that I am a bias moderator, so another bias second moderator will be most welcome.
December 27th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Quotes above taken from the discussions between two wise men in this entry, one condemning a perceive corrupt and morally bankrupt administration, the other defending it. The topic of their discussions are the fine points of morality in our government and people.
December 27th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
‘I will agree that declining the money is probably the most prudent thing to do. It is probably what I’d do.’, said the wise man.
‘The truth is the best and most moral thing to do is to take the money,….’, said the same wise man.
‘People think they are being moral but in truth they are not. That’s why they are hypocrites.’, said the wise man again.
A very wise lesson in hypocrisy, indeed.
December 26th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
‘…most moral thing to do is to get the money, vote for someone else, report the vote-buyer….blah, blah…’.
MOTTO OF THE YEAR! Exactly what Gov. Panlilio of Pampanga did. Now the president is snubbing him because of that…and then all town mayors in his province are ganging up on him. Poor gov.
December 26th, 2007 at 4:52 am
“So you think the best and most moral way to handle it is to decline accepting the money? Tell me how does that stop that same vote buyer from offering the money to someone else more amenable? The fact is it doesn’t. The vote buyer is inconvenienced slightly but ultimately gets what he wants.”
Under the Omnibus Election Code, the vote buyer gets prosecuted and if found guilty jailed. Jail is not an inconvenience if crimes are properly prosecuted. The problem is the people who are supposed to enforce the law are the violators of it. The Comelec is supposed to be an independent constitutional body. It is supposed to be independent from the President. But since Marcos bastardized the entire electoral system which GMA and her cohorts learned from, the system has ceased to work. So the best think is to fix the system Constitutionally by amendment and clip the powers of the President by taking away her appointment powers of independent bodies especially investigatory ones. We lack the necessary laws because your congressmen would rather go on a junket with the President than enact laws. Here to curb the powers of the President, the democratic Congress passed the Counsel Reauthorization Act of 1994 whose office is responsible for prosecuting the President of the U.S. The independent counsel (last one was Judge Kenneth Star) is appointed by the Attorney General (Secretary of Justice in the Philippines). But because there GMA controlls the Secretary of Justice it will not work. Congress should pass a law creating an office of the independent counsel and insulating the Office of the Ombudsman (prosecutor of public officials). But the sad fact remains that Merceditas Guttierez, your present Ombudsman, is a close associate of Mike Arroyo. So, we are sure that she won’t lift a finger to prosecute Mike Arroyo and his cronies.
Doing an act which is moral does not require congratulations. A person who has a conscience will inform himself that what he has done is right in the eyes of the God, the law and the people. His congratulations is possessing a good character which is beyond reproach. (God will surely reward you in the end if you did and punish you if you did not).
Anyone who expects to be congratulated for doing what is right and requires payment needs to think more. You are doing what is moral not only for yourself but also for other people, your country, your children and their future. The public officials you place in power today will affect the national economy, our way of life and our children’s future. We are only in this world temporarily, we are not owners of this world. In whatever we do, we have to think beyond our times because decisions that we make now will affect future generations. Case in point is the environment. If we dump our garbage in our waters, the only ones we will be hurting is ourselves and our children. Another is population. If we do not encourge people to control their unabated procreation, there will come a time that there won’t be any resources left for everyone because its either destroyed by pollution or consumed by overpopulation. It doesn’t take a genius to understand this, however, it will require a little vision and consideration of other people.
“The truth is the best and most moral thing to do is to take the money, vote for someone else, report the vote buyer, then donate the money.”
In taking the money, you become a co conspirator in the crime. Because you have profited in the crime you are equally guilty of it. You won’t even qualify as a credible witness on the witness stand against the vote buyer because he can always claim that you asked him for the money to vote for his candidate. He has evidence to back that up because you are in possession of the money. Even if you donate the money, the law does not distinguish. “Ubi lex non distinguit, nec nos distinguere debemus,” (what the law does not distinguish we cannot distinguish). I understand where your coming from…ala Robin Hood. But if you rob a bank and give it to the poor, you’ll still get prosecuted and jailed because you violated the law. The law will not care about your motives. At most it will mitigate your sentence but it will not exempt you from being prosecuted and jailed. The politican-crooks will be in a better position than you becasue they won’t serve time even if they committed a graver crime than you did.
You have a penchant for branding people “hypocrites.” A hypocrite is a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion or a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. I have been accused of a lot of things but hypocrisy is not one of them. Especially coming from a person who doesn’t even know me personally. You are engaging in personal atacks on people you don’t even know. That’s reckless, irresponsible and hateful. It shows that you have a maturity level of a 12-year-old who cannot even engage in a civilized exchange of ideas without resorting to name-calling.
I don’t only believe in my religious and moral beliefs but I ACT ON THEM. A hypocrite is a person who says one thing and acts contrary to his beliefs.
“They are fed a bunch of lies and deluded by easy answers.”
It’s each person’s look out to determine if what he or she is fed is true. The only easy propaganda I have heard is from GMA’s government. People are being fed with false economic data, cover-ups and white washes of graft and corruption. Even the World Bank suspended lending to the government for certain projects becasue they know that the money is being stolen. Whatever economic data you put out there, and even if most Filipinos believe in it, the world knows otherwise. That is why we have become the laughing stock of the entire world. An example of this when GMA pulled out Philippine troops out of Iraq because one Filipino got kidnapped. That just shows she values her PR to pinoys more than her word or commitments to other countries. That does not only show she is weak but that she lacks character to honor her commitments.
“People think they are being moral but in truth they are not.”
You do not seem to know how to read. As I said and quoted from the Bible NO ONE IS GOOD. ALL HAVE SINNED. THEREFORE ALL ARE IMMORAL. But having a good government doesn’t even have to touch on morality. Even if you just require PROFESSIONALISM and ETHICS (which is not necessarily based on what is moral), the GMA government has failed and it has failed big time! A trully professional public servant does NOT steal or lie to the people. Example if you work for a stock brokerage firm and you start churning your client’s accounts without authorization you are being UNPROFESSIONAL and UNETHICAL.
“That’s why problems remain and don’t go away. Filipinos aren’t willing to face reality.”
The problems are present because people who steal money and work for themselves instead of the people on whose behalf they SWORE to work for are doing what they are not supposed to be doing. You can’t commit crimes and blame another person for your crime! You can’t blame a powerless Juan de La Cruz for Malacanang’s fault. That’s dumb. The solution is to indentify the criminals and take them out. Example, if you are a doctor and your patient has a brain tumor, you don’t cut off the leg and hope your patient will get better. You go after the source of the illness and take out the tumor through surgery.
December 25th, 2007 at 1:11 am
Tama lang ang pinaglalaban ni Trillanes, Faeldon at Lim. Nakakakita sila ng corruption kaya gusto nilang mabago ang pamamalakad. Ang tao kasi hindi magising lalu na at mahimbing na ang pagkakatulog sa konting nalalasap na kaligayahan. Marami ng pera ang Pilipinas. Gumising kayo mga kababayan. Ang buwis na nalilikom ng Gubyerno ay matagal na dapat na nakatulong sa milyon nating naghihirap. Tama ang ang huwag pagkuha na pork barrel as a demonstration of etiquette. Tama ang hangarin nila Lacson, Joker Arroyo, at Trillanes. Gising na mga kababayan maikli lang ang buhay natin sa mundo at marami sa mga kababayan natin ang nalubog na sa kahirapan at walang sapat na programa para mabago ang buhay nila. Gising Gising
December 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pm
[quote from Jossher]
Well first and foremost, if you are a law abiding citizen you would refuse it because giving (and receiving) of money for electioneering purposes violate the Omnibus Election Code. I don’t think following the law is hypocrytical. Anyone who thinks otherwise has a questionable sense of right and wrong and shouldn’t probably be allowed to vote in the first place (actually the Omnibus Election Code does disqualify election law violators from voting). I don’t think I even need to elaborate more on whether it is immoral or not. Of course engaging in vote buying is not only illegal it is immoral. Do we really need to discuss the morality of vote buying? I think your smart enough to know the answer to that one. Even your former Sen. Tito Soto said, “Kung sino man ang nagbenta nang kanyang boto ay wala nang karapatang humingi pa nang serbisyo mula sa ibinoto dahil nabayaran na ito.”
[end quote]
So you think the best and most moral way to handle it is to decline accepting the money? Tell me how does that stop that same vote buyer from offering the money to someone else more amenable? The fact is it doesn’t. The vote buyer is inconvenienced slightly but ultimately gets what he wants. I will agree that declining the money is probably the most prudent thing to do. It is probably what I’d do. But here’s the thing. I will not delude myself into thinking that that is the most moral thing to do. I will not congratulate myself for being a moral person. Because what I will know is that I settled for a pragmatic compromise. The truth is the best and most moral thing to do is to take the money, vote for someone else, report the vote buyer, then donate the money. That is the most moral answer. If everyone did that no one would engage in vote buying. But Filipinos are not taught to think like that. They are fed a bunch of lies and deluded by easy answers. People think they are being moral but in truth they are not. That’s why they are hypocrites. That’s why problems remain and don’t go away. Filipinos aren’t willing to face reality.
December 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 pm
juan dela cruz:
You are correct. Prayer works. That’s why I pray for the Philippines.
December 22nd, 2007 at 2:00 pm
abbygail (correct spelling: abigail)
“re cleaning up our ranks and not to wait… i don’t suppose you are suggesting toppling a govt?”
No, I am just making a point. The point being that waiting for PERFECT people to shout at government oppression will never come because people aren’t perfect. However, note the Cory government was initially a REVOLUTIONARY government. GMA attained power similarly through Edsa 2. So if there is a way to topple the government through similar but peaceful means which the Philippine Supreme Court has impliedly legitimized by way of legitimizing Cory Aquino’s and GMA’s government, I do not see anything wrong with it. Are you really sure that GMA won in the last elections? Not that I am a fan of FPJ, but from what the Garci scandal reveals there are a lot of evidence pointing to the allegation that she cheated. Governments come and go but the people and their dispair remains.
“it is easy to say that if you are not here in this country, living someplace else.
do not be an armchair leader, be where the action is…and bear the hardships too, like us.”
We’ll I have been there for 30 years. I’ve been at EDSA 1 (lying in front of tanks) and EDSA 2. I pay correct taxes, follow the law and SEND MY OFW dolllars there. I think that is more than what a lot of people do there. A lot of people are there physically present but mentally and conscienciously absent. Looking at TFC, the traffic and congestion in Metro Manila and highly urbanized areas means that the place is overpopulated. Does the physical presence of an overpopulated people help the country? I don’t think so. Armchair leader? How can I be an armchair leader if I am not a leader (yet).
I am a writer so I write. You think working from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. everyday earning dollars to send to the Philippines is easy? So you think life for the 11 Million OFWs all over the world is easy? OWFs get raped, assaulted and abused so that they can send money to their family. You should count yourself lucky you have not experienced that in a foreign land far away from your love ones. We OFWs are away because there are NO JOBS THERE. It doesn’t take a genius to know that. Or would you prefer that we stay in the Philippines and watch our families starve to death.
Why would I want to bear harsdship with people who do not even know that suffering and harship are not an end in themselves but a means to achieve something better? Sorry but I don’t think I’d want to suffer with people who think sacrificing democratic freedoms just to get along with the wrong and unjust status quo is ok. That’s what conquered people do. Are you agreeing that Filipinos like you are conquered and have no voice? Losers? No rights? No freedoms?
Life is hard being away from one’s family my dear. The bearing of hardship is only beneficial if it has a purpose or it means attaining a common goal such as seeing a plan come into fruition. (e.g. Christ dying for our sins to save us) Bearing hardship for harship’s sake is not sensible. “Misery loves company,” but don’t force people to suffer with you if those people have better things to do. That’s crab mentality. You want other people to suffer just because you are suffering too? What kind of thinking is that? If I see my fellow Pinoy doing well, I am happy for him or her. I wish him or her well. I won’t wish that he suffer too just because I am suffering. I won’t wish his or her kid’s starve just because my own children have nothing to eat. That’s un-Christian. That constitutes hate and hating other people is a sin which Jesus equates to murder. “Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life remaining in him.” 1 John 3:15 which in turn violates the 10 commandments “Thou shall not kill.”
I don’t mind dying for a good cause…dying for my country. Life is overrated anyway. But dying to serve people who are LORDING IT OVER (people who think what they are doing is right) so they can get rich at the expense of the populace is obtuse and inane. As the late Pugo (in a refrigerator commercial) said, “That’s a lotsa nonesense!”
December 21st, 2007 at 1:39 pm
Eueka:
“Why are you living and working there and not here?”
Well, firstly because I am an OFW. Is that bad? Without the yearly $12 Billion OFW remittances sent to the Philippines where would the Philippines be? You’d probably be stuck playing with penny oil mining stocks being “played” by unethical, albeit, big market players. if it was not for the remittances because there would probably not be much disposable income for businesses to go around. From the movement of commodity prices in the Philippines, it is clear that it is experiencing a major inflation. Without foreign remittances, you’d probably see the U.S. dollar-peso exchange rate go as high as P100. I doubt very much if most Filipinos could afford to pay for basic commodities in that scenario. In that case you’d probably have a real revolution. But the remittances are the sole reason why it is at a manageable P42 and is keeping the economy afloat.
Moreover, I have worked in the Philippines for several years in the public service. I do not like what I saw. Bribery, “padulas,” “palakasan,” “lagay,” and many other forms of corruption are as common as banana cue and fish ball in the market.
So, I refused to work with people (especially government officials who think corruption is a way of life) and moved. I don’t even think children will understand teaching them that stealing is bad but its ok for government officials to do it. I don’t think I would understand that either. In my case it was providential because a couple of days before I left, a preacher confirmed my decision was correct when he preached that for those people who are sick of living in corruption should think of migrating. That’s precisely what I did. But don’t worry, I will definitely be coming back. If God wills me to run for public office in my province, I will do so. But in HIS time, not mine. After all, in the end HIS will will be done not mine or anyone else’s.
Living in another country does not sever one’s Filipino citizenship or the fact that one loves his country. The fact that Rizal, Del Pilar and the Luna brothers were educated, lived and worked in Spain for long periods of time did not stop them from being Filipinos nor from caring about their country. In fact, studying and living in other countries opened their minds and made them realize that corruption and oppression are wrong.
“morally indignant and spout a lot of empty garbage.”
Well, the last time I read the Philippine Constitution speech and the press are still free.
“Why aren’t you here suffering with the rest of us?”
Because I am not a masochist. Only masochists want to suffer even if they don’t have to. Why would I want to suffer if I can help it? Why would I live in a corrupt society if I can live in one that does not tolerate it. But I care for the Philippines because it is the country of my birth and my family is still there. As you mentioned there is value in “widening one’s horizons.” I widened mine. That’s why I live and work in another country. Being a college-educated stock market investor, I find it hard to believe that you are “suffering” like most Filipinos. If there is anything that is “empty” it would probably be your experience of their “suffering.”
“Instead of exhorting us to topple this administration, why don’t you come here and participate in doing so in person?”
First of all I never advocated illegally toppling this government. As a person who believes in the law I do not advocate going outside the law. But I also do not believe stopping other people’s God given right to speak out against abuses. There are a lot of ways of replacing an administration legally. The people or any person for that matter can ask GMA to resign. She is not a President for life you know. That is a very legitimate request. There is nothing illegal about that even if some people incorrectly think otherwise. Even GMA was a product of a technically extra-constitutional exercise.
Here in the U.S., democracy is alive. You can bash President Bush in public or burn the American flag without being arrested by trigger happy and mal-educated police or military men. They are considered as “protected speech” by the U.S. Supreme Court. Because the Philippine Constitution was originally written in 1935 which at that time the Philipines was still a commonwealth of the U.S., the treatment of constitutional rights should exactly be the same. The Philippine Supreme Court follow U.S. Jurisprudence in explaining these rights. Ask Father Joaquin Bernas (former Constituonal Commissioner and Ateneo Law School Dean). So I do not think bashing GMA and her administration should even be discouraged. That is what democracy is all about.
“Moreover, anyone who does and would then proclaim their moral superiority over everyone
If you scroll up, note that I wrote no one is morally superior. Jesus said “No one is good - except God alone.” Luke 18.
“I’d think is a self-deluded chump.”
Name calling is a sign of immaturity, lack of breeding, and a poor substitute for valid points of argument. If I were the “chump” then why am I living in a first world democratic country governed by a fair government and why are you there in a third world “pseudo-democratic” country governed by a corrupt government?
“If a voter is offered money to vote for a particular candidate, what should he/she do? What is the most moral thing to do? What would you do? Give us answers that aren’t hypocritical.”
Well first and foremost, if you are a law abiding citizen you would refuse it because giving (and receiving) of money for electioneering purposes violate the Omnibus Election Code. I don’t think following the law is hypocrytical. Anyone who thinks otherwise has a questionable sense of right and wrong and shouldn’t probably be allowed to vote in the first place (actually the Omnibus Election Code does disqualify election law violators from voting). I don’t think I even need to elaborate more on whether it is immoral or not. Of course engaging in vote buying is not only illegal it is immoral. Do we really need to discuss the morality of vote buying? I think your smart enough to know the answer to that one. Even your former Sen. Tito Soto said, “Kung sino man ang nagbenta nang kanyang boto ay wala nang karapatang humingi pa nang serbisyo mula sa ibinoto dahil nabayaran na ito.”
December 20th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Let’s all pray to unite against corruption and abuses of authority, Merry Christmas to all.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Maligayang Pasko sa lahat!
Let’s all pray to unite our country!
Thank you at Mabuhay!
December 18th, 2007 at 12:53 am
i will not anymore write about the role of priests bec. it is controversial. it is enough to say the pope has admonished them to stay out of politics. but if some people would think otherwise, they are entitled to it.
re cleaning up our ranks and not to wait… i don’t suppose you are suggesting toppling a govt? it is easy to say that if you are not here in this country, living someplace else.
do not be an armchair leader, be where the action is…and bear the hardships too, like us.
December 17th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
I think in this blog there’s much said thrown on every fort, everyone has every right what he thinks in his heart. If only the voice of the smallest of this society, the poorest, is crying for justice in their lives, I may say if only each could make a prayer to change things in this ruined corrupt country, that justice will be serve right, and thinking of corrupt leaders whether they’ll be in the Judiciary, Executive and Congress (that is majority of the said Branches), the agony of this dying, hopeless race would be uplift. Especially on this Yuletide Season. People who read, critisize and doing the faults, find that we need to patronize patriotism, oneness and upliftment of our society.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Hoping people would be praying for the country. Thank you.
December 14th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Skeptic,
Far more unreliable than Pulse Asia …. none else but Gloria Arroyo and allies
December 14th, 2007 at 12:15 am
Pulse Asia or FALSE ASIA
- This survey is UNRELIABLE!
December 14th, 2007 at 12:11 am
To:Tell it like it is….
i pray wag sana mangyari ang earthquake sa malakanyang na tulad ng wish mo.
i pray na sana hindi rin mangyari sayo at sa amin.
sana sa susunod isipan mo muna ang hihilingin mo lalo na kung gusto mong makasakit ng ibang tao, ha.
ingat-ingat sa pag wiwish.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:31 am
Hi Bert,
For those used to getting corruption money amounting to hundreds of millions, P 500,000 is what they consider “petty bribery” or “pocket change”
Pulse Asia Survey for : MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT IN PHILIPPINE HISTORY (Survey covering 5 most recent presidents)
Gloria Arroyo - 45%
Ferdinand Marcos - 35%
Joseph Estrada - 16%
Fidel Ramos - 5 %
Cory Aquino - 1 %
None/Refused/Can’t Say - 2 %
http://www.inquirerbloggers.net/current/2007/12/11/the-battle-of-the-corrupt-marcos-vs-arroyo/#respond
and figures at:
http://www.inquirerbloggers.net/current/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/pulse-most-corrupt-2.JPG
For the corrupt, P 500,000 is small change indeed. For the hungry of this nation, this amount can save a lot of lives.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:54 am
Bert
ibig sabihin ni clipmaster, hindi naturuan si gma ng ermats at erpats nya na huwag mag-bribery, ‘di ba ganoon, ha clipmaster? hala ka magagalit sa’yo si Skepik. pero frends tayong dalwa, ha?
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Ha, Ha, Ha,. Bert. You’re kissing ass,. Just to get a share of half a million from Fake President of Cebu. Kong sa bagay, Its christmas time you can buy lots of christmas present with that money. Don’t forget my share ok.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:51 am
Bert
sabi mo clipmaster, ‘petty bribery…’, ibig mong sabihin petty cash lang iyong pinamigay sa palace na 500,000 bawa’t isa solon. sus, ganoon pala iyon, talagang improve na economy ng palace, sobra. kelangan talaga MOVE ON na tayo. tuwa ni Skepik, umpisa na sayaw cha-cha sa congress. tawag na mga kasama, Skepic, sama natin si salina para masaya. pag aprub ang cha-cha sa tao, ganito sigaw natin: READY, 1, 2, 3..GO….GMA FOREVER, JDV FOREVER, GMA FOREVER, JDV FOREVER, gma forever, jdv forever, gma forever, jdv forever, …zzzzzzzzzzz, snore.
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Hoy, Bert: Naman. Ang lakas ng snore no. Parang kang bakang ng meow…..Sige, Cha, Cha, Nalang tayo. Like they say, Fake President forever. Tama ang sinabi ni Salina!
December 12th, 2007 at 12:34 am
Jossher
I believe, however, that the current system can be fixed by going back to the 2-party system (through a Constitutional amendment) and maybe clipping the powers of the President. But it appears that no one trusts whoever will attempt to fix with the Constitution.
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another solution is to have a runoff election……
ang mga kandidato 2 times gagastos, mandadaya, etc……
kaso, baka doble kurakot din……..
December 12th, 2007 at 12:01 am
I am amused by the discussions between two of the most intelligent bloggers in this blog site. Both articulating the fine points of morality, one condemning a perceive corrupt administration, the other defending it. We could learn so much from the two of them.
December 11th, 2007 at 11:24 pm
balik tayo kay trillanes………..
nag apologize daw sa korte si trillanes sa ginawa nilang ‘walkout’……….
inay ko po. ang ineexpect kung sasabihin niya ay ‘i take full responsibility for what i did’……..
ano ba naman klaseng tao yan na gustong mag leader, kay hina…………
gusto rin pala niyan makubra yung ‘pork barrel’ niya………..
pwe………
December 11th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
Bert
pagkaalam ko yung survey is about petty bribery……….
kung baka eh pepetyuging suhulan, pang yosi lang ang involved…….
iba naman yung mga nanyayari sa ating gobyerno, aminin man o hindi, bigtime yon, “M” ang pinag uusapan…….
kung baga basic lang yung naipamumukat ng ibang magulang, pag kinareer ng bata, kaiilangan niyang mag masters……..
si erap lang yata ang walang masters kaya nasentensyahan……….
December 11th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
LAM NYO, WE TALK TO MUCH….
MAY NAGAWA BA TAYO PARA SA BAYAN NATIN?
NGAKARON BA KAYO NG PAGKAKATAON NA MAKIPAGTULUNGAN PARA SA IKAKAAYOS NG BAYAN NATIN?
BYSTANDER LANG TAYO SA MGA NANGYAYARI, KUNG SINO ANG MAY MALING GAWA, ANG DAMI NATING KOMENTARYO. PERO GUMAWA BA TAYO NG HAKBANG PARA BIGYAN NG HUSTISYA ANG MGA KAMALIANG NAGDUDULOT NG DI MAGANDA SA BAYAN NATIN?
TINGNAN NYO ANG MGA SARILI NYO, DITO LANG SA BLOG NA TO, ANG DAMI NYONG SINASABI SA ISAT-ISA, MAGTULUNGAN NA LANG KAYA TAYO.
SUHISTYON KO, SIGURO I-ASSESS NATIN ANG MGA SITWASYON, ANG MGA PANGYAYARI ANG MGA PROBLEMA NG BAYAN NATIN. ALIN BA ANG PABORABLE SA BAYAN NATIN AT ALIN BA ANG HINDI?
WAG TAYONG MATAKOT SA MGA MAY SALA, DAHIL GAGAWA AT GAGAWA SILA NG MGA HAKBANG PARA MAPROTEKTAHAN ANG KANILANG MG PERSONAL NA INTERES.
DI KO IISA-ISAHIN, ARAW-ARAW NABABALITA ANG MGA NANGYAYARI SA BANSA NATIN. SIGURO SIMULAN NATIN DON, MASYADO NG MALALA ANG KALAGAYAN NATIN.
MAGTULUNGAN TAYO MGA KABABAYAN!
December 11th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
saludo ako sa’yo
December 11th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
sabi mo clipmaster, ‘petty bribery…’, ibig mong sabihin petty cash lang iyong pinamigay sa palace na 500,000 bawa’t isa solon. sus, ganoon pala iyon, talagang improve na economy ng palace, sobra. kelangan talaga MOVE ON na tayo. tuwa ni Skepik, umpisa na sayaw cha-cha sa congress. tawag na mga kasama, Skepic, sama natin si salina para masaya. pag aprub ang cha-cha sa tao, ganito sigaw natin: READY, 1, 2, 3..GO….GMA FOREVER, JDV FOREVER, GMA FOREVER, JDV FOREVER, gma forever, jdv forever, gma forever, jdv forever, …zzzzzzzzzzz, snore.
December 11th, 2007 at 9:01 am
As predicted, Charter Change will be resurrected as it will be one of the ways to extend the term of the power hungry and the corrupt.
December 11th, 2007 at 12:14 am
ibig sabihin ni clipmaster, hindi naturuan si gma ng ermats at erpats nya na huwag mag-bribery, ‘di ba ganoon, ha clipmaster? hala ka magagalit sa’yo si Skepik. pero frends tayong dalwa, ha?
December 10th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
Philippine politics is something we want to pattern to the USA flatform in many ways sovereighty, justice etc., but one thing that nowadays we don’t copy is the formation of political parties.
Maybe because of our culture, what culture? (wanting to out smart each other), and the ways of out smarting:
1. Creation of turmoils, eg. fireworks, news gimmicks where it doesn’t care for the welfare of sacrificial lambs.
2. Displacement of other party thru trafficking strong contenders.
3. Lately vote creation, a tactic done especially in Mindanao areas where 15s, 16s, and 17s can vote, why? according to them they are already of legal frame of mind while in urbanized area of visaya and luzon is the double, triple times registration. No wonder why COMELEC and politicians don’t to computerized the system.
4. Creation of other part(ies) so as to create confusion among the people. Sample of these are the KKK, Rainbow Coalition, KAMPI, LAKAS, not to mention there are also locally created political parties for some provinces for all we know there are only two legal parties before 1. Liberal Party and 2. Nationalista Party.
5. To stay up in power, they’re try to change system from one to next, this way motives will not be realized and instead they say so that we can attain progress will be changing from these to these till such time they find a way they’ll stay there all their life.
6. Their favorite pass time, loaning big, big amount to other countries for bigger commission? And let the small people suffer.
7. Of course if what I commission is not enough I’ll find other sources :
a. GSIS and SSS
b. Custom Commission (giving businessmen cut to their taxes, while giving money for my campaign, he he he)
No wonder why, we are included in the list of corrupt countries, and as they say to clean up such mesh it takes a big big heart and thought. Good luck for our beloved country and as I reminded of the song “Edelweiss” . . . bless my homeland forever . . .
May people find honesty in their hearts for the sake of our ever dropping ways.
December 10th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Jossher, if there is a problem with morality in this country it isn’t the basic morality of people. Instead it is the completely twisted sense of morality people have. It is a distorted morality that is used to gloss over the real issues that sometimes require one to deal with less than ideal circumstances. It is this distorted morality that I see as the reason there is an utter lack of common sense applied to solving problems. Political discussion here resembles not so much an exercise requiring people to THINK as much as a way to get all morally indignant and spout a lot of empty garbage.
Question Jossher, should I deplore the fact that you are in a foreign land and not here in the Philippines? Why are you living and working there and not here? Why aren’t you here suffering with the rest of us? Instead of exhorting us to topple this administration, why don’t you come here and participate in doing so in person? Or why not join government yourself and work to make things better that way? Why not? Should I think of you as an immoral selfish person?
Fact is I don’t. Moreover, anyone who does and would then proclaim their moral superiority over everyone I’d think is a self-deluded chump. This country is better served by having people like you stay over there sending us hard currency.
Let me ask you to comment on a hypothetical scenario to illustrate the twisted morality that is propagated in this country. If a voter is offered money to vote for a particular candidate, what should he/she do? What is the most moral thing to do? What would you do? Give us answers that aren’t hypocritical.
December 10th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
abbygail.
Earthquakes is just one, other natural disasters to follow. It will steadily be of increasing frequency and intensity.
To add to the earthquakes and natural disasters, those who are actually involved or those who intentionally continue to be blind to the evils of this society especially those in position of abused power and illegally obtained wealth will feel a more urgent prodding of their conscience and if this fails, divine justice will finally catch up with them. Watch out for personal disasters, diseases and family misfortunes to those concerned.
December 10th, 2007 at 9:33 am
Kabayan
Earthquake in Abra, Ilocos region and Eastern Samar. Unusual heavy rains and humidity in December.
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All I want for christmas if for the earthquake in Malacanyang Palace. So that si Pandak ma shake down.
December 10th, 2007 at 8:29 am
Earthquake in Abra, Ilocos region and Eastern Samar. Unusual heavy rains and humidity in December.
December 9th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Bert:
Thanks for the vote of confidence. However, I am not good. No one is. Jesus said “No one is good - except God alone.” Luke 18.
I am not really espousing the parliamentary system. I just mentioned that it would be “better” (to save money) out of frustration from the current form of government which has ceased to work.
I believe that to understand the present, we need to look back at history. I think the 1987 Constitutional Convention overreacted a bit by changing the two-party system (which I think was working) to a multi-party system. I think they changed it because after Marcos was deposed, they were afraid that it would be easy for 1 person to control 2 parties (as what Marcos had unconstitutionally achieved through Martial law) than a multi-party system.
The downside of the latter is that any Tom, Dick and Harry can form his own party and become President (e.g. Ramos…although he turned out to be a relatively good choice [personally I would have voted for Sen. Jovito Salonga at that time], even if he is not qualified to do so (e.g. ERAP).
Note that before Marcos came in the picture, the two party system was working well, e.g. The original Nacionalista party (as oppose to the current Nacionalista party of Danding Cojuanco) and the Liberal party (still relatively intact…except for Lito Atienza who is more like from GMA’s Kampi) (sort of akin to the Republican and Democratic system here in the U.S.). With a strong 2-party system, the parties are able to field the most (in the party’s opinion) qualified Presidential candidate (unlike today where movie and TV personalities who are clearly not qualified can run). Note that Presidents after 1965 are not selected by the majority as in the past (that is why we had better Presidents then) but by a mere plurality of Filipinos - there are just too many candidates.
The problem is exacerbated by the fact that most Filipino voters seem to lack the political maturity and the education (they should start teaching the Constitution and values at the elementary level. What is DECS doing?) to select qualified candidates. Although, there has been some improvement in that area (e.g. Manny Pacquiao’s loss to Darlene Custodio in the Gen San congressional race).
(By the way, I really hate that shoe commercial featuring Manny Pacquiao with “Lupang Hinirang” playing at the background…”ang mamatay nang dahil sayo.” Apparently, the makers think he is a national hero. Jose Rizal is national hero. Manny Pacquiao is an athlete).
However, there are still a significant number of voters that are having a hard time distinguishing between popularity and competence.
The other problem is that our system (which was originally based on the American system of “separation of powers” of the 3 branches of government (Executive, Legislative & Judiciary) - the purpose of which was to check and balance each other has failed to work after 1972 because Marcos “doctored” it beyond recognition. As a result, the Office of the President became more powerful (unlike the U.S. version) than the two other branches (Congress w/c includes the lower house and the Senate).
Here, Pres. Bush would not be able to issue an E.O. prohibiting executive officials from appearing in a Senate hearing because it is unconstitutional and a violation of the checks and balances principle. Executive officials are generally (and should be) answerable to Congress.
However, it does not work in the Philippines because Malacanang is able to buy the Congressmen through the release of funds (which is a violation of the Anti Graft and Corrupt Practices Act). In effect, Philippine congressmen become beholden to the President (that’s why 34 of them went with her to Madrid even if it appears they have no business being there especially that there is a huge backlog of bills pending at the Batasan). This is not what separation of powers was originally intended.
I believe, however, that the current system can be fixed by going back to the 2-party system (through a Constitutional amendment) and maybe clipping the powers of the President. But it appears that no one trusts whoever will attempt to fix with the Constitution.
December 9th, 2007 at 11:51 am
pinilit lang daw si lim na sumama sa manila pen……..
isang dagok na naman kay trillanes………
baka may napipilitan lang dyan na nagtatanggol kay trillanes……….
now is time, join lim……..
December 8th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Kabayan
Philippines, is now recognized top ten in the world in terms of prevalence of bribery. Yet the administration simply ignores this and go their merry corrupt ways.
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petty bribery yata……………….
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tignan ninyo eksena………..
si totoy nagaaral, gumagawa ng assignment.
ina: toy, eto 10 piso, bili ka ng 5 pisong mantika, sa iyo na sukli.
totoy: opo inay.
sunod na araw.
si totoy nagaaral, gumagawa ng assignment.
ina: toy, eto 5 piso, bili ka ng 5 pisong mantika.
totoy: mamya na po, nag aaral pa ako.
bata pa lang natuturuan na ng bribery, hindi kikilos kung walang lagay……….
isang suhesyon lang po. umpisahan po natin sa sariling bahay, iwasto po natin ang values na ipinamumukat sa ating mga anak para hindi kalakihan……..
December 8th, 2007 at 8:57 am
Earthquake intensity 4 in Samar, intensity 3 in Rizal and intensity 3 in Leyte
December 8th, 2007 at 6:19 am
“There’s a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it.” - William Wallace.
December 7th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
you mean there was an earthquake bec. of the news re our being in the top 10 where bribery is prevalent? i thought everyone knows about our being in the ring of fire :-))
re corruption, bribery, influence-peddling…what else is new?
of course we feel bad we are in the headlines again and not due to some positive developments but the opposite.
to feel good, just remember what is happening here is not unique, whether it be korea, japan, india, albania, peru, even palestine, people are the same, they are weak and always subject to temptations.
to those who keep on looking at corrupt politicians, do not look far….just ask the policeman, how many car owners have offered him money for the day to avoid hassles at lto?
next, ask your revenue examiner why he has lots of money? taxpayers pay him dirty money to avoid paying the legal tax base. isn’t that corruption too? you will say, its not big deal. i say to you, corruption big or small is the same thing.
but even if we know govt officials are corrupt, must we do the same?
you have no right to accuse and blame anyone if you are guilty of the offense yourselves.
if the peso is strong, you complain bec. the ofw’s $$ becomes small. but if the $$ is strong, peso weak, you complain just the same. ano ba talaga kuya?
self-proclaimed economists….tell us what the solution is.
sec. teves or favila might be reading your blogs…
now, to those who want gma out before 2010, do you propose snap elections? what is the legal basis? mabuti kong mag-vacate yan.
granting you sacked gma. what next? noli takes over? do you want that? or you are rooting for erap, binay, trillanes or even jinggoy…
don’t use terms such as “go to hell or let the gma people be burned at stake”….bec. as jossher has said, it just goes to show one is running out of arguments!
re the present presidential system… candidates spend 300M just to win, bec. that amount is needed to lodge his campaign. and what happens if he wins? of course he will recoup that and more? how? shady deals, contracts to favor his supporters, etc. it will never end. our system is not like in the usa where its electoral college. here, you have to campaign all over the country, pay too many people so your votes will be counted, etc.
if that is the system you want, do not whine if the winning candidate will resort to corruption.
there is no such thing as free lunch….a new set of cronies will emerge to recoup their investments.
tell me if i’m wrong!
note: to berudandii…welcome, re cj’s thanks.
December 7th, 2007 at 12:41 pm
“jossher….natros has a point, i assume you read the scandals in the usa involving the cath. priests, they paid billions of $$ in settlement re sex scandals. they must concentrate on cleaning their ranks first before they try to accuse people of corruption.”
And the connection between priests in accused of sexual abuse in the U.S. and Filipino priests in the Philippines calling for GMA’s resignation is….?
Sorry, I have ceased to be Catholic so I’m not privy to the connection.
If we wait for them to clean their ranks (or not speak until we clean ourselves up) then we might wait for a million years for that to happen (unless everyone falls down on their knees repent of their sins and turn to Christ). You think there is enough time for the Philippines?
Meanwhile, do you want your children to grow up in a country whose economy is deteriorating as fast as Bangladesh with a confused culture where what is against the law is ok for certain people? Let them grow up in a place where we jail people for stealing a few hundred pesos to feed their families while allowing public officials who steal billions to go scott free? Is that justice or “just ti-is”?
If the French people waited to clean their ranks before making the monarchy accountable in 1789 then they would still be under the oppression of the corrupt monarchy.
If the Americans waited to clean their ranks in 1763 then they’d still be under British rule.
If the Allied forces waited to clean their ranks and did not drive the Axis powers in WWII, Europe would still be under the Nazis and the Philippines would still be under Imperial Japan.
If Nelson Mandela waited for his family to clean up their ranks, there would still be apartheid in South Africa.
If Filipinos waited to clean their ranks before they made Marcos accountable in 1986, where would we be now?
“unlike these wanna-be priests and trying hard, pilit na pilit to be like sin, wala silang k, hindi bagay sa kanila! nag-iisa lang ang card. sin..sige nga, what homilies have they written for us to learn from it? nada….”
I don’t think you need a priest to tell you what’s right and wrong. Faith is learned from God’s word (the Bible) not necessarily from priests. I have learned that a long time ago.
But, as long as they are Filipino citizens especially those who pay taxes, they can question their leaders (meron K). Government officials are not gods. They are mere mortals that can be questioned, prosecuted, tried and jailed if they commit crimes (in some countries even shot).
I don’t undertand why there is such awe, such resilience, such “steal from me…oppress me some more” mascohistic defeatist attitude, such fear of those people whose sworn duty is to uphold the law who instead stab us at the back by selling our future to the highest bidders. Forcing people in droves to leave their families behind to find decent work because they can’t stop the itch from pinching the national coffers and bleed the country dry.
And what is that forgotten law they took an oath to uphold?…”Salus populi est suprema lex” (”The welfare of the people shall be the supreme law”). With all these defeatist attitude, it makes me think whether the Philippines desrve the leaders they have. I don’t want to bellieve in that. I believe that Filipinos, if they put thier minds together, can rise above that “go along…get along conquered people” mentality. (walang K magsalita laban sa mga tiwaling opisyal….bakit mas may K ba ang mga tiwaling opisyal na magnakaw sa kaban ng bayan?)
The Philippines has been under Spanish monarchial rule for 400 hundred years, the Americans for almost 50, the Japense for 5 and Marcos for 20 where suppression of rights were tolerated dahil “walang k” ang mga tao. I’m sure you pay your taxes. Aren’t aghast at how they spend the taxpayer’s money?
I believe that the Filipino people are way better than that.
December 7th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Skepik
I agree to clipmaster and natros
because they are Rational!
I disagree to stepp, jeri and salina
because they are IRRAtIONAL!
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Too bad, You don’t agree with me. I’m not going to loss sleep over it. Thank god! for that.
December 7th, 2007 at 10:06 am
Kabayan
Philippines, is now recognized top ten in the world in terms of prevalence of bribery. Yet the administration simply ignores this and go their merry corrupt ways.
Meanwhile an intensity 2 earthquake shook Manila.
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My goodness! Top Ten, Only. I hope the Malacanyang Palace shake the foundation off to the ground. Enough to get rid of this Corrupt regime of Gloria Arroyo. Manhid na talaga!
December 7th, 2007 at 8:49 am
Philippines, is now recognized top ten in the world in terms of prevalence of bribery. Yet the administration simply ignores this and go their merry corrupt ways.
Meanwhile an intensity 2 earthquake shook Manila.
December 7th, 2007 at 8:37 am
“Maybe you should contemplate the words of someone like Frederik the Great who said “If I wished to punish a province, I would have it governed by philosophers.”
So you mean you’d rather have crooks running the government than people with ideals and morals? Didn’t your mother teach you stealing is bad? Oh I’m sorry, is your mother a politician?
“Sorry to tell you this but if you are studying law and the above argumentation is the best you can do I don’t think the prospects of you passing are good.”
Well, apparently that’s too late because I already have a license to practice law and a post-grad degree.
“My sympathies are extended because those starting out without capital or educational attainment face a much harder time and are at a great disadvantage.”
Sure you symphatize….sarcastically and condescendingly that is. You remind me of those types who notice other people’s misfortune just so they could feel good about themselves.
“Look at those self-righteous blowhards proclaiming how everyone is immoral and needs to be more moral.”
Well, no one actually is. “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” Rom. 23. It’s no excuse though not to strive to be a better person or at least to follow the law, to follow what is right. Or at the very least to be a little considerate to 70% of the country’s population who earn less than $2 a day. People who could not even benefit from basic services because some politician would rather spend the money (which he or she doesn’t even own) to fly to Madrid on a junket. For a self-proclaimed “economist,” I can’t believe you actually think corruption is good for the economy. I don’t think even Adam Smith would agree with you.
All I’m saying is that crooks in the Philippine government need to leave so that our country can move on economically considering that corruption is the no. 1 reason why the country fell behind from our no. 2 spot in the 50’s. Is that too much to ask? Apparently for some people it is.
But don’t worry, whether I complain about corruption in the Philippines or not, won’t matter in the end because there will be divine justice whether you believe in it or not…”Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Cor. 6:10.
I agree…the Philippines is a Banana Republic….the reason? Corruption and because of people who think its ok. That’s precisely the reason why I left and decided live and work in a country (from where I send my hard earned OFW dollars to the Philippines) where they actually jail corrupt politicians.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
jossher….natros has a point, i assume you read the scandals in the usa involving the cath. priests, they paid billions of $$ in settlement re sex scandals. they must concentrate on cleaning their ranks first before they try to accuse people of corruption.
yes, i agree, cardinal sin led us to edsa 1 and 2, but card. sin is an entirely difft. icon. people can sense his sincerity, truthfulness and he used his wit and charisma to the max. unlike these wanna-be priests and trying hard, pilit na pilit to be like sin, wala silang k, hindi bagay sa kanila! nag-iisa lang ang card. sin..sige nga, what homilies have they written for us to learn from it? nada….
re measly pay of govt. people….the only solution to that is to make pay competitive, so that good people will work for govt. and not incompetents only.
remove the temptation and opportunity.
mc_90….agree, yung idol nila na nagkape sa pen, gusto maging presidente, juskupo!
magagalit si ping, mar, villar, etal nyan!
to inesna…you are funny in a nice way, a little bit of sarcasm.
rafy canlas, manuel, tonio…..good piece, i like what you wrote re media.
if you do not like people to use the term “go to hell”….do not use the phrase “let them be burned at stake” yourselves. apply the golden rule in this blog.
December 6th, 2007 at 11:55 am
[quote from Jossher]
You are the first person I have heard in my entire life that says idealism is or morals for that matter are bad.[/quote]
Then you’re welcome. Perhaps you should start expanding your horizons. Almost anything when taken to an extreme can turn out badly. Ice cream is delicious to eat; too much, however, and you might experience heartburn. Communism can be said to be a more idealistic system of government than a capitalist democracy. Unfortunately it doesn’t work. Maybe you should contemplate the words of someone like Frederik the Great who said “If I wished to punish a province, I would have it governed by philosophers.”
[quote]Fugitive? The term “fugitive” as in fuigitive from justice means “a person convicted a crime who hides from the law.” Apparently, in your world Trillanes is already guilty before a court of competent jurisdiction declares him to be such. Apparently, you also missed the class on a person’s right to be “presumed innocent” until proven otherwise.
…Due process means the right to be heard (in court) before one is arrested or incarcerated. Which constitutional standard of reasonableness are you referring to? I’m not even sure if they still do that in the former communist block.
I still have to read a case penned by the Philippine or U.S. Supreme Court which espouses such a standard.
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Sorry to tell you this but if you are studying law and the above argumentation is the best you can do I don’t think the prospects of you passing are good. Look up the words “fugitive” and “arrest” in a dictionary. You’re reading and comprehension needs work. Both from a legalistic and common sense point of view you are spouting nonsense. A fugitive need not be convicted. A suspect is arrested before being brought to court to face a judge. Considering the above forgive me if I think your ability to interpret laws is gravely lacking and if I am completely unimpressed by your citation of various laws.
[quote from Jossher]From your statement[…] It appears that you only think about yourself and your profits. Clearly a SELFISH individual who does not care about his country and his fellowmen. Now I understand why you seem not to like the “morality” and “idealism” arguments.
Selfish? Yes. But not caring about my country? No. I care about my country that’s why I am expressing my disdain for the hypocritical stupid ideas I see bandied around all the time by my countrymen like you in this blog. Your understanding of selfishness seems limited. Read Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations. Self interest is what makes capitalism work and why it is so successful.
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You also seem to have some sort of “superiority complex” bordering on narcisistic tendencies. Looking down at people by reason of their low educational level or financial inability, just shows the kind of values you were taught. It’s sad.
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Your statement once again shows poor reading and comprehension. My sympathies are extended because those starting out without capital or educational attainment face a much harder time and are at a great disadvantage.
You want to find people with a superiority complex? Look at those self-righteous blowhards proclaiming how everyone is immoral and needs to be more moral. You need look no further than a mirror. I’d simply ignore such talk if what what was said was helping this country but it’s not. It’s making this country worse. People like you are out of touch with reality. Next time you hear the sentiment that the Philippines is a banana republic or that the Church has been a bad influence maybe just maybe you might start to understand why.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:29 am
stepp
ano ba yumg lihim na agenda nila gma…….
maski ako naniwalang maraming katarantaduhan sa gobyerno, sa barangay lang, marami na ang illegal, sa national pa kaya……..
ang kaso, tagagawa ng batas ang senador, sana nag ahin siya ng isang magandang batas para masawata ang talamak na kurakot sa ARM FORCES OF THE PHILS. …………
o kaya ipabasa niya ang isang previlege speech niya sa senado, ihayag ang kanyang saloobin, sabihin ang mga pangalan pati na mga opisyal na nangunugrakot sa afp at pnp………..
ang daming niyang options, ewan ko kung bakit hindi niya gamitin, may hidden agenda rin kaya siya……..
palagay ko gusto na niyang maging presidente ngayon, oramismo………
December 6th, 2007 at 1:15 am
“Go to hell hypocrites!!!” ….the response when one runs out of arguments.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:59 am
abbygail
i read in one of the columns in inquirer, the reasons why trillanes’ caper failed:
1. the weather was bad…it was raining. the previous 2 edsas were held february, no rains. pinoys hate to be wet from rain.
2. it was held nearing a weekend, when people are busy preparing for long vacation.
3. nov. dec. are bonus months. people are busy shopping, etc. since they have money from remittance or from bonuses.
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akala ko matalino yung mama…….
ang unggoy nga sumisilong at hindi naghahanap ng pagkain pag masama ang panahon……..
baka absent, may sakit, noong itinuro sa pma…….
o nagbubulakbol sa isang hotel……
nagmamadali kasi……….
gustong magpasko sa malacanang……….
gustong siya na ang tumanggap ng mga aguinaildo galing sa mga ??????lords, name it………
malacanang is the best hotel in the philippines……….
at ang number 4, galit lang ang tao kay gma kaya siya binoto, kung baga eh pampuno lang ang pangalan niya sa balota, walang dumating sa inaasahan niyang 11 million votes, kawawa naman………..
number 5, from a captain, iniloklok na nga agad siya bilang senador, kay bilis naman, wala pang pinakikitang performance eh gusto ng maging president, tama na, sobra na ang abuso mo, hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon ay makakaloko ka………..
December 5th, 2007 at 11:52 pm
To: Jossher:
Man, you are good, a truly moral person, and I agree with your kind of reasoning. Except one. And that is that you are espousing reverting to the Parliamentary form of government, the one thing the lovers of the scammers in blogosphere are itching to do. And for what? To perpetuate the hold to power of their idol forever, what else! Just observe. In the days to come the MUSIC TO DANCE THE CHA-CHA will start to play. Sure as the sun will shine tomorrow, the lovers of the scammers in blogosphere will then start their chorus to the tune of this Cha-Cha music. If the moral denizens invoke the silence of the lamb, and you, Jossher, want to revert to Parliamentary system, chances are the scammers could succeed in ramming their evil plan into our throat. This will result to GMA and JDV, and their hordes of congressmen holding on to power forever. And nothing change. You, Jossher, and the rest of us will be stuck in the same stinking morality of governance you so vehemently detest today. And the lovers of the scammers in blogosphere will rejoice. Hu-hu-hu-hu-hu-hu.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Priests are people too. Like you and me, they have a Constitutional right to redress their grievances against the government in public. Trying to silence people by reason of their beliefs is a dangerous thing. Isn’t that what they did to Jesus Christ when he preached against the immorality of his day? Didn’t the authorities silence him through crucifixion?
December 5th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
“I am greatly dismayed when I learned that some catholic bishops and priests are joining Trillanes…”
Were you also dismayed when Cardinal Sin and the church called on the people to join Enrile and Ramos during the 86 EDSA Revolution?
“in his rebellion.” There was no rebellion. Rebellion requires the “raising of arms against the government.”
December 5th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
I stand in the way of no one’s ambition. I only ask that no one stand in the way of the people’s well being and the nation’s progress.
The time for facing off is over. The time is here for facing forward to a better future our people so desperately want and richly deserve.
Uulitin ko: Hindi ako sagabal sa ambisyon ninuman.
But make no mistake. I will not stand idly when anyone gets in the way of the national interest and tries to block the national vision. From where I sit, I can tell you, a President is always as strong as she wants to be.
Pagpalain tayo ng Diyos at ang dakilang gawaing hinaharap natin. The state of the nation is strong. Inyong lingkod, Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, Pangulo ng Republika ng Pilipinas.
We love You President Arroyo so much!
You are the best president so far!
December 5th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
I agree to clipmaster and natros
because they are Rational!
I disagree to stepp, jeri and salina
because they are IRRAtIONAL!
December 5th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
I am greatly dismayed when I learned that some catholic bishops and priests are joining Trillanes in his rebellion. They urged the Filipino people to attend demonstrations to reject what they called “morally bankrupt government”. Most if not all of these administration officials are Roman Catholic, therefore, isn’t it but a clear indication that the church led by these bishops utterly failed in its prime duty and mission of guiding the flock? Go to hell hypocrites!!!
December 5th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
katipunero
sa yo BKK at sa iba pang mga TANGA!!! Binarikadahan agad ang Manila Pen ng sandamakmak na pulis at sundalo. so saan dadaan ang mga supporter. nanginginig mga tumbong nila, wla 50 tao run eh me mga tangke pa sila pinadala alam nila dadami agad tao run pag pinatagal pa DAHIL ginawa na nila yan kay ERAP kaya takot sila sa multo nila. Ngunit ang bottom line dito lalong naghirap ang pilipino sa pamumuno ni gloria 7 years na! Asan??? di na ko mkapag intay, gawan na ito dapat ng aksiyon.
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mas T*A*N*G*A ang idol mo, alam pala niyang 50 lang sila, nagtapang tapangan pa ‘hindi kami aalis dito’, tear gas lang, bahag na buntot………
wise lang sila gma, matalino. si erap simple lang pala solution noong nilusob ang malacanang, container van lang iharang mo sa kalsada, safe ka, puro kasi T*A*N*G*A ang mga advisers pati ang puno eh………..
may talagang naghihirap, pero mayroon din naman mga masisipag na umaasenso…….
tamang tama ‘katipunero’, hindi ka makapag intay, gusto mo ng aksiyon, magsisigaw ka ng ‘lusob mga kapatid’……
doon sa hotel crame, andoon pa yata sila……..
baka naman hindi ka sumuporta sa idol mo sa manila pen, nakakahiya, palitan mo na yung ‘katipunero’……..
December 5th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
natros: yup I am aware that they steal to recoup their huge spending on getting elected. Public office has ceased to be about public service, it has become a commercial enterprise where the main objective of getting elected is to steal public funds. There are election laws which regulate spending. The most important thing is, whatever their reason for robbing the people, it is WRONG…legally, morally, biblically, socially, etc.
December 5th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
“maybe even economic sabotage”???
You are just guessing. The law is not the stockmarket wherein you base your analysis on rumors, inconclusive econoimc data, price ratio earnings, moving averages, the fibonacci scales and stochastics. Legal definitions are more precise than that. The rationale being is that it involves deprivation of life, liberty and property. I don’t think that even you would want to be prosecuted a “crime” based on a “maybe” elements.
Under the rule of lenity, any doubt as to the accused’s acts are ALWAYS construed in his favor and against the prosecutiong authority. So back to your charge of “economic sabotage,” did Trillanes, et al engage in illegal recruitment? I was just curious because PD 2018 which defines the criime of economic sabotage only refers to large scale illegal recruitment for employment purposes. Unless, he was recruiting the other soldiers to work as OFWs in Saudi Arabia without a POEA license, I don’t think their acts qualifies as “economic sabotage.”
December 5th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
lahat tayo may kanya kanya opinion ! look anu ginagawa ni arroyo at esposo nya… may mga lihim na agenda, at yan nakikita ng mga sundalo may prinsippyo tulad ng magdalo at trillanes… talamak ang kurakot sa ARM FORCES OF THE PHILS. mas kawawa ang sundalo dahil nakikinabang dito ang matataas na official ng batas…. look sino ang mali karapatan ng bawat filipino ang maglahad ng katotohan kung nakikita mong dapat tumayo para ilahad ang karapatan mo laban sa mga taong mapagsamantala tulad ng Gobyerno ngayun…
December 5th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
if you r filipino nation sa tingin nyo ba si gloria makapilipino, mas priotized nito mga foreigner not poor pilipino, galit sya dahil di sya mahal ng masa. kahit kami tahimik kami mga mamayan pera kami kaisa ng mga taong nakikita ang paghihirap at grap corruption ng gobyerno. tahimik kami pagkat di kami sangayon sa makasariling kapakakanan ng namumuno ngayun,kapit tuko sa mga galamay nya…… tamaan ng tamaan pero ramdam ang matinding kurakot sa regimen na to. huwag naman gamitin ang pera at buwis ng mamayan para pangsupply sa mga galamay ng gobyerno arroyo.. maawaaaaaaaaaa kayo di lang kayo tao sa pilipinas >>>
di nyo madadala ang kasakiman sa ibang mundo …salamat sa bloggg at ngayun llang nakapag comment
December 5th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
if you r filipino nation sa tingin nyo ba si gloria makapilipino, mas priotized nito mga foreigner not poor pilipino, galit sya dahil di sya mahal ng masa. kahit kami tahimik kami mga mamayan pera kami kaisa ng mga taong nakikita ang paghihirap at grap corruption ng gobyerno. tahimik kami pagkat di kami sangayon sa makasariling kapakakanan ng namumuno ngayun,kapit tuko sa mga galamay nya…… tamaan ng tamaan pero ramdam ang matinding kurakot sa regimen na to. huwag naman gamitin ang pera at buwis ng mamayan para pangsupply sa mga galamay ng gobyerno arroyo.. maawaaaaaaaaaa kayo di lang kayo tao sa pilipinas >>>
di nyo madadala ang kasakiman sa ibang mundo …salamat sa bloggg at ngayun lang ako nakapag comment tagal na akong nabubuwisit sa regimen ni gloria
December 5th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
jeri…
narrapat lang gawin yun kay gloria, hindi na manganda pamamalakad nya, lahat ng mga linta sa likuran nya ang nakikinabang ng mga pamumudod nya ng pera, ultimo mga general dito ay nagkakarioon
December 5th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Hi Salina,
Siguro napaka perpekto mong tao kaya kung makapagsalita ka laban sa pangulo parang wala kang kasalanan sa mundo na nagawa. Parang ang galing mo na parang hindi rin.
Alam mo kung bakit ko nasasabi ito, kasi parang iisa lang ang solusyon mo para mapaunlad ang bansa, ang magpatalsik, palpak naman.
Ayos sana ang mga idea mo kaso ang mga kasangga mo yata ay mas gahaman pa sa kapangyarihan.
Instead na tumutulong na lang sa mga mahihirap nanggugulo pa.
Ang dapat kailangan mo munang gawin ay tumingin sa salamin at aminin mo na makasalan ka.
Yun ang dapat!
December 5th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
“Jossher you can continue playing the idealism card.”
You are the first person I have heard in my entire life that says idealism is or morals for that matter are bad.
“Jossher but if you use a little more common sense you will realize that Trillanes and Lim were ESCAPED FUGITIVES.”
Fugitive? The term “fugitive” as in fuigitive from justice means “a person convicted a crime who hides from the law.” Apparently, in your world Trillanes is already guilty before a court of competent jurisdiction declares him to be such. Apparently, you also missed the class on a person’s right to be “presumed innocent” until proven otherwise.
“they were committing a crime in inflagrante delicto.” Which crime was that? You say sedition? Art. 139, RPC will tell you different. Know the legal elements of the law first before you accuse people of crimes.
“possession of firearms”…was Triallanes in possession of a firearm? There is no such crime as possession of a firearm by osmosis.
“trespassing”? Art. 280 and 281, the only law on trespass requires that it be a dwelling. Is the lobby of the Manila Pen a dwelling? The other kind of trespass requires that it be a “closed premises or the fenced estate of another.” As far as I know, the Manila pen was open at that time.
“As for the media arrests it strikes me that they were subject to due process of law, any searches and seizures considering the cirumstances were reasonable, and they were right smack dab in the middle of a crime scene.
Due process means the right to be heard (in court) before one is arrested or incarcerated. Which constitutional standard of reasonableness are you referring to? I’m not even sure if they still do that in the former communist block.
I still have to read a case penned by the Philippine or U.S. Supreme Court which espouses such a standard.
“But please consider first who you would consider a good president.”
How about Ramon Magsaysay? Manuel Quezon, Sergio Osmena and Manuel Roxas. Fidel Ramos, even with the corruption, was a way better President than GMA. At least Ming Ramos had the decency to stay away from government projects.
“Jossher as long as you and people like you keep sticking your heads in the sand as to the root causes of the problem by simply blaming politicians for their lack of morality, expect this country to continue going nowhere.”
So you think congratulating them for stealing the electoral process and government money is the answer? It is not only our right to blame them but it is our duty to tell them if they are VIOLATING THE LAW. No one, including “your beloved politicians,” are above the law.
How about you? What have you done to help the country? Play the stock market? You are not even investing long term enough to help the capital market in the Philippines which up to now is one of the smallest stock exchanges in the world. You think the Philippine stock exchange is full of honest people? I know politicians and corrupt businessmen from the time of Marcos up to now who play up the prices and hurt legitimate investors.
From your statement: “I was making money yesterday riding my stock positions higher on a global rebound in the financial markets but then that irritating idiot Trillanes crawled out from the hole he was banished to and lost me some dough. Why do people support such morons?” It appears that you only think about yourself and your profits. Clearly a SELFISH individual who does not care about his country and his fellowmen. Now I understand why you seem not to like the “morality” and “idealism” arguments.
“For those uneducated people out there without capital I feel sympathy. I presume, however, those of you reading this with your internet connections are educated and for you there is no excuse.”
You also seem to have some sort of “superiority complex” bordering on narcisistic tendencies. Looking down at people by reason of their low educational level or financial inability, just shows the kind of values you were taught. It’s sad.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:26 am
Jossher
ano kaya ang intensyon ni trillanes sa manila pen, magkape, nakakatawa naman, ano yan lokohan……….
yon na nga eh, bakit may mga baril at armalite kung magkakape lang, sana inwan na lang sa kampo o bahay nila, hindi pa sila mangangamba gamitin ng iba…….
edsa 1 is a revolution not a rally, nagkataon lang na marami na ang sawa kay marcos. enrile, ramos, gringo were then considered as rebels, may mga self interest din yung mga yan kaya tuloy pa rin coup nila noon kay cory…………
nakita mo reaksyon ng security ng manila pen, namumutla ng pwersahan nilang basagin ang pinto para makapasok, ano ang laban ng mama sa armalite…….
tapos pag pinakitaan sila ng tangke sasabihin ‘overkill’ ano ang dapat ipapakita, tirador. buti nga yung tear gas hindi expired, gumagana…….
ok lang ba na sila ang maglamang kapwa, you should also condemn what they did to that poor security, the way they force themselves into the hotel……
bakit kailangan pang bumaba si trillanes at mag fashion show para lang palabasin ang mga hotel guest, what is their original intention, innocent warm bodies to shield them, di ba………….
ay, public statement or press conference pala, akala ko magkakape lang, sorry……
do you honestly believe on what you are saying………
gma cannot declare martial law like marcos did, there are now checks and balances before she can do it…………
yan ang pinoy, inaapi na nakatawa pa. antay antay lang tayo, hindi si trillanes ang savior ng pinas, don’t choose between two evils………
may lalabas at lalabas ding taong karapat dapat na mamuno sa atin……….
lets us all pray for the betterment of our people and country………
December 5th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Eureka
Sorry for the third consecutive post but I was catching up on all that was said previously.
“Apparently, you were absent when they taught the Constitution in Social Studies and Philippine History at your school:
“Sec. 1. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law…”; “Sec. 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, …against unreasonable searches and seizures of whatever nature and for any purpose shall be inviolable, and no…warrant of arrest shall issue except upon probable cause to be determined personally by the judge…”
“Sec. 4. No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances.”
Why thank you for the civics and constitutional law lesson Jossher but if you use a little more common sense you will realize that Trillanes and Lim were ESCAPED FUGITIVES. They do not need to be served arrest warrants. Furthermore they were committing a crime in inflagrante delicto. Sedition comes to mind but if you want nitty gritty escaping from arrest, possession of firearms, trespassing, and creating a public disturbance can easily be thrown in, maybe even economic sabotage. Are you seriously going to question the illegality of Trillanes and Company’s actions???
As for the media arrests it strikes me that they were subject to due process of law, any searches and seizures considering the cirumstances were reasonable, and they were right smack dab in the middle of a crime scene. Media who were outside were not detained. Moreover, they were released pretty quickly and are free to protest their detention.
I don’t see the problem.
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You didn’t see a problem because you don’t want to see it. Just like Gloria Arroyo, She keep saying to follow the rules of law; But, Yet she’s the one shitting the rules of law; Sa dami ng kasalanan niya sa tao bayan only rules of force can set her free. She’s the one should be in jail for all the corruption she has been doing. But, That will never happen because she control the entire corrupt justice system.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:40 am
royburke
clipmaster
chong, itaas naman natin ang antas ng ating kamalayan..pwede bang labanan ng ilang may baril ang kahit isang batalyon lang na sundalo? kung ikaw ba may hawak na itak at nananawagan kang baguhin ang liderato ng bansa, pwede ka nang kasuhan ng rebelyon? sa mandaluyong ka dapat, hindi sa munti at kasama mo ang mga taga DOJ..hehe..
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chong ,t*a*n*g*a ang kasi ang idol mo eh, nakakahiya, graduate pa naman ng pma…….
singkwentang lang kasma niya, akala mo kung sino nagtatapang tapangan, wala din palang B*A*Y*A*G……….
magdalo pa ang pangalan ng grupo nila, baka bumangaon si gat adres bonificacio sa kabaklaan niya……….
kwento ko pa ba syo ginawang laban ni bonifacio, yan ang matapang na tao, maski itak lang at battalyon ang kalaban, eh si idol mo, tear gas pa lang, bahag na ang buntot………
puro pasarap kasi gusto ng idol mo, tignan mo ang mga magsasaka naglakad galing bukindnon hanggang pasay, yan ang mga taong may principyo, dapat hangaan, tunay na bayani………….
yung idol mo ano, pa coup coup sa oakwood, manila pen, soysyal ah, o ngayon dadalhin sila new bilibid hotel………
punta ka doon at doon ninyo ituloy ang laban mong idol, baka sakaling maibaksak na ninyo si gma………..
mamulat ka sana sa katotohanang manloloko si idol mo………..
baka mas matitino pa tao sa loob ng mandaluyong kaysa idol mo, hindi sila mag rerebelyon kung 50 tao lang sila…………
sumuporta ka ba sa manila pen, baka hindi, sayang………..
sana magkasama na kayo ni idol at nakahingi ka ng autograp o nagpa kodak kasama niya………..
may mga pamamaraan para pailitan si gma, wag naman yung oraorada, gusto nasa limelight agad………
antay antay lang tayo, 3 taong patay na si ninoy, edsa 1, ang haba ng impeachment trial ni erap, puyat tayo sa kakasubaybay, edsa 2, mamukat mukat mo 2010, election na……….
huwag daanin sa dahas…………
December 5th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Ahh finally the blogsite is being filtered. The discussion was degrading into a flame war and the recently lack of editing prodded me to fight fire with fire. Apologies to John and Manuel for the tit for tat I had to respond to less civilized individuals in this blog.
In any case, it doesn’t matter. If this government does not change it ways and eradicate corruption, Gloria administration has a great danger of falling just like the Erap administration. Expect more natural and man-made calamities to come in the future if corruption is not addressed.
Other major concerns are the destruction of our environment. pollution, and general state of consciousness of the populace still treating money as god and also exploiting and abusing his fellowman and nature.
Take heed this warning, what has to happen will happen unless these evil ways are changed.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:06 am
abbygail
i read in one of the columns in inquirer, the reasons why trillanes’ caper failed:
1. the weather was bad…it was raining. the previous 2 edsas were held february, no rains. pinoys hate to be wet from rain.
2. it was held nearing a weekend, when people are busy preparing for long vacation.
3. nov. dec. are bonus months. people are busy shopping, etc. since they have money from remittance or from bonuses.
lessons….learn from history, have a plan and execute it. and if need be, DIE FOR YOUR CAUSE!
akala ko ba may mpa public policy planning from up yung idol nyo? ngek! try again!
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Don’t worry, We will. The game is not over until is over. You can hide under fake President of cebu when that happen. We’re going to throw her ass in the stinky pasig river.
December 5th, 2007 at 7:27 am
Jossher
“GMA is a good president believe it or not.”
Apparently, your standards for a President of a democratic country are very low.
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Good on what? Robbing the country.
Who’s you talking too? regarding standard for President are very low? I hope not me>.
For as long as Gloria Arroyo, The one squatting in Malacanyang Palace, The Philippines can’t move forward. Because she’s the problem!!!
December 5th, 2007 at 3:48 am
czar matthew
log on to http://www.snap08.blogspot.com and signed for the resignation of gloria and noli.
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Sir! Nothing good will happen to your pitition. I already said it before if only they listen to me. This things never happen. Dapat sana all system go! to kick the fake President of cebu.
Think twice before doing what you’re doing. As we all can see it she control the entire corrupt justice system. She have plenty of money to buy them off anything you say, or do will be judge by her corrupt cronies. If you really want to get rid of her do something useful.
to anybody who curious about this site. don’t click the sign because you just never know who’s this site belong too. It could be the enemy site. Watch out. They already highjack my computer. Thats enough to warn me. Thats!
December 5th, 2007 at 2:31 am
Di sana nabulilyaso ang balak niya sa Manila Pen.
Trillanes: Haler! Mga Magdalesh! Musta na? Handa na ba ang mga chenelyn chorva?
Magdalo: Ay naku Mader! Handang-handa na… Jusko kamusta naman ang beauty namin ang hirap asikasuhin ang mga chuva ek ek!
Trillanes: Ay vongga mga sisters! Wag kalimutang ipaglandi sa mga chuva ang mga project ever natin tomorrow, okay?! Pakita natin sa mga antibiotic na chaka at ng kanyang federasyon niya… Sige rampa ko follow ever nalang kayo, ha Sige babush! Mwaah!
Magdalo: Whatever, whatever.
December 5th, 2007 at 1:11 am
I agree completely with Jossher. Morality is the linchpin of a civil and righteous society. A morally upright society will be a strong society economically, politically and even militarily.
Most wars are won by the more morally upright side.
But dont confuse a skirmish or a battle with the whole war.
The actions of Sen. Trillanes is just a minor skirmish. This political war is far from over. And only history will judge the final winner.
December 4th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
what some people are proposing is anarchy. but then, you will tell me again that i am for status quo bec. i love gma….w/c is stupid & ridiculous!
what we want is certainly not uncertainty. what you offer us is the dark ages & anarchy.
will you feed us if we go hungry? what is your roadmap if you remove gma and co.?
trillanes gave you a plan of action? no one came among his alleged 11M voters.
people are wise enough to see through his 2010 plans (in your dreams, man).
December 4th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
clipmaster
chong, itaas naman natin ang antas ng ating kamalayan..pwede bang labanan ng ilang may baril ang kahit isang batalyon lang na sundalo? kung ikaw ba may hawak na itak at nananawagan kang baguhin ang liderato ng bansa, pwede ka nang kasuhan ng rebelyon? sa mandaluyong ka dapat, hindi sa munti at kasama mo ang mga taga DOJ..hehe..
December 4th, 2007 at 10:42 pm
natros
To kakosa, salina et. al:
Kong totoong ayaw mong sumuporta sa mga sinungaling at mandaraya eh bakit ka susuporta kay Trillanes? Sabi ni Trillanes para sa taongbayan ang kanyang ginawa, halimbawa pag mag-alisan ang mga investors dahil sa kaguluhan ng kanyang rebelyon di ba tiyak maraming mawawalan ng trabaho at magugutom? Binoto siya upang maging senador at gumawa ng mga batas para sa kabutihan ng bayan hindi para mag-aklas. Mandaraya siya!!!
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i agree……
mas kawawa ang mga naloko at nabola niyang sundalo sumama sa manila pen…..
mga magdalo rin, kapatid sa servisyo, ipinahamak niya, paano na kakain ang mga umaasa sa mga sundalong ito……..
wala siyang pakialam sa buhay ng iba basta maisulong lang niya ang kanyang sariling interest………
December 4th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
i read in one of the columns in inquirer, the reasons why trillanes’ caper failed:
1. the weather was bad…it was raining. the previous 2 edsas were held february, no rains. pinoys hate to be wet from rain.
2. it was held nearing a weekend, when people are busy preparing for long vacation.
3. nov. dec. are bonus months. people are busy shopping, etc. since they have money from remittance or from bonuses.
lessons….learn from history, have a plan and execute it. and if need be, DIE FOR YOUR CAUSE!
akala ko ba may mpa public policy planning from up yung idol nyo? ngek! try again!
December 4th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
as i wrote previously, based on the singapore experience, the govt pays their officials handsomely and give them more than adequate benefits, hence they only worry about doing their best in their job, nothing else. i agree w/ the above when he said there is no justification for stealing if your salary is a pittance….correct. so the next best thing you can do is take away the opportunity for corruption, w/c is very low pay. why let good people shy away from serving the govt.? do you like incompetents only to serve our country?
eureka has a point….as you have a point.
i can see both your points though.
jojo…you are funny
clipmaster…oo nga. meron ditong blogger na walang ethics. walang galang.
seriously, i agree w/ most of what you write. keep writing…
tonio, republika, bopols, keep on writing. expect a coming soon movie “trillanes, mahilig mag-Pen-desaraPen ”
to jossher…..suggest to manolo and john, to have a separate blog re your issue…whether trillanes staged a mutiny, revolt, revolution, coup, o nag-kape lang, whatever! we also read the rpc, constitution and all, ok? my family has lawyers too to help me. but it all depends on who is reading and interpreting it!
lahat marunong eh!
to whom it may concern…ok, i won’t mind the spelling, like you said “after all no one perfect” :-)) sige na nga!
December 4th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Let’s start joining our hands to stop this word war, lets love peacemaker and hate warfreak.
Pray.
Study hard.
Do our job very well.
December 4th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Instead of blaming the best president in our country so far why not help him, help our family, help ourselves, pray for them, pray and help for the poor, study hard, work hard.
Of course make peace and make love.
Stop hate, stop war.
December 4th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
– pinapasabi ni “kuya” cj, thank you ‘abbygail’… for saying that he ‘thinks’ daw…
well anyway, at first, this person was watching TV. and this person thought that something out of the ordinary will ensue. things like seeng shots fly, sparks ignite, witnessing HE grenades crackle through the quiet Makati streets, flashbangs polluting the lighted atmosphere.
this person was wrong.
it would have been nice to see real CounterStrike on TV, given commonly the war-freaks some Filipinos are.
then parents can say ‘o anak, yan ang sinasabi ko na tungkol sa CS. mag-DOTA ka na lang, dahil hindi pa nagagawa ito sa totoong buhay eh. at least, not now.’
wala pa namang ‘first blood’ dito.
forgive my useless post.
(and I hope Brando De Leon is still alive and doing well)
December 4th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
not a fan of GMA..pro npakabulok ang opposition..trillianes is the most rotten.. EGOISTIC..ang bastos,kita nyo ba paano sila pwersahang pumasok sa hotel..and what about mayor binay?binaboy na nman ung syudad mo!!
December 4th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
yahooooooooooooooooo eto na naman….eeksena na naman ang mga IMBESTIGADOR!!!!!! hahahaha patawa talaga tong senado…mag-iimbestiga na naamn sila….ILEGAL DAW ANG CURFEW!!!! PERO TEKA, SINO ANG PUMIRMA SA RESOLUTION???? MGA OPPOSITION!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
nakakatawa, kung meron mang nagreklamo sa curfew…yun ay mga opposition lang…yung mga mamayan na ayaw ng manggulo…at nagtatrabaho sa gabi…WALANG REKLAMO!!!!!! DAHIL WALA NAMAN NEGATIVE EFFECT!!!!! MAGPAKITA KA LANG NG ID OK KA NA!!!!!
Hay….ang opposition nga naman….mahirap talaga pag malaki pangangailangan ng politiko…lahat na lang kakainin…PATI EBAK KAKAININ SIGURADO NG MGA TO hahahahahaha
TAPOS SUSUBO SA MGA SUMUSUPORTA SA KANILA…LAMON NAMAN NG EBAK ANG MGA SUPORTERS BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
December 4th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Chris,
Majority of the filipino people cares about the Philippines so much…we love our country so dearly…THATS THE REASON WHY NOBODY SUPPORTED TRILLANES AND HIS COHORTS ANYMORE…the Opposition has been claiming to have majority of the filipino people SUPPORTS THEM…WHAT MAJORITY ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT??? ANG IBIG NILANG SABIHIN MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN MANILA NA BINABAYARAN NILA PARA MAGRALLY!!!!
The truth is…THE FILIPINO PEOPLE NO LONGER BELIEVES THAT ANYONE IN THE OPPOSITION CAN LEAD OUR COUNTRY BETTER…YES, GMA IS NOT THE BEST PRESIDENT…SHE HAS STUPID ADVISERS WITH HER…SHE HAS LOTS OF SHORTCOMINGS….HOWEVER, IF WE FOCUS OUR ATTENTION TO THE OPPO