RP eng'g schools step up creation of MS, PhD pool

Why pursue this higher education? 5yrs in engineering is enough of that hell!
Low pay in tech schools push professors to be corrupt, thereby milking students, there you experience this hell. Wanna be back there?

This project sounds nice. The problem is, an advanced degree in engineering is no guarantee of higher pay, or even a job. Furthermore, I believe that experience is an engineer's better teacher than any professor in the classroom. Heck, I worked for company that had a foreign consultant with a PhD who threw away millions of dollars in a wrong recommendation. I feel that the better strategy is to teach our undergraduate engineers to innovate and to try to commercialize their innovations. Maybe then they'll have the curiosity to pursue higher degrees in engineering, and the moolah to see them through.

The problem with the engineering graduate schools in the our country is the lack of really competent professors who can help out and provide adequate guidance especially when the students are doing their thesis or dissertation already. There are plenty of students who finish their academics but cannot complete the thesis/dissertation due to the aformentioned problem. Most of the time, the advisers only act as editors of the paper work and provide very limited guidance.

I had one colleague who went to the Netherlands for his MS. It only took him 1 year to obtain it, including his thesis. He credited his adviser for leading him to complete his thesis.

it took awhile but you are on the right track. keep moving forward pinas!

In the past there were initiatives like the ESEP which is good in intent but turned out to be like a mouse trap after it started! Why? The money came from World Bank loans to many "known" engineering schools who figured out in a real deep trouble trying to pay for just the interest from what was the value of the dollar then and five years after they got the loan! Administrators lost their focus instead of the engineering upgrade they were now busy trying to look for money to pay a huge debt! Well in the not so far past there were a time many instructors and faculty members from USC in Cebu, Don Bosco Technical College et al were sent for supposedly to obtain their advanced degrees by studying at UP DE unfortunately most if not all who did went did not graduate from that school never have made it for some reason (too hard courses or content or delivery?) but amazingly some of them braveheart got their MS and some even PhD degrees at Delft U in the Netherlands and some others in Japanese universities under Mombusho. Why is that? Maybe it is not the money but the quality of graduate faculty or how they mentor or advise at a graduate level? How many of them actually actively publish in peer reviewed journals for example? What is the temperature of the research culture in these schools? What is the quality of the research problem given? In short how does the graduate faculty delivers their stuff at par from where they obtained their MS or PhD? It is ironic that in actuality at UP there are more MS and Ph.D turnouts (and well published too) in the hardcore sciences like Physics, Marine Sciences than Engineering! Why?
A renowned local well published scientist Dr.Caesar Saloma in one his graduate classes once commented and he said "To have a graduate degree is to have a research degree!" For your educated enjoyment consider visiting: www.phdcomics.com

Mr Guevara is absolutely right. What we need are highly academically trained and skilled MS and PhD so they can teach Post Graduate Studies at our local engineering universities all over the country. I tell you I graduated with a BSEE degree 25 years ago. And I was a good student, I had the ambition to do post grad, but unfortunately our university does not offer a post grad program. And I did not have the opportunity to go abroad to study MS. I hope one day MS or PhD in ENG'G will be as common in our country just like MA or PhD in EDUCATION. I know there are a lot of talented FILIPINOS ENG'G Graduate out there who will be happy to pursue a POST GRADUATE studies in ENG'G. Also this is good, if we can send thousands of NURSES ABROAD, we can send thousands of FILIPINO ENGR'S with MS or PhD abroad as well.

MAy I know where I could inquire on the requirements for this initiative.

Thanks.

I agree with this program and should be implemented asap and not just talk. The government should not only support boxing as having to produce more R&D engineers is a long term achievement.

I am a BS Mechl Engg graduate and didnt had a chanec to do MS. Am hoping that someday I can do it then even go through a PhD.

I had more than 20 years experience engineering work and 10 of that is in R&D. I did worked hard to achieved something that a mere BS graduate could in a MS or PhD dominated R&D world. I reached the position of R&D Manager of a US company and mind you I was the torn among the roses being a BS. My subordinates were either MS or PhD graduates.

It was difficult but I succeed through hard work and continuous reading and training. I felt that being a BS, sometimes I BullShit my way then fix it later through reviewing my basics. Our curriculum is spread thin. Its kind of becoming jack of all trades.

In my department, I used to receive students applicants to do their final year projects and sometimes MS projects in my department. The school support for the students are unwaivering.

I hope our educational institutions would learn how our neighbors or US or Europe does it. We could achieve more as a nation if we could create a culture of great minds such as the R&D engineers have.

I believe in the power of science and technology and its ability to propel our economy. I'm currently a student taking management but I'm interested in taking engineering after

Hope this would be the start for some actual application of technologies which would be geared more to fit Philippine society, environment and resources.

For the most part, many PhDs, scientists and engineers have been trying to IMITATE western technologies. While to a certain extent this is a good thing, they must remember that they are in the Philippines filled with Filipinos with real needs.

Practical, cheap, and easily reachable technologies geared for the Filipino environment and society should be the target. If possible, government should give a reward system for inventors who create such gadgets and equipment, the government should automatically provide grants with royalties for creator.

After this, mass produce the product or offer to license build these to local manufacturers with a contract that the product must be produced at a very affordable price.

The brainpower and creativity of the Filipino is enormous. Governance must focus on harnessing this national resource for the betterment of Filipinos. Let us not wait till these intelligent people look for greener pastures abroad, give them OPPORTUNITIES NOW and fair or lucrative business propositions.

Let us do away with government influence peddlers and bureaucrats who would not lift a finger to help our scientists if they do not have a "share" or "lagay". Let us also clean up the grant awarding system which is being exploited by those who steal ideas in collusion with government officials for their corrupt purpose.

Make the system more automated, transparent, and with good checks and balances so as science would eventually serve the Filipino people and good honest scientists; not the corrupt, shrewd and dishonest.

And Gloria, stop covering the anomalies of some of your corrupt allies. Tama na ang pagiging kunsintidor.

I do believe in the abilities and knowledge of every Filipino! Only we are force to leave the country because of higher cost of living but low income. Everyone dreams of a better life for his family and it is very hard to achieve when there are so few opportunities to grow in our country. Politics make it hard for our economy to fully developed. Also the quality of education in many schools and universities were deteriorating.

This is a great move by the pioneering schools in combating the decreasing number of experts who could help build the pool of economic shapers in our country. I myself is an ECE and would like to pursue a Masters someday but is quite limited in time due to increasing demand of precious time by our employer. I can also attest to the numerous exodus of talented engineers because of lucrative offers especially from the Telco and IT industries. Poaching of talents and skilled workers is also very rampant which could eventually drain our technical talents. Finally, I want to know how could I apply to this program.

Its great that UP is spearheading this kind of program. Our country needs this instead of focusing on politics!

well and worthy endeavor indeed!

I just wonder what are the mechanism in the program which would prevent these MS and Phds to practice in the Phils.

For all good intent and purposes , these "products" surely will be tempted to use their learning abroad.

what are the requirements of the scholarship?
Am interested.

thnx..

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Governments and the universities have to deal with the grievances of the students without any delay, the students are the backbone of the society, our future and without equipping them how can we expect to have a bright future? If the universities don't have capable teachers and professors how are they going to digest what is in their syllabus? There is a big difference between visiting fellows and permanently posted professors.

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