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On Abalos calling Lozada a liar

02/22/08

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62 Responses to “On Abalos calling Lozada a liar”

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Tholits Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Alam nyo po ang magagaling nating mga senador at kongresista, mga Taong gobyerno po yan, bakit hindi nila gamitin ang kanilang karapatan para tumulong sa mahihirap at hindi gamitin ang pondo para sa mga ralyista sa kalsada.

Kasi po pag tumulong cla ang papuri ay sa Pangulo kasi umuunti ang naghihirap, kaya ayaw nila gawin yon may mga sariling din clang agenda para sa kanilang mga sarili na naghahangad na maging Pangulo din.

PGMA handa kaming ipagtaggol ka sa daming mo nang naipagawa dito sa ating Bansa na Proyekto, sa mga naging Pressidenti ng bansa wala naman cla nagawa kundi mamasyal sa ibang bansa,

Mga taga manila lang naman ang gustong magwalanghiya sa gobyerno kasi, luluwas ng manila kala maganmda ang buhay dun, tapos pag alang makain sa Pangulo ang sisi, walang na ngang pinag aralan anak pa ng anak. sisi sa pangulo hawak ba ng pangulo ang buhay nyo kung tamad at pabaya kayo para mapaangat ang buhay nyo…………
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Tholits Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
PGMA, Saludo po ang Batangas sa inyong galing bilang isang magaling na lider na di natitinag sa mga crab na Pilipino.
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Tholits Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Maniwala kayo kay Lozada, cguro kaunti lang din ang kanyang commissions kaya ganyan yan.
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Alvin Says:
March 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 am
Adios Pandak, puro ka kasinungalingan! Tulad ka ng amo mong si Hudas.

Kung marami na palang proofs na nagnakaw si PGMA, bakit di pa rin naco-convict? Napaka-BOBO ba ng mga OPPOSITION at nga mga FOLLOWERS na tulad MO?!

Sinagot ko na ang tanong ni Jun Pindot sa unang post ko. At mukhang nainitindihan na nya ang paliwanag ko. Sinabi ko na hindl lang ang US$ ang dapat pagbatayan ng paglakas ng piso, kundi ang ibang currency rates din.
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Adios Pandak Says:
March 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
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Boying Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
The issue here is not about credibility. The issue here is about proof. A person becomes credible only when you hear things you want to hear from him/her. Obviously, if you do not want what a person is talking about, he/she is not credible.

Erap was convicted of plunder because prosecutors were able to prove his guilt through evidence presented before the proper court of justice.

As far as GMA is concerned, nothing has been proven yet.

Puro sabi nito, sabi niya. Ayon sa kanya. Narinig ko po.

What is so interesting here, nobody is directly linking GMA to all these alleged anomalies. It’s either Mr. Arroyo or the members of her cabinet are being linked to corruption.

If this is how things work, how come we did not send one of Erap’s wives to jail (or to Tanay) with him. We have several choices. Si Loi, Guia or Laarni. Bakit hindi isinama ang mga ito? O kaya members of his cabinet.

Chain of command? Kapag nagnakaw and anak, dapat ikulong and magulang or vice versa? Payag ako diyan. Walang matitira sa lahi ng mga senador at kongresman.
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THERE IS PROOF ALREADY THAT GLORIA ARROYO, ET AL. ARE ROBBING THE GOVERNMENT COFFER. HELLO GARCI. HELLO, JOC JOC, BOLANTE, HELLO, ZTE/NBN. HELLO, DIOSDADO MACAPAGAL HIGHWAY. HELLO, JOSE PIDAL. HELLO, IMPSA DEAL. HELLO. HELLO, CUCUNOT LEVEY. MARCOS MONEY, MARCOS MONEY THAT TOO SHE SPEED IT. MARCOS MONEY IT SHOULD PUT BACK IN GOVERNMENT COFFER. THAT TOO, THEY SPEED IT, IF NOT ITS IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE. HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, OKAY KA LANG BA DIYAN.
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Adios Pandak Says:
March 1st, 2008 at 8:14 pm
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Art Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 12:41 am
From the looks of the president today,it seems shes not getting any sleep.she has big eyebugs.Her sons kinda nervous.Her husband looks goofy.What is happening to the first family?We know they cannot hold on to thier power that long.Sayang madam president,im sure your father is ashame of you…You will be remembered in our history,your childrens children will suffer the consequense-karma will be with them forever,just like the marcoses,estrada and the rest of the thieves….even for our local politicians.
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Art: they don’t care if they loss sleep over the prayer rally because they already succeeded on robbing the government coffer for over seven years. Its the taxespayer’s money they’re stealing, Its the taxespayer’s money paying her salary, I’ll say, Get rid of her. Its a waste of taxespayer’s money paying her salary. DITCH HER OUT.
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Adios Pandak Says:
March 1st, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Jun Pindot Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 5:05 am
Tama ka Alvin, tumingin tayo sa liwanag at sa katotohanan na tayong lahat, kasama ka doon, sa ayaw mo at hindi, ay matagal nang pinagnanakawan, ginagago, at ginagahasa ng mga Arroyo.

What is your basis for this “fact” of yours that the rising peso is not directly an effect of the sinking dollar?

Ipaliwanag mo sa amin na mga mangmang, o kagalang-galang na Pantas ng Ekonomiya.
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I’ll bet you, He won’t be able to explain it, Because they’re both liar like Gloria Arroyo!

the so call booming economy Gloria Arroyo, Bragging about nothing but PAD just like she PAD her votes in May 10, 2004. Presidential election against Fernando Poe, Jr.

Its true the Peso went up against the dollar, Not because Gloria Arroyo, Hard work. Its because of the U.S. economy!

Its true, The peso went up against the dollar but yon bilihin also went up! yon peso mo wala kang mabili. Sige nga, Try to explain this. So call rosy economy Gloria Arroyo, Bragging about. She sold just about every Government Properties in order to plug the budget depecit. How can you justify that.
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alvin Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Ang kwento, kapag hindi isinulat at ito’y binigkas lang, kapag nagpasalin-salin, ay hindi magiging eksakto at hindi magiging kasintulad ng unang version.

Maaaring nadagdagan, nabawasan, o mali ang interpretasyon.

Ganyan ang CHISMIS na pwedeng maihantulad sa mga kwento ni Lozada.
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alvin Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Sigaw ng mga anti-Arroyo (kasama si Lozada), “WE WANT THE TRUTH !”

Sagot si Lozada (di nakatiis), “MGA UTU-UTO! ANG DALI NYONG MAPANIWALA! YAN ANG TOTOO MGA UNGAS! “
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Pogito Says:
February 28th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
GMA and Fat boy Fat Pidal, ABalos, Nograles, Gonzales, Garci et al, take your pick! A CROOK BY ANY OTHER NAME IS JUST AS CROOKED!

GMA: Hello Garci, are we there yet?

GARCI: Yes Madame Evil GMA, No sweat.

GMA: A million vote, este… thanks pala!

Years later…

GMA: ZTE is flawed… este what I was sayin’ is lost in translation. Let us asked CBCP for guidance. They are after all but men in robes… Fill their coffers…

CBCP: Hurray! GMA shall lead the fight vs. corruption. She’ll get away with everything with “NERI” a scratch!

FOOLS! It’s NERO burning ROME all over again. A crook by any other name is just as crooked!
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John Says:
February 28th, 2008 at 12:07 am
Jun Pindot, tulad ng sinabi ko, huwag mong pagbasehan ang US$ lang. Ako ay OFW at hindi US$ ang sinasahod ko. Bumaba ang palitan ng currency na sinasahod ko dahil sa lakas ng piso at hindi dahil bagsak ang ekonomiya dito.

Gets mo na ba?
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Jun Pindot Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 5:05 am
Tama ka Alvin, tumingin tayo sa liwanag at sa katotohanan na tayong lahat, kasama ka doon, sa ayaw mo at hindi, ay matagal nang pinagnanakawan, ginagago, at ginagahasa ng mga Arroyo.

What is your basis for this “fact” of yours that the rising peso is not directly an effect of the sinking dollar?

Ipaliwanag mo sa amin na mga mangmang, o kagalang-galang na Pantas ng Ekonomiya.
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msott Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Ikaw ba ay isang ekonomista at gaano ang kaalaman mo sa pag papatakbo ng ekonomiya. …tanong ni Alex Reyes.

Sagot ko naman, Bakit ang pagpapatakbo ba ng ekonomiya ay katulad ng pagpapatakbo ng kabayo? Tinatakpan ang mata ng kabayo, sinasakyan, at pinapalo ang pobreng bansa upang di makita kung saan ang kahahantungan ng isang bansang pinamumunuan ng mga sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw at mga walang hiya. Ano ang kahahantungan ng isang bansang ang namumuno ay wala ng ginawa kungdi mangutang sa ibang bansa at mamalimos kaliwa’t kanan, at magpalamang sa mga banyaga para lang mag ka-commission ng limpak limpak. Sinira ang copya ng kasunduang nilagdaan dahil may mga mali daw…at tinatanggap naman ang kasinungalingang ito ng mga kapwa niya mga sinungaling at manlolokong mga gobernador, mga mayor ng mga local government, mga abogago, at mga economista daw mula sa the bestest universidad ng mundo. Tama na ang panloloko!!!

Show that we are willing to solve the problems of the Philippines by starting with us….stop believing what are outrageously lies. The proof that we are changing our mga Pagkatao deserving of our Bayan is when we decide to stand firm in rejecting a government founded on lies, cheating, and corruption. Join the growing throng of Filipinos who are now speaking up dahil sobra na!!!!
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msott Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Efren Ranile Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 10:26 am
….The ZTE scandal is just another monster that almost sucked the nation’s blood, but how about corruption in the local governments, the legislator’s pork barrels? the corrupt courts and police? are we just everytime having fun on changing presidents? this is just one branch of the rotten tree, how about the roots? are we just letting it to grow again?…

Efren Narile is asking the fundamental question that many Filipinos are alluding to….HOW ABOUT OUR PAGKATAO? WHO ARE THESE FILIPINOS WHO SHAMELESSLY PUT UP THEIR FACE FRONTAL FOR PUBLIC VIEWS WHEN ALL THEY DO IS LIE AND DUPE THE PEOPLE?

Should we be surprised that so many governors of the Philippines’ provinces are standing behind GMA? BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER…AND THE SAD FACT IS THAT WHILE AMONG FILIPINOS WE CANNOT TELL WHO’S WHO SINCE THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE…UNDISTINGUISHABLE FROM ONE ANOTHER. ALL ARE DEGREED, GRADUATES OF PRESTIGIOUS UNIVERSITIES, LOCALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY; ALL PIOUSLY SAY THEIR ROSARIES; AND SHAMELESSLY, SOME ARE EVEN CALLING FOR A ‘MORAL RENEWAL’ WHILE HOLDING HIS TONGUE FOR CONDITIONS BEFORE TELLING WHAT HE ALREADY KNEW. THEY ARE ALL LIARS, DIFFERING ONLY IN DEGREE. WHETHER ONE STOLE A CENT OR A MILLION, HE IS JUST THE SAME, A THIEF!!
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Mike Rikets Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Now Abalos is planning to go out of the country, I think the Senate should ask the Supreme Court to freeze all the assests of those involved and accused in this ZTE deal up until the senate hearing is over. I may have a dirty mind thinking those accused are trying to move their questionable wealth somewhere else but its better than trying to run after them when they’re found guilty later on.
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romarico gaspar Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
kakaiba ang gobyerno natin madaming bida at kontra. wala namang masama kapag para sa kabutihan ng nakararami ang goal. correction po! nakraraming taungbayan hindi kamaganak, kakampi or ka anib.

tandaan po natin kahit anong away ok lang basta lang po walang patayan. kinabukasan tayo rin po ang magtulungan.

Ang karunungan ay gamitin sa kabutihan para sa taungbayan. kapag ginamit ito para yumaman sa maling paraan, iyan na po ang umpisa ng bangayan.

Ang ‘pinas ay halos nabubuhay sa utang. pero kita mo ang daming gustong maging politiko. magsabi nga tayo ng politiko na pagkatapos ng termino hindi naging milyonaryo? huh… bilang sa daliri mo.

ano kaya kapag wala ng magpautang sa ‘pinas meron pa kayang may gustong maging politiko? konti na lang at diyan mo na makikita kung sino talaga ang tunay na nagmamahal sa bayan.

back to basic po tayo. saan na yung mga katuruan nating pilipino?huwag magnakaw! kapag ito ang nasa puso ng bawat politiko mula kay kapitan hanggang kay pangulo, tiyak daig natin ang mga nangungunang bansa ngayon. mahirap bang gawin? talagang mahirap…pero tandaan mo kapatid walang imposible kapag kasama natin ang diyos sa anumang mabuting hangarin.
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Renato Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Can anybody tell me why a comelec chairman was into this NBN deal?

I presume malacanang allowed him to be on this deal for him to get something in return for the favors he rendered during the presidential elections.
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Alex Reyes Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Sa mga NAGMAMARUNONG…KAYA MU BA?

Ikaw ba ay isang ekonomista at gaano ang kaalaman mo sa pag papatakbo ng ekonomiya. Sa tingin mo ba eh mas mahusay ka kay Gloria na Professor ng Economics at Pantas sa Ekonomiya na tinamo mula sa Pamantasan ng ibang bansa at kabilang sa mga mag aaral ng mga kilala at bantog na dating Pangulo ng Amerika na si Clinton? Kaya mu bang humarap sa maraming pinuno ng ibat ibang bansa sa kabila ng pagiging kulang sa sukat at magsalita ng ibat-ibang wika? MAKAYA mu kayang manatiling nakatayo at patuloy na namumuno sa isang bansang hati ang opinyon at pilit pagtulong-tulongan ng mga kilalang buwaya at mga higanteng istasyon ng radio, television, at makiling na pahayagan sa tulong ng mga bayarang PR manager at tiwaling mamahayag? kaya mu bang dibdibin ang mga kataksilan tulad ng ginawa ng dating kaalyado at pangulo ng senado sampu ng mga taksil na kalihim tulad ng makulay na si Dingky Soliman at si babalu? kaya mu bang tumayo sa kabila ng pagsalungat ng mga magigiting na senador na binubuo ng dating police, actor, enhinyero, rebelde, hukluban, madada na amerikano, me talangka sa ulo, pogito, puro porma at umuubos ng 6 biyon para sa 5 batas ng 2006 ayon sa ulat? Kaya mu bang harapin o diddibin ang mga tinagurian prinsipe ng simbahan at hadlangan ang mga sulat pastoral at busalan ang bibig upang mapigilang umatake gamit ang pulpito? kaya mu bang labanan ang mga makapangyarihan at maimpluwensiyang dating Pangulo tulad ng mandarambong nasi Erap, si tabako at ang kalisnisisang si Cory at ang maimpluwensiyang mga Marcos tulad ni Imelda? kaya mu bang harapin ang mga nag aalburotong suwail at rebeldeng sundalo sa pangarap na coup-detat na sina miranda, lim , Querubin at ang napaka macho at pogito na si rebeldeng tenyente Trillanes? Kaya mu bang pigilan ang mga walng utang na loob na mga Lopez , cojuanco, ayala , tan at iba pang mga negosyante sa patuloy na nakikinabang sa hulabaloo na ito? Kaya mu bang tangapin ang mga PARATANG NA KATIWALIAN NG WALANG SAPAT NA KATIBAYAN. AT KAYA MU BA NA BATAHIN ANG PANGANGAILANGAN NG 84 NA MILYONG PILIPINO NA KARAMIHAN AY NAGLUKLOK SA MGA INUTIL AT GAHAMANG POLITIKO SA KASALUKUYANG PANAHON?

Ang sistemang umiiral ay kasalanan ng mga tao na patuloy na nauuto ng mga makapangyarihang tao gamit ang medias sa patuloy na pagmamalabis at labis na pagkahumaling sa kapangyarihan. Kahit ang mga matatalino ay naapektuhan ng labis na pagkiling ng media sa isang panig ukol sa mga isyung kinakaharap.

Sisihin ninyo ang inyong sarili sa patuloy na pagboto- na akin ng itinakwil magbuhat ng manalo si Ramos bilang presidente sa di ko masikmurang sistema ng lipunan gaano man ituring na kasgrado ng aking boto.

Pang uuto lamang ang ganitong kataga na sagrado samantalang patuloy na binababoy ng mga politiko sa pamamagitan ng pag-gamit ng maruming taktika tulad ng media, pag susuhol at halos ang ganitong uri ng gawain ay isa ng kanser ng lipunan.

Ang talamak na korupsiyon ay di lamang kay Gloria bagkus ay nakalikaw na sa mga utak ng tao mula sa pinaka mababang antas hanagang sa maabot nito at tutulan man ay napakahirap sapagkat ito’y sistema ng umiiral at ang pagsalungat dito ng tahasan ay maaring buhay ang kapalit at napaka-panganib.

Napakaraming kabataan ang binulag ng idelohiyang komunismo sa pag-asang uunlad ang bansa at lipunang ginagalawan ngunit sa katotohanan ay nagdulot ng kapighatian sa san daidigan sa kabila niyon patuloy parin ang pamamayagpag ng paniniwala na ito sa ating lipunan kahit tinalikuran na ng mga dating naniniwala sa ganitong pamamaraan ng pamamahala.

Kakayanin mu ba na baguhin ang kultura at kaugaliang ito sa pamamagitan ng patuloy na pag aaklas at gamitin ang revoultion sa pag agaw ng kapangyarihan. DUGONG PILIPINO DUGONG REBOLUSYONARIO. Sa aking pananaw di ko kaya … muntik na akong mamatay sa pag sama sa unang EDSA revoultion ngunit ang isang maybahay na tulad ni Cory na namahala ay nag iwan ng isang ala-ala na patuloy na naghahati hati sa mamayan at naging daan ng pag-abuso walang iba konti ang tinatawag na KONSTITUSYON 1986. hugkag ang konstistyon na ito na dapat ng palitan sapagkat sagabal sa pagunlad at hindi angkop sa bagong kalakaran ng globalization.

SINO SA INYO ANG MAY KAPALARANG TULAD NI GLORIA NA MISTULANG ISINUMPA AT PINABAYAAN PALIGIRAN NG MGA BUWITRE AT NAG LIPANANG MGA ULUPONG SA LARANGAN NG POLITIKA.
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Alvin Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Jun Pindot, you are wrong. The peso is rising and that’s the fact. Do not base only on US$ exchange rate.

Buksan mo pa ang isa mong mata para mas makita mo ang katotohanan. Ang isa mong mata ay nakatuon lang sa dilim. Gamitin mo yung isa para tumingin sa liwanag.
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Jun Pindot Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Nakakaawa ang mga apo, anak at manugang ni Ben Abalos. Pati sila nadadamay sa pagsisinungaling ng kanilang Padre de Pamilya.

When students 20 years from now look up Crook, it will say Abalos. When they look up Crooks’ Lawyer - it will say Panelo, who used to sell used cars in Daly City. Go figure.
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Jun Pindot Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 9:12 am
The peso is not rising. It’s the US dollar’s value that’s sinking because of the slow down in the US economy. The OFWs dollar remittances is principally responsible for that holding up the Philipiine economy, and GMA should not take credit for it. This in itself is another form of robbery.

Take a look at how things are related. The Arroyos ask Abalos, etal to rig the elections. Abalos, of course, wants something in return, including a $130M flying parachute. All GMA can do is turn a blind eye, even if Neri has told her that Abalos has tried to bribe him/her. In fact, he has the Arroyos by the neck that she can change government policy from BOT to a loan package. Meanwhile, Filipinos are suffering so much because of all of Arroyos and her lapdogs thievery that they can not join any rallies anymore. They can not afford to lose one day’s pay because that means there will be no food on the table the next day. Meanwhile also, Arroyo and her tutas are using the money that they stole from us to bribe people to go into Pro Arroyo rallies.

Matagal na tayong ginagago at pinagnanakawan, pero mas gusto pa natin na magpunta sa mall at tumanga sa mga mayayaman na may bitbit na pinamimili.

Perhaps, we do deserve all of this. Per haps we will never learn. Perhaps, the best solution for all our woes, really, is to go abroad and in the end break our families’. Tutal hindi lang naman tayo ang nasisira ang pamilya. It’s happening all over. Di bale, may pang mall naman tayo. Hayaan na lang natin na pagnakawan tayo. Tutal wala naman tayong magagawa.
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Art Says:
February 26th, 2008 at 12:41 am
From the looks of the president today,it seems shes not getting any sleep.she has big eyebugs.Her sons kinda nervous.Her husband looks goofy.What is happening to the first family?We know they cannot hold on to thier power that long.Sayang madam president,im sure your father is ashame of you…You will be remembered in our history,your childrens children will suffer the consequense-karma will be with them forever,just like the marcoses,estrada and the rest of the thieves….even for our local politicians.
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jack Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Believe me, these politicos are just playing with the people - going over the fence to another party who has space for them. Nontheless, their interests are the same. The guy who sent the other one through the kangkungan is now shaking hands with the latter. (Both of them uttered almost the same line: Pupulutin sila (kayo) sa kangkungan). As if saying, that now they excluded me from the tumbang preso so then I should join your game of luksong tinik. The former losing all the amenities now has to talk bad against his previous boss, whatsoever. Very unethical - you don’t talk bad against your previous employer in front of your prospective employer, as he will expect you to do the same once you quit from him. When you don’t get the uling from the kitchen then you start the tsismis with the neighbor. Also, there is a lesson learned here: That never discuss anything in front of your coffee server. You know where I am heading to…
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jack Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
correction: it should read as “cannot be” I/O “can be”
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jack Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
A witness commenting on a mental condition of an accused whereas he is not qualified to do so, then his testimony will have no weight. A corrupt testifying that a certain personality has committed graft can be admitted as a witness because he has no moral ascendacy. The trapos just want to use the current momentum for the people to uprise becasue they can’t find legal ways to directly link the president with the current issues. It is evident that the hero they are parading now was being used by these ambitious trapos for their political ambition; even using kanto words. Will you vote for an intrigera come next election. They should stay on course with valid arguments instead of making foul description of other people. Remember, it is Lenten Season, and we are taught by the church not to judge unfairly. So we must not even put the words in the mouth of our children, as if these kids already have the wisdom to pass judgment.
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jj Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Well, no evil says that he/she is an evil. We just pray that the Philippines will be home of Godly politician like of ED Panlilio of pampanga. God is more powerful and he can do miracle.
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Boying Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
The issue here is not about credibility. The issue here is about proof. A person becomes credible only when you hear things you want to hear from him/her. Obviously, if you do not want what a person is talking about, he/she is not credible.

Erap was convicted of plunder because prosecutors were able to prove his guilt through evidence presented before the proper court of justice.

As far as GMA is concerned, nothing has been proven yet.

Puro sabi nito, sabi niya. Ayon sa kanya. Narinig ko po.

What is so interesting here, nobody is directly linking GMA to all these alleged anomalies. It’s either Mr. Arroyo or the members of her cabinet are being linked to corruption.

If this is how things work, how come we did not send one of Erap’s wives to jail (or to Tanay) with him. We have several choices. Si Loi, Guia or Laarni. Bakit hindi isinama ang mga ito? O kaya members of his cabinet.

Chain of command? Kapag nagnakaw and anak, dapat ikulong and magulang or vice versa? Payag ako diyan. Walang matitira sa lahi ng mga senador at kongresman.
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MC_90 Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Si Lozada mabait??? si Lozada may credibilidad????????????

susmaryosep mga pilipino!!!!!!!!! mga kababayan ko!!!!!!!!!1 itigil na natin ang kalokohan na to!!!!!!!!

Si Lozada, siguradong ngiting unggoy yan ngayon pag magisa sya…kasi naiisip nya kung gano katanga itong mga pilipino na nagsasabing mabait sya at may paninindigan sya!!!!!!!

sus…walang pinagkaiba yan sa mga politiko nating magnanakaw din!!!!
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Swin Lan Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Hoy Esperon at RAzon mahiya kayo. Ang taong bayan ang paglingkuran ninyo hindi ang isang sinungaling , magnanakaw na pekeng pangulo.
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Swin Lan Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Dapat malaman ng mga ordinaryong sundalo na ginagamit lang sila ng mga generals at ni GMA para sa kanilang sariling kapakanan. Busog na busog sa pera ang mga bulsa ng mga heneral ka ganyan sila ka tapat kay GMA. Kawawa naman ang mga ordinaryong sundalo ginagamit lang sila…..
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Mark Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Abalos can’t even answer the question asked of him in ABS CBN’s show ‘Harapan’

Both were asked if they were willing to take a lie detector test. A simple yes or no would have sufficed.

Lozada said yes. Abalos never answered that question.

So Lozada is not a saint. So what? The point is he admitted his faults and testified truthfully. He knows so much because he was a participant.

Lozada was in the Senate for an estimated total of 14 hours being grilled by both opposition and the painfully obvious administration…(ahem…Enrile? Arroyo? Miriam ” I lied hahahaha….” Santiago) - and it turns out Lozada’s testimony was still more coherent than Abalos 30 second ambush interviews. -Same goes for the Mob that appeared at the Senate to discredit Lozada.

Esperon - Weren’t you the one who said that the AFP should remain apolitical? I just saw in the news this morning, may pa solidarity walk gimick ka pa. Is that what you call apolitical?
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AJ Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Ahh one more thing, stop defending Arroyo she did not turn the economy around, she was just able to put a blanket of deceit around the gullible to make them think that the Philippine economy is rising. Nobody is feeling the benefit of the “improved” economic conditions.
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AJ Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
I’ll go for a transition government headed by Pampanga Gov. Panlilio. Another revolution ala EDSA will not work because the one to inherit will be Noli who we all know is a Lopez protege.

J’Lo is not a saint he was part of those mis dealings but for whatever reason that he became a turncoat and expose the rotting system we can still thank him for revealing what we already know and spark another revolution, although as I said we should opt for a transition government led by people who are not trapos or sons of bitches err trapos.
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kayana2 Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
kayana2
when will juan dela cruz will ever learn from all his past fatalistic mistakes? now his betting on horse name J’Lo because all of sudden he has a change of perspective in his mortal life. his word of doing the right thing for his soul. where is his soul when he was part of the good old boys routine? pls. give juan dela cruz a break. what a fairy tale.
it is always the same old song in a different beat, thats all.

kayana2
lasvegasnv
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tetchie palacio Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 10:21 am
welcome to the world of crocodliles!
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beni bedi Says:
February 25th, 2008 at 2:14 am
I think altho Abalos may be partially wrong in calling Lozada a liar, he is partly correct because based on the timelines and all the narration of Lozada on ABS/CBN-ANC, Lozada knew there was a commission way back when Neri told him to review the two proposals of Abalos & Joey de Venecia; if it was 35% it was alright corruption, and he did not denounce it right away; then Lozada said he did not want to appear before the Senate so he talked to both opposition and administration officials; he toed the line of the administration and even went to Hongkong and received money from Dep. Sec. Gaite, though he did not spend it because (I surmise) his use of his credit card would be covered by the cash awaiting him in Manila; he was a doble care in short; then when no friend or administration persons can find a way to help him in his predicament of having a part in the Abalos-Joey de Venecia commission quarrel, he found it to his personal interest (not the nation’s welfare) to denounce and expose it, usng the opposition version which is anti-GMA. When Secretary Defensor gave him money, he was still thinking of double dealing until the religious and clergy told him it is to his personal interest and the interest of truth to tell it; in short, it is a lie to appear as a hero, however much that appearance is propped up by some members of the clergy, the religious, the oppositon and the self righteous who, as Neri said, fails to analyze the history of corruption since Spanish/Filipino administration times and they have not found the real solution to the perennial corruption problem of the country because in their self-righteousness, they are blind and cannot offer a permanent solution to the culture & systemic defect of our constitution and laws.

bp
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Nakiramay Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Let’s just say Lozada is no saint. That is not the issue. His testimony stands above Abalos’s denials, lack of integrity and greed. The liabillities of Lozada takes a different platform from that of Abalos and co.
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Nakiramay Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Abalos is a phenomenon. He is a unique kind of creature who has no qualms about stealing money. He is a cut above the rest. Sa kanyang tanda, he seems like he has no soul. Mike Arroyo is incorrigible. He came out from near-death experience, ganoon pa rin. GMA is a disgrace to her father. There is a need to dismantle the system of government kasi after GMA, si NOLI! The cycle will start all over again.
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SuperEmet Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Answer me this: What does Malacanang have on Sec. Romulo Neri that’s keeping the Secretary very very very quiet?
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stingray Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
abalos has been in the government for a long time that acting & lying just comes out naturally.
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Odie Villanueva Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
i dont really know if he’s a liar.but he certainly has a penchant for histrionics and over acting
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Efren Ranile Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 10:26 am
I do believed Lozada is a partly credible whistleblower but at the same time the public should look on his previous record in the Phil forest corp to establish his integrity in telling the truth. If a thieve is accusing another thieve, how sure he is telling the truth, no more no less? unless he should reveal first to the public his anomalies before so he would be 100 percent credible.
Abalos is not all lying, with fair proceedings, he has point that Lozada was never been threatened, as proof of it is his constant visits to Wack wack after that. But, if he is guilty, what the hell a comelec chairman doing in brokering projects such as NBN?
The ZTE scandal is just another monster that almost sucked the nation’s blood, but how about corruption in the local governments, the legislator’s pork barrels? the corrupt courts and police? are we just everytime having fun on changing presidents? this is just one branch of the rotten tree, how about the roots? are we just letting it to grow again?
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msott Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 8:07 am
They are all liars….differ only in degree.
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Tom Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 6:15 am
I submit that Abalos does not even realize that he himself is the liar. And he knows that but does not want to admit it. At this stage of the game, does anybody really care what comes out of his dirty mouth? Get lost Abalos!!!. You are lucky you are in the Philppines where it is easy for big fish like you to get off the hook. You are not only a liar; you are damn greedy, too. In other words, you are a buaya.
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Anton Valdez Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 4:16 am
i as an onlooker of the current situation between the NBN-ZTE whistle blowers (joey dv and jun lozada) and dependers (the malacanag, government at large, and abalos) i cannot help but think that without any significant political powers and deep financial pockets, the whistle blowers can make their stories straight and very much believable while the dependers could only come up with patches of seemingly and contradictory half-truth and pure lies statements.

There can only be one reason the whistle blowers are believable. . . and that is because they are TELLING US THE NAKED TRUTH. . . even i can see the plain and simple TRUTH here. . . I dont know about others though. . .
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tikbalang Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Abalos calling Lozada a liar, Abalos is wrong.
Lozada is not a liar, Lozada ay “Nuno ng Sinungaling”

Dapat diyan ay manuno sa punso para matigil ang kanyang kasinungalingan.

Kinidnap daw siya, pero nakatawa. Meron bang kinidnap na tuwang tuwa, ang alam ko ang mga nakikidnap may trauma, hindi makasalita parang tulala.

Si Lozada hindi lang nuno ng sinungaling, tsismoso pa dahil ang mga sinasabi mga narinig lang. Ika nga wag manalig sa bulong bulungan.

Sa ating mga senador na mostly ay highly educated, may mga masters pa kuno sa mga Harvard, alam naman ninyo na salita lang ang sinasabi ni Lozada, walang documento, walang original document, or proof of the transaction or contract, you still investigate. You know beforehand that it is not acceptable in any court of law. Hearing is an impaired evidence. Much more if you tell what you hear the more it is not an evidence or in legal parlance, hearsay.

kaya please, kulang sa tulog si Lozada, patulugin nyo muna para mahimasmasan, naniningkit na ang mata.
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pinoy_toits Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Dear Kababayan,

regardless if we come up dirty or clean, if the truth will come out or whether GA will step down or with any of this escapade well we still have to face the truth that nothing has really change from people power 1.

that’s the problem with being blinded by power as if they have the tendency to just fool honest to goodness filipinos.

the whole exercise clearly shows that we need a different kind of leadership & government management of resources. a tougher leasdership with a source of good example & strong patrionism.

I call on to the military idealists to now come forward and serve their country for they are the ultimate source of discipline, courage, loyalty and leadership that the country requires. Military take over of the country is a must to bring itself to discipline and progress. Enough of the democratic way, 30 years of this democracy never ever brought any real progress to us. the philippines only survive due to good luck but nothing due from good governance since there was none at all.
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Salvador Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 9:27 pm
I am sad that our country is again in the midst of political turmoil. It’s so sad because the economy is quite doing quite well and offers better economic prospects. While everybody wants continued and sustainable growth so that an ordinary Juan Dela Cruz will one day benefit the fruit of economic progress but to me this should not stop Filipinos from also being critical and watchful of wrongdoings in the government. While everyone wants stability allegations of corruption should be seriuosly look into especially that the highest ranking political figure of the land is being implicated. One should not be blinded by the backdrop of high economic growth against corruptions in the government. While the gov’t is fairly doing good in the economy, they must also start curbing corruption. The only problem now is how can this be brutally serious when people in Malacanang and their cronies are allegedly involved in corruption and bribery.
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Aba Loslos Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Abalos is a cornered man. The ghost from the election computerization will haunt him wherever he goes. Now, he will not let himself be ridiculed by people and he will do everything to protect his “dignity”, if ever he still has one.

All he needs to do is: stand in front of the mirror, look on his reflection and surely, he will see on it hundreds of lozadas with long noses.

he has reached the point of no return. At this time, he has already succeeded in deceiving himself and make himself believe that he is innocent. Just like his boss GMA, they will stand on their ground now. Its do or die situation for them. Napasubo na… so pangangatawanan na nila yan.

Even if an angel from heaven came here on earth and convince Abalos to admit his sins, he will never ever admit his crime. He has a track record of anomalous governance in comelec. By that, we know who is telling the truth or who is telling lies.

All he wants is some payback. After all, he put GMA into Malacanang. She owe it to him then.
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Gerardo E Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I think both of them are lying. But Lozada earns the upperhand now. Lozada is trying to keep up the fire but it seems losing steam. People are fed up already with this investigation. But why is Lozada afraid to face Erwin Santos. Between Lozada and Santos, it is Santos who has credibility. Lozada should file his case on court not just being used by Cayetano in his presidential bid. People should be smart enough not to be fooled by Cayetano’s gimmick. Rene Cayetano was also corrupt. Rene had so much backdoor negotiations. And also what about Cayetano’s corruption since he became congressman. He makes politics as business. Did Cayetano help the typhoon victims? Cayetano is using the media for his grandstanding and people should not be fooled. He is desperate for attention using others. Anyway when he becomes president, he will suffer worse from vigilants like us. People power will remove him. Cayetano is a fake and unscrupulous.Why he doesnt allow Santos to testify in the senate? He is just selective and self-serving. Let us see if Lozada and Cayetano’s noses get longer too.
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Raul Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Sana may conclusion ang hearing sa senado at saka recommendations. In “AID OF LEGISLATION”. huwag naman sana maging CIRCUS ang tanong in feretting out the TRUTH. Gumawa kayo ( sa senado ng strategy para lumabas ang katotohanan).

Hindi parang BULLISH ang dating. Ang pinag uusapan dyan transparency sa mga transaction ng gobyerno.

Mag kaisa dapat kung paano magagawa ng paraan mapaganda ang Pilipinas. Sa mga projects na ganito. hindi padadamahin mo na ang gobyerno tapos sasabihin may bribery o kidnapping na nangyayari.

Ang lalabas doon na frame up and gobyerno. Hindi dapat mag sisiraan kagaya nangyayari ngayon.

Parang Crab Mentality tayo dyan. dumating si lozada, totoo kaya sinasabi nito. narinig lang kay neri na ganito naniwala kaagad. o baka kuwentong barbero lang.

Sana may patutunguhan ang NBN-ZTE deal na iyan. kung nakita may overpricing. Ihinto ang project hindi pabor sa atin. Bakit kaya overpricing. Ano kaya ang dapat na price sa project na iyon.

Doon dapat mag concentrate ang investigation.

Mag kaano ba ang presyo ng ibang bidders. para may comparison.
Ano ba ang offer ng ibang bidders na wala sa NBN-ZTE.

Sana sa marinig iton maliit na boses ko sa nangyayari ngayon.

Raul
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Israel Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 10:04 am
The fact of the matter would be…..everyone whose palda is nabasa, would have a “long nose”, thereby have “lied”.

Like what has been said…..its only a matter of who has the longest.

Sorry Abalos, calling Lozada a liar doesn’t erase a fact that you are a liar as well.

Here’s a dilemma…..its either you or Neri who is lying (saw it on TV). But then, here is Lozada corroborated Neri (and even DeVenecia III)…..so we have 3 against you.

Sorry Abalos, you seem to be the winner of the Pinocchio Awards!
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For truth and Justice Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 9:38 am
If Jun Lozada, Is a liar. Gloria Arroyo, Is the biggest LIAR!
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Eaton Fernandez Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 7:51 am
I would say to Mr. Abalos — “Look whose talking?” Every honest person in Mandaluyong City Hall and the City itself knows how corrupt you are when you were mayor. To those who can read human countenance, this man is a sworn liar. In some foreign countries hands are chopped off and tongues cut for persons like these. It would not be bad if we send these corrupt men to these countries and have them dismembered.
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Alain Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 7:38 am
No doubt it will be Lozada, Abalos, and de Venecia, Jr. The others haven’t spoken as yet, so we can not name them.
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J Lee Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 5:22 am
I’m looking forward to see who gets punished!
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Tigerbear Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 5:00 am
I think Mr. Lozada is more credible than Mr. Abalos, he’s the LIAR! No wonder he had no action on the “Hello Garci”, he was then the COMELEC Chairman and yet he let them (GMA) get away with it because in the first place he was part of the grand conspiracy!
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Gerry Medina Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 4:44 am
Bakit kaya I don’t see anymore the usual practice of placing your right hand on top of the Bible before swearing to tell the truth? How can you expect a God-Fearing individual to tell the truth? Kahit sino pa ang mapatunayang sinungaling o hinde, hinde parin nito magagamot ang corruption. The truth is, kahit sino pa ang ipalit mo sa pwesto, there will always be some form of corruption. Siguro if we assign a church representative to each govenment and local office, not to govern, but solely for the purpose of undertaking checks and balances, baka pwede pa. Otherwise, we are just reinventing the wheel, so wait nalang for judgement day. Sorry, yun lang ang naisip kong paraan.
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Rolando Ignacio Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 3:58 am
Ms Arroyo never won the presidency, she coveted it, first from Erap, then robbed FPJ. To me, she is never the president nor will ever be president.
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ed villa Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 9:11 pm
This scandal shouldnt be aired on Tv and described in details in evey major newspaper in the country.For one to know who is lying, this case should be submitted into a court of law where experts can read what is written between the lines.The problem now is if the senate will make it go. as it is too obvious that they are making this scandal their staging point to whatever agenda they have in mind.
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Harold Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Comments on Sen Pangilinan pronouncement:

SENATE is the one responsible for Lozada’s safe keeping (as what they say, daw!) and into his move to fight and file case against his abductors (daw!), why pass seek OFW’s request to raise funds to support lozada’s so called testimony? are you dreaming beloved senator and senator’s? instead of preparing bill and laws to help OFW’s problems encountered during our bloody daily routine JOBS and send back dollars to our beloved family and supporting the country’s economic depression.

Instead of making laws, what are you doing our beloved senators? ride in a sailing ship of controversies just to get popularity (since Filipinos are fund of voting government officials who are populars with great immages as so called “ARTISTA’S”).

Instead of raising funds from OFW’s, why not tap the shoulders of your brothers and sisters senators who are recently on board the cruise with the captain Jun Lozada’s cat like smile during his award winning FAMAS/ SENATE testimony, to personaly donate your Million Pork Barrel Fund where Mr. Ping Lacson ussually and humbly offered to anyone who needs it, as he ussually said he didn’t need it (for delicadisa DAW).

OR

Collect from all the TV Stations covering the daily show in the senate, in an ambush interview your (SENATORS) talent fee since from the very beggining where senators elected run mostly by oppositions are choosing to be like celebrities where they want to work very lovely with CAMERAS.

Dear senators, please don’t make “Juan de Cruz” put more weights on the CROSS he is carrying, he suffers a lot not like you (SENATORS) are delighted talking infront of cameras mostly from TV stations with your colors.

Conclusion: Why raised fund for your so called “HERO”? he has sufficient money, remember his acknowldgement that he is not perfect and he made mistakes earlier during his term as president of Phil Forest Corp., meaning he earned a lot being the president of the company, that is why he disiminated some hectars of govenment land not to himself only but to his next of keen and family circle, why solicit fund to poor OFW’s?

Respectfully yours,
OFW’s from Libya

Why ask OFWs for whistleblower funds?

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Close this Bilib naman ako sa twisted mind nitong Pangilinan na ito.

Mag-isip na lang kaya siya ng panukala na itigil na ang reason for whistle blowing in the first place. Mamumulubi lalo ang mga OFW sa dami ng mawi-whistle blow.

He should instead introduce a bill to make every person in government make his/her source of income public knowledge; this includes their salaries, their bonuses, their commissions, freebies, anything that increases their assets and wealth while they are serving the “poor”.

Yung mga naghihikahos na tulad ko, alam ng mga auditors at creditors kung magkano ang assets and liabilities ko, to the centavo. Sila kaya?

Francisco Mangaoang Franco
Oakland, California

I am suggesting that instead of Pangilinan asking OFWs like me to donate money for a whistle blower’s cause, why don’t politicians like him just do it on their own?

We are helping our economy (at the price) of loneliness by working alone abroad, leaving our family back home. Is he afraid that his pork barrel, or CDF as they call it, would be diminished?

If they are really sincere in attaining honest and transparent government, let them do their share because we are doing ours. That’s the reason you were voted by the people to your current post – to be a server to the people with good governance.

One more thing, people in the government should strive hard to create job opportunities back home so that OFW talent can be enjoyed by our nation and not by any other nation. OFWs are sometimes treated like slaves by their employers.

Richard Dugan
Plano, Texas
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john m.g. Says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
it really doesnt matter how Abalos calls or names Lozada. His mouth is futile.

the public, I for one, already knows who’s who in the quest for truth.

By common sense, I see Abalos as villain and Lozada the defender of truth now.

Abalos et al, again your words have no credibility. (period)

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