In my column today, I tried my hand at reading public opinion on graft and corruption under GMA — and why more people haven’t taken to the streets. (I actually did the reading last Thursday, before the Rotary Club of Manila, on the same day as the Trillanes caper.)
I sifted through the findings of three surveys, but essentially the attempt is a meditation on the latest (October 2007) Pulse Asia poll. These findings, in particular:
(Please click on the images to enlarge them.)
The conclusion I reached (and of course I am aware I could have gotten things fundamentally wrong) suggests that Ping Lacson’s latest attempt to disclose another corruption scandal still won’t force people out into the streets.
The lesson for regime-changers: Corruption scandals do not prematurely bring down an administration, but proof of something else entirely — brazen fraud, gross impunity, lewd dancing in the halls of the Senate.
This also suggests that suspending the high-profile Senate hearings on the ZTE case, where revelations not only of corruption but of obvious duplicity or gross arrogance were a real possibility, was a strategic mistake on the part of the opposition.
What do you think? More to the point, what kind of brazenness, similar to the “na-onse tayo” vote on the second Velarde envelope, would set the streets on fire?
December 27th, 2007 at 11:12 am
@Salina,
One thing im sure, your company is not paying you for your english proficiency or your computer skills hehehe… Peace na! Christmas na e!
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Thats for sure! He he he,. But, I’ll guarantee you I’m making enough money. Eat your heart out. John:
December 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
@Salina,
One thing im sure, your company is not paying you for your english proficiency or your computer skills hehehe… Peace na! Christmas na e!
December 26th, 2007 at 12:31 am
Adios Pandak says:
lOkay, Okay, People lets see how smart you really are,. Are you making more than $75,000. Dollars annually? If so! You’re better than me. If not! I pity you for insulting me.
Belat ni Gloria says:
John: She don’t care if you call her stupid. because she make more money than you!
Salina says:
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. I heard it before. I’m stupid! What can I say! I was born stupid.
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she’s earning a lot of money…….
she can’t even earn the respect of single blogger…….
she create clones to sympathize with each other……..
money can’t buy everything……
kawawang nilalang…….
December 25th, 2007 at 10:51 am
John
Salina,
You’re dumber than i thought. Davide swore in GMA to prevent anarchy and chaos in the streets. When the position of the Pres was declared vacant, sino ba ang next in line according to the constitution? si Pimentel ba? or si Davide ba? nde! He precisely followed the rule of law as stated in the constitution. For the sake of your stupid arguments, please say MORE to entertain the readers!
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. I heard it before. I’m stupid! What can I say! I was born stupid.
December 25th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Bert
talo naman ako riyan, kunti na lang laman ng utak ko! natuyo na sa kababasa kay salina, hehehehehe.
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Sus! Nobody asking you to read all her posting! Whatever you’re getting you deserve it. Ah, Don’t tell me. You can’t understand her english. Duh…..
December 25th, 2007 at 10:45 am
John
Salina,
You’re dumber than i thought. Davide swore in GMA to prevent anarchy and chaos in the streets. When the position of the Pres was declared vacant, sino ba ang next in line according to the constitution? si Pimentel ba? or si Davide ba? nde! He precisely followed the rule of law as stated in the constitution. For the sake of your stupid arguments, please say MORE to entertain the readers!
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John: She don’t care if you call her stupid. because she make more money than you!
December 24th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
loigialaarni
salina, pandak, belat ni gloria
magtagalog ka na lang, mali mali naman ang ingles mo eh. Idolo mo talaga si erap.
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Okay, Okay, People lets see how smart you really are,. Are you making more than $75,000. Dollars annually? If so! You’re better than me. If not! I pity you for insulting me.
December 24th, 2007 at 10:56 am
To, Abby: Its true I can’t write english very well. But I’m making more money than you. If you’re making more than $75,000. Dollar a annually I guess you’re better than me. Is that enough to make you mad, Somebody like me who can’t write english are making more money. HA HA! And by the way, I’m not an OFW!
December 24th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Bert
Hi, Cheers!
We are NATO, and you felt entertained by us. That’s good. But you sound so serious, as if our senseless yak didn’t entarteain you at all. You said our views are not analytical, you mean compared to your views? So, you are analysing the blogs of us ignoramus, and decided we are entertaining. Thanks. Maybe you are analysing so much, so much that you failed to see the real realities in this world and politics. Oh, of course you see the results, that’s easy to see. You see it, and you read it. You see that our dollars can be converted to fewer and fewer pesos, a fact you and your beloved gov’t. officials are proud of. You see that fewer pesos in our pocket is hardly enough to buy fewer galunggong, and just enough for a quarter kilo of sugar instead of a kilo. Because the so called improved economy you are crowing about had ballooned the prices of everything. And our wages remains in hybernation. That is the actual reality in this world your analytical mind cannot comprehend. You read what the ADB executives told your president, yeah, right. Those ADB executives who daily feasted on sirloin steaks and never heard of what a galunggong is, who bought sugar by the truckloads instead of a quarter kilo. And that’s because, as you said, GMA had taken some risks unpopular to all, which also make her unpopular to all, aside, of course, from other more serious reasons. And you don’t get those real reasons why that is so, inspite of your analytical acumen? And inspite of your level of intelligence as compared to our level of ignorance? Maybe Engkanto is right after all in agreeing with me that idiots like me and him are filling this world
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Bert: They’re not talking about you. I’m the one they’re insulting because I can’t write english very well. They’re telling me to write tagalog instead. And not try harder on learning how to write english. These idiots are hypocrites! Atleast I’m doing my best to write english. How can I learn If I’m not going to try!
December 24th, 2007 at 10:39 am
abbygail
to clipmaster…you are right. foremost, we have to be true to ourselves. what is this reader’s objective in having different names? takot sa sariling image…to make it appear she/he has many readers in agreement w/ his opinions. sino ang mandaraya ngayon?
di ba sya rin si pandak & tell it like it is?
to loigialaarni….oo nga. dapat mag-tagalog na lang sya, nakakahilo ano?
to john…tama ka, we are being entertained by this writer w/ many aliases…
why do people refuse to go out into the streets? a columnist in standard said its bec. the opposition is equally morally bankrupt, hence people are wary of them as alternative to gma.
cory, trillanes 2X, priests, binay(kahit na may bitbit), black and blue movement, et.al…were unsuccessful in letting people out into the streets..
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Are you trying to tell me, That you’re better than me just because you can write english very well? You sounded exactly like Gloria Arroyo, You must be her daugther Luli. You’re hypocrites!
December 24th, 2007 at 12:35 am
Back to the main topic. If the GMA’s appointees in the Supreme Court be so brazen enough to be able to influence the whole court to give bias decisions, then hotels and the streets, including the Pasig River, will rise in flame.
December 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pm
talo naman ako riyan, kunti na lang laman ng utak ko! natuyo na sa kababasa kay salina, hehehehehe.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:01 am
salina, pandak, belat ni gloria … o tamo humirit ka nanaman ng kalabaw na ingles. Pero okay din para meron nagpapatawa sa amin. Ako nga di kagalingan sa ingles kaya tagalog ang komento ko, sana kayo din, wag ng trying hard mga ‘tol. Daanin na lang natin sa nilalaman ng utak.
December 17th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
loigialaarni
salina, pandak, belat ni gloria
magtagalog ka na lang, mali mali naman ang ingles mo eh. Idolo mo talaga si erap.
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What your problem Lady! You don’t have anything else to do except insulting me. If you can do better come one lets hear it.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:25 am
hiram1104
Salina
The Emir of Kuwait has just spared the life of Ranario through the iintercession of PGMA. Did you know if Chiz, Legarda or Thrilla have done anything to save the life of an OFW?
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I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU! GLORIA ARROYO, IS THE ONE WHO DONE THAT. THE PEOPLE IN PHILIPPINES EMBASSY THE ONE WHO DID THE WORK. GLORIA ARROYO, JUST GOT THE CREDIT FOR IT. IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME, ASKED THEM.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:13 am
to clipmaster…you are right. foremost, we have to be true to ourselves. what is this reader’s objective in having different names? takot sa sariling image…to make it appear she/he has many readers in agreement w/ his opinions. sino ang mandaraya ngayon?
di ba sya rin si pandak & tell it like it is?
to loigialaarni….oo nga. dapat mag-tagalog na lang sya, nakakahilo ano?
to john…tama ka, we are being entertained by this writer w/ many aliases…
why do people refuse to go out into the streets? a columnist in standard said its bec. the opposition is equally morally bankrupt, hence people are wary of them as alternative to gma.
cory, trillanes 2X, priests, binay(kahit na may bitbit), black and blue movement, et.al…were unsuccessful in letting people out into the streets..
December 17th, 2007 at 8:59 am
salina, pandak, belat ni gloria
magtagalog ka na lang, mali mali naman ang ingles mo eh. Idolo mo talaga si erap.
December 15th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Hi, Cheers!
We are NATO, and you felt entertained by us. That’s good. But you sound so serious, as if our senseless yak didn’t entarteain you at all. You said our views are not analytical, you mean compared to your views? So, you are analysing the blogs of us ignoramus, and decided we are entertaining. Thanks. Maybe you are analysing so much, so much that you failed to see the real realities in this world and politics. Oh, of course you see the results, that’s easy to see. You see it, and you read it. You see that our dollars can be converted to fewer and fewer pesos, a fact you and your beloved gov’t. officials are proud of. You see that fewer pesos in our pocket is hardly enough to buy fewer galunggong, and just enough for a quarter kilo of sugar instead of a kilo. Because the so called improved economy you are crowing about had ballooned the prices of everything. And our wages remains in hybernation. That is the actual reality in this world your analytical mind cannot comprehend. You read what the ADB executives told your president, yeah, right. Those ADB executives who daily feasted on sirloin steaks and never heard of what a galunggong is, who bought sugar by the truckloads instead of a quarter kilo. And that’s because, as you said, GMA had taken some risks unpopular to all, which also make her unpopular to all, aside, of course, from other more serious reasons. And you don’t get those real reasons why that is so, inspite of your analytical acumen? And inspite of your level of intelligence as compared to our level of ignorance? Maybe Engkanto is right after all in agreeing with me that idiots like me and him are filling this world
December 13th, 2007 at 9:16 am
John
Salina,
You’re dumber than i thought. Davide swore in GMA to prevent anarchy and chaos in the streets. When the position of the Pres was declared vacant, sino ba ang next in line according to the constitution? si Pimentel ba? or si Davide ba? nde! He precisely followed the rule of law as stated in the constitution. For the sake of your stupid arguments, please say MORE to entertain the readers!
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Sorry! Mister: It doesnt’ matter what you say. They’re all corrupted. Especially the one squatting in malacanyang palace. Names calling, Look your self in the mirror.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
Salina,
You’re dumber than i thought. Davide swore in GMA to prevent anarchy and chaos in the streets. When the position of the Pres was declared vacant, sino ba ang next in line according to the constitution? si Pimentel ba? or si Davide ba? nde! He precisely followed the rule of law as stated in the constitution. For the sake of your stupid arguments, please say MORE to entertain the readers!
December 12th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
Tell it like it is….
clipmaster
Belat ni Gloria
By the way it doesn’t matter how you want to stop the people who’s speaking the truth against the FAKE PRESIDENT GLORIA ARROYO, TRUTH WILL ALWAY COME OUT. AND YOU KNEW IT. IT JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY SUCCEED ON KICKEN HER ASS FROM HER STOLEN POWER.
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the truth is ’salina’ and ‘belat ni gloria’ is the same………….
same line of thoughts, penned by two different persons………….
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Who cares!
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kunwari ay maraming sumasanga-yon sa mga postings niya, kaya may ibang aliases……
woooow, parang flying voter, maraming pangalan……….
be true to yourself first, before declaring that you are saying the truth………
we are all after the truth……….
December 12th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
clipmaster
Belat ni Gloria
By the way it doesn’t matter how you want to stop the people who’s speaking the truth against the FAKE PRESIDENT GLORIA ARROYO, TRUTH WILL ALWAY COME OUT. AND YOU KNEW IT. IT JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY SUCCEED ON KICKEN HER ASS FROM HER STOLEN POWER.
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the truth is ’salina’ and ‘belat ni gloria’ is the same………….
same line of thoughts, penned by two different persons………….
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Who cares!
December 12th, 2007 at 7:27 am
Belat ni Gloria
By the way it doesn’t matter how you want to stop the people who’s speaking the truth against the FAKE PRESIDENT GLORIA ARROYO, TRUTH WILL ALWAY COME OUT. AND YOU KNEW IT. IT JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY SUCCEED ON KICKEN HER ASS FROM HER STOLEN POWER.
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the truth is ’salina’ and ‘belat ni gloria’ is the same………….
same line of thoughts, penned by two different persons………….
December 12th, 2007 at 7:21 am
salina
How about, Legarda/Chiz/Trillanes/Lacson. They’re my choice for President vice President.
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make up your mind, 4 persons for 2 positions……..
ganito ba ang ballota mo………
PRESIDENT #1 ____________________
PRESIDENT #2_____________________
VICE PRES #1 _____________________
VICE PRES #2 _____________________
sa amin ganito lang eh…………….
PRESIDENT ______________________
VICE PRES _______________________
mukhang gusto mo lamang ka lagi……
December 10th, 2007 at 11:29 pm
I’ve seen most of inputs which are more of an entertainment rather analytical views.
The qualty of some of the arguments speaks of the level of ignorance among our kababayan’s in the reality of this world and politics.
Managing country is more complex and yet achievable. The important that you guys have to understand is the intent of certain decision. We know very well ( at least I know) that there is no decision in this world that is perfect. It is always a choice between the level of risk and returns. At least GMA take some risks eventhough it is unpopular to all , but hey look at the result. Even ADB’s executive are recognising it.
Our politocos including those in the Senate are the worst the we have. Perhaps, instead of criticisng GMA, why not point your gun at those Senators, Congressman and even local official that sleeping on their jobs. They don’t commit mistake because they don’t take any position on issues. At si GMA have guts to do it.
Kayo, meron ba kayo. Puro talk lang pero no Action. Parang NATO ( No Action Talk Only).
December 10th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Salina
The Emir of Kuwait has just spared the life of Ranario through the iintercession of PGMA. Did you know if Chiz, Legarda or Thrilla have done anything to save the life of an OFW?
December 10th, 2007 at 7:17 am
salina
UPDATE) Arroyo won’t fly to Kuwait
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she won’t fly to kuwait. Because she’s afraid doon siya mamatay.waaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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(UPDATE) hindi siya lumipad, sumakay siya ng airplane to kuwait………..
sino ang sinungaling…………
sino ang tunay na biliw………..
December 9th, 2007 at 5:51 am
There is lots of people were saying who will replace her. My goodness! Marami. They make it sound like there is no other option to replace the corrupt Gloria Arrovo.
As we all know she’s not going to step down in 2010. They were saying that when the time comes near 2010 she’s going to declare Martial law. Thats means there is going to be alot of people going to get kill. Because there would be more booming in order for her to declare Martial law.
December 9th, 2007 at 2:44 am
By the way it doesn’t matter how you want to stop the people who’s speaking the truth against the FAKE PRESIDENT GLORIA ARROYO, TRUTH WILL ALWAY COME OUT. AND YOU KNEW IT. IT JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY SUCCEED ON KICKEN HER ASS FROM HER STOLEN POWER.
December 8th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
we have been stricken w/ a disease called people power fatigue. sort of 3rd degree trauma…that it will take maybe a thousand clarissa ocampos for them to be out in the streets….we know this adm. is corrupt, but, the opposition is the same.
To mc_90, clipmaster. bopols, natros…you are correct.
the fear in everyone’s heart….who in the opposition can we trust? they have big problems re credibility too…
Fr. Joaquin Bernas…..i like him too, but, can we convince him? someone asked him about it before, but he turned it down.
Hilario Davide is a good choice too….(to those who say he is corrupt, you are mistaken!) i know some people who are close to him and they say he is honest, simple and very prayerful.
to John…..yes, Belmonte is a good choice too, but, not known nationally, but he is a very good administrator and fiscal manager.
i agree w/ you john, re Davide….
i had a good laugh when you wrote”sana wag dumami lahi nya” ;-))
to clipmaster….better ask her if you are the one being referred to?, wrong spelling naging hanger? ;-))
December 7th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
salina
Manny/John: what are you afraid by blocking my posting? I guess you’re afraid somebody read what I post. You know damn well everything I post is true! I guess its ok to support the fake, corrupt President of cebu. Its ok. Her worse nighmare will come.
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ang dami dami mong nga post, reklamo ka pa…………
para kang media, reklamador………
kung ako si manny o john, iiblock ko lahat ng post mo eh………
maski ano topic, saan man blog, iisa lang naman sinasabi mo……..
ala katoria toria……….
puro tama ka, eh wala ka namang ebidensya sinasabi, totoo pandak si gloria……..
puno naman ng utak ang ulo, eh si idol mong si erap o kaya si trillanes, pati ikaw, ano kaya ang laman………
December 7th, 2007 at 2:17 am
Bopols
I voted for the opposition in the last senatorial elections. Initially, they were okey doing their jobs. However, after a few months, I was pssed and turned of because of the following issues that came out. First, the senate leadership and then senate inquiries without closing it. and so on…
I challenge the opposition to provide a concrete economic plan, a decent leader that can be on top of everything and show a unified opposition working together. Majority of FIlipinos already know that GMA is corrupt. That’s a given. On the other hand, Filipinos want an assurance that the opposition can provide a better economic plan in case they will be in power. Do these three issues i enumerated and I think it’s a sure fire formula for success in whatever undertaking the opposition will do plus the support of people power.
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You vote didn’t go to waste. They’re doing their job they suppose too. What concrate economist are you talking about. Ask Gloria Arroyo, Because she’s the one squatting in Malacanyang palace. She’s the one robbing the country coffer. Why you’re not supporting the people that want to get rid of her. If you want her to continue squatting in malacanyang palace, you just had your wish. she’s not stepping down in 2010. If you think the filipino people starving now, Just wait thing is not getting better. It just getting worse.
December 7th, 2007 at 2:12 am
Manny/John: what are you afraid by blocking my posting? I guess you’re afraid somebody read what I post. You know damn well everything I post is true! I guess its ok to support the fake, corrupt President of cebu. Its ok. Her worse nighmare will come.
December 7th, 2007 at 12:14 am
salina
scorpio1104
Equally important for a regime change is the credibility of the person who will takeover the palace. The opposition is perceived to be equally corrupt and its rooster of presidentiables are balimbings and trapos to the core. The scenario of Sen. Lacson or Mayor Jojo Binay becoming President is enough to discouraged the middle class in joining another people power.
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How about, Legarda/Chiz/Trillanes/Lacson. They’re my choice for President vice President.
But, It seem like tama ako when I said Gloria Arroyo, Is not going to step down in 2010. Her cronies were dancing CHA, CHA, CHA, again.
December 7th, 2007 at 12:05 am
John
Ngayon pa lang sana magisip na tayong mga botante ng mahusay na lider. Nde naman lahat ng nasa oposisyon ay walang kwenta naniniwala pa rin akong marami tayong mahusay na lider na papalit. Example, si Sonny Belmonte. Bago sya maupo mayor, baon sa utang ang QC ngayon sobra-sobra pa income nila at no.1 city pa sila. Marami tayong option nde lang si Erap nasa atin na yan kung tatanga-tanga pa din tayong boboto.
@Salina
entire corrupt justice system?? Are you also saying Davide is corrupt?? tsk tsk… You are truly hopeless sana wag dumami lahi mo
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Yes, He is. And we all knew it too. Aside for being corrupt, He is not doing his job he suppose too. Should I say, More? We all know what happen when he swear in Gloria Arroyo, Into her stolen power as President of stinky pasig river. Hilario Davided, Jr. Is one of the people who install Gloria Arroyo, Into her stolen power. HA HA HA,…LOOK WHAT THEY’RE GETTING. A LEMON!!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 11:52 pm
salina
TAMA SI CLIPHANGER.
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ako ba tinutukoy mo……………..
December 6th, 2007 at 3:46 am
MC_90
dalawa ang kulang sa opposition:
OJECTIVITY at CREDIBILITY
OBJECTIVITY: Ano ang dahilan kung bakit nila pinapabagsak ang presidente?
1. Para sa sarili nilang interes
2. Dahil galit sila sa presidente
3. Dahil gusto nila na sila naman ang uupo sa trono..at ng sa gayon sila naman ang may kapangyarihan.
4. Definitely hindi dahil naghihirap ang pilipino
5. at definitely hindi dahil gusto nilang makatulong sa pilipinas at sa pilipino.
6. Gumagawa ng gulo ang opposition para bumagsak ang econmy…tapos isisi agad nila sa administration (lame)
Walang nakikitang OBJECTIVITY ang majority ng mamayang pilipino para supportahan sila
CREDIBILITY
Walang credibilidad ang taga opposition…bakit?
1. Nandaya daw angp residente, SINO BA ANG HINDI NANDADAYA SA ELECTION SA PILIPINAS? PATI SILA MANDARAYA
2. Magnanakaw daw ang presidente…SINO BA ANG D MAGNANAKAW NA POLITIKO NG PILIPINAS? PAREHO LANG SILANG MAGNANAKAW..MAS MALALA PA SILA
3. Kurakot daw ang administration ni GMA…EH SINO BANG ADMINISTRATION ANG HINDI KURAKOT? SUMAHIN NATIN MULA NUNG PANAHON NI AGUINALDO..SINO ANG ADMINISTRATION NA HINDI KURAKOT? PALAGAY KO YUNG KAY MAGSAYSAY LANG KASI NAMATAY SYA AGAD
4. Marami daw pinatay na militante sa administration ni GMA…EH SYMPRE KAHIT NA NPA ANG PUMATAY DUN SA MGA KADRE NILA…SASABIHIN PA DIN NG OPPOSITION NA MILITAR ANG PUMATAY para lang siraan ang administration
AT PINAKAIMPORTANTE SA LAHAT…ANG MGA NAGRARALY…AT GUSTO PABAGSAKIN ANG ADMINISTRATION….PURO MGA NASA MANILA LANG…PURO MGA GANID NA ….WALA NG IBANG GAWIN KUNDI ANG MANGGULO!!!!
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TAMA SI CLIPHANGER. BECAUSE HIS STILL HANGING UNDER DE SAYA OF PANDAK. HE IS ALSO RIGHT WHEN HE SAID THAT GLORIA ARROYO, IS DA BEST ON ROBBING THE GOV’T. COFFER,. TAKA KA!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 1:03 am
UPDATE) Arroyo won’t fly to Kuwait
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she won’t fly to kuwait. Because she’s afraid doon siya mamatay.waaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:17 am
When Manny/John:
“Say whats demoracy look like”
I’ll say, Democracy what democracy are you talking about. There is no such thing in the Philippines.
I was right on saying that. Because of what’s happening in the Philippines. Worst then MARTIAL LAW.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:13 am
Leo of Riyadh
Kabayan, sang ayon ako sa suggestion mo, FR. JOAQUIN BERNAS for President ng Transition Government.
Totoo nga na nagulo ang mga demonyo at swapang o mapagsamantalang politico nong nanalo si Among ED.
Sana meron mag umpisa para sa signature campaign para mapapayag natin si FR. JOAQUIN na maging presidente.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:37 pm
I was so greatful when I find this site, Because I have a place to post all my frustration out. But, To my dismay. This site is bias! The let the posting, Post to their liking. And delete the post they don’t like.
Aside from that, To my theory, This is where Gloria Arroyo, Goon’s getting their information. Ha Ha. I can’t stop laughing! the taxepayer’s money it just went to the trash bin. samsabida.
December 5th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
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December 5th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
Ngayon pa lang sana magisip na tayong mga botante ng mahusay na lider. Nde naman lahat ng nasa oposisyon ay walang kwenta naniniwala pa rin akong marami tayong mahusay na lider na papalit. Example, si Sonny Belmonte. Bago sya maupo mayor, baon sa utang ang QC ngayon sobra-sobra pa income nila at no.1 city pa sila. Marami tayong option nde lang si Erap nasa atin na yan kung tatanga-tanga pa din tayong boboto.
@Salina
entire corrupt justice system?? Are you also saying Davide is corrupt?? tsk tsk… You are truly hopeless sana wag dumami lahi mo
December 5th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
we deserve this hell because this is the Filipino level of righteousness. Lahat naman naging presidente eh corrupt, So okay lang. As long as we do not hold our leaders in the highest regards of accountability, we will remain in hell.
December 5th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
The Philippines has a senate?
December 5th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Siguro nga ilan na lang ang kulang na elemento para mapatalsik si GMA, at ito ay “WHO WILL REPLACE GMA” kung sakaling mapatalsik siya di ba.
It seems ready na ang lahat, CIVIL SOCIETY, MILITARY, CHURCH at iba pang grupo, kaya lang di matuloy walang GOOD CHOICE, pero sana huwag nating kalimutang lahat na si isang FAKE PRESIDENT ang dahilan ng pagkawala ng CREDIBILITY ng bansa, plus her allies at the CONGRESS na tuloy tuloy sa pagtanggap ng mga biyaya. (so the party-dancing - at the congress continues)
So I agree with BOPOLS, oppositions show somebody who can lead the country. Kung wala pa kayong naiisip, let me suggsest, FR. JOAQUIN BERNAS, constitutionalist at pari di ba, (kung papayag), itsek na lang natin performance ni father panlilio sa pampanga di ba nagulo ang mga demonyo sa politics ng pasukan ng isang pari (ha ha ha).
so birong totoo, Fr. Joaquin Bernas, for President ng Transition Government tapos saka uli bumoto ang tao, siguro naman kahit paano matututo na tayo at makakapaglagay ng mga credible government officials during the transition.
so we dare the religious leaders out there, lumabas na kayo sa sutana nyo, nakakasuka na ang gobyernong ito, MAKE A CHOICE FROM YOUR GROUP, para matapos na ang pagsasaya at party sa congress sa dami ng perang bumabaha ngayon doon
December 5th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
a scandal and controversy ridden administration does not prelude to the withdrawal of support from the masses. in most cases if the current sitting administration happens to be preceded by a scandal and controversy ridden administration also. this negate the notion of the public from supporting another leadership change in the malacanang. for the many reason a deep cultural embeded attitude system — pride. not a single public official would naturally admitted mistake in supporting such moves and justifying a change in leadership was necessary then later on would backtracked because of difference.
in some instance take the case of former vice president teofisto guingona who was once a closes ally of president arroyo and who supported the later but had a fall-out that started on the visiting forces agreement with the united states because of his patriotic views. in the succeeding events ironically he was now identified in the camp of former president estrada whom he accussed of illegally pocketing kickbacks that eventually lead to estrada’s removal from malacanang. not a single public appeareances did the former vice president had acknowledge his mistake in supporting president arroyo and removing former president estrada from malacanang.
the three branches of the goverment are created so there would have a system of check balance. apparently privilege speech has been a launching pad of tirades. in the course of aid in legislation this has been abuse because of loopholes in the privileges speech one is entitle to at. tirade but lacking in key evidence does not gain the general support of the public, moreover if one would backtracked later on. thus loosing public interests and support.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:55 am
MC_90
huwag din sana sa opposition manggaling ang sususnod na liderato………
don’t choos between two evils……….
lalo na si hotel hopping king……..
December 5th, 2007 at 11:49 am
MC_90
huwag kang mangamba sa pagpapalit ng liderato, basta maayos lang na maiisasalin………..
December 5th, 2007 at 9:40 am
scorpio1104
Equally important for a regime change is the credibility of the person who will takeover the palace. The opposition is perceived to be equally corrupt and its rooster of presidentiables are balimbings and trapos to the core. The scenario of Sen. Lacson or Mayor Jojo Binay becoming President is enough to discouraged the middle class in joining another people power.
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How about, Legarda/Chiz/Trillanes? They’re my choice for President vice President.
December 5th, 2007 at 9:36 am
Chris
hohummm…wake me up when there;s no more Philippines
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Away ko nga! If you want to sleep through it. Go ahead. Or better yet stay where you’re, You have more chance to live a better life.
December 5th, 2007 at 9:35 am
Bopols
I voted for the opposition in the last senatorial elections. Initially, they were okey doing their jobs. However, after a few months, I was pssed and turned of because of the following issues that came out. First, the senate leadership and then senate inquiries without closing it. and so on…
I challenge the opposition to provide a concrete economic plan, a decent leader that can be on top of everything and show a unified opposition working together. Majority of FIlipinos already know that GMA is corrupt. That’s a given. On the other hand, Filipinos want an assurance that the opposition can provide a better economic plan in case they will be in power. Do these three issues i enumerated and I think it’s a sure fire formula for success in whatever undertaking the opposition will do plus the support of people power.
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Your vote to the opposition is not a waste. Because they’re doing everything in their power to do their job the suppose too. The only problem with that is Gloria Arroyo/cronies won’t let them do their job. she always block them so that the truth will not come out. And if they go to the street like Sen: Trillanes, & co. Did, They too be rotten in jail. They’re playing it safe. I hope I’m right on this one.
As I said before it doesn’t matter how you do to oust Gloria Arroyo, Is not going to prosper because she control these corrup/PNP/AFP/JUDGES which is they’re the one suppose to serve and protect the filipino people,. But they’re not. They’re only protecting the corrupt Gloria Arroyo!
December 5th, 2007 at 9:17 am
For me the main reason why people did not take to the streets is because most Filipinos are still not convinced of the need to oust PGMA inspite of all the accusations hurled against her by the opposition and critics. In the first place, who will replace her in the event she is ousted? Trillanes? Erap? Jinggoy? Binay? Lacson? Can we be sure these people will not commit graft and corruption? In fact Erap was already tried and found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. On the “Hello Garci issue” we know that wiretapping is illegal and it cannot be used as evidence in any court of law. Regarding extrajudicial killings, it seems improbable that Arroyo ordered for these people to be killed.
Seguro if Trillanes had not surrendered and died fighting for his cause I feel that most people would be touched and flock to the streets but I doubt if they will succeed in ousting the President.
December 5th, 2007 at 9:08 am
I voted for the opposition in the last senatorial elections. Initially, they were okey doing their jobs. However, after a few months, I was pssed and turned of because of the following issues that came out. First, the senate leadership and then senate inquiries without closing it. and so on…
I challenge the opposition to provide a concrete economic plan, a decent leader that can be on top of everything and show a unified opposition working together. Majority of FIlipinos already know that GMA is corrupt. That’s a given. On the other hand, Filipinos want an assurance that the opposition can provide a better economic plan in case they will be in power. Do these three issues i enumerated and I think it’s a sure fire formula for success in whatever undertaking the opposition will do plus the support of people power.
December 5th, 2007 at 6:00 am
hohummm…wake me up when there;s no more Philippines
December 5th, 2007 at 5:31 am
If they really follow rules of law; In the Philippines Gloria Arroyo, El. Al. Should be in jail because there is solid evidence against them. But, This will never happen because we have a corrupt justice system. As we all can see it. These judges suppose to follow the rules of law; But yet they’re the one shitting on it. How can you justify that.
December 5th, 2007 at 3:33 am
Thats exactly what’s gonna happen, On all the corruption under the fake president Gloria Arroyo, Dancing in the senate.
Because they’re going to use EO#464 to protect them. Nothing good will happen on all of this investation because Gloria Arroyo, Control the entire corrupt judicial system.
These people who suppose to protect and serve the filipino people the one prostituted the judicial system. How can you justify that.
I’ll say, Dancing in the street is more like it. If these idiots keep doing what they’re doing. Enough is enough. I had enough with this bogus President of cebu. Its time to ditch her out. Are you with me? I’m sure hope so! Viva edsa tress!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Equally important for a regime change is the credibility of the person who will takeover the palace. The opposition is perceived to be equally corrupt and its rooster of presidentiables are balimbings and trapos to the core. The scenario of Sen. Lacson or Mayor Jojo Binay becoming President is enough to discouraged the middle class in joining another people power.
December 4th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Clipmaster….tama ka dun..kelangan ng isang mapagkatiwalaang witness para maging pulido ang pag akusa sa presidente…
Ang tanong…Kung ako yung mapagktiwalaang witness na yun…LALAYAS NA LANG AKO SA PILIPINAS…KESA PABAGSAKIN KO ANG ADMINISTRATION…AT BUMAGSAK ANG ECONOMIYA…AT BIGYAN NG PAGKAKATAON ANG MGA TAO SA OPPOSITION PARA MAMUNO SA BANSA NATIN…WALA DIN MANGYAYARI..BAKA LUMALA PA…
At least, sa administration na to..kahit pakonti konti..meron akong nakikitang pagbabago para sa kabutihan ng bansa natin…hindi ako maka GMA…pero para sa akin…Lalo tayong walang mararating kung ang taong mamumuno sa bansa natin ay isang politiko NA HUMAHALIK SAP WET NI ERAP, AT NI JINGGOY…
SUSMARYOSEP!!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
dalawa ang kulang sa opposition:
OJECTIVITY at CREDIBILITY
OBJECTIVITY: Ano ang dahilan kung bakit nila pinapabagsak ang presidente?
1. Para sa sarili nilang interes
2. Dahil galit sila sa presidente
3. Dahil gusto nila na sila naman ang uupo sa trono..at ng sa gayon sila naman ang may kapangyarihan.
4. Definitely hindi dahil naghihirap ang pilipino
5. at definitely hindi dahil gusto nilang makatulong sa pilipinas at sa pilipino.
6. Gumagawa ng gulo ang opposition para bumagsak ang econmy…tapos isisi agad nila sa administration (lame)
Walang nakikitang OBJECTIVITY ang majority ng mamayang pilipino para supportahan sila
CREDIBILITY
Walang credibilidad ang taga opposition…bakit?
1. Nandaya daw angp residente, SINO BA ANG HINDI NANDADAYA SA ELECTION SA PILIPINAS? PATI SILA MANDARAYA
2. Magnanakaw daw ang presidente…SINO BA ANG D MAGNANAKAW NA POLITIKO NG PILIPINAS? PAREHO LANG SILANG MAGNANAKAW..MAS MALALA PA SILA
3. Kurakot daw ang administration ni GMA…EH SINO BANG ADMINISTRATION ANG HINDI KURAKOT? SUMAHIN NATIN MULA NUNG PANAHON NI AGUINALDO..SINO ANG ADMINISTRATION NA HINDI KURAKOT? PALAGAY KO YUNG KAY MAGSAYSAY LANG KASI NAMATAY SYA AGAD
4. Marami daw pinatay na militante sa administration ni GMA…EH SYMPRE KAHIT NA NPA ANG PUMATAY DUN SA MGA KADRE NILA…SASABIHIN PA DIN NG OPPOSITION NA MILITAR ANG PUMATAY para lang siraan ang administration
AT PINAKAIMPORTANTE SA LAHAT…ANG MGA NAGRARALY…AT GUSTO PABAGSAKIN ANG ADMINISTRATION….PURO MGA NASA MANILA LANG…PURO MGA GANID NA ….WALA NG IBANG GAWIN KUNDI ANG MANGGULO!!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 11:21 am
evidence lang talaga ang kulang………..
yung bang tulad ng kay clarrisa ocampo…..
so far puro accusations lang………
kung sasabihin ni neri na involved si gma sa zte, palagay ko tapos na si gma………
so far ang nagsasalita puro wala ding credibilidad, may mga sariling interest din……….
antay antay lang tayo, baka may isang mapagkakatiwalaan tao may credibidad ang magbulgar ng katiwalian…………