SINCE the NBN [national broadband network] deal has already been scrapped, I believe that the Senate should stop its inquiry and spend its time on what they are supposed to be doing in the first place.
Let the justice department or the Office of the Ombudsman take over. If the senators want to pursue the case, let it be outside the Senate hearing and through the justice system, otherwise what they are doing is being used for the purpose of positioning themselves in the coming election — or are they not?
– Johnny Nicar, Surrey, British Columbia, Canada (via e-mail)
July 13th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
wawang pogita
July 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
NBN is required primarily for security reasons. Whether it is cost effective or not is secondary. The government, especially the Defense and Foreign Affairs departments, can not allow their sensitive communications containing important information, strategies and decisions to flow through unchecked private systems or operators (PLDT, Smart, Globe, Sun, or what not).
True, security is just a set of hardware and software safeguards designed for different authorized levels of access, transmission and reception; being preventive in nature, security is NEVER perfect. Yet, an ounce of prevention is better than trying to plug up system leaks in a BOT project where the owner and the operator is not the government. By security we must also consider service stoppage due to company slowdowns, strikes or sabotage.
In this competitive world, everybody is trying to spy on everybody and all types of espionage are being carried out everywhere, even inside Los Alamos National Laboratory. It is for the user client to watch out and install their own security measures after the final turnover of each project. The easiest way to spy on a system whether government or corporate is through a BOT communication network.
In the ZTE/NBN arrangement, the system operations is not in the hands of the Chinese or private entity; thereby, making it a better choice over a BOT offer.
The perfect solution is, of course, to have enough resources (no foreign loans or technology) to design, install, and operate our own network; devise our own encryption, firewalls, intrusion detection, and other security systems.
Even if we can achieve this dream, our nightmare is still politics and corruption.
July 7th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Pogito, your balut vendor is feeding you nothing but what those two lame ducks produced - all Penoys (not exactly the right food for the brains).
July 6th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Harry King, shouldn’t you be called Harry Queer? I know you from somewhere. Were you not the inspiration for GOLEM of the Lord of the rings. My precious!
While were at Dubya Bush and your dwarf idol GMA, what was their meeting all about? It’s about two soon to be nobodies trying to make a last ditch of what the offices they hold entail. And like what they have been known to achieve during their term - it means nothing. And for nothing, GMA brought a whole cohort of scam to the big US of A. That’s the filipinos tax money GOLEM!
Matsing, u have devolved as much as u can. U should try lobotomy to save whatever is left of ur puny mind. If u were just human, I would have pity u. But as u are, ur just one more monkey of no consequence. Moron might really be a bit harsh even for you, but if you claim to be more than the monkey that u are, then the term Moron rightly applies. Learn from Tasyo and Allan, I heard they’ve gotten a succesful 2nd lobotomy. U should try that too.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Pogito,
keep sending your valuable remittances so that the Gloria administration can be on its feet. Your President needs your contributions badly to finance her projects. Im sure she’ll thank you for your contributions.
Thanks for your same sentiment on Meralco, the real deal greed group!
Bayani ka pare ko!
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Pogito: Ok I understand. You came from a retard family thats why. Is your dad still inside NMH (National Mental Hospital)? And how about your mom? Is she out of QI (Quezon Institute)? Well, anyways, everyone knew that you’re a Planaria. Or what I mean…a tape worm! Thats normal to you. Pity you hmmmmmm. Worm!
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Moron? You wanna take this personal pare? I’ll give you my number then lets talk. I wont let you get away with this hamster! Tignan ko tapang mo.
July 1st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Let Pogito send his balut vendor to the White House to negotiate with Mr. Bush on how to control world speculation on oil markets and terrorism in the Philippines.
In the meantime, he and all those that oppose the PGMA regime can show the rest of the Filipinos the way to Malacanang. Please don’t forget to bring along the boloes — symbols of the struggle of Katipuneros against the Spanish tyranny. To assuage the uncontrollable anger of Pogito, if blood must flow and heads have to roll, so be it?
July 1st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Taxj says: In its decision on the Neri petition the SC ruled that the Senate may not ask the following questions: Did Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo follow up the national broadband network (NBN) project with then socioeconomic planning secretary Romulo Neri? Was Neri dictated to prioritize the Chinese firm ZTE Corporation?
Why the ruling? What harm could those two questions possibly do? Following-up and prioritizing laudable projects are normal Executive functions! Has the SC, perhaps, ruled that the CTE-NBN deal was so bad that even such a routinely act would constitute a grievous crime or cause uproar in diplomatic circles?
x-x-x-x-x
How about the banned third question? “Did Arroyo tell him to go ahead and approve the project despite being told about the alleged bribe?”
Before the SC handed its decision Neri had already admitted in the Senate inquiry that he already told the President about the 200 million offered by Ben Abalos. Still, the President did not cancel the project. Even when she did she first admitted she signed it even if she knew beforehand that the contract is flawed. What then is the logic in banning the Senate from asking a question the answer of which is already of public knowledge?
The only plausible answer is, the SC set sanity aside to please boss Gloria.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Jangjang, ur ignorant and apathetic. Ur brain must be working in reverse mode, or not at all.
I don’t mind if MERALCO gets the axe. But it doesn’t mean ur DWARF should be off the hook. She’s the cause of all the country’s ill, ARROYO should be hanged!
Matsing, go back to the zoo and devolve further! U moron!
June 1st, 2008 at 8:06 pm
As usual TFC ay bias sa lahat. Mapa entertainment at politica. Yaan nyo na at least sa “Feeling” nila. Mataas rating nila. Nawawala ata si Bobito este pogito ha? Asan na yun? Mukang nagsa Pusa na naman. Haaaayyyyyy.
May 27th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Nice to hear from you guys, All I know that this blog topic died together with Cayetano and Lacson’s failure
Oh, Pogito is alive ang kicking! Wawa naman tong taong to walang kakampi?
Accept your defeat Pogito, just go home in 2010 to vote your fave candidate.
Your President GMA will welcome you and hug you by the time you arrive here because your a hero to our economy as an OFW. Accept the truth that GMA is your President, cmon!
Mabuhay ka at patuloy na magpadala ng dollars so that the Govt will run smoothly.
Stop watching TFC. Bias reporting lang ang maririnig mo. Kita mo ang depensa nila sa Meralco? Gusto ng amo nila sila pa din ang monopoliya at ayaw ibaba ang singil sa kuryente, itataas pa nga nila!
Gusto mo ba Pogito na mahal ang singil sa kuryente sa mga uncle at auntie mo dito sa Pinas?
Sa Meralco ka na lang magalit ha? ok good boy ha?
May 27th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Dimwit? Ako? Or baka ikaw? All I can say is…..You are very very very lucky person. Laugh as long as you can. Lets see who have the last one….See you padre!
May 25th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Matsing, you dimwit! If it’s the joke of the century, then the joke’s on you. You are indeed a dissapointment. Jokers like you ought not to be treated seriously. You’re one reason why GMA fosters and festers.
Thanks to the likes of YOU, GMA laughs all the way to the bank.
May 5th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
” People say that 2 heads are better than one. The thing is, even if you put Jangjang, alex, tasyo, natros, matsing, and your head together, it will amount to nothing.”
Hahahahahaha. Joke of the Century!
April 28th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Allan, you dimwit, there is no law in the philippines. If there is, it’s not implemented. Pray tell me where a vermin such as yourself has been hiding all the time.
People say that 2 heads are better than one. The thing is, even if you put Jangjang, alex, tasyo, natros, matsing, and your head together, it will amount to nothing.
Remember, yours is an empty shell!
April 10th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Jang-Jang, Alex Reyes, Matsing and Tasyo please be kind and not cruel to Pogito.
Pogito has the law behind him. Theres already a law prohibiting cruelty to animals. But theres no law prohibiting animals from being cruel to human. Its legal for him to be cruel to us but not the otherway around.
April 10th, 2008 at 9:05 am
DID Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo follow up the national broadband network (NBN) project with then socioeconomic planning secretary Romulo Neri? Was Neri dictated to prioritize the Chinese firm ZTE Corporation? Did Arroyo tell him to go ahead and approve the project despite being told about the alleged bribe?
These questions may no longer be asked of Neri by senators investigating the scandal-tainted $329-million NBN deal as the Supreme Court, in a 9-6 vote this afternoon, upheld Neri’s invocation of executive privilege over them.
In a majority decision penned by Associate Justice Teresita Leonardo-de Castro, all nine justices were convinced that the communications elicited by the three questions are covered by the presidential communications privilege.
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If Gloria Arroyo, Don’t have anything to hide why suppress the truth. Truth of the matter is she is guilty to the core!
April 9th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Hi Pogito! Everyone can understand your reaction. Its a normal feeling if someone tells you what the truth about you right? Do you want to have some bananas also? Naaaaaahhhh. Bananas is for Monkeys Definetly! And POGITO is for ASO!
April 8th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Matsing, what you do not know could kill you. You have so much empty space in that little place where you’re brain ought to be that you’re whole life just sucks. You and the rest of your pack do not need tea. Your monkeys, go find some bananas.
The extent of GMA’s corruption is truly fascinating. Look at the faces of Matsing, Jangjang, ALex Reyes, Allan, Alvin and Tasyo. Now, be afraid! Be very afraid!
April 1st, 2008 at 3:01 pm
To POGITO:
Are you living in that Stinky corner of Al Attar? I pity you coz you have no money to stay in a better place. Better stay in the consulate together with DH who run away from their sponsors. At least you have a better place to stay. Sa pilipinas ba Mansion bahay mo?
I hope you’re not working as an Illegal coz you sounds one.
And could you please make some tea for Jang-Jang, Alex Reyes, Allan , Tasyo and Me.
you are getting paid for that right?
March 30th, 2008 at 10:59 am
C’mon pogidiot! that’s your name right? Pogidiot! Argue like a man. What do you mean by discernment? You mean you’ve seen the light already? You’ve DISCERNED? And what you’ve discerned is what you argue? And you are an enlightened person already? Hahahaha! Dumb as a doorknob.
So long as you won’t support your arguments with anything that will knock sense to the rest of us then I will keep banging on your door man. I want to be enlightened too, like you. So please convince me. Dumb as a doorknob.
March 29th, 2008 at 1:39 am
Pogito says;
“Hang them all for all I care, that is the fate of cheaters and liars. Let no one be spared, especially not your beloved GMA. Do you understand?”
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We understand it clearly Pogito. When will you be back, so we can also arrange your hanging. You’re one of the stupid people that put GMA to where she is now. If she is a cheater and liar to you then you are the same and should join her in the gallows together with Erap, Binay, Ping and Jamby.
Pogito you’re an empty thinking, ignorant, conceited person who think he can digest without eating! What you want is for people who disagree with you to roll over & play dead. There is more hope for a fool than you. The only thing you shared in this blog is you’re never-failing sign of great self-ignorance.
Now, your brain is so screwed that you start to act like Malu Fernandez. What’s wrong if an OFW resides in a stinky corner of Al Attar? The truth Pogito, you stinks more. Do yourself a favor, get mental help.
“The weakest spot in every man is where he thinks himself to be the wisest.”
- Nathaniel Emmons
March 26th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Alex Reyes, you’re in the MidEast? Tell me it’s not some stinkin corner in Al Attar. You sound like a pervert and you acted like one. Anyone would feel violated. Keep yourself away from things your diminished mind could not comprehend. You’re an ignoramus! It doesn’t matter whether ERAP or VIDAL are also corrupt. Hang them all for all I care, that is the fate of cheaters and liars. Let no one be spared, especially not your beloved GMA. Do you understand?
JangJang, you sounded more like “eng-eng”. You agree with a retard, that tells everything about you!
Dementia is getting the better of what’s left of your pathetic almond size brain. You, JangJang, Allan, and Tasyo belong together, All of you are idiots trough and through. As I’ve said many times over, discernment doesn’t come by merely wishing for it - idots like you just don’t have it.
March 25th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Alex san ka sa ME? Nasa ME din ako. Sa open city
March 24th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Alex Reyes:
Ayoko makialam sa inyo pero i agree with you 100%. May pinag-aralan ka unlike the guy( tama ba spelling ko?)
March 22nd, 2008 at 2:35 pm
POGITO….
Sorry ha… nasasaktan ka pala… ng sinabi mo ” you feel violated”… at iginanti mo salita…
… perv. as pervert… REALLY MIRRORS YOUR PERSONALITY MAN…for all the lies you and the band of people like you who are sowing lies in the net and for all the unsubstantiated accusation you hurled against Gloria are clear indication of having a perverted mind… isn’t it?
Dont get hurt when you accused other people here of being moron… stupid… magnanakaw… etc…
Ganyang ganyang UGALI ni ERAP na MANADRAMBONG at ibang oposisyon na prinoprotektahan mo IGAN… KUNG SILA MAGNAKAW OK ABA AT NA PARDON PA…EH KUNG IBA NAG AASTANG BAYANI…AT GALIT…
SA iyong palagay sino mas sinungaling… at perverted si ERAP o si CARDINAL VIDAL…
Natatalo na argumento ninyo sa tulong ng media… nalalantad na mga perversion ninyong lahat…
Walang iyakan… walang aray… wag ka gumaya kay LOZADA… PAG NAMBATO KA EH ALAM MO MAY GANTI…
BATI… TAYO HA… USAPAN LANG ITO… WALANG PERSONALAN… pero kung type mo nandito ako sa middle east…
March 21st, 2008 at 8:42 pm
The only way to stop all this mess is CHARTER CHANGE. And we all live happily ever after. Simple.
March 17th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Oppositions becomes sore losers as they didnt get what they expect in the long run.
They treat the corruption issues like a “sports game”, donning sports uniforms with “truth” printed on it, but are dirty players themselves resorting to sarcastic name calling and with selfish gameplan blowing right to their faces, what a pathetic team these oppositions are.
Losers in these blog loop feels the crunch and just sit down in a corner with no one to the rescue.
The Evil Spirit do churn wickedness ALONE in the dark, disguising under the black cloak of a truth searcher.
March 14th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
“Evil is evil no matter the sugar coating”.
Perfect description of yourself Pogito.
Cant blame us, guy like you who dont know how to pray probably did prayed to Garci unknowingly or your just so stupid to remember.
“Stick to GMA who steals, cheat, kills and lies” You’re kind are the one who puts her there, you should be the one sticking to her.
A “retard” and a”moron” is someone you see everytime you look at the mirror.
Too bad, isnt it, not too favourable review in your orchestrated senate circus. Sponsors are backing out, audience are dwindling, close to folding out. Tsk..tsk..anyway locked-up and feed the animals they could still be useful in the next controversy.
Hows the treatment going…
March 13th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
To Alex Reyes: Thanks Lolo, I’m doing better than most who are having a lapse of judgement. The way you mentioned my name makes it sound you’re having a come on. I feel violated, you perv.
To Allan: I could be accused of many things but not once could I be accused of praying to GARCI. Stop acting high and mighty you hypocritical retard! Stick to GMA who steals, cheat, kills and lies. The company you choose tells exactly what kind of moron you are.
To Jang-jang: Spare me the sweet nonsense! Evil is evil no matter the sugar coating.
March 13th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Pogito my man! You’ve been calling me a moron for a countless number of times. I am starting to believe that I may be one. Hehehe…But then again…
Hey, I did what you told me. I read all your comments twice over. But I can’t find a single argument that’s in groove with intelligent discourse on the current issues that seem to grip the nation. I even tried to seek the help of a crystal gazer to discern any hint of logic in your comments but she says she sees nothing. Zero. Nada.
I am a great fan of critical thinking and so far everything you said were all brickbats that don’t make goddamn sense. The essence of what you wrote could not even fit a postage stamp! Not a piece of logic could be found buried in that heap of balderdash and claptrap you call your comments. The issue is whether to stop the nbn senate probe. Got it? And you keep on dishing out passages lifted from cheap desktop calendars, yapping about the morality of it all…Well…child molesters have their own brand of morality too. It’s cheap stuff man.
So again, where’s your counter-argument? Perhaps, you can help me find them in your comments. I feel i am in a septic tank each time I look for the meaning of your words that will help me discern the gospel that you preach. So let’s journey together and swim deep into your comments. Who knows? you might be able to dig something from it and perhaps show to the world that brain evolution favored you too. So far, you only got a reptilian brain to work with.
Again, let’s respect our institutions. Let the marvel of the law work for us. Produce evidence that can stand the test of judicial scrutiny. Stop the madness! Stop the NBN probe! Numb nut! You! How’s that pogito? Numb nut. Nice eh?
March 12th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
ABA grabe na sagutan dito ah… pogitooooooooooo iho…musta na kafhatid… anu na lagay ng pinaglalaban natin… cge fight fight ha… para masaya
March 12th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
TASYO, your reasoning is flawless for everything that crawls on four feet. You’re a bit slow are you? That’s what brain dead people are I supposed. read the comments twice over, the words will sink in in due time. In your case, maybe never. But it’s worth a try. Discernment is really something morons like you don’t have.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Oppositions in the present times are of different breed. They are shouting a common call but really dont know where their chanting are going to. So, they DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SHOUTING ABOUT.
Fragmented, backbiters, sarcastic name callers and self-interest. These are the characteristics of the present oppositions.
Senate is very much like these. Divided by party affiliations and to each his own political careers,
Whose senator would hang his shirt while they’r having a high time now, especially with the media
KAYA NAMAN NASUNOG SI LACSON WITH HIS “SURPRISE” WITNESS, A DOUSE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE.
Pass the NBN hearing to the Courts and see how it goes then the people can discern from the Court’s judgement.
Over Acting na ang nangyayari sa Senate. It must be put to an end there.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Pogito Says:
March 6th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
“Aba naman Gloria, puno kana ng Grasya! Ang yaman ng Bansa ay sumaiyo na! Sa husay ni Garci naging pekeng Pangulo ka…
Bukod kang mandaraya sa Babaeng lahat, pinagpala rin ang mangungurakot na ASAWA mo at mga ANAK. Kaya wala ng natira sa….. AMEN!”
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Youre mistaken that we are brothers, only you is sired by the devil. Its very clear who is evil here, mocking prayers is one of the devils past time.
The truth is not lost, its clearly seen, heard and read over the TV and papers. The senate can’t prove anything, theyre are still on a witch hunt. Mocking the institution they represent, wasting tax payers money, promoting laziness among Filipinos by keeping them glued, watching their stupid TV circus, corrupting their minds with lies and deceit, instigating anarchy and sow hopelesness. Thereby, limitting their productivity, lessening their income, undermining their progress, hence they stay poor and easily bought during elections. And they dont stop there, they release another evil in the form of Lozada to corrupt the minds of our youth. Only the devil like the senators and Pogito can muster such a hideous plot.
You can’t cure a sickness (corruption) by cutting off the symptom (Gloria), to effectively treat it you have to destroy the virus (corrupt mentality, Pogito, et al) that causes it. Pogito by being what you are now, you really owe your children a lot. And acting like you have a brain, can’t repay them. Do the human race a favor, stay as a monkey and stop thinking your human.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Eto kasi lang talaga ang panlaban ng opposition… ang mag-akusa nang mag-akusa.
Di na nila pinuproblema kung mapapatunayan nila yun. Ang importante ay malason nila ang isipan ng ilan-ilan.
Mukhang humihina ang apoy sa NBN, kailangan gatungan ng Spratly. Expect more to come. Eh napakadaling mag-accuse eh.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Marami na naabala ang NBN investigation na ito, mga radio stations whose program to help the poor and needy was cut by these grandstanding senate investigation.
Masyado naman kasi binibigay na airtime at news ng media sa mga presidentiable senators na ito, bakit? baka naman may “CASHunduan” na on the investigation or on the 2010 election???
Well, the NBN investigation will die a natural death, marami na din nagsasawa na.
Pwede ba yung Spratly issue naman???
March 10th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Pogito, I am still waiting for your arguments to come in. Remember? The points i’ve raised? C’mon freak. Give it your best shot. You call me a lunatic! You call my arguments lame, pathetic and nonsense. And you say i’m brain dead.But you’re not offering any counter-arguments. Are you afraid you might not measure up…Haha! Dumb shit!
March 10th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Masama ang ehemplong ibinigay mo Pogito. But I do not expect better than that from you. Kung talagang ganyan kakitid lang ang pag-iisip mo.
Nahuli mo ang anak mong nagnakaw, ikukumpara mo sa ibinibintang kay PGMA. Malaki na talaga ang SIRA NG ULO MO!
Kapag sinabi mong nahuli, may matibay kang ebidensya (tulad nung nahuli mo sa akto). Pero yung sinasabi mo para kay PGMA, BINTANG lang yun. Dahil wala pa rin maipakitang matibay na ebidensya.
Alam kong di kayang abutin ng pag-iisip mo ang mga paliwanag at komentaryo ng mga tao dto lalo na’t di sang-ayon sa KABOBOHAN mo! Pero para to sa ibang nakakabasa at nang di malason ang kanilang isipan ng MAKAMANDAG mong pag-iisip.
March 9th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Ang pandaraya ay isang bagay na hindi dapat pahintulutan. Kapag ito ay ginawa ng harap-harapan ng mga taong syang dapat na magsilbing huwaran, ang bayan ay siguradong walang patutunguhan. Kapatid din nito ang pagkagahaman, pagnanakaw, pagpatay at pagsupil sa katotohanan.
Walang maaasahan sa isang taong “MORALLY BANKRUPT”. Kagaya ni GMA, sila yung mga taong gagawin lang kung ano ang mabuti para sa sarili nila. Tumatawag sila kay GARCI at hindi sa diyos. Sumusumpa sila na animo’y buwitre na kakain sa atin sa sandaling pagkalingat.
Kung mahuli mo ang iyong anak na nandaya sa exam, nangupit sa pitaka mo at harapang nagsinungaling sayo, me magagawa ka ba kung ang sagot nya ay ganito: E bakit si GMA nagagawa nya lahat ito. Idol ko si GMA!!!
San ka pupulutin kaibigan?
Now going back to the GMA FAN CLUB:
TASYO, you raving lunatic! You never fail to fascinate me. Planktons don’t have brain. Just like you don’t have one. Your constant use of “.0001 percent” just goes to show how brain dead people’s thinking amount to much – that is nil you moron. Your use of metaphor, if we could call them that, is pretty lame and pathetic. Pray tell me where you learn that sort of stuff. Your school did you no good.
“Dogs… burn down the house to kill the rats!” What nonsense! Your perversion got the better of you this time, TASYO.
Your way of life is truly in danger, TASYO. I heard morons and brain dead people like you are close to extinction. I’m not calling you names. I’m simply identifying you for what you truly are so you won’t mistake yourself for anybody else. (Point in case is ALLAN).
ALLAN, you twit, you are so far gone. Role playing is not doing you any good. You are not a doctor. If it’s a bondage game that has gone too far, then you need to stop. Nobody could guarantee if a second lobotomy would work on you.
Now bring in some more clowns:
ALVIN, you sanctimonious cretin, thinking is not good for you. Stop if it hurts. GMA said she hears the voice of God. Now what could be more blasphemous than that – IMAGINING GARCI TO BE GOD!
RONALD, ungodly is when you lie, cheat, steal and kill like GMA does. If I may correct you, Jesus taught the Lord’s prayer (which starts with Our Father…), not the Hail Mary. May god forgive you for not knowing your Religion.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Putting an end to the investigation because the deal has been scrapped anyway is like alowing the thief to go scot free because he has returned his loot or desisted from consummating the crime. Are we Filipinos really that naive, or have we sunk so low that we cannot feel anger anymore even if those in the highest posts of government screw our lives? Granted that the senators may have their own personal agenda, does that matter at all, or does it justify all this attempt to hide such a hideous, nauseating crime against the entire Filipino people? Nixon resigned because he tried to cover up for his subordinates: he lied. But here we have a President who has been lying through her teeth all these years - from Garci to ZTE - and all we say is “So What?”
March 7th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
it is really unfortunate that the senate has turned into one hell of a circus. gone were the days(by reading history)when the likes of diokno, tañada, aquino, sumulong, and others debate about real issues affecting the nation, unlike what these senators are doing in front of the cable tv, for 2010 posturings.
tasyo…yes, the senate has exceeded the bounds of its authority.
perhaps, these senators are glued to these telenovelas ;-(( they are “un-presidential” in demeanor. vicious and malicious..
next week, expect the continuance of the telenovela w/ a new witness, maybe c/o ping lacson again. one journalist said, he has a “witness academy”.
but i wish, neri will testify, once and for all, so that this nbn will come to an end.
if he can pin down gma, then, let noli succeed.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Pogito, NAPAKASAMA NG GINAWA MO! Pinagbibintangan mong evil si PGMA pero di mo alam na MAS EVIL KA PALA!
Pati dasal binaboy mo! Tulad ka ng idolo mong si HUDAS este ni Lozada at ng iba nyang tagasunod na pinaglalaruan pati relihiyon makamit lang ang MADUMING HANGARIN!
March 7th, 2008 at 12:56 am
Pogito as I said, learn to accept your mistake and youll be free from your guilt.
Gloria is there because your kind made her. And I am not role playing, if theres anybody here who is acting like a doctor it is you. Your are trying to force your stupid medicine to a sick society you are a part of. You can’t even diagnose the sickness from the symptoms. Gloria is the symptom, corruption is the sickness and your kind is the virus that causes it and needed to be eradicated. For 20 years your kind pester the society, corrupt the youth and instigate anarchy. And your kind is mutating (changing alliances) making it more difficult to treat. And Im not surprise why your fond of monkeys, we test viruses on monkeys, it must have a different effect on you that you started to think your human. I rather have a brain the size of a an almond but still think straight rather than a brain like yours a size of a coconut, but think screwed. Were happy at the center that you can now composed a prayer, keep it going its part of your healing process. Next session we will try to channel your efforts to write something constructive, of course it will still depends if your large brain can handle it, we dont want to screw it further. BTW, you left your rubber doll at the clinic yesterday, please pick it up, nobody wants to touch it (health reasons). We know its yours because theres a marking at the left thigh of the doll “Quassimodo was here”. Dont forget your medication and control your temper, we dont want to loose you.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
the real evil are those people who are making fun of the prayers that jesus thought us. that’s unGODLY. may GOD forgive you!
March 6th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
pogito, you’re just incredibly incredible! I have this suspicion that you are not really as dumb as a doorknob. Only dumber.
For the nth time I’m going to tell you that GMA is not the issue. If only you have half the brain of a plankton i may have agreed with you that she may be evil indeed. But you don’t know evil even if it spat on your self-righteous face so I’m going to allow myself to stay unconvinced and pursue my hypothesis that brain evolution only favored you with a reptilian brain only. A breakthrough discovery!
Let me go back to the real issue pogito. Our way of life is in danger of going to the dogs because dumb people like you wont hesitate to burn down the house to kill the rats. Gma may be a liar and a cheat but the house is burning fast. Read the senate. Look at how it is doing its job of checking the supposed excesses of the executive. It has exceeded the bounds of its authority. Look at how jamby has transformed into a vicious attack dog abandoning human reason at the first sniff of blood. This is madness! Look at how some of the media practitioners give lazy treatment to the merits of the opposing arguments which has produced the effect of burying material issues that could help us in making reasoned judgments. Do you see the striking similarities between what the senate is doing and how media is playing its role in the soap opera? Are you seeing the perils which prejudice can bring about in a society that does not respect the simple rules that are supposed to govern human actions? Civil war, strife, loss of life, liberty and property are among the freebies that your call for action could engender.
If such a scenario happens then it would be because people like you once upon got too reptilian-brained and allowed your anger to hijack your reason. I told you before that a .0001 percent chance that it might happen is bad enough. No it’s not about GMA. We have laws that deal with malfeasance in public office.
And we also have the right place for people who endanger the life and future of our kids: the nuthouse. Quit calling us names and argue against the points that i am raising here. Let’s see if you really have it in you. Allan, the doctor, was right after all. You need medication.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
ALLAN, you are so far gone. How many times do I have to remind you that you are not a real doctor. Role playing is doing you no good.
It’s dementia eating through whatever is left of your almond-size brain.
Your stupidity shows at every turn. You are not even well read - unable to relate to the proverbial monkeys who see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil.
Of course, we know that we couldn’t expect things of that sort from you. I mean, for you, thinking must have really hurt.
As for my being self-righteous, here is a fact: Anyone compared to you is better. Well, you might be tied with GMA.
I really do hope you get over the fact that you have no brain, Allan. Even the little that is left is not working! You can’t even get well because you are what you are: A moron! Here’s a prayer for though:
“Aba naman Gloria, puno kana ng Grasya! Ang yaman ng Bansa ay sumaiyo na! Sa husay ni Garci naging pekeng Pangulo ka…
Bukod kang mandaraya sa Babaeng lahat, pinagpala rin ang mangungurakot na ASAWA mo at mga ANAK. Kaya wala ng natira sa….. AMEN!”
March 6th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
the only solution to all this madness is CHARTER CHANGE. the senate abolished and make them a fact finding body. at least we save php200 million each from their pork barrels. they don’t like to legislate, because it does not give them media mileage. so what’s the use of having a senate?
March 6th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Pogito you forgot your medication again. You want to kick out the real monkeys at Malacanang? Hmm.. are you suggesting youre another kind of monkey? We know your so pissed off at Gloria because your one of those stupid, crazy, duped people that put her there. Well you deserve her, accept your fault and you will be free from your guilt. Dont enticed us to believe you are clean and self-righteous, because you are not. You have no thoughts, what you shared here so far is nothing but emotions. So the words are all baseless, pointless and plain stupidity. Youre so screwed that you can barely separate facts from fiction. And worst you let your emotions define your personality. Pogito, that name is a sign of self-deprecation, so chill out and eat your bananas. Again, please dont call your doctor with stupid names, because, being my patient it reflects back to you.
March 5th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Thoughts become words. Words become action. Actions become a habit. And what a person does always, define herself/ himself and the path she/ he is bound to take.
GMA lied on the grave of Rizal saying she wouldn’t run. Then she called GARCI to make sure she bag the crown anyhow. And just so anyone wouldn’t hold her accountable for her malevolent ways, she converted from ARROYO to PIDAL. She lied and cheated one time too many!
Don’t be like the 3 monkeys: See the TRUTH, Hear the TRUTH, and speak the TRUTH! Let’s kick out the real monkeys in Malacanang!
Now let’s get back to the clowns Allan and Tasyo, one of the best entertainments misfortune could afford.
ALLAN you twit, you said doctors know best. Heaven help us but you can’t be… If you’re a doctor, then Miriam Defensor-Santiago is Saint Theresa (Apologies to the good old nun, may her soul rest in peace). Pray tell how a brain dead moron could be a doctor? You can hardly complete a sentence. You’re incoherent most of the time and could barely keep up. Limit your practice to yourself so you can do no harm to other people. Remember always, you’re a Quack doctor.
TASYO, it’s really amazing for you to speak so highly of something you do not have – a brain! I should study you more. Could you please clarify your gender and preference? You call me man then now you call me baby. Is this a fetish that turns you on? And you said I’m the reason you “labor every night”, do you really want me that bad? Pardon my questions, but this would help me understand more the workings of a mindless moron and eventually would contribute to dealing with your retardation.
As always TASYO, your reasoning is flawless for everything that crawls on four feet. A five year old makes more sense than you do. Morons can’t win a Nobel prize. But keep dreaming.
How wonderful the mind is. I pity you guys, Allan and Tasyo, who doesn’t have one! You’re both idiots through and through!
March 5th, 2008 at 5:53 am
Johnny, you should come here to see what we see, hear what we hear and feel what we feel. Did you watch how those GMA goons answered and reacted on questions of the senators? Their nerves must be shivering for their statements may not coincide with other’s.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Pogito baby! haha!
your last blog is the final piece that will disprove the “triune brain theory” posited by a well-respected scientist of the U.S Institute of Mental Health. That the brain has three layers is no longer a valid scientific finding. I have been monitoring your brain behavior using the NBN deal to test for neuron activity but the monitor reading displayed no blips. It proves my hypothesis that not all humans have a cerebral cortex. this just might win me a nobel prize. This is what did you in:
Pogito: GMA is the source of corruption. You said the “Hello Garci” tape is sufficient to prove that she may have cheated in the 1994 elections. Because she cheated during the 1994 elections, ergo, she is guilty of corruption in the NBN deal. Myopic.
Scientific truth: If a person is not self-righteous he ought to know this: evidence that a person did something in the past is not evidence to prove that he did the same or similar thing at another time.
GMA has lost all moral ground to lead? Says who? You? That morality argument is the favorite refuge of the self-righteous who thinks that he knows better than the rest of us. What if we don’t share the kind of morality that you espouse? What if we don’t take your prescription because we are-amoral? Does that give you the license to play prophet and preach about the disintegration of the existing social order as the only way to our salvation? What if we don’t want to be saved eh? Answer: Then the moral thing to do is to label unbelievers like us as morons, stupid and nuts. Hahaha! Tunneled vision.
Well, that’s your opinion and you have every right to advance it. But from where we are sitting we have a different view of the world. Do you know what we call those who don’t respect our simple views and simple opinions, those that want to disturb the peace because they faithfully believe that it is for our own good? MENTAL CASE. That’s what we call them.
Do you know why I labor every night reading the garbage that you post? It’s because people like you have been force-feeding morons like us with your morality plays. And I am fed up. So please, for the love of God, stop the motivational passages and the chicken soups for the soul!
If you tell us that we ought to have sensed passion in all the things that you’ve said in your posts then I think it’s time for you to have your head consulted. You have been pursuing stupidity with incredible passion and you don’t even know it.
To my mind, you pose a danger not only to yourself but to the rest of the sane world. Act now! Consult a professional before it’s to late.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
I believe this blog title should also end together with its literal meaning.
A prolonged activity becomes sour as it drags on from its early day original sweetness.
Comments created out of hatred and continous rhetorical attacks on GMA are becoming comical statements.
“Evil”, “dwarf”, “bitch” are words unbecoming of those who use the terms, thrusting it to a woman like GMA or perhaps these people are using the same words to describe their MOTHERS, SISTERS, AUNTS, GRANDMOTHERS AND DAUGHTERS.
I appeal to some bloggers to focus on the corruption issues in our society and not to resort cynical name calling, ESPECIALLY TO A WOMAN. For sure, the stenchy remarks will bounce back to the horse’s mouth, literally!
March 4th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Thats good Pogito, let it out… express your anger, more…more…. its part of the healing process.. the more we read your thoughts the more we understand your condition. Dont be shy, a lot of people have the same condition as yours, although yours is more advance. As a starter for your treatment we have to advise you to stop talking to Quassimodo. BTW what you are feeling is not passion but anger, believe me doctors knows best.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Yo guys your barbs are real entertaining, sans name calling of course. But keep it coming, we may just learn something from this. This is a healthy sign of minds meeting minds, nothing violent, just expressing ideas and different views.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
GMA, GLORIA PIDAL-ARROYO or whatever it is the devil calls herself/ himself right now, has to go! The time to act is now.
TASYO, you wrote a lengthy gibberish explanation. And, I tire you? The extent of your madness fascinates me. Speaking of the brain, I give your doctor an A+ for explaining to you in details its function prior to your lobotomy. You speak so highly of something you so evidently don’t have!
Your argument shows your stupidity to be patent and pathologic. Thoughts define a person. I know you near enough. (By the way, do you have any relation to Hannibal Lecter?)
GMA is the source of corruption! What damning proof do you require? If “hello GARCI” is not enough proof for you, then no proof will suffice. Your President has lost all moral ground to lead. That is all there is to it.
ALLAN, it’s not TEMPER you sense but PASSION. You moron! You are beyond help, I’m sorry. Please don’t flaunt your limited vocabulary! You’re pathetic! (Pathetic means you’re miserably inadequate, you retard).
To ALLAN and TASYO: Don’t further mess your head up with things outside your cerebral realm. Nuts!
March 4th, 2008 at 1:06 am
A lot of people here seems an expert in running a government, but the temper theyre showing and the immaturity of their reasonings clearly show they can barely run theyre lives. Complain, remove, replace..how about giving details to it. .concrete actions to be taken..Too many words said too little substance…
Pogito thanks for calling the help hotline I gave you. My secretary will contact you in the immediate future. Im still working out the schedule for you. Jamby , Manny and Ping called first so its a first come first serve sort of thing. Anyway just hang on there and we will send help to you as soon as possible. Just continue what youre doing I’ll use it as the baseline of your case. Are you still talking to Quassimodo?
March 4th, 2008 at 12:24 am
Pogito my man. you tire me. but…let me tell you this:
The evolutionary development of the human brain has resulted in man having three layers of brain: the reptilian brain; the limbic brain; and the neocortex. The reptilian brain is composed of the brain stem and the cerebellum. Its primary job is to maintain bodily functions and trigger the instinct to fight or flee.The cerebellum is in charge of movement, the brain stem controls digestion, reproduction, circulation, breathing, and the need to stay alive. It is designed for physical survival. Very primitive. Pre-evolution.
The limbic brain is the second layer (on top of the reptilian brain). It is primarily concerned with emotions.
The topmost brain is the neocortex and it responsible for verbal, mathematical and logical thinking, as well as cognitive and problem-solving functions.
Let me expose the weaknesses of your arguments and demonstrate my theory that the neocortex cannot be present in the heads of all humans all the time. Corollary theory: It is absent in some humans. Let me present it scientifically:
Pogito: Tasyo speaks like a true crook.
Tasyo: You don’t know me.
Verdict: Again, you speculate so generously. Like in your past statements, this one is pregnant with conjecture/speculation, and was made despite the utter lack of any personal knowledge concerning facts that could conclusively establish my personal qualities as that of a crook.
Brain used: reptilian brain (moving/acting without thinking)
Contemporaries: Some senators especially the lady who flashed the “FG” document in the direction of the cameras, JDV III, Lozada, Madriaga and the jedi knights that led the street warriors.
Pogito: “Words are like leaves…much fruit of sense beneath is rarely found.” So walang katuturan and walang laman.
Tasyo: More doesn’t always mean less.
Verdict: Wrong analogy and therefore CORNY. It must have been lifted from the footnote of a page of a feel-good desk calendar.
Brain used: limbic brain. (too emotional)
Contemporaries: Lozada, the lady senator, the running priest and sister mercy.
Pogito: “GMA is the source of corruption”
Tasyo: Empty statement. Highly speculative. No evidence available to substantiate it and therefore qualifies as merely the opinion of a …(pls check below)
Verdict: Don’t always trust the evidence of your senses. Sometimes they trick you into forming a salad of misplaced beliefs glued together by the lack of brain activity. By the way, respected psychologists all agree that your beliefs shape your character. Note: The word “source” means origin. Did I hear it from one of the senators that corruption originated in china?
Brain used: reptilian brain (breathing and digestion functions. zero limbic and neocortex activity)
Contemporaries: The general senator, the trade senator, the young blue ribbon senator, the lady senator and the old senator who thinks the chinese embassy officials will quake in their boots if threats of arrest and deportation are employed against them.
Pogito: “don’t separate the crime from the criminal”
Tasyo: i agree. you do not separate that which is already separate by virtue of purpose. Crime or felony is the act or omission punishable by law. The criminal is the actor or the doer of the criminal act.
Verdict: Government corruption is the issue. It is a crime. This is what we are all pontificating about. This what we should get rid of, tirelessly. Forever. The issue of whether GMA is guilty or not (whether she is a criminal or not) is separate and distinct from the issue about how to effectively address the crime of corruption (comprehensive approaches to eliminate corruption). Why? Because the one issue does not depend on the other for its resolution and the resolution of one does not prejudice the other. Imagine a 6 year old orphan who stole a piece of bread because he was hungry. Hunger in a streak. The crime committed is theft. Question: Should we send him to jail because the criminal and the crime should not be separated? Or shall we address the issue of extreme poverty that triggered a series of events which ultimately moved the orphan to steal?
Brain used: reptilian brain (digestion and breathing functions) zero limbic and neocortex activity
Contemporaries: Same as above; all of the above
Pogito: “Why would I or any people in his right mind want to be in unity with you.”
Tasyo: When i said “motherhood statements…won’t hold us together” I did not intend “us” to include you. Again, that’s speculative of you. But I am a little bothered. When you said that “nobody in his right mind would want to be in unity with you” were you implying that because they are in their right minds they will be go with you? Birds of the same feathers…? Again, you’re shamelessly speculating. Not the “they are in their right minds” statement. It’s the implication that you are one of the birds. C’mon.
Go figure.
March 3rd, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Mac, it’s sad but true. The balut vendor is better than GMA.
Anyone who does not lie, cheat, kill and steal is better than GMA. Did your first grade teacher not taught you that?
And what’s more unfortunate is the moronic thinking that seems to pervade the air. Crooked thinking seems to be the rule rather than the exception. You, Tasyo and Allan are living proof of that I supposed.
Now there’s no hope. You disappoint me!
Mac Says:
March 1st, 2008 at 11:17 pm
The balut vendor is better than GMA? Hello?!!
Pogito pare, are you out of your mind?!! To borrow your line, I hope against hope nobody else thinks like you do! Otherwise, heaven help us!
March 3rd, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Well said TASYO. Spoken like a true crook!
Now, some words of wisdom: “Words are like leaves and where they most abound, much fruit of sense beneath is rarely found.”
Now in relation to TASYO’s most recent blogs, it simply means sa haba ng nasulat nya e hungkag at walang katuturan at laman ang mga nasabi nya.
GMA is the source of corruption. You don’t separate the crime from the criminal, you moron.
You also said “spewing… justice and fairness won’t hold us together…” Now why would I or any people in his right mind want to be in unity with you.
Ask ALLAN for his doctor. You might not be cured but he might make it appear so. You belong together, retards!
Tasyo Says:
March 2nd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
To pogito and like-minded individuals: spare me the motherhood statements about justice, fairness and all that crap. Spewing, mouthing them aint going to hold us together. Respecting the rules will.
Tasyo Says:
March 2nd, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Pogito, you are a hopeless case. I am not against your newly found advocacy to fight corruption in government. I share your fervor. I didn’t say that GMA is far-removed from the culture of “permissible zones” that pervades government dealings. But GMA is not the issue. Corruption is.
March 3rd, 2008 at 12:20 am
barok, executive privilege is the prerogative of a president. It is a privilege that the chief executive may invoke to protect the interest of the state in matters that involve its security, among others No less than the constitution has granted it to enable the executive branch to make executive decisions freely without fear of being questioned as to the soundness and wisdom of acts made in the exercise of its function. If it were not so then official paralysis would occur to the detriment of public service because by then the governed will most likely assail executive action at every turn given the diverse opinions the citizenry has on varied issues that affect national life. Imagine the effect of a decision that favors one sector vs the interest of the other and the president is questioned about the wisdom of such action. GMA has exercised that privilege in the senate inquiry of the nbn deal. But the you doubt it her motives for doing so as a shield for official lies. Again, you are speculating. How do you know that she is invoking it to protect state interest against a senate that has run amuck as exemplified by its incompetence to even handle a simple examination of a document that was supposed to contain the initials FG. Senate has clearly exceeded its authority its inquiry already when it delved into a variety of subject matters alien to the purpose for which it was constituted in the first place and then justifies it by knitting inconsequential matters into a seemingly relevant crochet of facts and events, passing judgment without even properly appreciating the evidence according to test of materiality and admissibility. That’s grave abuse of discretion if you ask me barok. Damn it! We have made a mockery of time-honored democratic principles which has divided us again into jedis and darth vaders. So to you see why gma is invoking executive privilege? Truth no matter how you obtain it? Is that it? Do u think truth is served by mob rule? Do u think truth springs forth like a fountain even if we disregard the basic rules of order and fair play? Tell me if you were gma would you abandon the privilege and open your administration to a senate that has jettisoned all signs of law and order? A senate that is acting in excess of its jurisdiction? For truth and justice? If a barangay captain in your town summons a dept secretary because someone accuses him of corruption on the basis of the accuser’s sole testimony and the barangay officials challenge gma to take off the shield of exec privilege in front of flashing cameras would you take it seriously? Or would you just
dismiss it as preposterous? Pray, tell me how is it any different from the senate circus? It is a run away train and you are in for a ride. Aint that spectacularly dumb?
March 2nd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
To pogito and like-minded individuals: spare me the motherhood statements about justice, fairness and all that crap. Spewing, mouthing them aint going to hold us together. Respecting the rules will. Let’s us plug the holes of our flawed system through the legislative process. That’s part of the senate’s job. That’s within their domain. Inquiry in aid of legislation is its tool to hammer out effective laws that will squarely address the ills that plague our society and prepare us for our future as a nation. Let’s not concoct remedies that go against human experience. Read your history books. They are replete with tragedies that sprang forth from man’s
intolerance of human diversity. This gave birth to the democratic principle that sovereignty resides in the people. But because each of us cannot be directly involved in governance we delegated our power to our delegates who are bound to observe the rules of governance dictated by our constitution. Because it’s something collective then we must respect it as sacred . All of us. Its a social contract. If you want to get rid of gma? Observe the social contract and not through other means not agreed upon in the social contract. Corruption? It’s evil. But disintegration of democratic institutions is nothingness. If you continue to defile the sacredness of our social contract then prepare for mass retribution. Majority wins.
March 2nd, 2008 at 8:06 pm
To BAROK:
Sabihin mo ngayon sa lahat kung sinong politiko ang di sinungaling? Kahit sino lagay mo dyan gagawat’ gagawa ng kalokohan yan. Kahit sino! Tandaan mo yun? May marerekumenda ka bang opisyal na katulad ng hinhanap mo, ko at natin? Ayaw pagsalitain si FG? Syempre! Kahit sayo mangyari, pagtatakpan mo pamilya mo, magkahiyaan na. Kaya yung iniisip mo wag masaydo pambata. Hirap sa pinoy, masyadong uto uto. Plibhasa mahilig manood ng Telenovela.
March 2nd, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Pogito, you are a hopeless case. I am not against your newly found advocacy to fight corruption in government. I share your fervor. I didn’t say that GMA is far-removed from the culture of “permissible zones” that pervades government dealings. But GMA is not the issue. Corruption is. We are not fighting GMA we are fighting corruption. Still following me? How do we combat corruption, pogito? Do we fight it by ousting her? By taking to the street and fiercely demanding that she step down? People power? On the basis of what? Unsupported allegations? Is that how we will fight corruption? Think hard man. I don’t believe you are that dumb kabayan. If that’s how we proceed then we will be destroying the very fabrIc of our nationhood. This is bigger than corruption or GMA. Do you burn your house because you want to get rid of rats? Buy a cat!
Let’s analyze together. Stay with me. Let’s say GMA resigns. What next? Noli ascends to the throne because he is the vp? Cmon. Don’t you see that even the slightest chance that power play intervenes to thwart legal succession could plunge us into chaos and kick our collective ass back to the dark ages? A .0001 percent chance is bad enough. Civil war of the Bosnia sort because of hatred? The meltdown of our democratic institutions because we disrespected the fundamental law of the land? Why? Because we wanted to get rid of corruption? Passions inflamed by mere speculations of wrong doing. That’s why there are certain basic rules that we must respect. They protect us against ourselves. They insure that we co-exist harmoniously. Do u have children my friend? Let’s think deeper. Let’s stick to reason. Let us allow our system to work and respect its processes. That’s the only way to go. We have a nation to build. Talk to me.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:13 pm
To Allan of 1-800-IM-A-PSYCHO or 1-800-I-NEED-HELP:
Thomas Paine said it best. “If there will be war, let it be in my days, so that my children may have peace… ” To the likes of YOU he further declared, “The heart that feels not now is dead.”
It appears though that you are not only dead in the heart but dead in the brain - to which you rightly admit by keeping your pscho emergency numbers in handy. Boy your sick, I pity you. I thought you were just stupid, but then you went on to show your crazy as well.
Don’t speak now. Thinking might further aggravate your ills and might cause you to shutdown. Rest now you retard. I do hope you get well!
To Jang-jang:
I thought I kept my writing simple so as not to be misunderstood. My passion was also within reason. Let me explain to you in TAGALOG so you may understand.
Alin sa mga nabanggit ko ang sabi-sabi? Mula mismo sa bibig ng dyablo (GMA) ang pandarayang ginawa nya. “LAPSE OF JUDGEMENT” ang sagot nya sa “HELLO GARCI”. Sa nakakaunawa, ang ibig sabihin nun ay NAWALA SA SARILI. Sa kolokyal na salita, iyon ay pag-amin ng KAWALAN NG BAIT o PAGIGING SIRA ULO! Ayon sa pagkakagamit nya o CONTEXT, ito ay pag-amin ng pandaraya.
Kung pangulo ka at kabi-kabila ang iyong LAPSE of JUDGEMENT, dapat kang palitan kasi ikaw ay MORALLY UNFIT TO LEAD o WALANG KAKAYAHAN na mamuno. SALOT ka rin sa lipunan dahil sa lawak ng iyong nasasakupan.
Sana naman ay naliwanagan ka na sa kapirasong paliwanag na nabanggit ko.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm
I’m really amazed and confused by the people really eager to this resignation call, may I call you guys EXTREMIST?
I mean PGMA’s governance is really one to question and to set a watchful eye on her men in the position, vigilance on the people and accountability should be in the minds of not only in the Senate( it may be noble to blow their whistle on allegations of corruption BUT GOODNESS, WE ALL KNOW OF THEIR POLITICAL INTENTIONS!) but also in the Judicial Courts. The ball must be in these Courts and its up to the people to discern and be vigil to the Court’s decisions.
Media, though they are the barkers of whats happening but the people must learn to differentiate their news that is TRUE and those that are SENSATIONALIZED, meaning just to the aid & progress of their business, like what ABS-CBN is doing in the current issues.
March 1st, 2008 at 11:17 pm
The balut vendor is better than GMA? Hello?!!
Pogito pare, are you out of your mind?!! To borrow your line, I hope against hope nobody else thinks like you do! Otherwise, heaven help us!
February 29th, 2008 at 1:44 am
Jang Jang your right its just another corrupt person to another. All trying to outwit, black mail and back stab one another, all of this trouble for earthy things they cant take to their graves. Dont forget the ambitious senators, some are still so young and yet already so evil.. And the lady senator, at her old age still so devious..P200M/year not enough?? And the ex-milatry senators..havent you wonder why only the privates and NCO are the one getting shot in Mindanao…hmm…I wonder where theyre hiding during firefights…Bad weeds are hard to kill…
BTW, dont mind the handsome guy..somebody told me he is a escapee from Mandaluyong Psyco Ward 1. I would have turned him in, but I was told they let him out cause he eats a lot. Maybe thats why the sourgraping, not enough free food on the table…tell him to call these numbers 1-800-IM-A-PSYCHO or 1-800-I-NEED-HELP….cheers…
February 29th, 2008 at 1:14 am
Alvina,
Ewan ko kung dapat ba kitang tawagin na bingi, bulag o t*nga. Eh maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw na sinungaling yang si GMA.
Nagbabasa ka ba ng editoryal ng Inquirer? Nakinig ka ba sa pangulo sa DZRH? Malamang hindi o talagang saksakan ka na talaga ng ewan.
Simple lang naman ang kailangan namin malaman eh, bakit ayaw nyang pagsalitain si Neri? Bakit meron EO464, meron bang mga sikreto na hindi dapat malaman ng taong bayan? Bakit pabago-bago sila ng pahayag…ano ba talaga ang totoo? Sino ba ang kanyang pinoprotektahan, si FG ba?
Wala namang isyu dito kung magsasabi lang naman ng katotohanan…tamaan ang dapat tamaan, kasuhan ang dapat kasuhan, ikulong ang mapapatunayan, ang problema mula pangulo, sikretaryo, heneral mga sinungaling. Iyan ba ay tamang ehemplo sa ating mamamayan at kabataan?
Alalahanin natin na ang sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw.
February 28th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Wow! with respect to Pogito, its really hatred in you heart to PGMA, and you dont know the lady PERSONALLY, except of what you read & heard in the sensationalized news. Close ba kayo ni PGMA since way back na sobrang galit mo na sa kanya ngayon?
PGMA doesnt have the monopoly of cheat and lies in this world…….remember Erap saying “Walang Kaibigan, Walang Kamag-anak” rhetorics? What happened? Even his mistresses is bathing in the govt fund!
Cory, most of her kamag-anak in the govt and also stealing to enrich themselves and what about the Hacienda?
Maybe all of us should try to look at ourselves in the mirror, then we can stone PGMA if were free from dirt ourselves.
February 28th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Lawyers Groups Joins Calls for Arroyo’s Resignation….
This is the subject of an article I just read from this paper awhile ago. Below are excerpts of it.
“”We condemn the executive department’s use of the legal processes and institutions to suppress the truth and shield corrupt public officials,” said Bautista.
Bautista said that should Arroyo resign, the most ideal successor would be the Vice President, Noli de Castro in this case.
When asked however if De Castro was acceptable, Bautista said it was not about the person but the office.”
Though I am not sure if Atty. Bautista was just misquoted, I am very saddened if he was not. I cannot believe that a head of IBP and a lawyer himself can issue such a stupid and contradictory comment. Is it because of pressure or what? Imagine they are condemning the executive branch of our government. But when asked if Noli de Castro is acceptable, he replied its not about the person but the office. Noli is part or member of the executive branch. Its the executive branch they are condemning thus, all managers or staffs in that branch now are unacceptable. Obviously, they also don’t like Noli. If they don’t like Noli then they should have other plans after PGMA will step down. May we know that plan? And, if IBP is not running after a person, why bother to shout at PGMA to resign? Why are they running after her? They should be running after systems and policies to be implemented to rid of corruption.
February 28th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
What can I say? Some people could be fooled all of the time. Look no further ALLAN and TASYO. I feel only pity for you guys, you are beyond help.
John, you are right. I am so full of hatred. I could not help but be angry that an EVIL DWARF rules our god forsaken land. I am inflamed that the Filipinos are allowing a liar and a cheat to led us all into hell. I have all this angst within me that could not be quenched until the evil that is ARROYO is purged from this land I call my home.
GMA is a CANCER that eats us all. Let’s cut her once and for all.
I salute you BAROK for having seen the light. You have a far better name than the TASYO and ALLAN I’m seeing in this blogs!!! GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY, The Philippines needs more of you and less of TASYO!
February 28th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Those with analytical mind knows that this Senate investigation was done not because the Senators love our country nor they hate corruption and want to ferret out the truth but mainly due to their 2010 ambitions. They know that by conducting series of investigations it will give them tremendous media mileage and thus they could be easily remembered by the electorates come election day. I am greatly disgusted with this endless political bickerings and divisiveness. I urged the senators to unite with the President in fighting poverty and in giving quality education to all Filipinos.
February 28th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Barok, ano ang basehan mo na naloko ka (na naman)? Kinuwentuhan ka ba ni Lozada? Ni De Venecia?
These people find you WEAK. Ikaw ang klase ng tao na madaling maniwala sa sabi-sabi (walang bait sa sarili). Chismoso ka ba?
Poor guy. tsk..tsk..
February 28th, 2008 at 5:31 am
Kala ko noon GMA was the lesser Evil among Evils kaya syempre pinoy pinatawad ko sya sa kanyang madamdaming sori sa “Hello Garci”.
Nagalit nga ako kay Dinky Soliman at Enteng Roman dahil roon. Pati si Trillanes muntik ko nang ipakulam sa galit. Iyon ay sa akala ko si GMA ay magbabago dahil meron naman syang nagawang mabuti sa bayan. Ikanga eh let’s give her one more chance…
Aba eh biruin mo at nabilog nya ang ulo ko (baka kayo rin?). Ngayon ko lang napag isip-isip na ang sinungaling pag pinagbigyan natin ay mas lalong magsisinungaling. Hindi na magandang ehemplo ito sa gobyerno. Ayoko sanang maniwalang pag pandak ay sinungaling pero meron palang buhay na katunayan.
Sa ating mga kababayan na ayaw pa rin manindigan, hala pabilog pa kayo ng husto kay Gloria.
Ako, ayoko nang magtanga-tangahan, kaya kayong mga patuloy sa pagpuri kay GMA, siguro naman alam nyo na kung ano kayo.
Peace!
February 28th, 2008 at 4:36 am
MC_90 has a valid point. Its a catch 21, damned if you do, damned if you dont
Its hard to choose between two evils. (Someone though has no problem chosing)
The best way out of it..IGNORE it..Dont participate and dont be a part of it…Dont let them dictate your life..
Life is short ..spend and enjoy it with your love ones..
February 28th, 2008 at 12:27 am
Pogito, you’re full of hatred.
Why don’t you wait for the conclusion of the investigations? If you’re impatient, that is your problem. Patience is virtue and it seems you don’t have it.
Don’t waste your time and energy persuading people to take your side. You are acting based on your perception only. While others prefer to act based on facts.
February 27th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
well pogito…you talk about truth, injustice, and the Filipino like you have something that’s gray right between your ears. That’s the problem with your kind man. You are self-righteous and loudly ignorant. You would have had a flourishing career had you been lucky enough to have been born during the spanish inquisition. You see we have these moronic thoughts about preserving the status quo. But that’s the beauty about democracy man. A moron has the right to be a moron and my right to be a moron is guaranteed. A moron has his own concept of truth just like you non-morons have your own idea of what truth tastes like. But how can you say that your idea of truth is better than a moron’s. There’s the rub. Because if you impose your truth and ram it down my throat then it’s your truth that’s true. Isnt it a case of disrespect for my own version of the truth?how dare you? That’s why we are guided by certain rules that insulate our individual rights from being disenfranchised by geniuses like you. When you advocate the ouster of gma and proudly proclaim it as heroic and patriotic it’s your truth vs a moron’s truth. That’s why we have a systematic way of removing our leaders. We shouldn’t resort to other other means because we must respect the rights of others who profess different views. We all should respect that otherwise we would want to raise hell too if you insist on imposing your truth on morons like us. Where does it leave is? Chaos, death and uncertainty. We should be governed by a some rule of conduct that will insure harmony amidst diversity. That’s our social contract and you must respect that. if you must disagree do it in a way that will preserve harmony. In that way we will strengthen our social contract and guarantee that morons like me will continue to enjoy self-determination free from the influence of those who claim to know better. Like you and your kind.
February 27th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Once again Jamby Madrigal lied before her peers and the public watching the moro-moro in the senate. She showed the tampered initials of “FG” in the marginal notes of the NEDA letter to cast further innuendo and gossips in the ongoing investigation of NBN. Ever since the start of the investigation and after so many witnesses, I find nothing substantial in all their so-called testimonial evidence that will point to a graft-ridden contract that is NBN. All I find are the senators’ grandstanding, lies and politicking. I am wondering why God has let the Philippine senate be filled with liars and ambitious people.
February 27th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Cory Aquino is a lady begging for suppport nowadays, I pity the woman!
I just hope that she’s “really” for the truth and not just in an unholy alliance with a broadcasting media and some opposition groups having their own interests worth dying for by these people!
February 27th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Jun “Iyakin” Lozada is not telling the truth…before his appearance to the Senate he was already seen shoulder to shoulder with Lacson. A briefing session before the bruhaha hearing? hahahaha
I agree with Bong…kung sino pa ang mga hindi nagbabayad ng buwanang buwis ay siyang mga pasakit at pasaway sa lipunan. Kami dapat ang may karapatan magmartsa at magWELGA but we chose to PEACE and PROGRESS over this chaos that shaken our future and the moving condition of our economy. Bakit monthly ba kayong kinakaltasan para sa taxes? di ba wala! Puro lang kayo martsa lalo na yang mga militanteng mga pasaway! Karamihan sa mga nakikisali kuno sa rally ay mga bayaran…ano kaya kung magbayad kayo ng 10% sa mga rally fee niyo ha?
Saan ba kayo nakakita ng witness kuno na nanginginig at mahilig magtago sa salawal ng mga La Salle Brothers aber?
Super iyakin at crying baby pa cute sa TV.
Any comment and statement that comes from the power grabber opposition will be disregarded. SAWA na kami sa inyo wala na kayong ginawa kundi lalong pahirapan ang mga taong bayan sa ginagawa niyo. Sariling interes lang ang mga agenda niyo ! Magrtabaho nga kayo dahil billions ang binabayad namin sa inyo buwan buwan ano! Gumawa kayo ng mga batas at magtrabaho nga sa ganon babango pa ang pangalan niyo at baka maging Presidente pa kayo. Hirap sa inyo gustong gusto niyong lumabas sa TV…gumawa na lang kaya kayo ng teleserye at panoorin niyo mga sarili niyo.
The ZTE is just a mere hearsay…..and now you chose to drag it in the Senate coz its Teleserye time for you….Kasuka na kayo!
WE WILL NEVER SUPPORT YOUR BAD MOTIVES…. Hala mag rally kayo wag niyo kalimutan mag Sunblock ha baka ma skin cancer pa kayo……
February 27th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
if our senate investigation would only provide a platform that will showcase how irresponsible some of our senators could be (re: FGI/IPS tampering), then i guess there’s no need to drag the issue so long. it seem the senators figured out already (except mar roxas) where the fault in our law lies. pen down the resolution and let’s all move forward already.
there must be one heck of a job for the legislators left unfinished only the be embroiled on dirty politics of ping and jamby.
February 27th, 2008 at 5:37 am
With all the things that are going on, we have asked difficult questions. Why is this happening to us? Who are responsible for all these and where do they come from? The brutal answer is, we are no different from any of them. It is a mistake to think that those in government must have come from a different background than we did. They went to the same school, grew up from the same environment and lived from the same culture. They are our neighbors, our friends, or our relatives. They are our people. And no, they were not raised by monsters as may of us think. We probably share the same church with them, ate the same food and grew up from the same neighborhood.
People are quick to point fingers and detach themselves from the parties involved. The reality is, no matter who runs the government, if we employ the same principle, nothing would change. Corruption would remain unless we make a conscious choice not to be a part of it.
Nobody is without sin, and that the chain of corruption can be broken if there is a single link that refuses to cooperate. No one person is responsible for all these. This is not just the fault of the president or the spouse. This is not solely the greed of the ex-commissioner. Without the support of other government officials, the military and the media, no corruption will ever take place unnoticed. This is the responsibility of the whole nation. Things will not happen without the support of the foot soldier willing to kidnap anyone upon orders. This will not occur if the airport official would object and cry foul when asked by the cabinet member to cooperate with their plan. It will not take place if there are no willing accomplishes. If the judiciary branch would not turn their blind eyes to rampant irregularities and punish the guilty ones, it would never grow.
People power and regime change is not the only solution to all these problems. We have removed Estrada from office but the replacement is even worse. Chances are, the worst is yet to come. Unless we, as a nation will do something about it. This is the time for radical change. We need a genuine moral revolution. Let us demand with a loud voice that the president steps down and everyone responsible is punished. Let us express with louder voice that the next administration would serve the people faithfully and honestly. We have been a third world country for a long time. Long enough to realize that it is time for a change. The change that comes from within.
Everyone plays an important role in this. Let’s start with the smallest unit of our institution, the family. Parents should uphold the value and importance of honesty. We have to teach our children that the truth can never be altered, manipulated and distorted to suit our needs. The truth can bring us to the promise land.
The school should be strict in punishing cheaters. No cheating in school tests. For those caught cheating, there should be a humiliating punishment specially the repeat offenders. Better fail the test than to be dishonest.
The burden of uplifting the nation rests not on government shoulders alone but on peoples’ hands as well. Mabuhay ang mga tunay na Pilipinong nagmamahal sa Bayan!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
A respected senator is subservient to the whims of his colleaques in the opposition. I don’t see him now making good motion. Why would you call a person from an embassy to attend the senate hearing while, in fact, these people have diplomatic immunity? He has lost his common sense now. I respect him a lot as I did not hear any contoversy against him, but I think his heyday is gone that he should retire now as he is becoming just an observer. Senator Tolentino would have better mind if he were still here.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Kung sino pa ang mga hindi nagbabayad ng mga tax eh sila pa ang mga magugulo at mai-ingay! sinisira ang takbo ng ekonomiya!!!
1. Mga studyante na sumasali sa rally- ang pera ay galing sa mga nanay at tatay nila na naghihirap sa pagtratrabaho araw-araw.
2. Pari at Madre- sa mga donation
3. Mga tambay o walang trabaho na mahilig magrally kaya araw-araw nasa kalye
4. Mga militanteng grupo- ewan ko kung saan nila kinukuha ang mga pondo nila..puro hingi kaya? Nakakahiya na yan!!!
Lahat calling for the truth! ewan!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I feel sorry for Cory Aquino and some of the bishops and priests. They likened Jun Lozada with Ninoy and even Jesus Christ. I realized now that bishops and priests tell lies sometimes if it will serve their ends.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
I don’t think Jun Lozada is telling the whole truth. My read on the way he is giving his testimony complete with crying, deep inhaling and exhaling, etc. is overly dramatic. I think he is trying hard to get sympathy from the people so that that the people will swallow everything he says, hook, line and sinker. If he is telling the complete truth, he should tell it straight. I was turned-off watching him during the senate hearing. He looked pathetic. While there may be some semblance of truth to what he said, I feel that he was fudging some.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
TO MC_90:
The kind of thinking that you have is the reason why we are not progressing. Think outside the box, man. Or, just think!
Don’t limit your choices to the ESTRADAS, the De VENECIAS, the ARROYO’s or all the other leeches of politicians we currently have.
80Million Filipinos and you say GMA is the only one qualified to be the President. She’s a crook and a liar - and the worst kind - for crying out loud!
The balut vendor is better than her!
I hope against hope that nobody else thinks like you do. Otherwise heaven help us!
MC_90 Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Puro RESIGN….Eh sino ipapalit???? I hate this current administration as much as the oppositions do…pero sino ang ipapalit????
February 26th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I just read awhile ago an article from this same newspaper about Sen. Enrile offering to pen a legislation to be able to prevent corruption based on the facts they gathered from the NBN hearings. This is a good move from the “seasoned” senator. But, Sen. Mar Roxas opposed the move and claimed they still lack more information to be able to craft a new legislation to curve corruption. Another b-llsh-t! Pakapalan na talaga ng MUKHA ang mga legislators natin. To start with, as I cited on my previous post, they (our elected legislators) don’t need the NBN scandal to formulate policies or laws to prevent corruption in government. They can do it if they really want to. The problem is, most of them do not want to as they are simply afraid to loose their opportunity to steal once their time comes! Unless Sen. Roxas really doesn’t know what’s happening around him or his ultimate intention is to pull down PGMA, I cannot believe him refusing Sen. Enrile’s offer. Their real colors are not only showing up but are now starting to fade away!
February 26th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
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mang godo Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 1:35 am
I don’t understand our distinguished senators still doing the investigation on the NBN deal.
I don’t understand why the media is still feasting on the deal.
Ano pa kaya ang ipinagpuputok ng botse ng atin mga kababayan.
The President has cancelled the contract.
The Supreme Court has nullified the contract.
The ZTE voided the contract.
Were there gainers and losers on the contract?
None. So what is the big deal?
The purpose of the investigation then is to malign the president, bismirch her reputation and to inculcate in the mind of the people that the president is corrupt.
The media is having a heyday because, scandal to the highest level means more news, more stories and more papers.
Quo vadis, pinoy. nakakaloko ang mga balita.
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she cancel the contract because she got catch stealing!
February 26th, 2008 at 1:35 am
I don’t understand our distinguished senators still doing the investigation on the NBN deal.
I don’t understand why the media is still feasting on the deal.
Ano pa kaya ang ipinagpuputok ng botse ng atin mga kababayan.
The President has cancelled the contract.
The Supreme Court has nullified the contract.
The ZTE voided the contract.
Were there gainers and losers on the contract?
None. So what is the big deal?
The purpose of the investigation then is to malign the president, bismirch her reputation and to inculcate in the mind of the people that the president is corrupt.
The media is having a heyday because, scandal to the highest level means more news, more stories and more papers.
Quo vadis, pinoy. nakakaloko ang mga balita.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
The truth could not be silence forever. Injustice and oppression could not put the Filipino people down forever.
It is a known fact that the tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny. Must the Filipinos suffer for all eternity? Will Juan dela Cruz shrug it off as always and say “move on”.
I would say NO! And so would all Filipinos in their right mind!
“There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come,” Victor Hugo said and rightly so. EDSA and PEOPLE POWER are relevant now more than ever.
Let us crushed the evil that is GMA! The time is now. We owe it not just to ourselves but to our children!
(Move aside TASYO and ALLAN or be crushed by the stampede of discontent. Keep your moronic thoughts to yourselves. They won’t be of help. Stupidity won’t save the likes of you - disgusting!)
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Allan Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Well pogito, enough is said, divided we are, the devil won… If Gloria stepdown (by will or by force) and the self proclaimed guardian of Philippine democracy steps in
Tasyo Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am
pogito, i thought you were only a misguided fellow. But far more worse you’re almost empty up your shoulders. Dumb as a door knob. Won’t be arguing with u
you no more. Ever. Let’s move on, people!
February 25th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Puro RESIGN….Eh sino ipapalit???? I hate this current administration as much as the oppositions do…pero sino ang ipapalit????
Si Erap??? Nah…tama na ang isang estrada na naging presidente…
Si Jinggoy??? nah…not even worth to talk about that guy…
Si Binay??? gaya nga ng totoong pangalan ni binay…Jesus Joseph and Mary (jejomar)!!!!! wag po!!!!! maawa kayo sa mga pilipino
At kasama na yung si villar, si roxas at kung sino pa man jan na guto maging presidente…
isa lang ang sigurado…kurakot pa din ang gobyerno kahit sino nakaupo jan…
ah si Kabayan VP pala..sabi nila hindi daw kurakot…ang masasabi ko ay malaking BWAHAHA!!
Wala ng mapili sa bansa natin…PATI MGA PARI AT OBISPO…kala mo naman ang lilinis nila…Jesus Joseph and Mary…patawarin mo sila!!!!!
February 25th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
jang jang
TEKA muna iisa ang taktika ng mga tao na to at very effective talaga mag-iingaysa pamamagitan ng paglulubid ng buhangin tulad ng ginawa ni Sen Peter Cayetano, napaka-ingay ng amerikano na ito at ng wala naman napatunayan sa mga alegasyon ngayon naluklok tahimik na ata. huh! at eto naman ang isa pang gustong mag -ingay si Mar Roxas nagsisimula ng umatake mula sa mahabang pananahimik… at si Villar naku poh… san naman kaya kakampi yan kung bigla bumaba si Gloria sa pwesto… eh ambisyoso rin yan kaya maingay. Tama na sa pag convert ng sakahan bilang subdivision. mahabang panahon ng inutil ang institusyon ng mga MAMBUBUTAS. hula ko magiging senador si De Venecia… sobrang linis ng manong na ito. walng ninakaw kaya pala may sariling malaking kumpanya ang anak na nabigo makakulimbast sa ZTE-NBN kaya umiiyak.
NAPAKA effective na bugbugin si Gloria para manalo sa election sa tulong ng mahuhusay na PR man o spin doctor at tiwaling Media. Ang instiusyong nangangamoy sa kabulukan at epektibong gumagamit ng sensationalism para maakit ang gutom na maralita, tumaas ang rating at mabili ang komersyalisadong pahayagan.
Sa mga gustong lumabas ng katotohanan. Eto ANG TOTOO matagal na tayong inuuto ng mga magkakasabwat na ito mula pa nuong 1986 sa paglalaro nila ng MORO-MORO. Eh bakit sila magkakaisa para ano? umangat kabuhayan ng maralita? gumanda ang sistema ng edukasyon at matuto tao? magkaroon ng hustong pagkain sa hapag at makuntento mga pilipino? hinde hindi nila gagawin dahil ang taong busog at nabubuhay ng maayos ay di basta basta maakit sumama sa moro-moro at pumunta ng lansangan para mag-painit at magsisigaw hangang maubusan ng hininga dahil sa konteng barya. Mahirap udyukan ang nabubuhay ng maayos sapagkat natuto na gumamit ng isip.
Mas mabuti para sa *&^%$#@ ito na tayoy ganito. Mas madaling magamit para sa kanilang pansariling pakay. Pag wala na si Gloria eh sino naman kaya gagawan nila ng katarantaduhan. Ang mga nangayayari ay isang malaking disenyo ng publisidad para mapansin, makakuha ng simpatiya at maluklok sa pwesto kung hindi man ay mang agaw ng pwesto.
Sabi ng iba si RAMOS na dating Heneral ay powerful pa. Eh papaano na ang mga dating Heneral na nakpwesto pababayaan ba nila mawala ang mga pagkakataon na ito dahil kay Ramos at alam namn na marami pang naka line up na gusto ring kumita pagkatapos ni Gloria. Ei papano na hirap ni MIranda at ang matagal ng laging nag aalburoto na si Danilo Lim na pinag aral sa Amerika at PMA. Pati si Quierubin… Iisa lang ang serenata na gustong awitin ng mga ito ANG KAMI NAMAN….
Kaya mga kababayan ko magka-isa tayo laban sa mga tiwaling ito ma oposisyon o administrasyon. Tigilan na ang pagpapagamit sa mga *&^%$#@ ito.
Kung kinakailangan sama sama tayong manalangin sapagkat nasa Dyos ang pag asa at wala sa bulaang gabay na mga obispo na pinsasabugan ng water canon sa pag sama sa rally.
Magkano kaya binabayad na indulgencia ng mga ito sa tatlong itlog na obispo na si CRUZ, LABAYEN AT INUEGUEZ. nakikita ko mga Obispo nakasakay sa magagarang sasakyan. may mga sariling driver at sarap yata ng mga kinakain nito sa kumbento.
February 25th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
If Gloria will resign, lets see who will be in the picture:
Noli de Castro, because he’s the constitutional succesor.
1. ABS-CBN will stop being biased because a colleague is already in the position, All praises to Noli!
2. No guarantee of overhauling the bureaucrats in the Govt coz Noli is an ally of Gloria.
3. Rallies will not stop, Dami din ayaw kay Noli like MBC, Communist militant group, Black & White, kaaway na ngayon sila ng ABS-CBN!
MAGULO PA DIN IN SHORT!
SNAP ELECTION:
1. SINO NAMAN ANG KAKANDIDATO NA WALANG BAHID NG POLITIKA???
a. Lacson
b. Cayetano
c. Erap
d. Villar
e. Nograles
f. de Venecia
g. Binay
h. Trillanes
i. Joma Sison ( para matigil na yung mga militante)
Ok…….pili na po tayo at lahat naman ng mga ito eh PARA SA BAYAN AT KATOTOHANAN ang iniisip.
February 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am
pogito, i thought you were only a misguided fellow. But far more worse you’re almost empty up your shoulders. Dumb as a door knob. Won’t be arguing with u
you no more. Ever. Let’s move on, people!
February 25th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Well pogito, enough is said, divided we are, the devil won… If Gloria stepdown (by will or by force) and the self proclaimed guardian of Philippine democracy steps in..in 1-2 years well read each others blog again, in here, same issue, maybe worse, but definitely another corrupt president…it will never stop..cause people like you make it happen…hope you still have a high paying job then, otherwise you will be in the payroll of the rally organizers, worse maybe by then the pay is already taxable and run by union leaders..
Gloria is a KARMA of people like you, maybe your one of those chanting in EDSAI and II and now so disgusted because you got duped. Dont worry their will be a next time..definitely you’ll be duped again..If the likes of Lozada can duped you..everybody else surely can………(i put extra points, so that you wont miss it) BTW…give my regards to Quasimodo..i might not be a fan of him, but definitely someone is still living in a fairy tale world..cheers
February 25th, 2008 at 8:20 am
To Post 107:
Yes we need to have more solid evidence and witnesses but at the same time we should continue to seek for the truth.
We must show to our current leaders that we do not condone corruption, keeping silent just because we have no solid evidence is like giving excuse to do more. When there is smoke there is fire…we know by heart that there is corruption but unfortunately we are running out of a few good men.
To all my Kababayans, let’s keep the drum beating until the walls of evil crumbles.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
panahon na para ilabas ang tutoo ang katotohanan ang magpapalaya sa mamayan.@ dapat lang tapyasin ang masasamang puno para hindi mamunga ng mga tiwali sa pamahalaan .may mga sa sakit ang mga nanunungkulan sa pamahalaan sakit na minana pa sa mga magulang nilang magnanakaw ,kailangan tapyasin siya.para hindi na mamungga ng masasama.
February 24th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
it is us united that we can change this govt or let ourselves just lie back and hope somebody brave come over and do it for us. Many of us have lost hope and tell themselves its all the same and have
have grown tired to stand up and fight. our mentality is purely survival. many sole purpose in life is to work hard and secure our own future and forget about our country. we are not telling you to stop securing your famliy future but we are asking you to lend a hand united for change. even if it takes a lot changes of govt as long as in the end we can get one that is right for us. we are a nation that is becoming obsessed with our own self preservation and survival and never flinched to what is happening to our neighbors and friends. we may have the lifestyle and secure the future of our children. but can we really say to ourselves that we spend our lives with meaning and as a human being?.
many good people was lost in the marcos regime, good people who really if alive will make real difference to this country. Many fear of the commnunist on those days but we had proven that after the EDSA revolt. it didnt happen and for 2 decades we didnt see it happen and like smoke faded among us. we are afraid that in this fight we cant recover but can we stomach what we can see everyday.we become unfeeling and numb like zombies looking for freh meat. unaware and never care about anything just the urge to seek fresh human meat. this is what our society is becoming and you can see it everyday unless you already a zombie. thier is a saying rise to the occasion.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Allan, you do have a point after all. My apologies to Quasimodo for having him compared to you. Quasimodo is decent, you’re not! You really are pathetic!
Jojo, we’ll move on alright. After GMA gets what she deserves. People should be held accountable for their actions. What’s to stop your kids from cheating and lying when the squatter in malacanang blatantly shows she’s above us all. I mean, you don’t give a vermin a pat on the shoulder and say “move on”. That’s so lame of you!
Katrina, read more and say less!
Tasyo, don’t be like a clown. You’ll end up knowing the joke’s on you!
Enough said. I quote GLORIA LAVANDERA who captured the essence of what this is really all about: “The bogus administration of Gloria Arroyo is corrupt to the bones. Its time to unite and kick her ass out…!”
Amen to that Gloria!!! And when the evil that is Arroyo is purged, the Filipino could finally rise out of the rubble.
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Allan Says:
February 21st, 2008 at 8:04 pm
What makes you think Pogito that your earning higher than I am? You just have no idea……
You want to know the truth ……You feel pity for this greedy man because his life is in danger? ha ha ha lucky him…
You called me quassimodo? Is that the face you see in your mirror every morningBTW … I have a point, actually lots of them… cant you see it?……… ha ha ha ha
Jojo Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:16 am
let’s condemn the senate for grandstanding and dragging this issue. after all, its a bigger crime compared to stealing billions of people’s money.
let’s move on. I’m sure if we leave the issue behind, the government will suddenly grow a conscience and do good like the ‘hello Garci” scandal. diba nagbago na sila??
1. Katrina Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:38 am
Ibig mobang sabihin Pogolito na dahil may high paying job ka sa abroad ay mas tama ka kaysa sa mga iba na nagbibigay ng taliwas na pamanaw sa iyo.
Tasyo Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:58 am
pogito, you do have a point man. But it’s a point that counts only if we want to wander aimlessly through a haze of mindless arguments. The issue is not about joker arroyo badgering the saintly lozada….
Remember ignorance is a widely shared commodity. If rather be a clown than be comfortably ignorant.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:41 am
The only thing I can say to our fellow filipinos is that the CHANGE or REFORM that almost all of our people are keep on clamoring, should begin from us individually and as a people.
Even If we replaced GMA with hundreds of successors, even If thousands of Jun Lozadas will come out, even If we change our system of government 10 times, we will remain the same as underdeveloped country squabbling unless the real change should start from each Filipinos.
Model ourselves with the hardworking Chinese, Japanese and Singaporeans on how they loved their country, then maybe we will be better off..
Are Filipinos not tired of going to rallies? are we not tired of overthrowing a corrupt president? why we dont realised that the problem is in our values, pag sasamantala, pag sisiraan, kawalan ng disiplina at mapang abuso, at tamad .Bakit di natin unahin mawala lahat ito? We had replaced Marcos and Estrada because of corruption and installed Aquino, Ramos and Arroyo as leader, but for the last 20 years, WHY WE ARE STILL THE SAME?
February 24th, 2008 at 8:33 am
1. TAMA NA SOBRA NA ANG MGA PLASTIKAN! Let’s focus on real reforms. Let’s amend our Constitution, finalize the Cheap Medicine’s Bill, implement the National ID System, formulate laws/guidelines to ensure we have good and competent candidates running for government posts, we will have fair and clean elections, elected government officials are compensated properly in legal manner and most importantly, we will have world-class government services and infrastructures and make our nation GREAT!
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Ang real reform that will work is out of the reach of the Filipinos. The real reform is not in changing the constitution. The real reform is changing the core pagkatao of the people. Accept it or not, we are a nation infested with corrupt citizens whose only motive is to steal as much as they can from others….maski na huwag na nating pag-usapan ang pamahalaan. God has failed miserably in this land of the thieves and the liars, and the cheats. The basic aim of the people is to eat on time. PERIOD. It is sickening to read the reasons of some who are calling for Moral Renewal just because his son did not get the bid and went to Gloria’s cronies. And he is willing to tell the truth ON CONDITION!!! ….. all powerful politicians have their own cadres of cronies, salivating behind them, pushing them, urging them, fighting for them, writing for them, and delivering speeches in perfuct English grammar. The only honest Pinoys are in the hinterlands who are still untainted by the greed that has taken over the nation’s politics and the ambition of the educated masses.
So what’s the solution? Iraq has reached that point of no return when they condoned a killer amongst them to be their leader…Saddam Hussein. The ones who could get away had left the country. The ones who remained are victims of their own ignorance, apathy, and indifference to the call of justice, truth, and the rule of law, if ever they had learned what it means. So, what has become of them? Some other country’s young idealist men, the American soldiers, are dying for them, while many of the Iraqis are dying without a fight. That’s the scenario the current situation in the Philippines is heading. If God ever comes down to intervene, it would be in the form of a great disaster, greater than what the Iraqis are now experiencing…and that would not be a solution. The solution is out of the reach of Filipinos who could have make the difference if they have the will to change.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:24 am
re-Post 103
thank-you po and its nice…kaya lang e hayaan nyo rin ang aking long discorse,at hope ok lang ang pagsulat ko,sabi e maganda sana ang sa lengwahe natin,para hindi mawala ang diwa sa diskurso,oo nga naman,baka problema talaga e,hindi magka-intindihan…so eto po mahaba rin,ha,ha pero enjoy at para sa ating bayan din.
pero sino po at saan dapat magsimula?,the people are really watching our leaders (EKA nga e follow the leader,e kung me mga Question???, and they are watching,proof of that is we can see now that the people are really watching,reading,listening and praying and that is beacuse we have some guys who came forward to say something they know and whatever moved they can no longer take it,e of course nga naman ,the so many questionable projects na billions of pesos are involved e seems just to be just going to the drain when a so many do not even have a meal for the day,’maybe we are not believing if they are genuine,and that is the reason why the people are still waiting,and of course waiting and want to know the truth about the expose’ and that is why the Senate is trying to do that and at least we can see how the people still believe in the Senate,trying to see if it’s all true,and if we are already giving our own final conclusion e that’s a our own problem,but some are waiting and i think they are many, and it’s good that we all can or at least are here watching.And,the people i believe still have a strong belief in the Senate,look how we are all watching and weighing how the proceedings are going.
Malaki po ang problema talaga o gawain and we are really a part of it as Filipinos.
So what are we doing,marami na rin po…are we joining the calls,are we ready and willing to share our 3T’s-time,talent and treasure,maybe we are,but look maybe it’s not enough,and maybe we have to give more.O kung we are already e nanghihina tayo rin,lalo na’t personal na tayong maaapektuhan.Ganyan din ako kung minsan at ang lakas nga e sa tamang bilin ng isa kong elder at kaibigan ’stay grounded’,saan? sa dasal at mga sakramento at sa community mo,for they will be our support,kayo o tayo baga e me community o grupo na maayos at tunay ang gawain tungo sa sariling pag-unlad upang makapunta sa mas malawak pang gawain??? Handa ka bagan sumunod o tumugon sa tawag?
Those in the positions now need us too,they need help because sabi nga marami ang aanihin,e kokonti lang ang manggagawa.’At talagang nakapanghihina,when they see na,sila lang naman ang really working and feel that it seems i’m all alone here e…,’yes me sweldo sila and that’s their work,e sa dami nga po at sa lakas din ng mga pwersang dapat harapin e kailangan nila ang suporta,to fight especially the temptations.And some or a lot of them e part also of our Parishes,our churches,and they are with us too,praying and are with us in our fight for improvements.(and napaka-hirap and a long process when you are with situations like those not to mention the relationships pa with them.)
one story,after Cory-Marcos snap election.
so change of leadership-from local up to national,some stayed a lot were changed,those replaced started too to protest,organizing their people to ask for the the appointed new leaders to get out,…then the clamor for election,the new gov gave in,what happened,the new or the appointed incumbents were not elected by the people,the changes they did,some of them at least to what they do not like and believed were not implemented or changed to the old one
A lot too,those who were from the old regime do not want change.But the new government prevail,as they see some fresh and genuine people and the change from the old ones,especially ‘democracy’.
Yes it was Edsa 1 or People Power and it’s true and a lot believed and joined in it.Why not? when people saw personally the cheating in the snap elections,the manipulations.But the people who helped and tried their best who answered the call to do something,there at Edsa and in their localities watching the voting and the counting moved by ‘the spirit of EDSA 1′,were able to do it.We did it,we are all part of it.But…i’m now sure that that is one of our weaknesses,we didn’t finished the job,we allowed ourselves to be on the sideline and let those in the positons continue it,not realizing the very or the real thing of the work we started just begun.And we did not watched and guarded the process dilligently,leaving them to some new leaders we thought shared our own dreams,but a lot of them were not and a lot of the old ones were still there,especially ang burukrasya,and of course a lot of work in trying to see and show and lead them to the change the people want,or to at least do something or start the change.
mag ‘PPCRV kayo,o sumali sa mga usapan,o sumali o manood ng mga rally at makinig sa mga sinasabi ng mga nag-uusap,’magdasal atyo at hilingin natin na maging tutuo tayo at tapat sa sarili upang makita natin na ang lahat ng ito’y para sa tunay na hinahangad natin,at kung me nakikita kang mali,isigaw at ilutang mo,o sabihin mo rito sa magandang paraang ito na dapat nga lamang na gamitin natin sa maayos na mga paglalahad.
Mahaba pa ang lakbayin at ang lahat ng ito’y bunga na ng EDSA 1 sa maniwala kayo at hindi,at kung tayo e bibitaw at hindi nakikinig at gumagawa kahit sa ating sarili e,yan ang problema.’Sariling kaayusan e matagal na processo,kaya dapat e simulan na,at maaaring hindi na natin makita o maranasan,ang mahalaga ay gumawa tayo,nag-AMBAG tayo,sa pag-AHUN natin,kahit hindi engrande,kahit hindi pa bahay at kotse sa bawat pamilya,’kapayapaan at pagkain 3 beses at pag-aaral ng mga anak’ e ok na muna,saka na ang bakasyon sa Boracay o Hongkong, at ok rin na maka-kandidato rin kahit sa Baranggay muna,o maka-sali sa pagbabantay ng boto,muna e magandang simula upang lumago at makita ang mga tunay na kailangan.
salamat po. sige usapan o diskusyon tayo,ng tayo e umunlad,ha,ha lalo.nakaka-inip na rin nga naman,ha,ha,malapit na
February 23rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Paulit-ulit lang tong mga nangyayaring akusasyon!!!!Wala ring naresolba..mula pa kay Ador Mawanay na ubod ng sinungaling eh andyan na yang mga Senador na yan..
*May nagawa bang pagbabago sa pagpigil ng curruption?
*May nagawang mga safety nets para maiwasan ang mga nakawan sa gobyerno?
*Nasaan na yung mga bill nyo, kayong mga Sanador?
Sa mga Law Students ng Ateneo, Adamson, UP at UE pati na rin ang mga taga UST..
Mga Batas pa naman ang pinag-aaralan nyo eh kayo itong ayaw maniwala na ang batas ang dapat umiral…yung due process of law!! Di yung trial by publicity.
Parang sinabi nyo na ring di na kailangan ng mga lawyer kasi kahit walang due process..eh yun na ang tama at ang totoo!! Dapat sa inyo eh journalism,,mali ata ang napili nyong kurso…
Eh halos lahat ng mga sumusuporta sa magulong mga rally nayan eh yung mga walang problema sa pang araw-araw nilang kakainin..
Ang mga Students eh sustentado ng mga magulang kaya ok lang kahit siguro isang buwan silang mga rally..
Ang mga Pari at Madrte eh may everyday collection naman ang simbahan kaya walang ding problema sa kakainin araw-araw..
Sa mga “civil society” daw kahit di civil ang mga pinaggagawa eh may mga negosyo yan at kahit 1 taon pang mag-rally ang mga yan eh buhay pa rin yan..
Yung mga laging nasa rally na sinasabing dukha..eh wala kasing mga trabaho yan kaya maslalong ok lang at sustentado naman yan ng mga politiko…P150.00 kada araw ang allowance may libreng kain pa..
Eh ang mga milyon-milyong kawawang ordinaryong empleyado na ang tanging ginagawa eh magtrabaho araw-araw, na automatic na kinakaltasan ng tax every month at maabala sa pagpasok at pag-uwi dahil sa mga rally.. ay ang syang totong kawawa…na umaasa lang sa arawang kita..kapag di nakapasok ng ilang araw ay wala ng panggastos..
Yan ang totoo..totoong apektado ng kaguluhan na pinalala ng mga Senador na walang mga isip at puso!!
Mapalitan man si Gloria o mag-resigned eh sino naman ang pwedeng ipalit?Meron bang karadapat-dapat?.. eh baka pagnalasing na sa kapangyarihan eh baka masmalala pa ang gawin…back to step one naman tayo halos isang dekada na to!! Grow up!!!
February 23rd, 2008 at 1:25 pm
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Juan De La Cruz Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 8:49 am
I am really disappointed with this ZTE NBN Deal story. Why should a third rate chinese company like the ZTE be a force in destroying the basic tenets of our society? The Board of Trustees of this company must really be laughing and enjoying themselves in seeing us Filipinos getting rfeally stupid about this furore..my golly…because of ZTE we are all in a turmoil and even asking our president to resign! My gosh napaka-powerful naman ng mga chinese managing the ZTE and even think very superior over us. May i just call our kababayans to calm down and not to be so emotive about this ZTE NBN furore! Why should we be so antagonised by this third rate chinese-led company –the ZTE. Wala na ba tayong pride sa ating sarili at nagpapadala tayo sa mga gimmick ng mga intsik? Common…we are a sophisticated people and not be led to succumb to the bad intentions of the ZTE.
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Don’t blame the chinese for all this mess. Its the filipino people fault for having a corrupt leader squatting in Malacanyang Palace. Ika nga walang manloloko kong hindi ka ng papaloko.
February 23rd, 2008 at 10:20 am
To the people who appreciate the opposition and the “cry for Arroyo to stepdown”, CONTINUE CRYING, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TILL 2010! We have a SHADY and SINISTER sets of opposition in the present times kaya walang masyado sumusuporta sa panawagan na bumaba si Gloria. Unlike in 1986, the Filipinos are united in Ninoy Aquino alone, eh ngayon??? Oppositions like Black & White, communist party list and their media partner ABS-CBN are out for blood, power and money only, Sad tsk..tsk..tsk!
February 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 am
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krik Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
Its appalling how the instigators are trying to overblow this incident, though this should be investigated it should be the courts that should resolve this.. it is the intigators -ABS-CBn and the ‘unchristian’ religious group that is lapping this up..
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you’re right my friend.
news are the instigators and the sons of god called the priest.
bad politics, negative politics, dirty politics.
scandal, scandal and scandal.
corruption, corruption and corruption.
this is the news of the day.this is the breakfast, lunch and dinner for filipinos. you will be fed by “kaning baboy” in your daily meal. what a way to start the morning and what a way to laydown and sleep giving our brains a nightmare of corruption.
binubusog tayo ng corruption news at nilalason ang ating isipan ng corruption news.
what a way of life for filipinos.
February 23rd, 2008 at 12:22 am
For a few moments, let us sit down and think about all this:
How corrupt are the people in the government?
According to Lozada, if you can believe his words:
When asked by somebody to increase the amount of commission for the contract of the NBN, he said it is too high and he said: “bubukol” However he will agree on a smaller amount of commision.
Therein lies the mentality of our government people. A small amount of corruption is alright, nevertheless it is corruption.
And yet the Opposition people, the Catholic Bishops, the college students, and even Cory are embrassing this Lozada guy with open arms, because they believe it will help their hidden agenda to topple the Arroyo government.
Such is the state of our affair and nothing will ever change this, because if the present opposition succeeded, there will be another opposition as sure as the sun rises in the East. This cycle will just go on and on. SAD INDEED !!!!!!
TAYO LANG ANG NALOLOKO. TAMA NA.
Mga Hudas !
February 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 am
Bakit hindi imbestigahan ni Cayetano ang alegasyon ni Neri na nag-offer si Jamby ng P20 M kay Neri para siraan ang Arroyo admi? Ang ibinigay lang kay Lozada ay P50t at P500t samantalang ito ay P20M. Bakit binabaliwala ang alegasyon? Takot ba si Cayetano? Umurong ba ang kanyang tapang o may pinagtatakpan din? Nasaan na ang kredibilidad ni Cayetano? Parang syan bakla na dakdak ng dakdak. Ambisyon kasi niya magpresidente. Ang tatay nya nangurakot din kaya siguro nakarma. Maging mulat sana tayo sa mga pangungurakot ni Alan Cayetano. Inuuto lang niya ang sariling bayan para sa kanyang ambisyon. Wag tayo maging bobo.
February 23rd, 2008 at 12:07 am
Bakit ayaw imbitahin si Erwin Santos? Dahil ba laban ito kay Lozada dahil takot si Cayetano na mawalan ng credibilidad si Lozada? Dapat komprontahin ni Lozada si Erwin kung mapapatunayan na nangurakot si Lozada. si Lozada yata ang takot sa ginawa nyang pangungurakot.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
sabi ng hapon:
“bakit noon tayo giyera sa pilipinas, pilipino sunod parang aso, wara rekramo. ngayon pilipino presidente,lagi gulo.”
sabi ng intsik:
tayo dating pinas, sando kansolsilyo lang atin dala, tayo tinda bote, diyario, taho. ngayon tayo yaman, ari na factory di na tawa pilipino atin, he, he, he.
sabi nong bombay:
sa india, dami tao,init pa tayo hubad. dito sa pinas ganda klima. tayo tinda payong liit tubo pero ngayon, yaman na tayo meron na pahulugan, he, he, he.
sabi nong koreano:
tayo bago dating lang sa pinas. klima sa korea, lamig, kulang pa lupa, mahal bahay. dito sa pinas, meron tayo bahay, driver, katulong at laro golf pa. turo pa natin pinoy kain kimchi. he, he, he.
sabay sabay na nagchorus ang apat:
kasi pilipino sabi intsik, hindi piripino sabi hapon, sila pulos satsat, pulos daldal, pulos reklamo, pulos ngawa, gulo, guro.
tayo dayo, pulos trabaho, pulos tlabaho, pulos trabaho, ngayon tayo yaman, he, he, he. pilipino sira uro, sira ulo, lahat pakialam sobra talino, kulang gawa, pulos dakdak. he, he, he.
kaya kayong pulos reklamo, pulos satsat, mahiya kayo sa mga dayuhan pinagtatawanan lang kayo.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
To Rey in Post 103, well paid
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
No to senators for President for early campaigning and endless grandstanding.
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:38 pm
I hope the NBN probe would not end until the truth comes out and open up more probes of irregularities in other areas because this is healthy for all of us specially the taxpayers and this scenario only comes once in a while when there is systemic and rampant greed and corruption in our government, so lets be thankful to the people who made this possible even though some of this people have tainted past, but the bottom line here is that we are again in the process of cleansing the country’s soul of it’s evil.
History will always repeat itself and people always tend to forget.
February 22nd, 2008 at 6:48 pm
To Rey in Post 103, well paid!
February 22nd, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Tell It Like It Is,
No wonder why this beloved country of ours is always messy coz there are a lot of people like you who are “hip shooters” and can easily point one finger to others while the 4 are pointing to yourself. I hope you got my point as I do not want to stoop down to your level of thinking. Thanks anyway as you are still entitled to an opinion.
February 22nd, 2008 at 4:23 pm
To Rey in Post 103, well said!
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Might as well end the hearings if all they have is J-Lo’s testimony. We need more than one man’s stories. We need a new star witness who can give the public solid evidence.
Neri? JDV? Anyone?
Lester
http://www.lestercavestany.com
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Ito ang experinece ko sa pilipinas at sa nang yayari sa atin na dapat natin tingnan at malaman ninyo ang katotohanan:
1. Example sa corruption Sa Gobyerno:
* May contract renewal kami sa city of Makati - ang hinihinhigi ng bagong department head ay additional 20% na para sa kanya lang (not to mention na 10% na ang para sa baba)
2. Example sa private sectors: (This not an ordinary private companies but well known company world wide)
* Ang bawat department head gagawa ng project worth millions(replacement of chillers min tonnage +2000tons at ang gagawin hahanap ng kilalang contractor at doon ibibigay) - ganoon kagaling ang pinoy malinis diba
3. Ombudsman
* Kinasuhan nang kapatid ko ang Mayor namin (Corruption-) sa Maynila mismo at during that time Kaalyado panamin ang Presedente (Ramos) pero walang nang yari dahil lagayan parin doon - ang ginawa ng kapatid ko pumunta sa Cebu at doon nahatolan ang mayor at ang anak niyang nurse/secretary at na tangal sa posisyon
* ABS-CBN
nag patulong ang kapatid ko sa estasyon para ibulgar ang nangyayari corruption sa lugar namin - ang problima may kapalit na pera para lang ma ibunyag sa kaso thru Media.
Sa mga kapwa ko pinoy iyan ang katotohanan at ang mahirap walang senador na gustong bagohin ang sestima dahil doon lang sila nag iingay pag may problima- pagkatapos wala na - example:
1. comelec computerazation wala paring nag iigay
2. magkano ba ang suweldo ni Lacson sa PNP at bakit ang yaman yaman- tayo na sa OFW kahit malaki na ang suweldo ay nadito parin tayo?
3. Tingnan niyo ang primer highway na ginawa sa Alabang to Cavite (ang subdibisyon ay pang aari ng number # presedentiable) - ang siste ginamit ang PORK Barrel para i construct ang highway, wala siyang gastos, at nag tumaas ang value ng subdibisyon) -simpli lang at hindi halata
4. Nasaan ang mg UP, Ateneo, Dela Salle students at lawyers na magagaling - alam nila ang nang yayari sa bansa natin pero wala silang ginagawa
5. Sa pag apply lang ng trabaho, pag graduate ka sa UP, Ateneo, Dela Salle madaling makapasok - pero pag graduate ka sa provinces kahit pahirapan.
6. Sa kaparian, tingnan nating ang nagyari sa Haite (Pari ang naging Presedinte) - pero ano ang nagyari ngayun lahat sila nag papatayan - wag natin hintayin pa na doon tayo humantong
7. tinganan natin ang nag yayari sa atin dumarami ang ang sikto nga religion at yumayaman sina Vilardi, Velanueva, Manalo -
8. I’m still hoping GMA will change her attitude para sa kinabukasan ng mga anak natin at sa henerasyon
9. SA PNP/AFP - sanay wag kayung magpagamit (ilan bisis na kayung ginamit) at kung mag pagamit kayo siguruhin lang na kayo na uupo dahil madali ang pag babago at pag recover ng economiya - ginawa na ni Macoy at gumanda ang economiya ng pinas at ginawa narin ng Singapore at Thailand.
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Rey Santillan Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:55 am
I had below comments posted earlier but for some reasons, I can no longer find it here…..
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Wow! How much money are you making by making this comment. First of all Gloria Arroyo, Is not the duly elected President of the Philippines she don’t have a mandate from filipino people. Because she only stole her title from the duly elected President Joseph Estrada. And she stole it again from Fernando Poe, Jr. In may 10, 2004. Presidential election. Second of all the so call booming economy she’s bragging about nothing but PAD just like she PAD her votes to ensure her winning. She’s a thief. She don’t deserve to stay in Malacanyang Palace a minute longer. Kick her ass out its over due!
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I am an OFW reeling from the negative effects of a strong Peso but what worries me most is, being sick and tired of hearing and watching the grapple of different organizations and individuals who wants to either take control of the government or try to establish popularity for future use. I wish the current administration, PGMA specifically, will remain strong and will be able to once again withstand the pressure for her to continue the momentum we have achieved in the unprecedented economic gains of our beloved country.
Here goes again the political maniacs, parasites and power-hungry of our country feasting on the ZTE/NBN deal pulling tooth and nails to bring down the presidency of PGMA. They pretend to be seeking for TRUTH and using MORALITY as the basis for PGMA and all those supposedly involved in the failed ZTE/NBN deal to quit their posts. Oh c’mon we’ve been into this same process twice in our country’s history and look what we’ve achieved? Were we able to successfully rid corruption in our government? For over 20 years since 1986, were we able to improve and safeguard our electoral process? I think the answer to all these questions is a big NO for a simple reason. These same type of people (with some same faces since 1986) who are vying for government positions and those that currently have the positions do not want to loose the opportunities to cheat during elections to be able to occupy a good position in government and finally to make a lot of money. Thus, they do not have the motivation to really fix the root causes of the problem of corruption in government. They are willing to spend unproductive hours just to advance their selfish intentions. With this, ironically, I agree with ZTE’s comment that the current investigation at the senate is a political circus. Supposedly, the ZTE/NBN investigations are being conducted in the premise of “in aid of legislation”, to find out the truth and hopefully, to prosecute the offenders. Personally, I do not believe that our elected senators and congressmen will have to wait for the conclusion of the ZTE/NBN investigation before they can formulate effective laws, policies or check and balances in our government system to eradicate or perhaps just even minimize corruption. They can if they really want to. I am sure most if not all of them knows how to handle anomalous transactions in government. After all, these are the source of additional income to compensate or as “return of investments” for all their huge spendings during elections. Are we stupid enough to expect and believe that these elected officials do not make more money than what is officially stipulated in our Constitution? As reference, our 1987 Constitution states that the annual salary of our President is at P300k or P25k per month. The VP, Senate President, Chief Justice and Speaker at P240k or P20k per month and other senators, justices and congressmen at P200k or roughly P17k per month. These figures were probably adjusted now but even if we assume these will be increased 400%, are we convinced that these people will be satisfied at these levels of income? I am sure there are other perks aside from these official annual incomes and commissions are part of it. If commissions or kickbacks from projects or lobbyists do not form part as income to these elected officials, why will they invest or spend millions or even billions (according Erap’s latest estimates) during election time? Are we to believe that all of them are super rich, super heroes, super philanthropists of our country willing to give away their money, time, effort and sometimes even life just to serve and please our people? Let’s wake up and be realistic for a while as it’s the only way we can figure out things and start thinking on real solutions to our problems. Let us realize that those elected officials who are dragging their feet and won’t budge in for reforms in government systems and/or processes and are trying very hard to occupy higher posts in government by overthrowing current occupants have the same corrupt objectives. They simply cannot wait for their time due to greed. For these type of people, now is the right time to make a move as our economy is doing good thus, a lot of money are pouring in or circulating in our country which means more commissions for them. As to the TRUTH they are seeking, they simply want the people involved to confirm what they believe. For them, they already know the truth since the Hello Garci scandal. Didn’t we see the banners and slogans used during the rallies, read and heard the writings and speeches of people inviting the personalities implicated in the controversies to step down? Yet, they continue to pretend they are all still searching for TRUTH. Since we are mostly Christians who are God fearing, the TRUTH and MORALITY issues are good covers to invite more followers for their real cause, i.e., to grab power. That is why this futile exercise has been tagged as a political circus. My dear senators, please and by all means, do not start a war with China by provoking them. A bloody war maybe far fetch but political and economic ramifications will be ascertained once we drag China into this controversy. In addition, what if ZTE or a Chinese government representative will heed to your invitation and will issue an official statement in one of your hearings that there was no bribery or corruption involved in the NBN deal? Is this what you have been waiting for to save face and stop the investigations?
What’s the difference between the past two People Power Revolutions and the current fiasco attempting to have a third one? During the 20 years of Marcos regime, there were more negative factors than positive ones. The economy was so bad as the money siphoned from our country’s corruption were mostly invested outside the Philippines. Then there was martial law which left so many hungry politicians waiting for the right opportunity. Majority of our people were simply waiting for a flash point to react thus, when it came through the death of Ninoy, EDSA 1 happened. What happened to the 3 popular personalities and backers of EDSA 1 namely : Cory, Ramos and Enrile? Ex-Pres. Cory Aquino was officially installed as president right after the revolution and ex-Pres. Ramos became president as well in 1992. Sen. Enrile is still popular and is currently one of our senators. In Erap’s time, to begin with, a lot of us know that our country have installed an incompetent manager to lead and manage our country. As expected, after almost 3 years in office, the economy was again bad since the fundamentals established during ex-Pres. Ramos time were not sustained. The ouster of Erap movements were primarily spearheaded from our middle class and professionals as these were the classes who realized that we didn’t have a good manager. The thwarted opening of an envelope at the senate impeachment hearing triggered EDSA 2. Again, the popular backers of EDSA 2 are currently occupying high posts in government such as senators Villar and Legarda, congressman de Venecia and even PGMA who did not want to show her sympathy for the cause at that time. Earlier, I have concluded that out of these 2 revolutions which were primarily aimed to change the handlers of government to effect changes, we did not succeed nor achieve our ultimate objective of eradicating or even minimizing corruption. Some people however, managed to succeed in getting popularity that placed them in the helm of government offices. Are these the same results we want to achieve from a possible EDSA 3 or People Power Revolution? The way I see it, the common denominator for the past 2 people power revolutions is the poor performance of our manager as reflected on our country’s economy. I am not surprised that despite the never ending accusations directed to our president and her family, the people behind the moves are having a hard time getting what they want. They could have challenged or disputed first our country’s 7.3 GDP performance of 2007 (first in 30 years), the reasons behind the strengthening of our currency and the historic low inflation rates before they have accelerated their moves to oust the president. I hope the majority of us who wants peace and progress will continue to be on the sidelines and help to genuinely effect changes in our government.
I am not advocating corruption and being a Catholic, I long for most of us if not all of us to strengthen our values. And, I hate being naïve, arrogant and having double standards. Look at those people exposing corruption and are pretending to fight it. Didn’t Jun Lozada admitted in one of the senate hearings that he was also corrupt? That he signed deals involving public funds for his, his wife and brother’s benefits. He even approved the purchase of imported goats just to eat our local grass at over P23k each? Didn’t Joey de Venecia set his foot on the senate witness stand after he lost hope that his company will not get the NBN deal? I wonder what happened to the P20 million patriotic fund offered to Sec.Neri. Was it split between the loyal whistleblowers? Are the politicians backing all these investigations clean, the super heroes and the super philanthropists of our country? Were they not involved in anomalies such as kidnappings, killings, election fraud and commissions or kickbacks from projects and lobbyists? Are they just receiving the basic annual pay as stipulated in our Constitution? I honestly don’t think so. To our priests and leaders of our churches, please focus on enhancing the moral and spiritual values of your flock. This way, you can help minimize or perhaps prevent anomalies and corruptions to happen over and over again. Please stay away from politics. Remember that Jesus Christ was sentenced to death wrongly. He was misjudged by the majority due to wrong and distorted evidences that were presented during His trial. Just imagine your flock joining and forming as majority in possibly misjudging our current administration. Maybe, despite their strong management performance, we will successfully bring it down, start all over again and then what?
If we are dead serious in fighting corruption and wants to make our nation great, we need to make radical changes in our electoral process and government systems. We need to be proactive rather than reactive by putting in place all the necessary checks and balances without jeopardizing efficiencies. We have to be more realistic and we need to admit that we cannot simply put any Tom, Dick, Harry or Jane as our president and expect him/her to deliver. We must screen our leaders not just through popularity and power. We need to fast track reforms in our election/voting process such as its computerization. We need to put an end that those only who have the money can manage the affairs of our government. There was one article published by the Management Association of the Philippines in one newspaper in reaction to the current fiasco. One of their question is, are we to tolerate lesser standard for those who manage the affairs of our government? Of course not! But how can we ensure they adhere to higher standards than private institutions when they can only officially receive a basic pay lower than mid managerial levels of private institutions? Are the rewards and penalties properly and clearly defined somewhere? At one time, those found guilty of plunder in our country is supposedly punishable by death. We attempted to define the penalty but, what about the rewards? Once we have clearly define the rewards for all government positions, we need to reinstate the maximum penalty of death for plunder. Talking about rewards, definitely, our 1987 Constitution needs to be updated. We cannot continue to hide from the people the real figures our government officials are compensated. We cannot expect a congressman to be satisfied with the official basic monthly pay of P17k only without putting his hands into the Pork Barrel funds as additional compensation. Aside from these supposedly development and emergency funds which they use as milking cow, apparently for some, these are not enough as “returns of their investment” during the elections and reason why they need to have commissions from other projects and lobbyists for certain legislations. Commissions, profit sharing or stock options for private institutions are legal for as long as they are clearly defined as part of an employee’s compensation package. Why don’t we consider this as part of the official compensation for our government managers? These are just some examples of really attacking and solving the root causes of corruption in government.
If we don’t unite to urge our law makers to fast track the necessary reforms we badly need in our system of government, our people power revolutions and any forms of mass actions will be worthless for the populace. It will only be of value to a few power hungry and parasitic politicians. Why don’t we start evaluating each performance of our government officials? Didn’t we realize that some popular figures in some uprisings managed to sneak into higher government offices without looking back at their causes? For example, we put into the senate a previous rebel soldier presumably to help the government solve the plights of our soldiers. Was he able to deliver what was expected of him so discontented and disgruntled soldiers like him in the past will be avoided or minimized? If he did, why is there another soldier who followed his suit? Yet they continue to preach similar ideologies so more people will join their cause which will probably just prolong their stay in the senate or perhaps even put them at the presidency. We also placed leftists in our congress in the hopes of alleviating poverty and end the fight between government forces and NPA’s to achieve peace. What have they done along these lines? How many years have they been members of congress and yet they still go to the streets once in a while to air their same grievances against the government? Are they not directly connected with government who have the hands to initiate changes and reforms they have been marching and shouting for?
Charter Change and implementation of National ID System are just some of the important issues that our beloved congressmen and senators should have been dealing with if we want to rid of corruption. For Charter Change, aside from redefining the compensation package of our elected officials, the electoral reforms, etc., there are some changes needed so the system is designed around our culture and not just simply patterned from western style of government. All these are needed so our country will achieve sustainable growth. Majority of the politicians not aligned with the current administration are up against Charter Change. These same people who are asking for “CHANGE” and search for TRUTH now do not want to pursue above changes. They hide their real intentions behind the reason of not allowing the current president to extend her/his term. The Charter Change issue has been discussed since Pres. Ramos time. The shield of the opposition at that time sounded reasonable as the timing was late. However, for PGMA’s time, the same issue was brought up earlier in her presidency and it would have been more reasonable to go for it then than it is now since 2010 elections is only around 2 years from now. Again, if we are serious to consider breaking the systemic way of corruption in government, we need to amend our existing Constitution. Some politicians want to scrap the idea of having a National ID System for baloney excuses. Having a National ID System will not only help deter terrorists or criminals from their malicious activities but will also help minimize corruption both in government and private institutions. To cite some examples why it can help prevent corruption in government. Since the National ID System database will compliment the electorate database, it can help prevent fraud during elections brought about by flying voters. Its database can be used for the electronic Electoral System thus, can fast track the latter’s implementation. It can help contribute to a more efficient system in government transactions, e.g., SSS, PAG-IBIG, Immigration, DFA, etc., etc. processing. Imagine for a Filipino traveler from abroad just using his National ID to enter back the Philippines. Its faster and more efficient. Thus, its implementation can significantly reduce head counts in government offices. It can prevent fictitious people like Jose Velarde and Jose Pidal from maintaining mysterious bank accounts. If these examples have a lot of advantages and will help safeguard corruption, then why are these being rejected by some politicians and policy makers? Isn’t it because they are afraid they will have a hard time doing some anomalous transactions when their opportunity comes?
TAMA NA SOBRA NA ANG MGA PLASTIKAN! Let’s focus on real reforms. Let’s amend our Constitution, finalize the Cheap Medicine’s Bill, implement the National ID System, formulate laws/guidelines to ensure we have good and competent candidates running for government posts, we will have fair and clean elections, elected government officials are compensated properly in legal manner and most importantly, we will have world-class government services and infrastructures and make our nation GREAT!
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:09 pm
the best thing that we can do as a private citizen is to be vigilant and instill discipline in our society. if we only have discipline in our society, there will be no corruption and less crimes. we can begin the transformation of our evil society into a progressive and disciplined society in our public and private education system.
Our children spend most of their time in school than in our homes. At young age, teaching and training them the values of discipline in life is the first step towards realizing this gigantic dream. This value that they acquire from school can also be practiced when they go home after school. The role of parents is to guide them to become honest, responsible and discipline human being. The LGU’s on the other hand can help this struggle by making the environment clean and orderly. By doing this, positive attitude among local residents will be realized if they have this kind of environment.
Lets act together now before its too late for the next generation to harvest and reap our sacrifices. The best time is now my beloved countrymen for a better and safer philippines. The present fiasco will happen again and again if we do not act now. Think about the future and not the present. Your opinion on this matter is highly appreciated.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:55 am
I had below comments posted earlier but for some reasons, I can no longer find it here…..
I am an OFW reeling from the negative effects of a strong Peso but what worries me most is, being sick and tired of hearing and watching the grapple of different organizations and individuals who wants to either take control of the government or try to establish popularity for future use. I wish the current administration, PGMA specifically, will remain strong and will be able to once again withstand the pressure for her to continue the momentum we have achieved in the unprecedented economic gains of our beloved country.
Here goes again the political maniacs, parasites and power-hungry of our country feasting on the ZTE/NBN deal pulling tooth and nails to bring down the presidency of PGMA. They pretend to be seeking for TRUTH and using MORALITY as the basis for PGMA and all those supposedly involved in the failed ZTE/NBN deal to quit their posts. Oh c’mon we’ve been into this same process twice in our country’s history and look what we’ve achieved? Were we able to successfully rid corruption in our government? For over 20 years since 1986, were we able to improve and safeguard our electoral process? I think the answer to all these questions is a big NO for a simple reason. These same type of people (with some same faces since 1986) who are vying for government positions and those that currently have the positions do not want to loose the opportunities to cheat during elections to be able to occupy a good position in government and finally to make a lot of money. Thus, they do not have the motivation to really fix the root causes of the problem of corruption in government. They are willing to spend unproductive hours just to advance their selfish intentions. With this, ironically, I agree with ZTE’s comment that the current investigation at the senate is a political circus. Supposedly, the ZTE/NBN investigations are being conducted in the premise of “in aid of legislation”, to find out the truth and hopefully, to prosecute the offenders. Personally, I do not believe that our elected senators and congressmen will have to wait for the conclusion of the ZTE/NBN investigation before they can formulate effective laws, policies or check and balances in our government system to eradicate or perhaps just even minimize corruption. They can if they really want to. I am sure most if not all of them knows how to handle anomalous transactions in government. After all, these are the source of additional income to compensate or as “return of investments” for all their huge spendings during elections. Are we stupid enough to expect and believe that these elected officials do not make more money than what is officially stipulated in our Constitution? As reference, our 1987 Constitution states that the annual salary of our President is at P300k or P25k per month. The VP, Senate President, Chief Justice and Speaker at P240k or P20k per month and other senators, justices and congressmen at P200k or roughly P17k per month. These figures were probably adjusted now but even if we assume these will be increased 400%, are we convinced that these people will be satisfied at these levels of income? I am sure there are other perks aside from these official annual incomes and commissions are part of it. If commissions or kickbacks from projects or lobbyists do not form part as income to these elected officials, why will they invest or spend millions or even billions (according Erap’s latest estimates) during election time? Are we to believe that all of them are super rich, super heroes, super philanthropists of our country willing to give away their money, time, effort and sometimes even life just to serve and please our people? Let’s wake up and be realistic for a while as it’s the only way we can figure out things and start thinking on real solutions to our problems. Let us realize that those elected officials who are dragging their feet and won’t budge in for reforms in government systems and/or processes and are trying very hard to occupy higher posts in government by overthrowing current occupants have the same corrupt objectives. They simply cannot wait for their time due to greed. For these type of people, now is the right time to make a move as our economy is doing good thus, a lot of money are pouring in or circulating in our country which means more commissions for them. As to the TRUTH they are seeking, they simply want the people involved to confirm what they believe. For them, they already know the truth since the Hello Garci scandal. Didn’t we see the banners and slogans used during the rallies, read and heard the writings and speeches of people inviting the personalities implicated in the controversies to step down? Yet, they continue to pretend they are all still searching for TRUTH. Since we are mostly Christians who are God fearing, the TRUTH and MORALITY issues are good covers to invite more followers for their real cause, i.e., to grab power. That is why this futile exercise has been tagged as a political circus. My dear senators, please and by all means, do not start a war with China by provoking them. A bloody war maybe far fetch but political and economic ramifications will be ascertained once we drag China into this controversy. In addition, what if ZTE or a Chinese government representative will heed to your invitation and will issue an official statement in one of your hearings that there was no bribery or corruption involved in the NBN deal? Is this what you have been waiting for to save face and stop the investigations?
What’s the difference between the past two People Power Revolutions and the current fiasco attempting to have a third one? During the 20 years of Marcos regime, there were more negative factors than positive ones. The economy was so bad as the money siphoned from our country’s corruption were mostly invested outside the Philippines. Then there was martial law which left so many hungry politicians waiting for the right opportunity. Majority of our people were simply waiting for a flash point to react thus, when it came through the death of Ninoy, EDSA 1 happened. What happened to the 3 popular personalities and backers of EDSA 1 namely : Cory, Ramos and Enrile? Ex-Pres. Cory Aquino was officially installed as president right after the revolution and ex-Pres. Ramos became president as well in 1992. Sen. Enrile is still popular and is currently one of our senators. In Erap’s time, to begin with, a lot of us know that our country have installed an incompetent manager to lead and manage our country. As expected, after almost 3 years in office, the economy was again bad since the fundamentals established during ex-Pres. Ramos time were not sustained. The ouster of Erap movements were primarily spearheaded from our middle class and professionals as these were the classes who realized that we didn’t have a good manager. The thwarted opening of an envelope at the senate impeachment hearing triggered EDSA 2. Again, the popular backers of EDSA 2 are currently occupying high posts in government such as senators Villar and Legarda, congressman de Venecia and even PGMA who did not want to show her sympathy for the cause at that time. Earlier, I have concluded that out of these 2 revolutions which were primarily aimed to change the handlers of government to effect changes, we did not succeed nor achieve our ultimate objective of eradicating or even minimizing corruption. Some people however, managed to succeed in getting popularity that placed them in the helm of government offices. Are these the same results we want to achieve from a possible EDSA 3 or People Power Revolution? The way I see it, the common denominator for the past 2 people power revolutions is the poor performance of our manager as reflected on our country’s economy. I am not surprised that despite the never ending accusations directed to our president and her family, the people behind the moves are having a hard time getting what they want. They could have challenged or disputed first our country’s 7.3 GDP performance of 2007 (first in 30 years), the reasons behind the strengthening of our currency and the historic low inflation rates before they have accelerated their moves to oust the president. I hope the majority of us who wants peace and progress will continue to be on the sidelines and help to genuinely effect changes in our government.
I am not advocating corruption and being a Catholic, I long for most of us if not all of us to strengthen our values. And, I hate being naïve, arrogant and having double standards. Look at those people exposing corruption and are pretending to fight it. Didn’t Jun Lozada admitted in one of the senate hearings that he was also corrupt? That he signed deals involving public funds for his, his wife and brother’s benefits. He even approved the purchase of imported goats just to eat our local grass at over P23k each? Didn’t Joey de Venecia set his foot on the senate witness stand after he lost hope that his company will not get the NBN deal? I wonder what happened to the P20 million patriotic fund offered to Sec.Neri. Was it split between the loyal whistleblowers? Are the politicians backing all these investigations clean, the super heroes and the super philanthropists of our country? Were they not involved in anomalies such as kidnappings, killings, election fraud and commissions or kickbacks from projects and lobbyists? Are they just receiving the basic annual pay as stipulated in our Constitution? I honestly don’t think so. To our priests and leaders of our churches, please focus on enhancing the moral and spiritual values of your flock. This way, you can help minimize or perhaps prevent anomalies and corruptions to happen over and over again. Please stay away from politics. Remember that Jesus Christ was sentenced to death wrongly. He was misjudged by the majority due to wrong and distorted evidences that were presented during His trial. Just imagine your flock joining and forming as majority in possibly misjudging our current administration. Maybe, despite their strong management performance, we will successfully bring it down, start all over again and then what?
If we are dead serious in fighting corruption and wants to make our nation great, we need to make radical changes in our electoral process and government systems. We need to be proactive rather than reactive by putting in place all the necessary checks and balances without jeopardizing efficiencies. We have to be more realistic and we need to admit that we cannot simply put any Tom, Dick, Harry or Jane as our president and expect him/her to deliver. We must screen our leaders not just through popularity and power. We need to fast track reforms in our election/voting process such as its computerization. We need to put an end that those only who have the money can manage the affairs of our government. There was one article published by the Management Association of the Philippines in one newspaper in reaction to the current fiasco. One of their question is, are we to tolerate lesser standard for those who manage the affairs of our government? Of course not! But how can we ensure they adhere to higher standards than private institutions when they can only officially receive a basic pay lower than mid managerial levels of private institutions? Are the rewards and penalties properly and clearly defined somewhere? At one time, those found guilty of plunder in our country is supposedly punishable by death. We attempted to define the penalty but, what about the rewards? Once we have clearly define the rewards for all government positions, we need to reinstate the maximum penalty of death for plunder. Talking about rewards, definitely, our 1987 Constitution needs to be updated. We cannot continue to hide from the people the real figures our government officials are compensated. We cannot expect a congressman to be satisfied with the official basic monthly pay of P17k only without putting his hands into the Pork Barrel funds as additional compensation. Aside from these supposedly development and emergency funds which they use as milking cow, apparently for some, these are not enough as “returns of their investment” during the elections and reason why they need to have commissions from other projects and lobbyists for certain legislations. Commissions, profit sharing or stock options for private institutions are legal for as long as they are clearly defined as part of an employee’s compensation package. Why don’t we consider this as part of the official compensation for our government managers? These are just some examples of really attacking and solving the root causes of corruption in government.
If we don’t unite to urge our law makers to fast track the necessary reforms we badly need in our system of government, our people power revolutions and any forms of mass actions will be worthless for the populace. It will only be of value to a few power hungry and parasitic politicians. Why don’t we start evaluating each performance of our government officials? Didn’t we realize that some popular figures in some uprisings managed to sneak into higher government offices without looking back at their causes? For example, we put into the senate a previous rebel soldier presumably to help the government solve the plights of our soldiers. Was he able to deliver what was expected of him so discontented and disgruntled soldiers like him in the past will be avoided or minimized? If he did, why is there another soldier who followed his suit? Yet they continue to preach similar ideologies so more people will join their cause which will probably just prolong their stay in the senate or perhaps even put them at the presidency. We also placed leftists in our congress in the hopes of alleviating poverty and end the fight between government forces and NPA’s to achieve peace. What have they done along these lines? How many years have they been members of congress and yet they still go to the streets once in a while to air their same grievances against the government? Are they not directly connected with government who have the hands to initiate changes and reforms they have been marching and shouting for?
Charter Change and implementation of National ID System are just some of the important issues that our beloved congressmen and senators should have been dealing with if we want to rid of corruption. For Charter Change, aside from redefining the compensation package of our elected officials, the electoral reforms, etc., there are some changes needed so the system is designed around our culture and not just simply patterned from western style of government. All these are needed so our country will achieve sustainable growth. Majority of the politicians not aligned with the current administration are up against Charter Change. These same people who are asking for “CHANGE” and search for TRUTH now do not want to pursue above changes. They hide their real intentions behind the reason of not allowing the current president to extend her/his term. The Charter Change issue has been discussed since Pres. Ramos time. The shield of the opposition at that time sounded reasonable as the timing was late. However, for PGMA’s time, the same issue was brought up earlier in her presidency and it would have been more reasonable to go for it then than it is now since 2010 elections is only around 2 years from now. Again, if we are serious to consider breaking the systemic way of corruption in government, we need to amend our existing Constitution. Some politicians want to scrap the idea of having a National ID System for baloney excuses. Having a National ID System will not only help deter terrorists or criminals from their malicious activities but will also help minimize corruption both in government and private institutions. To cite some examples why it can help prevent corruption in government. Since the National ID System database will compliment the electorate database, it can help prevent fraud during elections brought about by flying voters. Its database can be used for the electronic Electoral System thus, can fast track the latter’s implementation. It can help contribute to a more efficient system in government transactions, e.g., SSS, PAG-IBIG, Immigration, DFA, etc., etc. processing. Imagine for a Filipino traveler from abroad just using his National ID to enter back the Philippines. Its faster and more efficient. Thus, its implementation can significantly reduce head counts in government offices. It can prevent fictitious people like Jose Velarde and Jose Pidal from maintaining mysterious bank accounts. If these examples have a lot of advantages and will help safeguard corruption, then why are these being rejected by some politicians and policy makers? Isn’t it because they are afraid they will have a hard time doing some anomalous transactions when their opportunity comes?
TAMA NA SOBRA NA ANG MGA PLASTIKAN! Let’s focus on real reforms. Let’s amend our Constitution, finalize the Cheap Medicine’s Bill, implement the National ID System, formulate laws/guidelines to ensure we have good and competent candidates running for government posts, we will have fair and clean elections, elected government officials are compensated properly in legal manner and most importantly, we will have world-class government services and infrastructures and make our nation GREAT!
February 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
Its appalling how the instigators are trying to overblow this incident, though this should be investigated it should be the courts that should resolve this.. it is the intigators -ABS-CBn and the ‘unchristian’ religious group that is lapping this up..
the crying boy is no hero to me…he’s out to save his own skin..he has enriched himself with his so called ‘permissible commission’ and hearing his voice from utube laughing his way to his loot only confirm his being a fake hero…common any body who calls your co-workers ‘hudas’ in national TV exposes the kind of character one has…
do we go to the streets each time gossip ,allegation, hearsay and he said she said stories come up?
February 22nd, 2008 at 8:49 am
I am really disappointed with this ZTE NBN Deal story. Why should a third rate chinese company like the ZTE be a force in destroying the basic tenets of our society? The Board of Trustees of this company must really be laughing and enjoying themselves in seeing us Filipinos getting rfeally stupid about this furore..my golly…because of ZTE we are all in a turmoil and even asking our president to resign! My gosh napaka-powerful naman ng mga chinese managing the ZTE and even think very superior over us. May i just call our kababayans to calm down and not to be so emotive about this ZTE NBN furore! Why should we be so antagonised by this third rate chinese-led company –the ZTE. Wala na ba tayong pride sa ating sarili at nagpapadala tayo sa mga gimmick ng mga intsik? Common…we are a sophisticated people and not be led to succumb to the bad intentions of the ZTE.
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:38 am
Ibig mobang sabihin Pogolito na dahil may high paying job ka sa abroad ay mas tama ka kaysa sa mga iba na nagbibigay ng taliwas na pamanaw sa iyo. Basehan ba ng kita ng isang tao ang pagiging tama nya. Malaki sweldo ko dito sa labas, baka nga mas malaki pa kinikita ko sa iyo pero hindi ko ito ginagawang batayan para masabi kung sino ang mas may tamang panamaw.
Ngayon kalang ba nakatikim ng malaking sweldo at kailangan mopang ipagyabang yan? Kung malaki ang sweldo mo ano pa nirereklamo mo sa mga nangyayari sa Pinas? Bakit dka magbigay sa patriotic fund ni Pangilinan, kaysa sa aming mga OFW pa nya kunin yun. Kahit saang anggulo namin panoorin ang nangyayari ngayon sa senado sa Pinas, isang uri na naman ng panloloko ito. Hindi naman sila nakakagawa ng batas para pigilan ang mga katiwalian na ito. Sa mga nabasa ko nga dyan, ayaw nila talagang gumawa ng batas para labanan ang mga katiwalian na ito dahil baka dumating ang panahon sila na ang presidente ay hindi sila makapagnakaw dahil sa batas na ginawa nila.
February 22nd, 2008 at 6:34 am
Nenette Zayas Says:
February 21st, 2008 at 10:32 am
The coming of Lozada in my own simple opinion is a well plan of those who want Pres. Arroyo to step down long before… my question is… why everytime there is a whistle-blower, the name lacson is always around… either because of Lacson someone come out or he had meeting with lacson and etc… and all of the whistle blowers seek refuge at la salle… maybe the adviser or handler of the wistle-blower don’t trust that much with jesuits, el shadai, or Bro. Villanueva.. come to think of it my dear countrymen who believe right away the crying boy (lozada).. I’m jst ordinary citizen and far beyond the genius mind of our dear senators, bishops and priests. Come to think that if someone wants to commit crime, like kidnapping by all means their identity should be masked… but here comes the kidnappers of lozada, granting that people from the airport part of the plot, they have all the access to prevent the spycam to record their movements. Everytime a whistle-blower blows what they knew First Gentleman (because they cannot directly point worng doings of the president so they always hit the husband to connect to the Pres.) ) is always connected with the word “NARINIG KO PO” “sinabo po na si FG ang nag utos” and etc… haayyy naku ano ba naman yan na testimony??? Why not investigate Abalos directly to get to the bottom and let abalos blow what he knows… If senators are the investigating body of the government cabinets etc.., they tansfer to ombudsman and let ombudsman take the place of the senators.
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If what you’re saying is true, Then its no different when they kick the duly elected President Joseph Estrada.
In fact the only reason they kick him out so that they’re the one can rob the government coffer.
Just to let you know Gloria Arroyo, Is not the President of the Philippines. She don’t have mandate from filipino people because she only stole her title from the duly elected President Joseph Estrada, And she stole it again in May 10, 2004. Presidential election from Fernando Poe, Jr. SHE IS NOTHING BUT A THIEF.
February 22nd, 2008 at 6:28 am
PhilForest man bares Lozada ‘trash’
This is nothing new, We already know that Gloria Arroyo/cronies do everything in their power to protect their ass. Just like the rest of graft and corruption that is hounding her bogus regime. She is corrupt to the bones. Kick her ass out its over due!
February 22nd, 2008 at 5:28 am
Nelson Says:
February 20th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Sa mga obispo at kaparian:
linisin niyo ang sariling baho ninyo bago kayo mag linis ng iba dahil ito ang nagyayari sa mga pari na pinagtatakpan ninyo:
1. isang pari sa samar, nag asawa at napilitan umalis sa bokasyun at bumalik oli sa pag papari dahil sa financial problem - ang ginawa ng obispo pinagbayad ng pera (standard daw) at ginawang sakristan at pagkatapus ng ilang buwan pina balik sa pagpapari at nasa Cebu na assign.
2. isang pari sa Samar din galing - nakabuntis (dalawa na ang anak) at na sa Roam pa ngayun
Nakakahiya na kayo. Wala na kayung ginawang maganda sa bansa natin, lalo lang niyo hinahati ang pinoy sa kalokohan niyo.
I’m a devoted Catholic - pero sa pari wala na akung respito sa inyo.
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hindi lang yan nelson.
dito sa Los Angeles California, bangkarote and diocese ng LA dahil sa pagbabayad ng hundred million dollars sa mga kabataang inabuso ng mga pari, kasama paring pilipino.
for sure, marami rin sa mga pari at madre na nangabuso sa kabataan at inabuso nila ang kanilang abito bilang pari.
aywan ko ba kong bakit sa pilipinas akala mo sila ang hari, nakikialam sa gobyerno.
akala mo sila lang anak ng diyos.
kaya mga kababayan, maniwala kayo sa diyos at wag sa pari. pareho, pareho lang tayong pinapakinggan ng diyos, nakasuot lang sila ng uniforming puti.
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:57 am
Lozada is not a whistle blower.
He is a liar blower.
What he blows are lies,lies, and lies.
What i don’t understand is, how come Lozada is the principal witness to believe in, as we all know, he is an outsider to the contract being a consultant kuno.
Just like in mahjong, he is a miron. Nakikita ang maling tapon.
Secondly, he is like a chinese filipino actor like ponga, laging alalay ang ganap na hindi pwedeng maging bida… meaning whatever he says ay di dapat paniwalaan.
Granting there is commission in the deal, that is natural. Pag bumili ka ba ng kotse walang commission ang ahente. pag bumili ka ba ng patis saari sari store, walang tubo si inday.
kaya kayong mga oposisyon, maghintay na lang kayo ng panahon ninyo para magkomisyon din kayo. sabi nga ni Erap weather, weather lang, pana panahon lang.
At si Lozada, kaya maingay, kasi nga balya, balya kanya tubo. wala kita.
whatever will be the result of the senate investigation, then, it is not in aid of legislation but in aid another coming investigation. walang katapusan.
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:58 am
pogito, you do have a point man. But it’s a point that counts only if we want to wander aimlessly through a haze of mindless arguments. The issue is not about joker arroyo badgering the saintly lozada. Actually he was just trying to demonstrate the basic rudiments of fair play man. Just trying to balance the damaging effects of the very encouraging questions made by our biased but un-bright senators. The Joker’s actions should have made you proud of him. You know why? It’s because the senate is not a prosecuting body man. They were leading the witness man and joker being the brilliant lawyer that he is merely tried to bring back sanity to proceedings. If no order is established during the conduct of the inquiry then there’s more than an even chance that the rights of some people would be trampled upon. He was just trying to contain the abuse that could be generated by over-eagerness. We need to guard against man. Democratic principle boy. The issue is not about gma’s complicity man. It’s about guarding against the evil of man’s often failing reason. This rule protects you too man. Bring the issue to the courts man. The basic rules of fairness are better exercised there. If you don’t trust the courts to get the facts straight then you are not helping us strengthen our democratic institutions. If you still manage to miss my point then read my piece again. Remember ignorance is a widely shared commodity. If rather be a clown than be comfortably ignorant.
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 am
Ang imbestigation sa ZTE-NBN was resumed because of Lozada, at iba pang pakulo. What a waste of time: based on the revelations of Lozada, he became a hero after his afterthoughts: when he learned about the alleged commissions, he considered/acquiesced to 35% commission instead of a bigger one, and did not denounce it right away. Then he talked to so many people (both opposition and administration) about patriotic funds/safe ways to avoid appearing in the Senate; then when the administration can not find solution to his problem of appearing before the senate, he was constrained to appear before the Senate and dropped his friends in the administration for his self interest (he got convinced that by appearing in the Senate and talk about corruption, that would be to his advantage, instead of getting detained in the Senate) as he is now getting a few hours of fame as a supposed “hero.”
Senate should also stop the investigation and start using what he knows by crafting legislation on corruption which Neri says is deep rooted. I think there is no solution in sight from anyone (clergy, because its sermons are useless and ineffective or some of them reportedly receive “love offerings” from Pagcor, etc., nor from media, because ABS-CBN/ANC is more concerned with ratings and sensationalism, and some may be operatives of the opposition, because as alleged by former speaker De Venecia, there is also corruption in media). The solution is, aside from palliative legislation, to amend certain provisions of the Philippine Constiution so that there will be no selling of votes during elections, no more using connections to transact business (in private or government), and among other things the compensation of the officials of government under the constitution shall be continuously increased, commensurate to their responsibilities. How much do you know is the yearly compensation of GMA who has done a great deal about Philippine fiscal matters and the economy? It is peanuts compared to the compensation of people working abroad. Without reforms in the constituion and the change in the culture of corruption in all sectors of society, the corrupt, who are not in power will only replace the alleged corrupt who are now in power.
Let’s analyze history of corruption in the Philippines, so that history will not repeat itself.
jakahedy
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:13 am
I don’t care what you people say, The bogus administration of Gloria Arroyo, Is corrupt to the bones. Its time to unite and kick her ass out alone with her corrupt cronies!
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:35 am
Kawawa naman ang mga naloko ni Lozada. Emosyon kasi ang pinaiiral nyo. Nauna kasi ang galit nyo.
Before you believe somebody you do not know who is talking about this and that, have a background check first. Imagine, siya ang nagsusumbong ng baho, eh sya pala ay umaalingasaw na!
Watch youtube if you haven’t.
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:16 am
let’s condemn the senate for grandstanding and dragging this issue. after all, its a bigger crime compared to stealing billions of people’s money.
let’s move on. I’m sure if we leave the issue behind, the government will suddenly grow a conscience and do good like the ‘hello Garci” scandal. diba nagbago na sila??
They’re all the same! so let’s allow all of them to steal us blind. in the meantime, let’s jail petty criminals and people who don’t know how to calculate the taxes they ‘owe’ our government
1. The constitution gave the senate the power to investigate. let them use it. otherwise, change the constitution. (oh wait, that’s exactly what they’re trying to do)
2. While the senate may have its crooks, right now, its probably the only one left intact that is not under the control of this administration. are you going to trust DOJ, NBI and ombudsman? how about the PNP?
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:27 am
kung gusto ninyo ng imbestigasyon, dapat lahat imbestigahan.
katulad ni Villar, bakit yumaman yan gayong sabi ay tindero lang sa Divisoria. So may hinala rin.
katulad ng mga pari, nangunguna sa imbestigasyon at pagpapatalsik kay Gloria, dapat, imbestigahan din yan.
Unang una libre sila sa Pilipinas, lupa, building, lahat libre sa tax, may abuloy pa sa mga taong mahihirap.
kung gusto ng parehas, lahat parehas, yan mga obispo, pari, mdare akala mo kung sinong malilinis dapat imbestigahan din.
mga mahihirap walang pakialam kasi nga,wala namang mahihita, ginagamit silang dahilan. dahil pag napatalsik na naman ang presidente, sila sila na naman, walang para sa lahat.
kaya tigilan na yang kasasatsat, isang solution, magtrabaho kayo, unahin ang pamilya, bago pakialaman ang bayan.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:19 am
If there still some sense left in us all, we should all stop this uselss discussion about corruptions because we are just barking on the wrong tree. We all must have too much time on our hands. Just read the thread of Arigato. I think he says it all:
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Arigato Says:
February 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Pare-pareho naman sila mapa-administration o opposition man na puro corrupt. Kaya away yan ng mga corrupt.
Deep rooted na yan sa ating sistemang politikal mula pa noong unang panahon. Kaya hindi na yan big deal. Ang talagang totoong isyu dyan ay ang malinaw na pagkagahaman ng bawat pulitiko sa kapangyarihan at kayamanan. Inggitan lang yan e. Galit sila pag may nakakuha ng mas malaking nakaw kaysa sa kanila. Puro sila magnanakaw.
Ngayon nagtatawag na naman ang simbahan at iba pang mga vultures-in-waiting ng people power. Para ano? Patalsikin ang kasalukuyang nakaupo pra sila naman ang pumwesto? Karamihan sa kanila di ba pinatalsik na natin sa EDSA 1 at EDSA 2? Ngayon ibabalik ba natin sila ulit?
Paikot-ikot na lang ba ang mundo ng mamamayang Pilipino sa mga ganid at sakim na pulitiko?
Sana’y natutunan na natin ang kasaysayan ng ating mga ipinaglaban.
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February 21st, 2008 at 11:54 pm
After the patriotic fund we have this alleged phone conversation between lozada and joey. on the morality call avenue, things start falling apart. sadly, youtube’s Harapan: June Lozada expose p10 (and the rest of the series) was viciously blanketed by copyright laws. so there’s no more avenue to unmask the inconsistencies of jun lozada.
but here’s another take on uncovering who are Lozada and Joey behind the camera. still at youtube:
Lozada - Crying Babies
it seems in matter of national interest wiretapping is “condoned”. you guys would be appalled to know our two antagonist if indeed it was them on the conversation. but to make it more convincing, joey apparently admitted it was him on the other end. lozada’s voice on the other hand given his unique wavy and erratic tone is recognizable.
bad!
February 21st, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Remember Robert Kennedy was JFK’s AG and no one protested againsts that decision.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Do we need to be sarcastic in our judgement? Co-incidental ang pagiging mag ka classmate ng Ombudsman at ni FG. Nag inhibit na nga si Gutierrez sa NBN investigation ay naging subject pa rin siya ng criticism. Sino bang gusto nilang maging Ombudsman during this investigation, si Cayetano ba na even the log book in the NAIA was perceived as evidence against Lazada’s “kidnappers”? Don’t be irrational, Gutierrez is already an Ombudsman even before this NBN investigation.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Who says the ZTE hearing will stop? It must not stop and to be continued in Court or Ombudsman, enough from the Senate. Why? All of the senators are political personalities and will aspire for future political positions! There are 23 of them right? Wow! 23 souls in the senate hurling knives and swords at themselves and even to innocent people. Now, what will the media do? then let the hearing in the court or in the ombudsman be televised or in the radio also to satisfy their lust for “katotohanan at para sa taong bayan” as what ABS-CBN news is crying!
Im just wondering, these ABS-CBN reporters didnt even lift a finger,or give a slight nudge to Noli de Castro for sticking with GMA, the evil??? Hmmmm……sole beneficiary to De Castor’s presidency??? Wow, it could be in billions!
Tsk..tsk..tsk!.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:43 pm
badblockz Says:
February 21st, 2008 at 2:06 pm
johnny, uwi ka na sa pilipinas please and stay like your whole life. from here you can experience first hand the corruption et al and after that post your comments here.
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Oo nga!! It’s so easy for them to say when they do not experience first hand “kahirapan” at injustice, na kahit anong pagod mo di tumataas ang sweldo pero taas ng taas ang presyo ng bilihin, kuryente, pamasahe, telepone, tubig, etc. Sa ‘Pinas, dalawa na lang talaga ang di tumataas si Dagul at si Ate Glow.
Do what is right, walk in the light.
Moderate your greed, exterminate their breed.
We call for action, for dissent without action is consent.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:04 pm
What makes you think Pogito that your earning higher than I am? You just have no idea……
You want to know the truth?? Lozada squeals because he wants a small piece of Abalos ZTC cake, the problem is Abalos doesnt want to share his to this nobody…certainly Neri cant share his because he said PASS during serving. So Lozada went to the other bidders and offer his services and information in exchange for a cut. And guess what, we all said NO to him, poor chap he doesnt have any credibility to sell and what more extort money for something we all know he cant deliver. You feel pity for this greedy man because his life is in danger? ha ha ha lucky him…
You called me quassimodo? Is that the face you see in your mirror every morning?? Is that the reason your hiding your name under Pogito, trying to forget your real looks?? tsk tsk tskl.. Clowns do claps, they have to clap to signal people like you its time to wag your tail and smell the ass of your boss..
BTW … I have a point, actually lots of them… cant you see it?……… ha ha ha ha
February 21st, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Lozada - Shut up ( your not in the right place to testify)
Senate - Shut up ( you are causing too much trouble)
Bishops & Priest - Shut up ( just keep the people calm instead of forcing them to go to another revolution)
GMA, FG, Abalos and Co. - same innocent faces ( get your job done until 2010 and don’t think of running again.)
To all - Everyone is correct. We have our own opinion and everyone should respect that. it doesn’t matter kung saan lupalop ka ngayon coz it’s not important where you are right now.
February 21st, 2008 at 5:39 pm
I agree with Lynn. Why should Sen Kiko asks for OFW to give a share para sa mga whistleblower at sa Baclaran last night, they are asking for donations para sa mga ito.
Ang dami-daming bata na hindi kumakain, hindi makapag-aral at walang damit. Recently maraming affected ng flood sa Samar. Mas tama lang na sila ang bigyan ng pansin ng simbahan at bigyan ng donations. Ano na ba talaga itong nangyayari sa Pilipinas, mas marami ang mas nangangailangan ng tulong.
God please help us!!!
February 21st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Hoy kayo mga nagsasabi na dapat wala nang mag-imbestiga, mga bayaran kayo! Palibhasa wala nang mukhang maihaharap ang Malacanang kaya bigla kayong nagsusulputan parang kabute!
Kaya hindi umaasenso ang Pilipinas eh hindi dahil sa rally o kaya sa mga people power kundi dahil sa mga agnat na tulad nyong walang ginawa kundi umoo na lang! Ano yun? Nanakawan ka ng harapan tapos ok lang?!?
Mag-isip-isip nga kayo! Para kayong hindi utak biya!
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Hoy! Popoy!!!!
Di mo naiintindihan yang sinasabi mo!!!
Magsipatid man ang litid nyang mga Senador na yan eh di naman nila mapro-prosecute ang mga may sala!!! Di mo ba naintindihan yun…kasi di sila ang Judiciary para maghatol sa may kasalanan!!!..hanggang pagpasa lang ng batas ang function nila..
kung impeachment naman ang gusto nila eh maghintay sila ng one year since isinampa ang last impeachment sa congress…only ang Judiciary ang dapat gumawa nyan!!!
Puro sigaw sa katotohanan ang gusto pati mga Bishop at mga madre…pati studyante..at yung sinasabi na civil society!!! saan ang pagiging civil nila eh ang ginagawa nila eh lugmukin sa kahirapan at pasakayin ang mga tao…Mabuti pa ang mga Bishop at madre na lang kaya ang magpatakbo ng gobyerno gayahin nila si Gov. Ed Panlilio..kung talagang gusto nila ng katotohanan!!!Sila kaya ang tumakbo sa 2010 para hindi puro ngawa ang gawin nila…
Mali pala ang natutunan ko sa itinuro sa akin ng kaibigang kong pari kung sasang-ayon ako sa inaasal ng mga obispo ngayon..
Na ang katotohanan na hinhanap ay makakamit kung merong hustisya…kung merong due process of Law…
Mabuti pa eh buwagin na ang mga korte kung ganyan lang naman ang paraan na gusto natin sa bansang ito..at kung sa tingin mo lang o pakiramdam mo lang ang magiging basehan natin para isakdal ang inaakusahan eh..dapat baguhin na natin ang batas!!!!para ang bansa natin eh maging katulad ng Kenya, Lebanon Afghanistan at Iraq…puro patayan..Yan ba ang gusto nyo!!!
Kayo na lang!!!wag nyo na ako isama..ok may binubuhay pa akong pamilya na sa umaasa sa kada araw na kinikita ko!!!!!
February 21st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Allan, I put your post below as I am quite sure now that it is where you belong – among the bottom feeders. Now let me enlighten you.
I never missed a point, you just don’t have one.
It was a circus only because a JOKER (Arroyo, you dimwit) was on it! The clown wasn’t meant to clap, only the audience had to. It is a self serving act if the clown (or Joker) does. It means he’s beggin’ for it.
I never let the days pass me by just watching your so-called circus. I repeat, it’s only a circus because of the likes of you (and by jokers and clowns too!). I have a high paying job here and abroad Quasimodo/ Allan, in case you didn’t know.
I have no favorite senator. That’s so lame of you. Most of them were crooks too, but now they’re shining through! Kudos to them who have seen the light! That’s one thing I guess, I could not hope of you. You’re pathetic man, and pretty hopeless too!
Deceit and misdirection you say? You only have to name one. GMA – your lord and master.
Now chap, put your place on Lozada’s shoes. When your life is on the line, and all the queen’s horses and all the kings men are out to murder you, what would you do? You’ll probably be crying out for help to a God you never knew. I’m sure you’ll do because with your kind of attitude your neighbor won’t help you.
For GMA/ evil to triumph, good men must do nothing! Now ain’t that a pun?
Go now and wag your tail!
1. Allan Says:
February 20th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
I agree with you Bong and Farncis….
I got your point Mark…
Sorry Pogilito you missed the point again….
A Circus act is not complete without the clowns and the spectators who claps with mucho gusto.. We got entertained but at the end of the day it is still a circus..
Do you want your day pass you by because your busy watching the circus? Or worst would you let your life run by this circus?
Has any of your favorite senators investigated the killer diseases in the Philippines and did some investigation to combat it.?? Has anyone of them allocated their P200M pork barrel to fight ease up poverty they blame the govt causes?? I guess NONE of them did!!
The reason, it will not sell like hotcake to the media and to the people..If it will not sell, they wont be popular..if their not popular..they will not be remembered on election day…
DECEIT and MISDIRECTION is the name of their game.. and you just joined their club..
February 21st, 2008 at 2:06 pm
johnny, uwi ka na sa pilipinas please and stay like your whole life. from here you can experience first hand the corruption et al and after that post your comments here.
just my 2 cents. lol
February 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Anyone calling for the end of the Senate investigation is both naive and probably does not know how Philippine political corruption works. It was through the Senate investigation that triggered Erap’s ouster. Ideally, the Office of the Ombudsmand and the Department of Justice would investigate these matters. But because the Office of the Ombudsman is under the First Gentleman’s friend, classmate and former lawyer (Merceditas Gutierrez), any person who think that she will lift a finger needs to read more. That’s precisely the reason why GMA appointed her in case they get into trouble, Gutierrez will not pursue any investigation. Even if an investigation is under way, I bet nothing is going to happen to it. The same goes with the Department of Justice. Brown nosing Secretary Gonzales will do nothing. If these institutions were doing their jobs, Imelda Marcos, the First Gentleman, Garcialliano, Abalos, et al would have been jailed a long time ago. Because the Philippine prosecutorial system is not functioning as it should, the Senate is compelled to step and do their jobs because no one is doing it. They should just abolish these institutions and save the taxpayers their hard earned peso.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Nakakatawa ang mga comments dito, yung isa sayang-saya pa sa e-vat!!Hehehe!!Saan ba napunta mga e-vat na sinasabi mo, sa corruption.
Dagdag sila ng dagdag ng taxes sa ‘ting mga ordinaryong Pinoy para lang mabawasan ang budget deficit. Bakit ba may budget deficit, kasi gawa sila ng gawa ng project beyond our means para maka-kickback ‘pag nakautang na.
DATE: THE DOLLAR IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL SA PRICES OF COMMODITIES..
NGAYON: THE DOLLAR IS INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL SA PRICES OF COMMODITIES!!
DATE: GUMAGANDA ECONOMY EQUALS MARAMING TRABAHO AT MAY PAMBILI ANG MGA TAO.
NGAYON: GUMAGANDA ECONOMY EQUALS LALONG TUMATAAS ANG ILAW, KURYENTE, TUBIG, TELEPONO, PAMASAHE, GAMOT, TUITION FEE, EXTENDED NA EXTENDED NA Extended-VAT.
Hay, gumising nga kayo at imulat ang mga mata nyo!!
YUNG MGA OLIGARCHS SANA MAGKA-KONSYENSYA KAYO!! YOU RUN OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUR LIVES LIKE WE’RE SOME NEO, DI ‘TO MATRIX!! STOP MANEUVERING OUR LIVES, ECONOMY, AND GOVERNMENT FOR YOUR OWN FILTHY GOOD.
MAKAKARMA RIN KAYO….
February 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Pare-pareho naman sila mapa-administration o opposition man na puro corrupt. Kaya away yan ng mga corrupt.
Deep rooted na yan sa ating sistemang politikal mula pa noong unang panahon. Kaya hindi na yan big deal. Ang talagang totoong isyu dyan ay ang malinaw na pagkagahaman ng bawat pulitiko sa kapangyarihan at kayamanan. Inggitan lang yan e. Galit sila pag may nakakuha ng mas malaking nakaw kaysa sa kanila. Puro sila magnanakaw.
Ngayon nagtatawag na naman ang simbahan at iba pang mga vultures-in-waiting ng people power. Para ano? Patalsikin ang kasalukuyang nakaupo pra sila naman ang pumwesto? Karamihan sa kanila di ba pinatalsik na natin sa EDSA 1 at EDSA 2? Ngayon ibabalik ba natin sila ulit?
Paikot-ikot na lang ba ang mundo ng mamamayang Pilipino sa mga ganid at sakim na pulitiko?
Sana’y natutunan na natin ang kasaysayan ng ating mga ipinaglaban.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:06 pm
So, what else are new; Patriotic Fund, fees being asked by potential witnesses for their statements to be offered during the Senate investigation. These persons are “prostitutes”, offering their services for a fee. They will even sell their soul for fat fees. The authors of these things are right sitting there in Senate. They should all go to hell for bringing chaos to the country just to serve their own greedy needs.
February 21st, 2008 at 11:42 am
I’ve heard and have personal knowledge of bribery, corruption & dishonesty from history, more specifically from the Quirino up to the present administration; that is why people sell their votes, that is why people look for connection/lagay during business transactions, and now the ZTE investigation & claims of Lozada & opposition, propped up by ABS-CBN & some members of the clergy/”civil society” critics of the administration. Stop the investigation because as Neri says corruption is deep rooted, and it is due to our constitution where it allows little compensation of government, not ommensurate to their responsibilities. The culture of corruption has not been helped by the clergy, religious groups, & critics since time immemorial. So the solution is deeper than that of ceaseless investigations. Without a new constitution and a change in our negative culture, pare-pareho lang sila gaya n mga alleged perpetrators.
I also agree with with Jang Jang’s Feb. 2lst submission.
February 21st, 2008 at 11:41 am
Sen Pangilnan is asking the OFW to donate part ot their earnings for their patriotic fund.. My gosh asan na yung P200M na pork barrel nila kada taon? ganyan ba sila ka gahaman, pati pinag pawisan naming mga OFW gusto pa nilang kurakutan. At para kangino ito,? kay Lozada na isa rin namang kurakot. Baka milyonaryo na yan sa pangungurakot, nag da drama lang para maging mukhang kapanipaniwala, parte ng script nila. Malamang taga ABS-CBN pa writer nila. Sana naman ang simbahang Katoliko ay mag muni muni na, marami ng katoliko ang nawawalan ng pananampalataya sa simbahan dahil sa mga pinag gagawa nila. Marami ng bakanteng upuan sa simbahan tuwing may misa, at imbes na aral mula sa bibilya ang sermon nila ang mga scandal ni Arroyo ang maririnig mo. Lahat yata ng sistema ng lipunan sa atin ay papunta nasa kabulukan, gobyerno pati na ang simbahan.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:32 am
The coming of Lozada in my own simple opinion is a well plan of those who want Pres. Arroyo to step down long before… my question is… why everytime there is a whistle-blower, the name lacson is always around… either because of Lacson someone come out or he had meeting with lacson and etc… and all of the whistle blowers seek refuge at la salle… maybe the adviser or handler of the wistle-blower don’t trust that much with jesuits, el shadai, or Bro. Villanueva.. come to think of it my dear countrymen who believe right away the crying boy (lozada).. I’m jst ordinary citizen and far beyond the genius mind of our dear senators, bishops and priests. Come to think that if someone wants to commit crime, like kidnapping by all means their identity should be masked… but here comes the kidnappers of lozada, granting that people from the airport part of the plot, they have all the access to prevent the spycam to record their movements. Everytime a whistle-blower blows what they knew First Gentleman (because they cannot directly point worng doings of the president so they always hit the husband to connect to the Pres.) ) is always connected with the word “NARINIG KO PO” “sinabo po na si FG ang nag utos” and etc… haayyy naku ano ba naman yan na testimony??? Why not investigate Abalos directly to get to the bottom and let abalos blow what he knows… If senators are the investigating body of the government cabinets etc.., they tansfer to ombudsman and let ombudsman take the place of the senators.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:22 am
Thumbs up ako sa yo Mark!
February 21st, 2008 at 9:37 am
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mamang godi Says:
February 21st, 2008 at 1:52 am
Being a non-partisan citizen, here is my performance audit/evaluation of our distinguished senators and congressmen as regards to what they have done for the last ten years when Erap and GMA as presidents.
1. Congressmen - Impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.
2. Senators n - Jueteng investigation, Garci investigation, Jose Pidal investigation, Fertilizer investigation, North Rail investigation,Piatco investigation, Oakwood investigation, and NBN ZTE investigation.
one more thing… they passed a legislation that changed many streets of Manila and Makati.
at least busy.
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You meant to say, Its okay for them to rob the government coffer and not invistagate. Eh, Di magaling kon ganoon para lahat ng kurakutan nila hindi na malaman ng taong bayan. Walanghiya ka rin pala.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:37 am
The reason why the oppositions, like most senators, few congressmen( pantylist especially), black & white, ABS-CBN media and the Communist are not really that credible is that when they didnt get what they want or wish for,
they are shifting to PERSONAL ATTACKS or “PANINIRANG TAO” in the local vernacular. They’re throwing cynical attacks, even issues that should be only limited to the confines of one person’s home which is personal.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:33 am
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Mark Says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:02 am
The problem is the system. Who changes the system are the legislators. For the past several years, the same things happen. We need amendments in the procurement process, ODAs, bidding process, bot law etc. I thought these investigations are in aid of legislation. No closure happened for all the past investigations? Can the senators do the investigation quietly without tv coverage?
I admire the senators for being vigilant. You can initiate the investigation and file it immediately in the court. Your staff can monitor it or sometimes you can attend the proceedings. But you’re not suppose to overlap the function of the judiciary. The proper venue is the court. They can observe the proceedings and take down notes in aid of legislation.
And for the catholic church. Where are the billions you get from the mass services? Assuming 60million Filipinos go to mass everySunday. 40 million (adults) out of the 60 million Filipinos give 1 peso every Sunday. P40million X 52 weeks is almost P2billion pesos. If it is P5.00, that’s easliy P10billion pesos. That’s only 1 service every week. There are four masses every sunday. There are services from Monday to Saturday. You even have marriage fees, binyag, patay, etc. Just multiply it by 10, so easily, that’s 100Billion pesos per annum.
Where is this money? Catholic Church don’t pay taxes and no church ever built from own funds of the church for the past 30 years. Are these all for payroll? The catholic church owns most of the universities and is a minority stockholder of BPI. So many dormitories too. How much are allocated for the poor? How much money are given to Vatican? Can the church be transparent? How much money allocated to prevent priests from engaging in illicit affairs?
Can the senate take a look?
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Aside from the rotten system. Its the people who’s running the country need to change. If not they well keep robbing the government coffer tell kingdon come. If you remember Gloria, Went to cuba so she can learn on how to become the best dictator, And she’s doing it. Not atleast you’re blind to see it.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:30 am
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Mark Says:
February 21st, 2008 at 7:23 am
Kudos to Sen Angara for doing his job quietly. He is not after the tv exposure and quiety providing jobs to his constituents in Aurora province.
Let’s allow PGMA to finish her term. Our country deserves stability and continuity for economic reasons. Our country grew only last 2006 right after the e-vat implementation. It needs at least three years of continuity for it to materialize. The first few years of Arroyo administration were housekeeping to address the fiscal deficit inherited from the Estrada Administration. However, if her term will be extended, that’s a different story and I will be the one who will stand up just like in my college days during the time of the Marcos administration.
My challenge to the opposition is to be be united and name a reputable head to differentiate your group with the current administration. I prefer an evil that I know than an evil that is more hungry and ruthless. Disprove me and I will be one with your group in the development of our country.
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Mark: You must be really out of your ROCKER. When you said let THE FAKE PRESIDENT OF CEBU, GLORIA ARROYO, TO FINISH HER TERM IN THE OFFICE. What make you think there is an election comes 2010. Did you know that why they kick JDV and install Mr. Nogales, So that they can do whatever they want to do. Including change the constitution law; so that Gloria Arroyo, Can stay into her stolen power. And when that happen there is nothing you can do about it. As we already know she control the entire corrupt justice ststem.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:26 am
Nick Ilagan Says:
February 21st, 2008 at 3:47 am
Reading between the lines
The following phrases were uttered during the senate hearing on NBN Project, which has its own meaning as defined below:
Moderate their greed – An instruction by the reluctant official to his consultant friend to use his creativity and technical expertise to convince the greedy to take lesser kickback within the permissible zone.
Permissible Zone – A commission charged by the corrupt official, usually 20 to 22% of the original contract price. This goes unnoticed unless someone is left out.
Bubukol po ito sir – referring to commission beyond the permissible zone (see above), this would eventually explode on their faces, hence requiring the trouble-shooting expertise of Defensor, Atienza, and other government people who are willing to lie, be ridiculed in public and lose credibility in order to maintain status quo.
Police Protection – Abduction of international flight passenger avoiding customs and immigrations procedure to be taken for a joyride and dinner at a steak house for the sole purpose of preventing the witness from testifying and revealing the truth on government corruption.
Integrity – The first one to fly out the window when serving the administration. This has to be upgraded soon.
Oligarchy – System of economy in our country where the rich gets richer and the poor…well you know the rest.
Back off – A forceful instruction by the First Gentleman to the Speaker’s son not to mess with the government project that might jeopardize FG’s commission.
Don’t mess with my wife – This has nothing to do with infidelity or adultery and has no sexual undertone. It is a desperate attempt of a senator to publicly save face during the course of the cross-examination gone bad.
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Nick: You just nail it.
February 21st, 2008 at 7:23 am
Kudos to Sen Angara for doing his job quietly. He is not after the tv exposure and quiety providing jobs to his constituents in Aurora province.
Let’s allow PGMA to finish her term. Our country deserves stability and continuity for economic reasons. Our country grew only last 2006 right after the e-vat implementation. It needs at least three years of continuity for it to materialize. The first few years of Arroyo administration were housekeeping to address the fiscal deficit inherited from the Estrada Administration. However, if her term will be extended, that’s a different story and I will be the one who will stand up just like in my college days during the time of the Marcos administration.
My challenge to the opposition is to be be united and name a reputable head to differentiate your group with the current administration. I prefer an evil that I know than an evil that is more hungry and ruthless. Disprove me and I will be one with your group in the development of our country.
February 21st, 2008 at 5:02 am
The problem is the system. Who changes the system are the legislators. For the past several years, the same things happen. We need amendments in the procurement process, ODAs, bidding process, bot law etc. I thought these investigations are in aid of legislation. No closure happened for all the past investigations? Can the senators do the investigation quietly without tv coverage?
I admire the senators for being vigilant. You can initiate the investigation and file it immediately in the court. Your staff can monitor it or sometimes you can attend the proceedings. But you’re not suppose to overlap the function of the judiciary. The proper venue is the court. They can observe the proceedings and take down notes in aid of legislation.
And for the catholic church. Where are the billions you get from the mass services? Assuming 60million Filipinos go to mass everySunday. 40 million (adults) out of the 60 million Filipinos give 1 peso every Sunday. P40million X 52 weeks is almost P2billion pesos. If it is P5.00, that’s easliy P10billion pesos. That’s only 1 service every week. There are four masses every sunday. There are services from Monday to Saturday. You even have marriage fees, binyag, patay, etc. Just multiply it by 10, so easily, that’s 100Billion pesos per annum.
Where is this money? Catholic Church don’t pay taxes and no church ever built from own funds of the church for the past 30 years. Are these all for payroll? The catholic church owns most of the universities and is a minority stockholder of BPI. So many dormitories too. How much are allocated for the poor? How much money are given to Vatican? Can the church be transparent? How much money allocated to prevent priests from engaging in illicit affairs?
Can the senate take a look?
February 21st, 2008 at 4:42 am
The problem is the system. Who changes the system are the legislators. For the past several years, the same things happen. We need amendments in the procurement process, ODAs, bidding process, bot law etc. I thought these investigations are in aid of legislation. No closure happened for all the past investigations? Can the senators do the investigation quietly without tv coverage?
I admire the senators for being vigilant. You can initiate the investigation and file it immediately in the court. Your staff can monitor it or sometimes you can attend the processings. But you’re not suppose to overlap the function of the judiciary.
The proper venue is the court. They can observe the proceedings and take down notes in aid of legislation.
And for the catholic church. Where are the billions you get from the mass services? Assuming 60million Filipinos go to mass everySunday. 40 million (adults) out of the 60 million Filipinos give 1 peso every Sunday. P40million X 52 weeks is almost P2billion pesos. If it is P5.00, that’s easliy P10billion pesos. That’s only 1 service every week. There are four masses every sunday. There are services from Monday to Saturday. You even have marriage fees, binyag, patay, etc. Just multiply it by 10, so easily, that’s 100Billion pesos per annum.
Where is this money? Catholic Church don’t pay taxes and no church ever built from own funds of the church for the past 30 years. Are these all for payroll? The catholic church owns most of the universities and is a minority stockholder of BPI. So many dormitories too. How much are allocated for the poor? How much money are given to Vatican?
February 21st, 2008 at 3:53 am
Denver is right, it is like murder case. If somebody attempts to kill Mr. Nicar and on the course of action, the killer change his mind, can the killer will just say ” I am sorry, lapse of judgment”
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this is what i can say… if it is a plan, without action or no overt act, there is no crime.
there is no crime in the mind. there is no crime in what you think.
that’s why we have preliminary investigation conducted by the police or a metro judge to determine if there is prima facie evidence as studied by the prosecutor to warrant the filing of the case.
as they say, if there is no cause of action, in civil case and no prima facie in criminal, there is no case, there is no crime.
the investigation of NBN as to those knowledgeable in law is not acceptable. first there is no cause of action, as the deal was scrapped, cancelled. how can you litigate something that did not happen. the contract was voided.
so what’s the point of investigation. many are clamoring for moral truth as the priests wanted to know.
then let Lozada confess to the priests what he knows and for sure the priest will not divulge for it is privelege and sacriligeous.
let’s stop this baloney. we want to know something that did not exist. we want to know the truth, the truth of what.
that’s why we have lawyers and judges that studied the intricacies of law and they know how to apply.
our law is not based on common law or common sense but on logic and reasoning.
let us not use our emotion to condemn the government on NBN deal but let the law apply.
in short, stop the investigation.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:47 am
Reading between the lines
The following phrases were uttered during the senate hearing on NBN Project, which has its own meaning as defined below:
Moderate their greed – An instruction by the reluctant official to his consultant friend to use his creativity and technical expertise to convince the greedy to take lesser kickback within the permissible zone.
Permissible Zone – A commission charged by the corrupt official, usually 20 to 22% of the original contract price. This goes unnoticed unless someone is left out.
Bubukol po ito sir – referring to commission beyond the permissible zone (see above), this would eventually explode on their faces, hence requiring the trouble-shooting expertise of Defensor, Atienza, and other government people who are willing to lie, be ridiculed in public and lose credibility in order to maintain status quo.
Police Protection – Abduction of international flight passenger avoiding customs and immigrations procedure to be taken for a joyride and dinner at a steak house for the sole purpose of preventing the witness from testifying and revealing the truth on government corruption.
Integrity – The first one to fly out the window when serving the administration. This has to be upgraded soon.
Oligarchy – System of economy in our country where the rich gets richer and the poor…well you know the rest.
Back off – A forceful instruction by the First Gentleman to the Speaker’s son not to mess with the government project that might jeopardize FG’s commission.
Don’t mess with my wife – This has nothing to do with infidelity or adultery and has no sexual undertone. It is a desperate attempt of a senator to publicly save face during the course of the cross-examination gone bad.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:54 am
kung i aanalyze nyo, december pa pala may communication na sila Lacson, Madrigal, Lozada at Neri. Hindi malayo na ang pag punta ni Lozada sa Hongkong e design para sa isang magarbong entrada including the said “kidnapping”. Sa Pilipinas lang ako nakakita na ang mga kumidnap, nag log in sa airport, allowed ang victim na gamitin ang kanyang celfone, pakainin sa kilalang restaurant, at itanong kung saan niya ba gustong mag punta tulad ng sa Lasalle kaya. Aba, eh gusto ko ng mag pakidnap. Again, sinasabi niya na tumuloy siya sa isang magarbong hotel, nag shopping siya para daw maranasan naman niya kung ano ang mag buhay mayaman. Do you believed that crap? You can afford to play golf at wackwack, before you can play there you have to pay your dues, you can check at the club whatever the cost is, and i’m telling you it’s not cheap! You can afford to send your child to a very good school and do you think it’s also cheap? Ang masasabi ko sa taong ito, MANLOLOKO at SINUNGALING. Sabi pa niya, Pinag bantaan siya ni Abalos na wag siyang pupunta sa wackwack o sa mandaluyong dahil papatayin siya. Pero nag laro pa siya ng golf sa wackwack kahit alam niyang papatayin siya ni abalos. Napanood ko rin sa harapan nila ni abalos na sinabi ni Lozada na meron pa kayong bitbit na mga dokumento o papeles na nag sasabing nandoon siya sa wackwack, eh yun naman talaga ang tama di ba? Kung may pinag lalaban ka kailangan mo ng matibay na ebidensiya, at hindi yung basta ka na lang mag aakusa. Sana bago tayo mag padala sa bugso ng ating damdamin kilalanin muna nating mabuti kung ano bang klaseng tao ito at kung may matibay talaga siyang ebidensiya na katanggap tanggap sa korte at hindi yung klase ng tao na “nadinig ko po”, “sapalagay ko po” “maaari po”. eh diyos ko po, kahit sa kangaroo court hindi tayo mananalo. And please, sa media naman lalong lalo na ang ABS-CBN, be responsible naman, kitang kita ang pagiging biased ninyo, TFC subs. ako pero i’m so disappointed pag nag deliver na kayo ng news and views. Beaver alam kong tatay mo na si erap, pero please, maging neutral naman kayo. Naa awa ako sa mga nag bibigay ng abuloy kay Lozada, dahil malakas ang kutob ko na kahit hindi sila magbigay ng pinag hirapan nilang pera, in the end milyonaryo pa rin yan, tanong niyo na lang kila Lacson and Madrigal baka may alam sila.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:52 am
Being a non-partisan citizen, here is my performance audit/evaluation of our distinguished senators and congressmen as regards to what they have done for the last ten years when Erap and GMA as presidents.
1. Congressmen - Impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.
2. Senators n - Jueteng investigation, Garci investigation, Jose Pidal investigation, Fertilizer investigation, North Rail investigation,Piatco investigation, Oakwood investigation, and NBN ZTE investigation.
one more thing… they passed a legislation that changed many streets of Manila and Makati.
at least busy.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:46 am
To Francis
The church should be out of politics, yes. But this should have been since long time already. Now, the involvement of the church in ousting Marcos and Estrada is well done and OK, but helping to oust GMA is a political misdeed? That’s a very funny interpretation of the church’s role and duty. It is as usual, anything pro administration is OK and anything critical is criminal destabilization. Which anyway slowly but steady becomes one of the most (mis)-used words in RP. It is already worse than under Hitler and Stalin. They did not even know such a term in their rules because they did not feel so unsafe and panic driven during normal, non-war times.
How really unstable must the RP government be if any and all could destabilize it even by only verbal critics.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:27 am
Hi Johnny,
you seem to live very far from RP, maybe this is an excuse for your urging the stop of Senate investigation. Or are you in any connection with the accused?
You should know that scrapping the deal does not make criminal plannings inexistent. If you plan a murder or robbery, you are not free of guilt only because your plan has been made public and you could not do what you had planned.
Your advise to let DOJ or Ombudsman do the job of investigating, shows that you do not know anything about them or you are pro-whitewash.
The real solution to save Senate time is very simple: Scrap all the EO’s barring officials from testifying and stop all the threatening to witnesses and whistleblowers. If there is nothing to hide, there is no reason to block anyone from attending Senate hearings. Only guilty people want to stop any witness and investigation. An amount of several billions possible kickback is not something just to wipe under the carpet and foget it.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
To Corry Aquino:
Sinayang mo ang pag kakataon during your term as listed below:
1. kung hindi mo binago ang parliamentary government ni Marcos at nag talaga ka ng magaling ng Prime Minister dapat kapantay na tayo ngayun ng Singapore at Thailand at iba pa.
2. Alam naman natin na wala kang experience pero naging mataas din ang igo mo - marami kang naapakan ang resulta coup detet nila honasan (Simpli lang ang sagot dahil sa pag apply lang ng trabaho kailangan ng experience - pero ikaw suwerte mo naman naloko mo ang tao at hangang ngayun marami parin kayung naloloko)
3. Ano ang ginawa niyo sa Nuclear Plant -sinayang mo ang opotunity ng mga Pilipino (Bakit ang India nakayan nila na during that time - 1986 ay may mataas ang kalidad ng edukasyon ng Pilipinas at resppitado tayo sa boung mundo), ang sinasabi niyo noon kasama na ang magagaling na oposisyon na hindi kaya ng pinoy humawak ng ganoong Planta. - mali kayo dahil dito sa Middle East at sa iba pang lugar kilala ang pinoy pag dating sa trabaho
4. Ang Hasyinda Luisita - ano ang ginawa ninyo nakalusot kayo sa CARP, pero ang iba pinilit ibigay ang mga lupang galing pa sa ninono nila.
5. Dahil sa kagagawan ninyo at pati na sa kasalokuyang gobyerno - ang mga pinoy ay binababoy na gnayun -
6. SA pinoy - sanay magising na tayo lahat.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Can you believe this !!!!
MANILA, Philippines — Senate Majority Leader Francis Pangilinan on Wednesday urged overseas Filipino workers to donate money to the “sanctuary fund” set up by church people to finance the legal needs of whistle-blowers on government corruption activities.
These OFW are putting their lives on the line and sacrificing everything for a few pesos for their families, and here is a Senator who is asking them to donate their hard earned money to some hare-brained idea.
If this senator is that patriotic, why doesn’t he donate his own money to the cause that he believe in ?
What a shame ! ! @ Smart talaga ang Pinoy. “Better you than me.” (#@!#$^*)
February 20th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Sa mga obispo at kaparian:
linisin niyo ang sariling baho ninyo bago kayo mag linis ng iba dahil ito ang nagyayari sa mga pari na pinagtatakpan ninyo:
1. isang pari sa samar, nag asawa at napilitan umalis sa bokasyun at bumalik oli sa pag papari dahil sa financial problem - ang ginawa ng obispo pinagbayad ng pera (standard daw) at ginawang sakristan at pagkatapus ng ilang buwan pina balik sa pagpapari at nasa Cebu na assign.
2. isang pari sa Samar din galing - nakabuntis (dalawa na ang anak) at na sa Roam pa ngayun
Nakakahiya na kayo. Wala na kayung ginawang maganda sa bansa natin, lalo lang niyo hinahati ang pinoy sa kalokohan niyo.
I’m a devoted Catholic - pero sa pari wala na akung respito sa inyo.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Dapat sa ombudsman ilatag ang kaso laban sa Arroyo family dahil yan ang tamang solution sa problima.
Dibat magagaling na lawyer “daw”ang mga UP, Dela Salle at Ateneo na karamihan ay doon nanggagaling ang mga oposisyon- ngayun ninyo ipakita ang galing ninyong humawak sa kaso - wag puro dada.
Walang mangyayari sa bansa natin kung porus coup detat dahil ang susunod na mailalagay sa puwesto ay ganoon din ang gagawin ng oposisyon
Ang kailangan ay ipakaita ng magagaling natin abugado na may mahatulan at kung maari ay bitayin para maging halimbawa.
Nasira na ang buhay ng pinoy dahil sa maling paniniwala kay Corry Aquino at sa mga pare na karamihan ay makasalanan narin - sanay wag na natin olitin oli at magising tayo sa maling suhistiyon
February 20th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Hoy kayo mga nagsasabi na dapat wala nang mag-imbestiga, mga bayaran kayo! Palibhasa wala nang mukhang maihaharap ang Malacanang kaya bigla kayong nagsusulputan parang kabute!
Kaya hindi umaasenso ang Pilipinas eh hindi dahil sa rally o kaya sa mga people power kundi dahil sa mga agnat na tulad nyong walang ginawa kundi umoo na lang! Ano yun? Nanakawan ka ng harapan tapos ok lang?!?
Mag-isip-isip nga kayo! Para kayong hindi utak biya!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
I beg to disagree with Mr. Nicar. The Senate Inquiry should go on to provide answers for the people HERE IN THE PHILIPPINES and hopefully to punish, in the harshest way possible, those who think that they are above justice.
The investigation of the NBN deal is not primarily for photo op. It is there to put a name a a face to a heinous crime, that is of plundering OUR national treasury- which is made up of tax money made from the people’s blood, sweat and tears.
If you are a person trying to make an honest living, it is both very enraging and disheartening at the same time. I cannot imagine that people like him can still think of letting another crime happen without consequences.
I do hope that something will happen out of the investigation. We cannot just sit by and watch Arroyo step on our dignity by continuing to use our hard-earned money for her selfish ends. The very fact that she knew the controversy without punishing the culprit means she is in it too.
Please don’t be cowards. Our families and our future as a country is at stake. If we let them free, we only help them to kill us slowly. I hope you all understand why people like Mr. Nicar is living in another country. Unless he really loves the Philippines.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
I agree that this investigation is for publicity purposes only. At least for the so callled “presidentiables”.
Following one of our readers line of argument: “What if somebody tries to kill you and the killer changes his mind?”
Using this analogy, the attempted killer has been killed. You cannot sue a dead person.
NBN deal has been scrapped. It’s dead. To continue investigating this scrapped deal will only lead us to diplomatic issue with China.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
bong, VERBATIM! …
di na nga natuto tayo puro nalang pogi points yan! Yan namang mga tao ngayon na gusto palayasin ang mga nakaupo, yan nalang palagi sinasabi sa kahit sino mauupo dyan!! paano tayo uunlad nyan? oo nga pinagtawanan na tayo ng buong mundo… kung may paninindigan yang mga yan, sana nakita nila kung sino sino yang mga tao na nag udyok sa kanila. Tama ba yan na ang mga taong pinababa mo dati sa puesto yan ang kasama mo ngayon sa pagsigaw na naman na pababain ang isa pa. waaaaaaaaaaaaaa nahihilo ako
February 20th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
The investigation and ala drama series connected to the NBN deal has already caused so much trauma and misery to many. Many relationships have already been strained and ruined as a result of debate and quarrel on this political issue. Quarrels and debates among brothers, sisters, parents, neighbors, friends, strangers are now taking place everyday everwhere. Deaths could ensue if their debates go beyond control. The issue is over sensationalized and there is no bright and clear results to expect even if the present administration is brought down. Can we be assured that there will be no more need for another Lozada to unite and bring down any future administration or president. Do we really know the real intentions of Lozada, Joey Devenicia, Lacson and other senators why they are doing this? I don’t think they have superior morals to brag about. Will there be no more corruption. Will the senate become more productive and less political and confrontational? There is none in the horizon. We can be changing president everyday, the cause and malady is still around. The real corrupt are the people who choose our leaders. As long as they don’t stop selling their votes every election, corruption will remain with us forever. I am grieving everyday hearing the discussions, debates and investigations. All the more when the church starts to participate. I am just worried of the consequences. I am sure this will be very different already from Edsa II
February 20th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Heard of UP Law(less) students’ demands?
They are Law(less) students, and could be the future politicians of our country (i hope not). But look at their demands. The case is still under investigation and NO EVIDENCE has been presented til now to support the corruption allegation.
The function of the president is very important, and she’s working hard despite this allegations and scandals thrown to her. So demanding her to take leave, or resign is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
Ask those who are not doing their duties. Ask the Senate to take leave. The country can afford without a (non-functioning) Senate.
Ask UP to be closed indefinitely (because no one knows how long this will last) while investigation is ongoing. So they can invite more students to join their rallies (for publicity). Masyadong magagaling! Imbestigasyon pa lang, may hatol na! Is that justice?!
Obviously, these students are bias, and not far from being the future corrupt officials/politicians of our country.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
hi, I think what you have just said are true; nakakasawa na nga at para namang hindi professional ang mga senador natin kasi hanapan na lang ng gulo ang inaasikaso imbes na magkaisa sa ikakaunlad ng bayan. Yes, almost everybody in the senate is looking for loopholes na maakusa ang kalaban para walang laban sa sunod na botohan. Well, tama nga naman si Alvin, Francis and Bong. I hope more of our own kababayans will understand - kawawa naman yong mga pobreng pilipino at binibili na lang sila para mag-accord sa opinions ng mga mayayaman; ‘yong freedom nila suppressed din dahil hindi na sila nag-iisip; their own needs are more important for them. I hope we can save more our own country and people by helping one another build each other’s dignity!
February 20th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
I guess your right Allan!
To me its pure blackmail..JDV son didnt get the contract so he squeals, but how about if JDV got the contract, will there be a scandal? How about the capability of JDV3 company to deliver this contract. has anybody wonder whats JDV3 intention is?
For the aid of legislation has always been the excuse of these senators to conduct this type of investigation. But how many corruption scandals have they investigated and not a single legislation was passed to prevent this from hapenning. Probably they dont really want to legislate anti-corruption laws, it might become their own handicap when its their time to sit in Malacanang.
This senate “circus” you called should really stop, its grand standing as what Bong said it is. And this type of circus is divisive.
If there was anything fruitfull that comes out from these type of investigation in the past, i wouldnt be this negative. But sad to say, NOTHING realy change!
I read the comment of Lagdameo about the church mistake in organising EDSAII. What makes him think that what theyre doing now is not a BIGGER MISTAKE??
The church then even called EDSAII a “Divine Will” and now Lagdameo is calling it a mistake. Isnt his statement blasphemous? Just wondering@@@
February 20th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
I agree with you Bong and Farncis….
I got your point Mark…
Sorry Pogilito you missed the point again….
A Circus act is not complete without the clowns and the spectators who claps with mucho gusto.. We got entertained but at the end of the day it is still a circus..
Do you want your day pass you by because your busy watching the circus? Or worst would you let your life run by this circus?
Has any of your favorite senators investigated the killer diseases in the Philippines and did some investigation to combat it.?? Has anyone of them allocated their P200M pork barrel to fight ease up poverty they blame the govt causes?? I guess NONE of them did!!
The reason, it will not sell like hotcake to the media and to the people..If it will not sell, they wont be popular..if their not popular..they will not be remembered on election day…
DECEIT and MISDIRECTION is the name of their game.. and you just joined their club..
February 20th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
The senate investigations are doing more harm than good because there is so much politics involved in the whole process. Puro na lang tayo politica kaya hindi tayo umaasenso.
If we really want to solve the country’s problems then we should focus all our efforts in educating the voters in time for 2010. This is a job for the citizens, not for politicians who want to keep the electorate dumb and docile - because that is the only way they can win. This is what the church and civil society should be doing - lets go to the squatter areas and teach them how to choose a good leader.
The saddest thing is that in all likelihood, if we removed Gloria now, or if we hold a snap elections now - we will still end up with the usual set of characters running the country.
This country’s last hope is in 2010 - let’s find a leader we can trust and let’s make sure he/she will be elected.
February 20th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Now, we know who are those behind this so called “Lozada kidnapping scheme” and we can easily deduce who they are by reading the title of the news and giving hints to what transpired with their previous meeting with Neri. Really I was amazed by their determination to hit GMA at all costs even if employing dirty tactics. The Filipinos are intelligent enough to analyze their intention and not easily swayed to join the groups who want short cuts to grab power.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Yes Bong. You’re correct. Kaya nga nagugulat ako bakit nag aagawan sila sa kaso na yan since na subpoena na ang kaso. And ngayon naman Ayala land ang pinupuntirya ng mga loko. Nakakagulat, bat binoto ng mga tao yan. Since, walang magawang mabuti lahat yan. Di na natuto pinoy.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Eh mga Eng eng pala kayo eh… ang function ng Senado ay Legislative at may tamang paraan para resolbahin ang problema sa hustisya na hinahanap, kung hustisya at katotohanan ang hanap natin bakit di ang Judiciary ang gumawa nyan at yun naman ang function nila. Eh kung ganyan wala linabag na ng Senado ang separation ng three branches of government. Wala namang new legislation ang nagagawa mula pa ng mag-imbestiga sila sa eskandalo na yan..may mga safety net na ba para maproteksyonan ang mga project sa curruption? Yun ang asikasuhin nila at yung napipintong economic crisis worldwide..yung climate change..
Maproprosecute ba nila yung mga may kasalanan sa mga hearing na yan? Trial by publicity tuloy ang nangyayari..mabuti pa sa TV na lang gawin ang mga kaso at kung sino ang magaling magtestimonya, sya na ang tama at totoo..
Judicial branches lang ang pwedeng magprosecute ng mga may sala at di ang Senado.. naging trend na kasi yan para makakuha ng pogi points..kung walang TV mileage eh wala namang magpupursige nyan..pati yung walang kwentang mga tanong eh isinasama pa..kung talagang marunong sila eh dapat di sila biased at kung aid for legislation yan eh dapat noon pa eh napaigting na nila ang mga batas sa pag-iimplement ng mga government projects..sana masmahigpit at masprotected ang mga procurement at bidding ng mga projects.. eh asan na yun wala..kaya wala ring kwenta sila..
Ano bang truth ang hinahanap natin???
Kailangan ba sabihin mo or akuin mo na totoo ang bintang para masatisfy lang ang mga miron..or itanggi mo na di ikaw ang gumawa ..eh may maniwala naman kaya?..Ganun ba ang Hustisya?
Sa tamang venue dapat tapusin yan..hindi sa T.V, sa Senado o sa kalye..
Kaya malapit na tayong maging full pledge Banana Republic na ang mga ungoy lang ang kabilang dun.
Nakakapagod na!!!!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Bishop urges new kind of people power
The church don’t have to get involved. Instead of keeping the people united and calm, they are the one of leads this none sensible “People Power”. They are just wasting their time. The decision is not yet there. No one have proved anything yet. Can the people at least wait? I’m really tired of my country. Everyone is acting, playing and making fool of the people. Even the senate have concentrated on this things rather than doing their REAL jobs. Can you please wait for further investigation rather than crying in the streets just to get GMA out of Malacanang. Be responsible. Nakakhiya na and Pilipinas. Di lang kay GMA mangyayari to. Kahit sino pang Presidente umupo dyan, merong magrereklamo at magrereklamo. Di pwedeng laging pinapalitan. Maawa kayo sa bansa natin. Dahil nakakahiya na tayo. Kung sino pa ang mga binoto natin at kung sino pa ang nasa simbahan, kayo pa prumutor! Nakakahiya kayo! Kung wala kayo magawa. Manahimik kayo!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Only in the Philippines:
we blame the rape victim - malandi ka kasi, malaswa masyado suot mo
we blame the cellphone snatching victim - sabi na sa yo itago mo cellphone mo
we blame akyat bahay victims - kulang kasi rehas sa bintana
no wonder thieves prosper in this country. condemn everyone else except the criminals. now that’s really screwed.
don’t flush those ‘its a scrapped deal’ technicality on us partner. the deal was scrapped only AFTER the expose.
Its our money, we demand to know the truth and we demand our money be used correctly. ow wait, I see, we don’t have any right because taxes are just indulgences to winning ‘govern’ment officials? now that is taking the term government too seriously. I prefer administration - you know like we trust them to ‘administer’ OUR money.
so what? let it go? and hope it wont happen again? Oh puhlease, everyone who’ve heard of ‘I’m sorry’ and ‘let’s move on’ knows they’re not sorry and they’re just moving on to bigger crimes.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
The Senate took responsibility in doing the investigation. It seems that they have the expertise in doing this. Speed it up then! Or maybe they are delaying it for the purpose of PUBLICITY.
We know that this investigation will not be able to prove anything, but just to attract attention and create chaos.
We don’t have to tell the people repeatedly about the corruption that is happening in our country. Kakasawa na! Everyone knows that. Corruption is happening everywhere and not only in the government. Some of us may not be aware that we have done it too, and maybe still doing it.
Just PROVE all the accusations, and PROVE IT FAST!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
I agree with you Mark that an investigation must be done, but in the proper forum and personally, what the Senate is doing is veering away from legislature and bordering on trial by publicity.
Let the investigation run through the proper chanels and let us respect the findings. At this point in time, no one will win if all everyone will just discredit one another as saying that they are biased and unfair.
Let us give the justice system due respect by allowing them to do their job and not unjustly poison the well by claiming that they will rule in favor of the administration. That, to me, is the greatest injustice happening at the moment.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Allan,
I just have a question for you…
1. Kung meron nag attempt na nakawan ka tapos na bisto mo at hindi na nya tinuloy, Pababayaan mo lang siya? Di ka matatakot na gawin niya ulit yun sa iyo?
Yes it’s true there is no such charge as attempted bribery kung di natuloy kasi tinanggihan. Pero dito pinag usapan na nga kung magkano yung kikitain nila sa pera mo. OO pera mo. Tax payer ka di ba?
Masakit sa loob ko dahil Napakalaki ng taxes na binabayaran ko para lang i commission ng mga walanghiyang yan.
I agree with these investigations even if it is labeled as “investigation in aid of grandstanding” Marami namang lumitaw na katiwalian sa gobyerno. - And their scary attempts at silencing witnesses.
Kung totoo naman talagang wala silang tinatago, Then at least let that investigation prove it. - wala nang duda because of Stonewalling and cover-ups. Pahiya pa ang Mga sinasabi mong ‘Ipokritong Senador’
February 20th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
johnny,
just stay where you are.
ang ganyan pag-iisip walang pakinabang sa bayan.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Denver is right, it is like murder case. If somebody attempts to kill Mr. Nicar and on the course of action, the killer change his mind, can the killer will just say
“I am sorry, it is just a lapse in judgement”
February 20th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
1. Allan Says:
February 19th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Iagree with you Johny..
Sorry Pogito, I cant agree to you..you watch too much movies…
A scrap deal is a gone deal..no contract money changes hands no crime!!!
So lets stop this foolishness and move on..
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You don’t have to agree with me Allan. That’s the beauty of a democracy. Enjoy that while you still can.
What’s wrong with the movies? They’re much more believable than anything the Arroyo mafia could ever hatch! And it gives your money’s worth unlike if you pay Philippine tax.
I said it before and I’ll say it again: The NBN is one mannah from heaven! Shut your TV off if the scene brings you pain. What’s the matter Allan? Is your last name ABALOS too? Seeing your crooked reflection on the ghost in the shell?
I’m wide awake pal and have been trying to get past your enchanted kingdom! And I have a life too – muh better than yours I supposed. But I’m willing to bet that on Lozada too if that would help turn the tide. 80Million cowards to 1 SOB – the odds are not good. But BRING IT ON!!!!
And don’t bother about the catholic church, they have their own business to run. They could shift in the movies if they want but that is not for you and me to say!
Now ain’t this fun? My Indian friend used to chant “Kutch kutch hota hei!” Slowly but surely, something’s happening!
Enjoy that while you can!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Kaya hindi gumagana yung justice system natin kasi pinapakialaman ng mga kulang sa pansin na senador ang trabaho ng sandiganbayan.
Gusto kasi ngm mga senador na ito na parating nasa limelight at laman ng tabloid kundi makakalimutan na sila ng mga botante. Kitang kita namang kagaguhan itong NBN imvestigation na ito.
Nag uubos sila ng oras sa bagay na hindi naman nangyari, na consumate ba yung deal??? ano krimen dun?? wala na kasi silang maisip na scandal kaya lahat pinapatulan para lang maging laman sila ng news.
May senador kanaba na narinig na tumulong magpagamot sa may mga sakit, o nag sponsor ng isang mahirap na pamilya para makaahon sa kahirapan…WALAA!!!
Ganyan katanga yung mga taong naniniwala sa mga impokrito na senador nayan….
February 20th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Justice is “just tiis.” Sa mga mayayaman lang ang justice, sa mahirap “just tiis sa kulungan.”
Corruption is the disease that is gnawing our society.
Sa totoo lang, wala akong binoto sa mga sinasabi nyong nag-gagrandstanding sa Senado (Cayetano, Madrigal, Lacson, Estrada, Legarda, et. al., isa lang (Joker A) at nadisappoint pa ko sa kanya.. tsk. tsk.
It’s the senate’s job, pabayaan n’yo sila. By their inquiry, marami kaming information, laws, corruption, and vocabularies na nalalaman!
Kung sa korte, puro jargons lang at sila lang ang nakakaintindi, palpak nga yung preliminary na ginawa nila. Pakitang-tao lang.
Hail, hail to the Senate of the Republic of the Philippines!!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Michael via post #23 has stated exactly my thoughts on the Catholic Church. I would like to add that although the Church is not totally responsible for all of our ills in government, they certainly helped nuture society into the Governmental “status quo” we enjoy today by being politically active. The thinking get rid of evil. The reality is all that has happened including the famous actions of “Cardinal Sin” is we toss one bad egg and hatch another bad egg.
If the Church is really serious… then during the next election in 2010 make sure they are standing by staying no to corruption vs standing in line for the paid per Vote money.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Hmm… that would be the easy way out. Sometimes we just have to face the fact that the Senate also has powers to overlook what is happening in the government. Apparently Mr. Nicar would also be ok when people who plan to kill him not be liable for anything because they haven’t killed him yet or their plan was postponed. Right Mr. Nicar? Or in a lighter scenario, if they plan to steal your money but haven’t done it yet, that would be definitely ok with you right? Would you change your mind if they almost killed you or almost stole your money? I guess not. Right Mr. Nicar?
Do you really think that people who will get away with the NBN deal stop at doing what they do? They are career men. Careers bent on getting rich through corruption in the government. Mr. Abalos would probably be the epitome of that right now.
There wouldn’t be a need for a very long controversial investigation if people would answer questions directly. Some say its politics, I say its just a simple question and answer portion. It just became politics when people dont want to answer simple questions and so they develop the clout that they are hiding something. Naturally, others want to dig into what’s hidden.
How hard is it to answer questions? It’s so simple. If you don’t have nothing to hide and if you are doing your job right, things would be very straightforward. Politics wouldn’t be the type of politics we have now if the government would just tell the Filipino people the truth without any twists. Transparency.
Just tell us the truth. We haven’t judged the government although it is starting to get obvious that there is something fishy with them. Only people like Mr. Nicar do not have the open mind to see that there is. The only hope is that something good comes out with the senate investigation like a law to strengthen the procurement procedures, security of our basic rights as filipinos, and to increase transparency.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Michael……you have expressed the core of one of the problems. You have succintly lay it thick like it is and I do hope those Bishops sitting in their mighty throne will realized that they are not doing anythng for the welfare of the people that they should be serving. Politics and government are not their calling. Serving the poor, helping the sick and giving the people moral responsibilities is one of their vows, Not politics.
From the writings of Dr. Jose Rizal about those Friars, to the present Catholic hierarchy, not much has been change. The personnels are Filipinos, but the Modus Operandi are the same.
They are sending Nuns to the street to demostrate, pronouncing their politics in the church pulpit, but never for one fleeing moment do they mentioned what they want to do for the poor people of our nations.
Now the Bishops want a new kind of People Power. Please…give us a break !
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February 20th, 2008 at 9:27 am
It should be put to a stop, endorse it to the court and be vigilant to the court’s decision and PUT A PREMIUM ON THE CHEAPER MEDICINES BILL, these are one of the bills that the people really need.
Too much of this NBN deal that is already scrapped anyway. The Senators had achieved a goal already by not letting the NBN deal push thru, so whats the other “news” here? Purely for political and for personal interest!
Pogito, if you want to sink to hell, bring Lacson, Madrigal, Failon, Sanchez, Black & White and the Communist group with you!
February 20th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Is this guy for real? Or does he have a non-passing IQ? So far, this is the only way to ferret out the truth in the Philippines. Kudos to the senate.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:42 am
Recent and not so recent corruption allegations in the Arroyo administration are matters that indeed warrant social, political and even religious upheavals in the country. Once again, the country is embroiled in controversy one starts to wonder if we would ever learn, as a nation, the lessons of history and finally grow up as a people. Corruption is not unique in the Arroyo administration. This is the reason why the Estrada administration was booted out of power. Ramos had his own share, alleged or otherwise. The Aquino government endured seven coup attempts for the very same reason and by the same personalities that perpetrated the invention of the EDSA revolution. There was much of it in the Marcos era, but neither the old man could be credited for introducing it as an institution.
Once again, we are engaged in an historic process we are fast becoming eerily too familiar with. Once gain, and on cue, the Catholic hierarchy is rallying around the standard and church bells are sounding loud and frantic. For the Catholic hierarchy, it is easy and convenient passing judgment on the Arroyo government- it has done so with previous ones. It is always more convenient, it seems, on its part to punish than proselyte. Why don’t we dare, once again, to take a closer look at our condition as a society and as a nation? Where did it start in the first place? Corruption in government is as old as Catholic friars fattening their bellies at the expense of the Filipino people. While there may have been changes, these changes have never really got rid of the core problems that plagued not only government but society. There was a change of people but not in the people. It is painful to see that most of the personalities involved in both present and past corruption controversies are Catholics. More than the Catholic hierarchy’s call for a need to make changes in the government is the need to make changes in the way the Catholic Church in the Philippines perceives its critical role in nation-building: Proselyte. Stop meddling in politics and engage in what it should have always done in the first place. The Catholic hierarchy should rally its foot-soldiers and reach out to homes preaching morals instead of sending them to Senate halls and indignation rallies shouting resignation demands. Otherwise, it is just going to be a long & wretched vicious cycle. Catholic priests and nuns in the Philippines could and should not feel worthy enough to go out in the streets and condemn the present administration. They should feel humbled and shamed. While it is clear from obvious indications that the Arroyo government has failed, it should also be incumbent on our part to admit to an inconvenient and not-so-obvious truth: the Catholic Church in the Philippines has failed- big time. It is time for the Catholic Church to mend its ways and go back to its ordination and ministry: proselyte and nurture its parishioners. Everything else should follow.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:09 am
It is apparent that the Senators in the Blue Ribbon committee are squeezing every drop of publicity that they can extract from Lozada;.. who is just too willing to sing any song that the committee members wants to hear for public consumption. If you kook closly at the picutre of Lozada, he is gloating in the spotlight. His 15 minutes of fame or whatever you want to call it should be over by now.
BTW, that Senate hearing is supposed to be in “aid of legislation” and not for witch hunting as it is turning out to be.
I agree that it is the Justice Department who should take over as it is their duty to do so, and not the Senate.
It is so easy to throw charges left and right to anybody, but to prove those charges is another story. Our justice system is working fine. It might be slow and with some faults, but it is working just fine. Our democracy is working, but there are people who are doing their best to derail it.
Have you ever wonder what will happen to Lozada when this Zarzuela is over? I would pressumed that the Justice Dept. will look closely into all his “bad decisions” before he decided to “save his soul.”
Alain
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February 20th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Hey Johnny, have you ever heard of “checks and balances?” That’s why we have 3 branches of government. Sure some of our senators here are grandstanding, but hey, they are still doing their duty. This NBN thing is just one of numerous kickback-laden money-making schemes of the executive department. There surely are an awful lot more. Now, we can’t just sit back and pretend nothing’s happening eh? Take it court, you say? With a Justice department chief like Gonzalez?!? You’ve got to be kidding. So listen. Why don’t you just stay comfy there in Surrey and sing “Oh Canada” eh?
February 20th, 2008 at 7:02 am
The Senate now has the dubious well earned title of “Circus.” It is very apparent that Jun Lozada is just one of the starring puppets in the ongoing performance. The Nations Business has been put on hold once again for those in power to obtain what ever political mileage they can get out of the daily matinée being shown “for free” to all who will dedicate the wasted time. The sooner the Senate ends the endless fiasco the better off we will be as a nation. Post a timeline sequence of NBN-ZTE meeting / events / milestones and END IT! We will all thank you.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:01 am
Don’t be fooled by the investigation that the Department of Justice is doing, the department’s name is an injustice to itself (it is actually a misnomer). And that goes also for the Ombudsman.
If you’re following closely, I mean closely, the proceedings here, it would lead you to believe that those two government-backed investigations are obviously the one just for publicity, i.e. to meddle up the proceedings of the Senate inquiry. It was also noted that the first hearing of the Office of the Ombudsman was so hastily set-up that the presiding person doesn’t know how to proceed with it.
There are so many questions begging for answers here. Why would involved people, specially Neri, agree to go to the government-backed hearings/investigation but shoo away from the Senate if what they’ll gonna tell is the truth and nothing but the truth? Why is the knee-jerk reaction of the government is to attack the whistle-blower instead of checking first if there are some meat on his statements? Why the stupid reasons being given by government people on varying issues like they insisting that Lozada asked for protection when he himself (and his family) is saying that he didn’t, that the P500K is given for Lozada so that he can buy some warm clothes in Hongkong (Is he going to buy an Armani???), the supposed threat for Arroyo coming from a security guard in a parking lot???, answers from Neri which doesn’t categorically denying Lozada’s testimony but stopping short on saying that it is true, etc.
What do we have as an option to know the truth?
The senate may not be the ultimate impartial court but it’s the closest thing we have for the chance to know the truth. And in my humble opinion, Lozada has never waivered in all the hearings and remained consistent to further bolster his credibility.
If you, halfway around the world, is getting tired of all these, can you imagine our situation. But we can’t get tired in the pursuit of truth, specially if our pursuit is being impeded by the powers that be.
Me, I’ll never get tired…
“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”
- V
February 20th, 2008 at 4:36 am
Johnny, you are so naive my man. You want the DOJ and OMBUDSMAN to take over. This is just like throwing yourself to the lions’ den. You are a fool. Have you not been reading all the news on how the DOJ and Ombudsman offices are doing. NOTHING! exactly nothing, you know why, because the people in these two offices are all appointed by GMA. There were appointed to do cover up, and what is required by the jobs.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:21 am
yes, stop the senate’s wasting of precious money from the taxpayer, it is just the same old drama, same old ugly faces, sometimes i don’t like to read the newspaper anymore… i get high blood! i wish in the Philippines there would really be a separation of church and state as provided for in the constitution.. when i read in the newspaper about Lozada’s ‘abduction’ , that he is being escorted by the nuns ( i saw that drama already before)
AND SEE Cory Aquino, Drilon, etc. at La Salle, oh my what is new? NOTHING NOTHING JUST POLITICKING, TAMA NA, NAKAKASAWA NA. BULOK NA ANG GIMMICK NA YAN. SINO BA SA MGA PULITIKO SA PILIPINAS ANG MALINIS? SIGE NGA, HUWAG KAYONG MAGMALINIS, ALL OF YOU HAVE SKELETONS IN YOUR CLOSET, WHY DON’T YOU LOOK AT YOURSELVES FIRST ? EVEN THE PRIESTS, HOW CLEAN ARE YOU?
AND TO MR LOZADA, HOW CREDIBLE ARE YOU?
February 20th, 2008 at 2:32 am
Let the Ombudsman or the Department on Justice take over the investigation from the senate? Are you kidding?
The ZTE-NBN anomaly became highly publicized as early as September last year. The senate started its investigation almost immediately then. What did the Ombudsman or the DOJ do? Nothing!
And now, they have started their own investigation — just when things are turning hot! So now, you want the senate to stop its investigation and turn over everything to the Ombudsman and the DOJ?
Call the senators grandstanders and positioners for the 2010 elections — I’ll respect your opinion — they’re doing something at least. This investigation is part of their constitutional mandate.
Now what do you call the Ombudsman and the DOJ who have just started their own investigation? Do you expect they will be fair and impartial? They’re probably out to railroad everything and help in the cover-up of this mess?
February 20th, 2008 at 1:12 am
Stop the investigation. That’s a very good idea.
let the real investigators who have the expertise in their field do the work.
let the ombudsman, the sandigan, the police handle this kind of job.
and let the senate do their job, introduce a bill, pass the bill into law or amend existing law. this is their expertise and this is where the people voted them to legislate.
among the 3 branches of the government, only the Executive, the president and her cabinets are doing their job by implementing what is to be implemented as we see all the projects, the social welfare work and etc. etc;
the judiciary, who for all we know are the interpreter of laws and we can see how many cases are being tried by the courts.
how about the legislative branch of government? aside from changing street names and senate investigation, i have not seen any laws that redound to the benefit of the country and its people.
a non performing branch of the government but always in the limelight.
enough of investigation… buckle down to work.
February 20th, 2008 at 1:09 am
Johnny,
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on human face, forever.
That’s Arroyo and the Filipino race!
She can shut every mouth, BUT THE SENATE! She can bribe everyone BUT THE SENATE! She loves POWER more than PEOPLE. That is why I would rather let the Senate do it than impede justice!
I need not enumerate the countless scandal Arroyo has been involved in for you to see the point! It’s a nobrainer!
If I were you, I would rather pray for our nation and seek justice for the entire Filipino race!
merci!
February 20th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Pogito said it best!
There is no justice in the Philippines. See, Arroyo has full control of the military, the congress, the judiciary,,, everyone BUT the Senate.
If there’s no one who would step out and question the controversy, this country is rather autocratic than democratic!
I am a neutralized Canadian like you, Johnny. But my heart is still a Filipino and I would do everything to fight for justice in our native land! I’ve been following the NBN saga closely and I laud the Senate especially Sen. Cayetano, Madrigal, Estrada and Lacson for making the entire trial as inquisitive as possible!
Everything seems right until there’s an opposition!
February 19th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Johnny, how about the administration ending their corruption, or better yet ending their terms of office right now.
What let the Department of Injustice take over? You must be joking. Where do you live? Don’t you know the events happening in the Philippines? Oh yeah right you’re in “Canada.”
You assume that there will be an election this 2010. If the Filipinos are not careful there will be none and this administration will set themselves as rulers for life.
February 19th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Johnny, how about the administration ending their corruption; or better yet ending their terms of office right now.
What let the Department of Injustice take over? You must be joking. Where do you live? Don’t you know the events happening in the Philippines? Oh yeah right you’re in “Canada.”
You assume that there will be an election this 2010. If the Filipinos are not careful there will be none and this administration will set themselves as rulers for life.
February 19th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Iagree with you Johny..
Sorry Pogito, I cant agree to you..you watch too much movies…
A scrap deal is a gone deal..no contract money changes hands no crime!!!
So lets stop this foolishness and move on..
This bandwagon is already filled up to the rim with familiar,, similar intent GREED..ATTENTION…
If you applaud whats these stupid senators are doing then youre one of the few Pinoys got DUPED..After the Filipino rise up again in that doomsday thing your saying..the subject of the next senate investigation will be the corruption done by the senators doing the investigation now..
So wake up pal..get a life..and you will learn to ignore this bullshit the senate is doing…
And for the religous community ..havent anyone of them did a count on how many catholics have joined Inglesia NI Kristo in the past decade??? The Catholic Church should start thinking building smaller churches…too many empty seats…
February 19th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
One more thing…….how could these circus end while media is playing it to the full and all praises to these whistle blowers, especially, ABS-CBN network, You can notice in their news that they are almost consuming all their airtime on the story of the ZTE deal, putting a little premium on the state of the economy, the calamity in Eastern Samar, etc. Thats why to all TFC subscribers abroad, think twice if your watching ABS-CBN news as they are bias in their news reporting. They are really motivated to insinuate the country have another “peoples power” on the streets.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Truth and justice seeking Filipinos should not allow any shallow argument that would terminate the ongoing Senate hearing on the $ 329 million National Broadband Network (NBN) deal. Terminating it is like allowing the president resident evil in Malacañang to score a walk-in-the park escape.
It is high time to unravel what Mr. Neri described as the ecosystem or web corruption in the Macapagal-Arroyo presidency with the Chief Executive herself as the epicenter of earth shocking, outraging crimes of corruption in the government.
But with or without Mr. Neri’s cooperation, the truth will come out with the vigilant people doing their work and assignment in the name of their collective interest and national dignity as people.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
You have a point Pogito. And it sounds like you’ve been to hell and not afraid to get back there.
Angel or Devil? One is saying stop this. The other one is saying, go on……. do not stop.
Who is more powerful? Watch out!
February 19th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
You hit the nail in the head, its been a tiring scene and it is becoming attacks against personalities and not focusing on the corruption issue. As long as the issue is always “GMA in bad light”, political vultures are out there to devour every pieces, even petty words like “evil” can make a big story by those with unscrupulous minds who have nothing for the people but to position themselves in the Philippine bureaucracy! Im not going to wonder if that “evil” statement will become another investigation in the Senate, anyone to testify???
February 19th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Tama kayo diyan. It’s about time that this whole bruhaha should stop. I remember what Dick Gordon insinuated during the last hearing; that after all that was said and done, what next? I still have to be proven wrong, but the fact remains that NOTHING WILL HAPPEN! At the end of the day, what do we have? we will have a group of overbearing senators with overly bloated egos patting each others’ back as if to say, “we have done well here, we can do this better in the BIG SCREEN!” We will have the sacrificial lamb in the person of Mr. Jun Lozada who, after virtually stripping himself and his vile in public, will be left alone, unattended and unprotected from the wrath of his tormentors. We will still have the likes of the erstwhile speaker JDV and his namesake Jose de Venecia, who, after failing to bag both the NBN deal and the speakership of the house, now clamors for a “moral revolution”, a revolution that should really start from them. We have the biased media, airing their prejudiced comments, invoking all everything in the interest of free speech, just so as to add on to their daily ratings and subsequently, their income. Ang huli, sino ang talo at ang maiiwan dito? tayong lahat na patuloy na nanonood sa circus na ito!
February 19th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
IT is sad WE live in the society where money is he very CORE of survival,BUT are all the government official are just GREEDY BUNCH of money grubbing gluttons.??hello we are all here not just you we need your services do it and do it with less intent of stealling .the subject now is not guilt but being in power where the rule of law is selective,that is why this people are clinging on their post regardless of everything because if you are in power ,you have the law on your side.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Right thinking Filipinos could readily see that the motives of some Senators for the continuing Senate investigations on the ZTE-NBN is not solely in seeking for the truth in aid of legislation but in bolstering their chances for their selfish Presidential ambitions in 2010. The Senators were elected by the people with their main functions of formulating laws that could help alleviate the plight of poor Filipinos. But it seems that the big budget of the Senate amounting to billions of pesos was wasted with their constant grandstanding and early politicking. I urge the Senators to display statesmanship. Enough of political bickerings, unproven and malicious accusations which tend to further promote divisiveness. Let us all seek peace, work very hard and unite as a people for a better Philippines.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
I beg to disagree Johnny! We are in a quagmire back home in case that is not evident from where you sit. There is no Justice department here - unless you consider puppets sitting there. Stretch your mind a bit even if your comfortably tucked in your bed. it’s a different reality from where you are.
The NBN probe is one of those good things that ever happened to this god forsaken land. I say let flourish, let it bloom. Let it be a catalyst for a change we have so longed for. Come heaven or hell, it’s better than the republic Arroyo has to offer.
Let the NBN bury us all. And when the evil that is Arroyo is purged, the Filipino could finally rise out of the rubble.
That is why I beg to disagree, Johnny!
February 19th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
I agree with you pal.
If they believe in the law (they should, they are senators,.. the legislators), they should respect it.
It’s getting obvious that they doing this for publicity. Other sectors join in for the same reason i think. Imagine… TV, newspaper, tabloids, radio, etc.