Impeachment or our hungry fellow citizens?

Impeachment or our hungry fellow citizens?
06/03/07
Posted under Feedback
I WAS reading the letters to the editor, when the article “Forget impeachment bid� by Ms Emma Requilme (Inquirer, 06/01/07) caught my attention.

At last! Someone has decided to forget impeachment. I’m so tired of hearing people talking about the impeachment of the president. They only look at the negative sides of the administration. But I think, they didn’t take the time to glance at the positive side.

I agree with the point of Ms. Requilme that we should forget about impeachment and pay attention to our hungry fellow citizens. Having an impeachment trial would be such a waste of time. There are people waiting to be fed. So, the question would be: Which is important? The impeachment or our hungry fellow citizens?

I always hear activists cry out loud “Oust Gloria!� But if you asked them the question above, surely they will choose the good of our fellow citizens. Then, if that’s what they want, the good of our people, we must wait for our president’s move. So let us forget impeachment and think of the future of our people and our country.

– Jay-R Lumbo, Marikina City (via e-mail)
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Fr: Salina

Forget impeachment? You must be really out of your mind. Not atleast you don't know it. Ever since Gloria Arroyo, Squatting in Malacanyang Palace there is more in more filipino people are starving.
Her so call booming economy is fake just like her. Where on earth did she get her figure? In kangkonga.

How can she claim this so call booming economy when the taxes collection are fall short. The reason of her so call booming economy because of the money remmittance of OFW sending back home. And this is temporary situation.

What positive side are you talking about, Her so call booming economy? Now, You're really gone LOCO! This so call booming economy Gloria Arroyo, Talking about is make believe by Gloria Arroyo, She'll say anything in order to make her look good. Lets face it. Gloria Arroyo, Is the biggest LEMON either you admitted or not. I'LL SAY, DITCH HER TIME. SHE DON'T DESERVE TO SIT IN MALACANYANG PALACE A MINUTE LONGER.

tagalugin natin para mas maintindihan ng lahat,

bakit nagugutom ang karamihan sa mga pilipino? kawalan ng trabaho, mataas na presyo ng bilihin at walang kupas na paglipad ng presyo ng gasolina.

sa ilang taon nanungkulan ang mahal nating pangulo, naramdaman mo ba na talagang gumanda ang ekonomiya o nabulag tayo sa mga magagandang salitang sinasambit sa harap ng kamera?

kaibigan, alam ng lahat na kailangan pakainin ang mga nagugutom, subalit hindi ba lalong darami ang mga nagugutom kung hindi natin kikitilin ang dahilan ng kahirapan. sa ilang taong panunungkulan ng mahal nating pangulo, hindi ba dapat naisaayos na ang ganitong mga problema? kaya kaibigan, kailangan natin ng bagong pag-asa, kailangan matigil na ang paglala ng mga problema, kailangan mawala na ang lider na nagdala sa akin sa ganitong eksena....

Forget Impeachment? Forget exposing rampant corruptions in the Arroyo Administration?

You must be spitting against the wind, even with your knowledge that your sputum is grossly saturated with foul-smelling phlegm. And it gets stuck on your face, and you would still deny the filthiness of it and ask yourself, "Why won't I just enjoy the taste and its substance, at least, I am still breathing even from the smear of it?"

One must be suffering from disillusionment and disenchantment to say, "Forget impeachment, or forget about exposing the evils of the Arroyo Administration."

Let us scrutinize the Pandora's box this time. But, come to think of it that the last item that popped out of the box was the message of hope, which, in our political case, will surface only after all the misfortunes and ill-makings of La Gloria are exposed. That's the bright side of it.

One must ponder with prayer over the issues that we must delve into action so that we will not be dreaming of what will never come to pass.

To forget about impeachment of La Gloria, or to stop exposing the evils of her administration, will only drag the poor to the pit of further depravity.

One must be a numskulled to take the side of La Gloria, or at least, inclined to emulate the behaviour of what he subscribes.

Let us keep our torch burning!

The impeachment process against discredited and corrupt Philippine leader Gloria Arroyo is possible even if the opposition congressmen have no numbers. The newly elected and principled representatives under Lakas, Kampi, Liberal Party, NPC and pro GMA party-list should look first the *MERITS* of the possible impeachment complaint against bogus President Gloria Arroyo before outright junking it. They should represent the true interest of the Filipino people and the State, NOT the dictates and influence of old guard politicos and Malacanang. They owed their mandate to the people. Political party affiliation means nothing in Philippine politics.

The May 14, 2007 elections’ result is the referendum against Arroyo’s illegitimate presidency. GMA’s Team Unity senatorial bets got clobbered despite of dreadful
political machinery and limitless funding. The message is crystal clear; the people repudiated her voodoo economic policy and inept corrupt government. Gloria Arroyo is the problem. The Philippine economy will grow and OFW remittances keep pouring without lame duct and great pretender Reyna Gloria. I believe that more foreign investors will be coming and massive industrialization will follow after her ouster. They have no trust and confidence under her twice stolen presidency. The longer she clings in power there will be no political stability and speedy economic recovery. In fact, massive industrialization will sustain the rapid increase of unemployment due to over population.

Yes, i do believe that politician should focus on the economy of the country not thier personal interest or impeachment of the president. Politician must served the people wellfare especially the poor.

I totally agree with you. GMA is the best person to lead our country at this time. The opposition want to remove her, but they don't have anyone good enough to replace her. GO will just bring our economy down.

Impeachment or our hungry fellow citizens? It depends if Gloria continuous on her attempts to destroy Philippine democracy, twisting our laws and continuous on protecting her corrupt allies. If she does, then we know the answer to that question. Her past actions would not be lost on the Filipinos.

And by the way, impeachment and prosecuting the corrupt is not mutually exclusive from progress and a good future for our country.

It does not follow that impeachment means hunger for our fellow citizens. Does it mean that if one sees something wrong that we look the other way because we want to concentrate on our feeding our "hungry fellow citizens"?

The proper thing to do would be to right the wrong AND feed our hungry fellow citizens. This can be done parallel to each other and are not mutually exclusive in attaining a goal of a progressive Filipino society.

what we need is good government, fair to all, not too much politics. If we need to fed the people, do it; impeachment necessary? If so, do it as well, streamline pork barrels to be more responsive to the needs of the people or completely abolish it, I mean the pork barrel.

??? so next time pag may nang-holdup at nakapatay ng biktima, pag sinabi ng holdaper na para sa mga anak nya yung ninakaw nya, kalimutan na natin ang pagpapakulong sa kanya? na-holdap ang pilipinas, ninakaw ang karapatan sa pagboto, ang pinaka-"essence" ng demokrasya, pinatay ang mga mahalagang "values" ng "honesty" at "justice", tapos pakakawalan dahil sa ibang bagay na wala namang kinalaman sa krimen? d kasi tama o "fair" yung papipiliin mo yung mga tao kung impeachment vs. "feed the hungry people". para na ring sinabi mo: pakukulong mo ba yung mamamatay tao o hayaan mo siyang makalaya para patuloy niyang mapakain yung pamilya nya (habang patuloy siyang pumapatay ng mga inosenteng tao). Sabi nga ng mga abugado: "that is an irrelevant question, your honor!" "we should have that irrelevant question stricken off the record!"

Every individuals has its own basic need(food, clothing, shelter). And if you cant give this basic need your enviroment is a mess, so food for the hungry citizen is the first priority.

Impeachment is not a priority. This is a basic technique of giving greedy politician to sit in a position without consulting the silent majority.

The problem with Filipinos is APATHY, we only care for ourselves, we dont take risks, this country is stagnant because its people are too lazy to move and make action. Wait and see mentality.

I'm hungry! Impeach her!!! (How's that for logic?)

You know, Jay-R, you are inviting diatribes from Salina and you are inciting her/him furthermore to froth for acidulous remarks. Hala ka!!!

Again the myth that no one can replace Arroyo ... grow up, Gloria is not indispensable.

If anyone in the Philippines especially in elected position does wrong, he or she at the very least must not be on the position for it is a position of trust. The wrongdoer must also serve whatever criminal actions that may have been incurred.

Which reminds me, this also SPECIALLY applies to COMELEC vote manipulators.

Rooting out the corruption is as important priority along with addressing hunger.

Kaya nga maraming nagugutom dahil nga maraming kurakot eh!

This includes addressing corruption in ALL levels of government. From the barangay councilman to the position of President itself!

Impeach her? Then what? Are we going to eat well if she's impeached? Impeachment is such a divisive issue that going through this (again!) will tear this country apart, scare investors, and leave more people hungry. We are already doing well, macroeconomically speaking, and although statistics can't be eaten as GO says, good macroeconomic statistics is better than a bad one in terms of ultimately solving hunger. And by the way, these statistics are gathered by professionals and I believe them more than any other entity or person(s) in this country. Kung hindi natin paniwalaan and ating mga institusyon, mabuti pang i-dissolve na lang natin ang Pilipinas at mag-kanya-kanya na lang tayo ng republika sa ating mga probinsya.

As for GMA, she is the hardest-working president I've ever observed; she certainly works harder than Erap. She's won many elections on her way to the top so no one cay say that she lacked skills to get votes. Officially, she won the 2004 elections; this is also what respectable polls reported. Those complaining that she cheated are welcome to file charges, no one is preventing them from doing so. Right now, there's not a single charge filed in court against GMA, Garci and others would have been piloried in the media for alleged cheating. Yung mga malalakas ang boses sa media tulad ng mga senatoriables ng GO, wala namang isinampang mga kaso sa korte. In fact, sa itinagal ng ibang GO senatoriables sa kongreso, wala ni isa man sa kanila ang nag-propose ng anti-corruption law pero ngayong eleksyon akala mo kung sinong mag santo kung maka-criticize ng administrasyon tungkol sa corruption.

To those who would like to oust GMA, you are welcome to do so as long as you stick to legal means. You may succeed where our most seasoned opposition politicians have so far failed. But meantime, pwede bang mag-trabaho muna tayo? Kaya siguro nagugutom ang iba, hindi naman lahat, ay dahil ayaw magbanat ng buto o kaya'y namimili ng trabaho.

GO to bring the country down???? Those administration factotums should realize that the people has spoken! Its 8-2-2! The GO-destroy-economy- propaganda was rejected by the people.

To impeach her or not, that depends upon the situation. If GO has the numbers, then why not?

Impeachment is possible to any sitting President if the evidence is overwhelming even if the house is controlled by the Administration. Some of these Administration Congressmen will go with impeachment if they know that the evidence is valid and will progress.

Look what happened to ERAP. The House was controlled by ERAP but, the impeachement went through. The evidence, at that time, was valid and definitely pushed through. Thus, ERAP was impeached at the Lower House.

Today, there is no solid evidence that will warrant an impeachment for GMA. The oppositions (c/o ERAP) are just noisy and definitely they want an impeachment so ERAP can go back to Power.

In due time, the SandiganBayan will make a decision on the Plunder Case of ERAP. With the overwhelming evidences, ERAP will be convicted.

So without solid evidence for Impeachment, people should just ignore these noisy oppositions and just concentrate on how we can help improve further our Economy and solve the Hunger of many Lazy Filipinos.

Hunger is a reality for Lazy Filipinos. There is no such Hunger when each one of us will work hard and live in an honest, clean, and simple living.

Panahon ni Marcos, Tita Cory, Ramos, Erap na pahirap, Gloria ay puro bunganga lang tayo. Panahon na tayo ay mag-kaisa, magtrabaho para sa pag-usad ng bansa... Tatanda na tayo na wala man lang maitulong sa minamamahal nating bansang Pilipinas. Ngayon nating mapatunayan at masubukan ang mga GO senators sana huwag puro bunganga lang ang pairalin tulungan ang mga nag-hihikahos na mga kapatid natin...

Gloria won the elections in 2004. All the surveys before the elections and even the exit polls pointed to a win for Gloria. She's the legitimate president. She's turning into a good president. The economy has recovered and we're on our way to up. To hell with the leftists leaders and obstructionist senators. Let Gloria finish her term. I believe in her now.

Monday Lessons
I’m hungry! Impeach her!!! (How’s that for logic?)

You know, Jay-R, you are inviting diatribes from Salina and you are inciting her/him furthermore to froth for acidulous remarks. Hala ka!!!
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Fr: Salina

Hala ka, Salina: Iyon si Pikpik now is blaming you. He, He, He.....He's right. They should kick her ass out a long time ago! Just like what she did to President Joseph Estrada. Gloria Arroyo, Nothing but a power grabber.

And ever since she grab power from the duly elected President Joseph Estrada,... There is more "N" Filipino people are starving. The elites where saying that Gloria Arroyo, The only person can run the country better because she had a doctorate degree in economic. Ha, Ha! She can't even count. The filipino people are worse now, compare to when Erap, Time. I'd admitt there is lots of poor people during Erap time. But, Its worse now. And we all knew it. I'll say, DITCH HER OUT.

joe puno
what we need is good government, fair to all, not too much politics. If we need to fed the people, do it; impeachment necessary? If so, do it as well, streamline pork barrels to be more responsive to the needs of the people or completely abolish it, I mean the pork barrel.
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Fr: Salina

I'll say, Abolish the pork barrel. They should use that money for the social services like education, Health care, and to create jobs so that the filipino people not need to go abroad to work.

Kabayan
Impeachment or our hungry fellow citizens? It depends if Gloria continuous on her attempts to destroy Philippine democracy, twisting our laws and continuous on protecting her corrupt allies. If she does, then we know the answer to that question. Her past actions would not be lost on the Filipinos.

And by the way, impeachment and prosecuting the corrupt is not mutually exclusive from progress and a good future for our country.

It does not follow that impeachment means hunger for our fellow citizens. Does it mean that if one sees something wrong that we look the other way because we want to concentrate on our feeding our “hungry fellow citizens�?

The proper thing to do would be to right the wrong AND feed our hungry fellow citizens. This can be done parallel to each other and are not mutually exclusive in attaining a goal of a progressive Filipino society.
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Fr: Salina

If these politician just do their job they suppose too. This problem the philippines facing should never happen. Its happen because these idiots don't know what the hell they're doing. The wrong, They're making it right. And right they're making it wrong.

Is not only that the reason there is more "N" more filipino people are hungry because of corruption in all level of government office's....

And even there is solid evidence against these corrupt official the one setting in malacanyang palace is not doing anything about it. For a simple reason she's one of them. I'll say, DITCH HER OUT.

Monday Lessons
I’m hungry! Impeach her!!! (How’s that for logic?)
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Fr: Salina

You don't have to be hungry to impeach her. She should be kick out a long time ago. For what she did. If is not only that her goons are protecting her, We already succeed on kicken her ass out.

And the reason there is more filipino people are hungry because she's been using the money to buy off her protection to make sure that nobody can impeach her from her stolen power. I'll say, DITCH HER OUT. SHE DON'T DESERVE OT SIT IN MALACANYANG PALACE A MINUTE LONGER. SHE'S A THIEF.

Kula Ngot
I totally agree with you. GMA is the best person to lead our country at this time. The opposition want to remove her, but they don’t have anyone good enough to replace her. GO will just bring our economy down.
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Fr: Salina

Economy is already down. This is one of the reason why there is more filipino people are hungry! If you believe that under the bugos regime of Gloria Arroyo, The economy is rosy, You better think again. The so call 6.9% she's bragging about is a temporary situation.

Because of the money remmittance that the OFW are sending back home. The economy went up. Or is it that she only pad her so call booming economy just like she pad her votes in May 10, 2004. Presidential election to ensure her winning.

The taxes collection is fall short. So, I'll say, She's lying to her teeth. She say anything to make her look good.

If you don't believe what I've saying here, Then Prove me wrong! tell all the OFW NONE OFW WHO'S BEEN SENDING MONEY TO THE PHILIPPINES, TO STOP SENDING MONEY TO THEIR LOVE ONE.
I'LL GUARANTEE YOU, WHEN THAT HAPPEN THE PHILIPPINES ECONOMY WELL COLLAPSE IN NO TIME. GLORIA ARROYYO, NOTHING BUT THE BIGGEST LIAR. ASIDE FROM BEING THE BIGGEST THIEF.

Crispulo Catay
Yes, i do believe that politician should focus on the economy of the country not thier personal interest or impeachment of the president. Politician must served the people wellfare especially the poor.
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Fr: Salina

If you don't believe that she should be impeach, why is it, Its okay with to impeach the duly elected President Joseph Estrada. Gloria Arroyo, Should be in jail for what she did.

Is not only that she stole her title from the duly elected President Joseph Estrada. But she stole it again in May 10, 2004. Presidential election from FERNANDO POE, JR. Gloria Arroyo, Nothing but the biggest thief. I'LL SAY, DITCH HER OUT.

phoulo
tagalugin natin para mas maintindihan ng lahat,

bakit nagugutom ang karamihan sa mga pilipino? kawalan ng trabaho, mataas na presyo ng bilihin at walang kupas na paglipad ng presyo ng gasolina.

sa ilang taon nanungkulan ang mahal nating pangulo, naramdaman mo ba na talagang gumanda ang ekonomiya o nabulag tayo sa mga magagandang salitang sinasambit sa harap ng kamera?
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Fr: Salina

Yeah, She's been squatting in malacanyang palace for over almost seven years. all we hear is her booming economy. But truth of the matter is, There is more filipino people are starving ever since she stole her title from the duly elected president Joseph Estrada.

If it is true that the economy is booming, Why is it that there is more "N" more filipino people are starving. sabihin mo, ang totoo she's lying to her teeth.

Chatter
Forget Impeachment? Forget exposing rampant corruptions in the Arroyo Administration?

You must be spitting against the wind, even with your knowledge that your sputum is grossly saturated with foul-smelling phlegm. And it gets stuck on your face, and you would still deny the filthiness of it and ask yourself, “Why won’t I just enjoy the taste and its substance, at least, I am still breathing even from the smear of it?�

One must be suffering from disillusionment and disenchantment to say, “Forget impeachment, or forget about exposing the evils of the Arroyo Administration.�

Let us scrutinize the Pandora’s box this time. But, come to think of it that the last item that popped out of the box was the message of hope, which, in our political case, will surface only after all the misfortunes and ill-makings of La Gloria are exposed. That’s the bright side of it.

One must ponder with prayer over the issues that we must delve into action so that we will not be dreaming of what will never come to pass.

To forget about impeachment of La Gloria, or to stop exposing the evils of her administration, will only drag the poor to the pit of further depravity.

One must be a numskulled to take the side of La Gloria, or at least, inclined to emulate the behaviour of what he subscribes.

Let us keep our torch burning!
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Fr: Salina

Yes, Lets keep our torch burning! for a better Philippines. And kick this bugos President of cebu. This is the only way for the Philippines to move forward to get these corrupt government employee's accountable for their action. Throw their ass in jail where they belong. Enough is enough.

impeachment will once again plung our country to uncertainty. we have a strong economic foundation now, so why risk losing it once again? impeachment will only serve the interest of those people who salivates for power. the losers would be the majority of the people who would be greatly affected by the vested interests of the few. some people are being utilized as pawns by these hungry politicians who rides on the sentiment of some people. they'll promise reforms, etc. but sad to say, once in power they would be corrupt, if not more corrupt, than the present dispensation. accept it, politicians, per se, are corrupt. why are they so hell bent in winning? because there is power, influence and money in it. honest? they stink!

true! impeachment is a waste of time. let GMA finished her term. at least she is doing great putting a strong foundation of the country's economy. pustahan tayo, corruption will still go on kahit sinong maging next president. it's just all empty promises of self-serving politicians.... that's why don't be carried so much by their empty words.

If GMA will be impeached again, the peso/dollar rate will deteriorate back to 55 pesos per dollar, the budget deficit will balloon to more than 200b, the stock market in RP will crash, tourism arrivals will shrink, investors will be pulling out, credit rating for RP will go down and all the negative effects of a poisoned political atmosphere. OFW remittances will continue to grow because it is a necessary but it can no longer control the depreciation of the peso due to uncertainty. We can always choose for the worst if we still cannot accept present realities.

Walang katapusang usaping sino dapat ang iupo sa malacañang o dapat patalsikin si GMA. Bakit, pag natanggal ba si GMA lutas ng problema natin? Pag manatili si GMA lutas din ba problema natin? Sinong makapagbigay ng katiyakan sa inyo????? Kung wala, pwes, sa 2010 election nalang ako magpalit ng pangulo. Ganon lang ka simple yan, wag nyo nang gawing komplekado!!!!! Pahirapan nyo pa sarili nyo at bayan natin sa usaping impeachment na yan!!! SAwang sawa na ang bayan sa impeachment na yan, wala na bang iba ?????

Impeaching GMA is not primarily about evidence. Its about numbers. Yan ang sinabi mismo ni Nograles, Villafuerte at iba pa.

So, as long as GO could muster the numbers on with impeachment.

Its the noblest cause of all. forget about economy. Propaganda lang yan ng administrasyun. Its just a mirage.

Tama yan Mr. Gabby. Magbulag-bulagan na lang tayo at HUWAG ng umaasa. That's the spirit! Go Filipino!!! Go Philippines!!!

i don’t see any relation between feeding the hungry & the impeachment. our laws doesn’t see the co-relation bet the two. violation of the law and or constitution is a crime punishable by the law itself. there’s no parallel bet. our hungry stomach and the crime committed. it’s like you stole a drug in the pharmacy or food at the restaurant and seemingly said to police that your children are sick or hungry and you want to be released?

now the problem we will be facing for our future generation is that it’s ok for them to do things that are in violation of our laws of the land. and all our future generation will do the same. and this is not good sign to inculcate to our young children that stealing the highest position of the land, and doing corrupt practices by our leaders is just ok for our society.

therefore my conclusion is that whoever violated our laws and our constitution must be served with utmost law of the land. for now, the only possible actions to serve with this case of violation is only through impeachment. due to the immunity status, our law cannot put a sitting president in jail, only when the term expired that it can be served to jail.

therefore any crime must pay and that no one is above the law regardless if we are president of the republic or just an ordinary citizen.

in the case of GMA, it is impossible to impeach her for now bec. of the voting numbers at congress. but GMA should answer the case thrown at her. she should not escape from all her accusations. when her term expires at presidency she should face and answer all the accusations otherwise the people will put her to jail.

It must be admitted that the odds of getting Arroyo impeached is near to nil. One used a metaphor here of not punishing a hold-upper since the act may be for family but that it is not simply wise, to put Arroyo similar to a criminal, killing for stealing. She cheated the 2004 elections, yes, that is a fact, (she won it, that is also a fact) but she is just very lucky that the events went favorably for her. And she is doing her job properly. The latest news of GDP in the 1st quarter of 2007 running at 6.9%, the third next to China and Vietnam in the region, cannot just be simply ignored as one of her good jobs. Yes, it must be admitted that the effects of this GDP hasn’t been reached the grassroots yet, for this time, but later on it will be and I’m pretty sure that no common people would thank her for that. No, not even, the anti-GMA forces that invaded this blog. Nevertheless, with the way a sales lady working and the business getting profits contributed by her hard work, even if she cheated on her CV, only an idiot businessman will fire her immediately, knowing that her contract will last only for 6 months. What he would do then is to watch her carefully, just making sure she won’t pilfer on the daily sales by applying controlled measures. An auditor or a good Chief Operating Officer would know this. As what Joker Arroyo has said, “Impeachment for now would be costly for the economy and the people would not benefit from it.� And it is a common knowledge that even if Joker ran with the TU in this election, he couldn’t be stopped from criticizing GMA if she would commit error. If one would analyze the figures of the latest GDP, the main contributors are the consumer spending, of course, money mostly from the OFWs, the government spending for infrastructures, but, take note, less on fixed investments. Where are the investments? More on the portfolios, meaning investors are still cautious. Filipinos must assure these investors that the political climate is fine before they come on a long term basis. So disturb the climate, investors will pull out their portfolios, dollar will return to Php 56, OFWs will be happy, for a while, why? Inflation will rise and the value of peso will be right beneath one’s foot. As inflation rises, interest rates shoot up, no fixed investments, no jobs, hungry Filipinos. Sounds logical. These are not a matter of opinion, they are facts. They happened in the past, only with different political climate.

Sa tingin ko ngayon pa lang nagsisimula ang bayan mag-isip tungkol sa posibleng pagtatanggal ng mga kurakot at abusador sa kapangyarihan. Ito ang isang isyu na hindi pagsasawaan ng mga makabayang Pilipino.

The current Senatorial results have reflected this trend. Impeachment as a mode to solve corruption in the highest levels is one of the options in the table.

What? Impeachment again? The winning senators have not been proclaimed yet and here the GO allies are already thinking of impeachment? This convinces me that indeed the opposition has no platform of government except to file impeachment against GMA year in and year out. They're a bunch of power hungry politicians who cannot wait for 2010 and mind you, this GO will implode come 2010 and their supporters will be scattered as their brains are now.

By the way, if GO and it allies including the supposed to be overwhelming supporters of the opposition, why didn't they vote for more opposition congressmen so that GMA could have been easily impeached. Enough numbers in the lower house to bring impeachment case to the Senate and enough numbers in the Senate to convict GMA.

Impeachment is a simple political process that relies on numbers more than issues. Well, need I say more what will happen to the planned impeachment? It's dead by sheer stupidity. Only people's money is lost by another useless exercise in Congress.

The opposition allied congressmen even dwindled to trickle. Such stupidity indeed. Wanting to impeach GMA but cannot muster even the barest minimum numbers of congressmen to get elected to at least give a semblance of an impeachment that is breathing with life.

This Cayetano and Custodio should be given lesson in plain, common sense. But they don't teach this in school not even in the state university they call UP. Either one has it or he's born fool to being with.

As it is, impeachment is alive and thriving only in the loud mouths of the opposition, their inherently senseless supporters and in the media. A clever man is one who works to achieve his goals. Now you know who is clever: the opposition or GMA?

The argument that people are tired of impeachment does not hold. By voting 8-2-2 in favor of the Genuine Opposition, the sovereign Filipino people clearly send a message that they approve the impeachment of GMA thru delegation of the sovereign will to the Senate.

All those invocation of good economy has been rejected by the people. Despite that insistence, the people choose the opposition.

Kabayan
Sa tingin ko ngayon pa lang nagsisimula ang bayan mag-isip tungkol sa posibleng pagtatanggal ng mga kurakot at abusador sa kapangyarihan. Ito ang isang isyu na hindi pagsasawaan ng mga makabayang Pilipino.

The current Senatorial results have reflected this trend. Impeachment as a mode to solve corruption in the highest levels is one of the options in the table.
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Fr: Salina

The only way the Philippines can move forward is to get rid of these corrupt government employee's.

Especially Gloria Arroyo, Because there is solid evidence against her. For as long as she's the one in power the Philippines surely going down the drain.

drhenry4
It must be admitted that the odds of getting Arroyo impeached is near to nil. One used a metaphor here of not punishing a hold-upper since the act may be for family but that it is not simply wise, to put Arroyo similar to a criminal, killing for stealing. She cheated the 2004 elections, yes, that is a fact, (she won it, that is also a fact) but she is just very lucky that the events went favorably for her. And she is doing her job properly. The latest news of GDP in the 1st quarter of 2007 running at 6.9%, the third next to China and Vietnam in the region, cannot just be simply ignored as one of her good jobs. Yes, it must be admitted that the effects of this GDP hasn’t been reached the grassroots yet, for this time, but later on it will be and I’m pretty sure that no common people would thank her for that. No, not even, the anti-GMA forces that invaded this blog. Nevertheless, with the way a sales lady working and the business getting profits contributed by her hard work, even if she cheated on her CV, only an idiot businessman will fire her immediately, knowing that her contract will last only for 6 months. What he would do then is to watch her carefully, just making sure she won’t pilfer on the daily sales by applying controlled measures. An auditor or a good Chief Operating Officer would know this. As what Joker Arroyo has said, “Impeachment for now would be costly for the economy and the people would not benefit from it.� And it is a common knowledge that even if Joker ran with the TU in this election, he couldn’t be stopped from criticizing GMA if she would commit error. If one would analyze the figures of the latest GDP, the main contributors are the consumer spending, of course, money mostly from the OFWs, the government spending for infrastructures, but, take note, less on fixed investments. Where are the investments? More on the portfolios, meaning investors are still cautious. Filipinos must assure these investors that the political climate is fine before they come on a long term basis. So disturb the climate, investors will pull out their portfolios, dollar will return to Php 56, OFWs will be happy, for a while, why? Inflation will rise and the value of peso will be right beneath one’s foot. As inflation rises, interest rates shoot up, no fixed investments, no jobs, hungry Filipinos. Sounds logical. These are not a matter of opinion, they are facts. They happened in the past, only with different political climate.
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Fr: Salina

Ha, ha, ha,...I guess its your right to believe whatever you want to believe. That Gloria Arroyo, so call booming economy. If it is true that the Philippines economy is better why is it there is more filipino people can't hardly eat.

Truth of the matter is, Her so call booming economy is pad. Just like she pad her votes in May 10, 2004. Presidential election to ensure her winning.

6.9% is good. If you're an accountant, 6.9% is counted round figure as 7%
My question is, Where did she get that figure, When the taxes collection is fall short.? If she's really an economist Gloria Arroyo, Should know better. That this so call booming economy is a temporary situation. Because most of that booming economy from the money remmittance the OFW sending back home.

Lets face it. Gloria Arroyo, Is the biggest LEMON. I still say, DITCH HER OUT. I HAD ENOUGH WITH HER BULLSHIT. SHE'S BEEN SQUATTING IN MALACANYANG PALACE FOR SEVEN YEARS. SHE ALREADY SHOW THE FILIPINO PEOPLE WHAT SHE CAN DO. SHE'S THE BIGGEST FAILURE. PERIOD.

It's unfortunate that some readers think this is an either-or situation.

GMA has been accused of lots of things. She should not be denied due process. She should be given a chance to clear her name. Otherwise, in the eyes of the people, as this election showed. she is guilty. The Legislature has no reason for being if their concern is limited to "booking" laws. They need to give such laws teeth so that they are properly interpreted by the Judiciary and enforced by the Executive branch. It's about time our people relearn their lessons on democracy and the system of checks and balances.

That issue of course has nothing to do with the very important issue of hunger and poverty. Our lawmakers cannot claim they believe in democracy if this issue is not urgently and promptly addressed. By the same token, they need to ensure that the appropriations for various purposes including those intended to help the poor and the hungry are not spent on JocJoc horse manure and vote-buying and other purposes that deprive the legitimate beneficiaries.

The Senate and the Lower House have committees. The two issues, and more, can be simultaneously addressed. In fact, there are many committees that handle various issues, such that other equally important issues are not ignored.

One important issue should not take from the other, although we have to admit that several problems may have common solutions. But they will soon enough reveal themselves. It is for us to strongly suggest to our lawmakers various concerns that should be included in their agenda so they can be properly addressed.

by wining 8-2-2 in the senatorial election it absolutely mean that most Filipinos are feed-up with the leadership of GMA. And most are seeking an answer for the accusations done by the opposition. in the campaign period, the platform of the opposition is to continue the impeachment proceedings though the opposition cannot muster the majority votes. but the filipino people knew the battle cry of the opposition in the campaign. and that is to put the immoral issues of current leadership.

the problem with us filipinos is that we don’t have the will to identify the good & the bad governance. still up these days we lack the will to live in a honest & goodness character. to identify the immoral issues of cheating, the lying & the mis-used of govt’ funds to the people. as what i’ve said before, it is ok to let GMA finish her term “if� she still have the moral ascendancy to govern. but the problem these days is that even her being the presidency is in question bec. of her cheating in the last election, and more than that the abuse of the power and the mis-used of funds to the people. Maybe if this happened to other countries for sure the president had long been impeached or removed from the power either by force or by people power.

why is it that we are equating the immoral issues to the economic issues? our country had long been suffered with our economic turmoil. there are millions of people who are still starving, millions are still out-of-school, millions still have no jobs to find. if we can just, Filipinos, learn the basic norm of moral living then for sure we can live in a honest & God-fearing goodness of being a true Filipino. the progress of the republic depends on
good governance of the leader. look at our asian neighbors, the Japanese, the Koreans, the Chinese, the thais. these countries are attracted most by the western companies bec. of the good governance of the leader. these countries hate a corrupt & a cheat leader. the progress of a country depends on the good governance and not just on the power to govern by force and by forgiving the one who committed the immoral ascendency.

it is like you rape a woman and you said to the police and to the aggrieve lady and her family “I’m Sorry�? so, where is the justice there?

To Kuwentong Kanto,

The battle ground for impeachment is not in the Senate but in the lower house where the overwhelming members belong to the GMA faction.

Even if all 12 of the GO candidates win, nothing will happen with impeachment simply because Congress is controlled by the President's allies. What were the people doing who wanted GMA out? Why did they not vote for the opposition candidates for Congressmen?

Maybe, the people wanted the Senate as a counter balance to the President but made sure to vote for GMA supporters to make sure that GMA remains president. Otherwise, if the people really wanted GMA impeached, they could have voted any candidate associated with GO but they did not.

Here are the issues in relation to everyday life of a Filipino
1. HIGH COST OF ELECTRICITY – This has been haunting Filipinos since Ramos. Common knowledge it is because of the IPPs. Not simple as that. NAPOCOR is the biggest monster the government is feeding coming from 30% of Filipino’s income in the form of tax. The officials and ex-officials of NAPOCOR have been there since Erap, and they are really earning big from their salaries and kickbacks. These people are hiding at the back of Arroyo’s “Hello Garci� and election cheating since congressional hearings are not as dramatic as the voting for the impeachment complaint or FG’s German bank account. Was the EPIRA law given time to be revised and scrutinized? No any initiative either from the majority or from the righteous minority, not even from the two young righteous, talkative guys who are now nearly to be proclaimed as Senators in the next few days. IMPEACHMENT WAS THEIR PRIORITY, with all the actions and crying a telenovela has. Is this issue affecting the life of Juan de la Cruz? VERY MUCH.
2. RICE CARTEL – Unknown to many Filipinos, there exist a cartel in the sale of rice. Since Filipinos cannot produce rice enough for the country’s demand, there is no choice but to import rice, mostly from Thailand. Take note, the idea of hybrid rice and planting came from where? UP Los Baños (sounds familiar, I think that’s in Philippines). A group of businessmen (mostly are Filipino-Chinese) are the one importing them and selling them AT THEIR OWN PRICE. No competition, good business profits. Did anyone hear a single congressional hearing regarding this issue from any of the above winning Senators? Nyaahh. With all the nice media dramatic speeches, this issue did not even pop up. Only the IMPEACHMENT. Is this issue affecting the life of Juan de la Cruz? I think he’s already hungry.
3. And the most obvious one, the CARTEL IN PETROLEUM PRODUCTS. For almost 10 years, this Oil deregulation law has been a pain at the back of Juan de la Cruz. Every eye can see, only an idiot cannot comprehend, that there is an oil cartel existing. Was this issue dramatically debated on the floors of the Senate and the House? Anyone can remember?
4. TRAFFIC – Let’s go local. There exists a road from Alabang passing thru Ayala Southvale traversing Molino Road Bacoor Cavite until Aguinaldo Highway. This is named Daang Hari. In fact, in the original plan this road will link to a highway going to Tagaytay City. People from Dasmariñas and Bacoor (specifically Molino) working at Makati can now use the road from Molino to Alabang (thanks to Sen. Manny Villar), but people from the Aguinaldo highway has to pass to the converging duct of Talaba, Bacoor leading to Coastal Road since part of Daang Hari that will link with Aguinaldo highway is not finished yet. A Caviteño can testify in any hearing how big the traffic jam is in Talaba during rush hours. When was this project proposed? Ramos time. When did it start? Year 2002. Five years had passed. Where were Lacson and Remulla’s? Lacson even bragging he did not use his pork barrel when it would have helped Caviteños. Never mind the Remulla’s. Nothing’s new since their oldies were the same, no project. THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE of the many roads that should have been started, pending to be constructed, that can be initiated by any Senator above. Is the monstrous TRAFFIC JAM affecting the everyday life of Juan de la Cruz? It affects very much psychologically, just imagine traveling everyday for a total of 4 hours back and forth in just a short distance. Maybe that’s the reason Filipinos cannot analyze properly, and yes, they had more time listening to radio during filing of impeachment complaint, and many heard the speeches of Cayetano and Escudero. Yah, that’s why they won.

These are just a few of the many issues that must be given priority by politicians. Will another impeachment process solve them? If you are short sighted and always looking at the past, 2004 election cheating, then pity you. You will suffer these issues for the next 20 years.

GMA instructed her Energy secretary this week to initiate review of EPIRA law and proposed changes. I think that’s a good start. So better sit down and be on guard of your President whom you charged of cheating, if she’s doing her job. If the GDP goes flat (like the brainwaves of some of the bloggers here), interest rates of your credit cards goes up, and you don’t find wanted jobs at any Sunday news paper and stock market index is nearly 900 points since investors are flying out of the country (just like what happened in 1998-2001 prior to EDSA 2), then do not impeach GMA anymore. Let’s do EDSA 3 and KICK HER OUT!

IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

Paghindi inimpeach,mas lalo pang maraming Pilipino ang mamamatay habang nakaupo si Gloria.
Maraming Pilipino ang nagugutom sapagkat hindi nila pinag-aaralang mabuti at kinikilala kung sino ang iboboto kaya pag naluklok na ang kandidato ay nangungurakot ng pera ng bayan kaya ang perang dapat sana'y mapunta sa bayan ay binubulsa na lamang. Pag magkakaroon ng halalan, ang mga tao ay HINGI DITO, HINGI DOON sa mga kandidato kaya naman ang pobreng pulitiko ay kinakailangang mabawi ang kanyang gastos,saan nya kukunin???syempre sa pera ng bayan. Kaya sa aking palagay ay natutuksong mangulimbat ng pera ng bayan ang mga pulitiko maliban na lamang doon sa ibang pulitiko na talagang MAKAPAL ang MUKHA, MGA GANID na nagnanakaw ng pera ng bayan.

IMPEACH!

Kung si Erap nga e hinarap nya ang mga akusasyon na ipinaparatang si kanya, e bakit hindi maharap ni Gloria, dahil malalaman ng sambayanang Pilipino ang kalokohan nyang pinaggagagawa. Malakas ang loob nya because she was protected by her evil allies especially in the congress and the secretary of injustice. I believe,time will come na pananagutan nya ang mga kasalan nya sa taumbayan.Sabi nga ni JOKER ARROYO,and i quote,"WE CANNOT HAVE A COUNTRY RUN BY A THIEF".

Kim
in the case of GMA, it is impossible to impeach her for now bec. of the voting numbers at congress. but GMA should answer the case thrown at her. she should not escape from all her accusations. when her term expires at presidency she should face and answer all the accusations otherwise the people will put her to jail.
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Fr: Salina

They did try to impeach her but nothing happen because the people who's been protecting her well not sign the impeachment trial. Even though there is solid evidence against her. We need a strong person who can stand for what is right, Strong enough to protect and serve the filipino people not their own interest.

After all these people setting in office suppose to serve and protect the filipino people but yet they're the one killing the filipino people. They're abusing their power. this is not the kind of person we need to sit in government office's. I'll say, Its time to overhaul the entire corrupt government office's. If you want for the Philippines to move forward.

to kim:

"i don’t see any relation between feeding the hungry & the impeachment. our laws doesn’t see the co-relation bet the two. violation of the law and or constitution is a crime punishable by the law itself. there’s no parallel bet. our hungry stomach and the crime committed. it’s like you stole a drug in the pharmacy or food at the restaurant and seemingly said to police that your children are sick or hungry and you want to be released?

now the problem we will be facing for our future generation is that it’s ok for them to do things that are in violation of our laws of the land. and all our future generation will do the same. and this is not good sign to inculcate to our young children that stealing the highest position of the land, and doing corrupt practices by our leaders is just ok for our society.

therefore my conclusion is that whoever violated our laws and our constitution must be served with utmost law of the land. for now, the only possible actions to serve with this case of violation is only through impeachment. due to the immunity status, our law cannot put a sitting president in jail, only when the term expired that it can be served to jail.

therefore any crime must pay and that no one is above the law regardless if we are president of the republic or just an ordinary citizen."

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nice analogy KIM I agree, the only thing i dont agree is, she should answer the charges before congress while shes still squatting as the president.

there is a reason why GMAs lineup for senate lost 8-2-2 is the quality of people she chose, it seems like her lineup was a desperation one, singson? pichay? defensor? OMG, please know who these people are, its a desperate lineup because no quality candidate would run under GMA because they wouldnt be able to stomach the "garapalan" that has been going on.
we seem to have this thinking that if we impeach GMA that she will be found guilty/impeachment is just a process to flush out the truth.
GMA has been pushing the limits of the constitution to a point that the judicial branch has to decide if it is within limits of the constitution.

"The evidence, at that time, was valid and definitely pushed through. Thus, ERAP was impeached at the Lower House"

ERAP was not impeached the trial was sent to the senate but never impeached, I wanted to see the trial go through the to end but the rest is history. The same way I want an impeachment trial for GMA.

This much is sure GMA is going to push cha cha again in our throats and she is going to spend billions again just to get it started. It is not the impeachment thats going bring the economy down its GMAs cha cha and her policies.