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(UPDATED) What to do in a falling market

06/30/08

Posted under Investing, stock market

It’s pure pain to watch someone suffer from losing all his investments due to a falling market. What to do?

It’s too easy to say, just hold on because markets recover all the time. Curious Capitalist over at Time.com points that the best response is no response, but active investors know that once you lose all the bets, you waste so much of the capital that you can’t get in when real opportunities come up.

Last week, I spoke with several investment guys who espouse peso-cost averaging. The moneysmarts definition of that is “pikit-mata” investing, where you keep setting aside the same amount of money regularly — monthly or quarterly — whether the market is up or down.

The idea is you buy more when the market is down. While you buy fewer shares with the same amount of money as the market rises, those who promote this investing style says it all bunches out in the end to your favor. Meaning the average cost is lower than if you buy everything all in one go.

This is conventional wisdom that you’ll find in most investing books. But there are critics that say it’s not what it’s trumped up to be. If you got a big whopper of cash, for example, and the market is starting to come up from a downturn, why do you have to chop it all up to buy P5,000 worth of stocks each month? They also say its just a sales strategy to ferret out money from people that would rather not buy because the market is down.

Mathematically, peso-cost averaging doesn’t make sense when the market is going up. If you buy a big load of shares just before it goes up, naturally, you’ll make more money. Juanis Barredo, vice-president of CitisecOnline.com, pointed out that what you’ll have in this scenario is a big jackpot.

The problem is that striking gold is not as easy as it sounds. Barredo says for passive investors, peso-cost averaging works. MoneySmarts says if it gets you to invest money you would end up spending on restaurant dinners and shoes and whatnots, then why not?

Of course, this assumes you fully understand the nature of investing in stocks — earnings are never guaranteed and the higher returns are matched by equally high risks of loss.

Feast your eyes on this illustration on what happens with peso-cost averaging. Then watch out for my full-blown article next Monday in the Philippine Daily Inquirer.

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14 Responses to “(UPDATED) What to do in a falling market”

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    Caorlina - Business Says:

    There is no right time to invest in a stock market but there are right stocks to invest with.

  2. 13
    Malaya Says:

    Hello All,

    Just some thoughts on the previous comments

    1. You can buy quite a number of good stocks for less than 5,000 pesos. Here are some “branded” companies that neophytes can consider as well as an estimation of the minimum amount required to invest:
    Manila Water : Php 1,800
    Jollibee : Php 3,400
    SM Investments : Php 2,390
    Ayala Corp : Php 2,700
    Banco de Oro : Php 4,000

    2. Regardless of what you may think, ANYONE can do well in the market. In the two decades I have been in the market, I have seen regular people consistently achieve double digit returns REGARDLESS of general market condition. What is needed is the willingness to put in the necessary time and energy to personally learn the nuances of the market and not merely rely on second-hand stories and on books that are not really suited for the local market.

    3. Yes, the market is bad nowadays but for a lot of market veterans, it is actually a pretty good time. The mood these days is very reminiscent of the early 2000’s and mid to late 90’s when everyone was crying about the stock market. However, if you look at who the people who are quietly accumulating stocks these days are, you will find that these are the ones who truly make a killing when the market picks up. Think about it, so many blue-chip companies have fallen so far that they cannot but pick up in the next two to three years. Specifically, Ayala Corp., BDO, SM — companies with excellent track records and good management — don’t you think it highly improbable that the people behind those companies will be unable to adapt to the changing economy?

    4. Never overestimate the skills of a professional fund manager nor underestimate your own. For one thing, fund managers may be limited in the types of stocks they can invest in. For example, some funds don’t go into mining stocks. Unfortunately for them, in an environment like this, mining stocks have outperformed a lot of other industries — consequently, a lot of small investors who went into profitable firms such as PX are outperforming them significantly.

    That’s about it for now.
    Safe investing everyone.

  3. 12
    don2x Says:

    i don’t know how the short selling is being implemented at pse but it may be worth the risk if the market continues to fall.

  4. 11
    ACN Says:

    @ salve.. any stock whose price will not exceed 999 petot… eg chib, smic, smph, edc, ac, acpr, fphp, rcb.. atbp

  5. 10
    alijeffty gonzales Says:

    Hi Salve,

    When we invests in the stock market whether by making a single investment or by a programmed approach like cost averaging, we faced two inherent risk, systematic risk (overall market risk like inflation, GDP, political developments etc) and unsystematic risk (company specific risk like MEG , BW or perhaps even ENRON etc..) , based on portfolio management theories, we can minimize the volatility brought about by systematic risk by diversification (not putting everything in one basket), the ideal number of stocks in a stock portfolio varies from 18 to as much as 100 (depending on market depth/breath), we can obviously not be able to diversify a “single” stock and thus seems like “betting” the outcome of our financial goals on the prospect of a single company.

    It is sad to note that in the previous years prior to this bear market we are now experiencing, investors seems easy to persuade to ignore these fundamental risks in the prospect of a better return relative to the low interest rate environment.

    For ordinary investors (not trained in the intricate art of stock picking) like you and me, i think it would be more prudent and that we would have a more predictable future outcome if we do cost averaging by investing in a diversified portfolio such as a mutual fund.

    thanks

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