TAMA si [Senator Miriam Defensor] Santiago baka madehado ang claim natin sa Sabah… dapat careful ang Congress sa pagpasa sa Philippine baseline bill kasi parang walang alam ang mga lawmakers na ‘yan sa mga territorial claims ng Pilipinas.
Dapat ‘wag na nating pakawalan pa ang Sabah.
– Amando Respicio Boncales, Illinois, US (via e-mail)
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August 28th, 2008 at 11:20 am
How can we solve the problem of claiming Sabah if our own Country’s problem is remain unsolve?Yes, I’m talking about POVERTY
August 28th, 2008 at 11:20 am
How can we solve the problem of claiming Sabah if our own Country’s problem is remain unsolve.Yes, I’m talking about POVERTY
August 19th, 2008 at 6:15 am
MISSY,
YOUR 100% correct!
July 20th, 2008 at 9:04 am
have you been there?
July 14th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Dapat atin ang Sabah! Sana di tayo naghihirap ng ganito. Daming natural resources dun tapos mga taga Malaysia lang nakikinabang.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
HM, King Anthony Santiago Martin, why you don’t show yourself to claim our rights in Sabah, I have copies of your papers and I read there that Sabah is one of our legal property.
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:59 pm
the DFA should be careful sa nga gagawin nila, baka ma jupardize nanaman ang established claim natin sa Sabah.
The Philippines should make an action, letter of communique to Malaysia, to boost the Philippine claim over Sabah.
The Philippines should assert that Malaysia should observe the STATUS of Sabah, with regards to Ownership of the territory before deporting Filipinos.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:47 am
Malaysia if fearful about Sabah Issue
source:http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Sunday/National/2280082/Article/index_html
Q: During one meeting in Parliament at the last session, one MP said there were so many immigrants in Sabah now that there actually was a danger of these naturalized citizens asking for Sabah to become a part of the Philippines, or to vote not to have Sabah as part of Malaysia. Is that a realistic fear?
A: We cannot tell what’s in the hearts of men or what’s in the future.
Don’t forget that the Philippines has not given up its claims on Sabah. If you look at the Philippines map, Sabah is part of the Philippines.
The Philippines has refused to set up a consulate in Sabah, because that would be seen as acknowledging that it is Malaysian territory.
When people talk about this, they are talking about a future fear. We cannot dismiss it outright. And, therefore, we must have prudence in our immigration policies and our policy towards citizenship.
I would welcome workers to the country; I would even welcome people who apply for citizenship. But a clear-cut policy must be made: how many can we accept?
And they must get citizenship through the front door, not the back door.
Look at the people who become citizens of Australia and America. It’s a proud day for a citizen; there’s a tea party to welcome you, you recite the oath of allegiance and you sing the national anthem.
But we don’t hear of these sort of things in Sabah. Overnight, they become citizens.
June 26th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
malaysia is still paying the rent by 2003,2004,..but its not ENOUGH,..napakaliit para sa laki at yaman ng sabah…na napupunta lang sa malaysia…
June 26th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Sabah was been lawfully Claimed by the Filipino People and HM, King Anthony Santiago Martin handled all documentary claims that affirming the full ownership of the Filipino People over said extended properties. UN has already known this fact and Filipino People must be happy because HM, King Anthony Santiago Martin handled fact that this territory was been reaffirmed by Malaysian Government as Property of the People of the Philippine Islands.
June 22nd, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Source:http://www.psmsp.org/blog/?p=58
Our Fatherland includes Sabah
June 19th, 2008 by Juan Guerra | Posted in Fatherland |
We have heard the talk in the past about the territory of Sabah, jointly held by Indonesia and Malaysia, and that past governments have desired to bring it into the fold of our beloved Fatherland. However due to the incessant bickering of our political parties no move to reclaim our territory has ever been made, instead idle posturing and saber rattling is all that resulted.
The Samahan will instead pursue a rigorous policy of expansion into the territory of Sabah, not only that our government shall reclaim it, but that it will also be repopulated by Pilipino (Filipino) nationalists. It is intrinsic that once we hold Sabah we must displace the squatter population there and repatriate the entire area with our people in order to hold our claim.
Now many ask does this mean war? Of course not, we are a civilized nation and an intellectual party, which means that though we prepare for the terrible chance of war, in actual fact we wish only for peaceful negotiations. We will work with the Indonesian and Malaysian governments and work out trade deals or financial restitution in return for the land. Yes we know that this land was ours, that we should simply take it by force and damn the consequences. But this makes not only for bad foreign policy but also senseless death of countless Pilipino (Filipino) citizens.
Some claim that because we desire a strong military and that we will fight for the rights of our people that this means our first action will always be war. No my friends peaceful negotiation must always be the first course of action when working with other nations. The fact that Sabah was ours will lend heavy weight to all our negotiations both regionally and internationally, and that will make it easier for us when we work with our allies to come to a final resolution regarding our national sovereignty.
But to what end is the reclaiming of Sabah going to further the Fatherland and our people? Land my friends, it is about living space and breathing room for our national community, land that we need to house and feed our ever-growing population. Instead of facing a nation that will be over crowded and starved for food, with the inclusion of Sabah we will have vast new territories to spread out in and to farm and feed the Fatherland.
With Sabah we will have a drive to the frontiers, land for those without their own, those that live in Manila, the so called “squatters”, will be allowed to travel to Sabah and claim land for free as their own from which they can farm and not only feed their families but help feed the nation. This will relieve much of the pressure on Manila and the resources that the city has at their disposal. The poor will be given a chance to create strong and better lives, with aid from our government and a new series of developmental banks that will provide training and funding to build massive tracks of agricultural lands.
OF course we must take precautions ahead of time to protect from slash and burn policies that the Malays and Indonesians have practiced for years. Killing of the natural world, wiping out animals and plant life that may one day yield beneficial harvests in the medical world. Even the pollution from these slash and burn policies have affected the health and well being of our people in the Philippines, the smoke and carcinogens have made their way to our cities causing worse health risks to our nation then were already there.
No for us the inclusion of Sabah is not only going to be a massive economic boon to all our people, to our agricultural industry, but it will also be a huge boost to our national morale helping to spur on the national economy and bringing the standard of living up for our entire nation. Sabah belongs to us; we must take it back as our historical and divine right. The land belongs to us and it is unjust in the best of light that it continues to be used by foreign governments that wrongfully took away our sovereign rights. We will accept nothing short of repatriation to the Fatherland, though we will work with these nations peacefully to achieve such goals.
Brothers the time has come to watch our nation expand well beyond its borders, to what once was the Philippines of the past. Before cowardly imperialists gave away that which was not theirs to begin with to pay of other foreign governments. It is time that these nations made right the wrongs from the past, to pay back what they have taken from us, and it is time for the rest of the world to recognize the sovereign rights of the Fatherland.
LAHI AT AMANGBAYAN
Juan “Maso” Guerra
June 20th, 2008 at 1:41 am
Our Fatherland includes Sabah
June 19th, 2008 by Juan Guerra | Posted in Fatherland |
We have heard the talk in the past about the territory of Sabah, jointly held by Indonesia and Malaysia, and that past governments have desired to bring it into the fold of our beloved Fatherland. However due to the incessant bickering of our political parties no move to reclaim our territory has ever been made, instead idle posturing and saber rattling is all that resulted.
The Samahan will instead pursue a rigorous policy of expansion into the territory of Sabah, not only that our government shall reclaim it, but that it will also be repopulated by Pilipino (Filipino) nationalists. It is intrinsic that once we hold Sabah we must displace the squatter population there and repatriate the entire area with our people in order to hold our claim.
Now many ask does this mean war? Of course not, we are a civilized nation and an intellectual party, which means that though we prepare for the terrible chance of war, in actual fact we wish only for peaceful negotiations. We will work with the Indonesian and Malaysian governments and work out trade deals or financial restitution in return for the land. Yes we know that this land was ours, that we should simply take it by force and damn the consequences. But this makes not only for bad foreign policy but also senseless death of countless Pilipino (Filipino) citizens.
Some claim that because we desire a strong military and that we will fight for the rights of our people that this means our first action will always be war. No my friends peaceful negotiation must always be the first course of action when working with other nations. The fact that Sabah was ours will lend heavy weight to all our negotiations both regionally and internationally, and that will make it easier for us when we work with our allies to come to a final resolution regarding our national sovereignty.
But to what end is the reclaiming of Sabah going to further the Fatherland and our people? Land my friends, it is about living space and breathing room for our national community, land that we need to house and feed our ever-growing population. Instead of facing a nation that will be over crowded and starved for food, with the inclusion of Sabah we will have vast new territories to spread out in and to farm and feed the Fatherland.
With Sabah we will have a drive to the frontiers, land for those without their own, those that live in Manila, the so called “squatters”, will be allowed to travel to Sabah and claim land for free as their own from which they can farm and not only feed their families but help feed the nation. This will relieve much of the pressure on Manila and the resources that the city has at their disposal. The poor will be given a chance to create strong and better lives, with aid from our government and a new series of developmental banks that will provide training and funding to build massive tracks of agricultural lands.
OF course we must take precautions ahead of time to protect from slash and burn policies that the Malays and Indonesians have practiced for years. Killing of the natural world, wiping out animals and plant life that may one day yield beneficial harvests in the medical world. Even the pollution from these slash and burn policies have affected the health and well being of our people in the Philippines, the smoke and carcinogens have made their way to our cities causing worse health risks to our nation then were already there.
No for us the inclusion of Sabah is not only going to be a massive economic boon to all our people, to our agricultural industry, but it will also be a huge boost to our national morale helping to spur on the national economy and bringing the standard of living up for our entire nation. Sabah belongs to us; we must take it back as our historical and divine right. The land belongs to us and it is unjust in the best of light that it continues to be used by foreign governments that wrongfully took away our sovereign rights. We will accept nothing short of repatriation to the Fatherland, though we will work with these nations peacefully to achieve such goals.
Brothers the time has come to watch our nation expand well beyond its borders, to what once was the Philippines of the past. Before cowardly imperialists gave away that which was not theirs to begin with to pay of other foreign governments. It is time that these nations made right the wrongs from the past, to pay back what they have taken from us, and it is time for the rest of the world to recognize the sovereign rights of the Fatherland.
LAHI AT AMANGBAYAN
Juan “Maso” Guerra
June 17th, 2008 at 2:13 am
boy,
tila may colonial mentality kapa yata. anything pilipins ay inaayawan mo or minamaliit mo. is itong palatandaan sa colonial mentality, lahat nalang ng sa pilipinas o gawin ng pilipinas ay mali- pls wake-up and move forward.
wag kanang magpakulong sa nakaraan, dapat magbago kana sa iyong pananaw sa ating bansa.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
on my opinion., sabah is for the philippines., malaysia paid the sultenate of sulu every year., it doesn’t mean that they owned sabah., the natives of sabah doesn’t have the rights to choose what country they belonged too., because based on the historical features and laws., sabah is part of the philippines bec. they are under the philippine based line.,
June 7th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
If ever ma-revive ang claim ng Sabah at bigyan ito pansin ng ICJ, which is never because it requires the MUTUAL CONSENT of the parties, ang SOVEREIGNTY AND TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION ng Pilipinas mismo ang ma-open for discussion kasi ang nagmamay-ari ng Sabah ay mga Moro (Bangsamoro), ang Sultanate ng Sulu. At the time na sovereign pa ang Sultan of Sulu, PROTECTORATE ang status ng Sultanate of Sulu under Spain and in the Kiram-Bates Treaty under the US colonial administration. Ibig-sabihin nito kailangan ma-recognize muna ng Pilipinas na under COLONIAL OCCUPATION ang Sulu Archipelago na pag-mamayari at sovereignty ng Sultanate of Sulu. Mas mabuti para sa mga Moro kung ungkatin pa ang Sabah claim para sa madaling panahon makalaya ang Bangsamoro. At saka, may dalawang submarino ang Malaysia, meron pa silang F-18 at Mig-29 at maraming indigenous Frigates and Patrol boats. Anong meron ang Pilipinas sa Airforce at Navy? Mabuti pang asikasuhin na lang natin ang Pilipinas na maging matatag at bigyan natin ng hustisya ang mga Bangsamoro sa ginawa natin sa kanila pag-agaw ng kanilang lupa at sovereignty at dignidad as First Nations and Indigenous Peoples just like what Australia, Canada, New Zealand and even the US (katulad pagbigay nila ng “sovereign dependent nations” status sa mga American Indians na binigyan nila ng kanilang teritoryo sa American Indian Reservations) did in recognizing their indigenous or First Nations prior rights.
May 25th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
BY THE WAY ENZO THE COMMENT IS NOT AGAINST YOU HAHAHA
May 25th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ENZO? REVIEW YOUR FILES, OK! YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE. AS FAR AS HISTORICAL AND LEGAL BASIS ARE CONCERN, THE PHILILIPPINE CLAIM IS BASED ON “HISTORICAL, LEGAL FACTS AND COURT JUDGMENT”. MALAYSIA IS HOPING THAT THE PHILIPPINES WILL NOT PURSUE THIS CASE BECAUSE THEIR ARGUMENT IS SO VERY WEAK. FOR SURE THEY WILL LOOSE. WE WILL GET OUR ACTS TOGETHER, AND WHEN THAT TIME COMES YOU WILL GET YOUR ASS OUT OF OUR TERRITORY.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
I would think that borneanmonkey is right! PEDRO should leave the country, parang e-dini-denounce na niya ang kanyang citizenship as Filipino. PEDRO go away, we don’t need you, taksil sa bayan!!!!
Alam nyo felling talaga ng mga Malaysians na they are better than us, ang papangit pa naman ng mag mukha nila, para sialng mga taong gubat. If you want to read kung paano nikla tayo tratohin as Filipinos, pls check this URL (diti nyo makikita kung gaano kababa ang tingin ng mga malayong ongoy nay an!): http://www.topix.com/forum/world/malaysia/T7S5UU62KSOO4H8PT/p39
May 5th, 2008 at 12:18 am
Thanks Enzo for backing me up!
Pedro, you’re english is fit for Malaysia. I think they would welcome you there.
Malaysia was so poor before Sabah came under their control.
Mga Filipino, we are better than the Malaysians. We look good, we have taste, we are intelligent, and we smell good. Let’s be proud of ourselves. Let’s not bow down are heads into submission to the people who are not within our level. No matter how rich they think they are, let’s not make them mistreat our people.
April 29th, 2008 at 8:50 am
its not up to philippines or malaysia government.
Sabahan must choose; stay in malaysia, go for philippines or declared independent. .
My personal opinion; sabah should go for independent!!!
Hidup SABAH!!!!
April 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
sabah never belong to the sultanate of brunei at the first place. .
so the so-called claim by certain quarters is irrelevant . .
ask original people of sabah if they want to be part of philippines. .
the only answer that will get is ”NO”.
April 20th, 2008 at 3:22 am
pedro, if ever you are Filipino, you are being so unpatriotic (read as: traitor, balimbing, walang kwentang mamamayan) with what you are saying.
Yes, we might be less technologically or economically advanced than Malaysia, but that shouldn’t stop us from pursuing what is rightfully ours.
Regarding your post,
“There is no historical and legal evidence that Sabah belongs to the Philippines. ”
Please try to see the archives in Spain and England. The deal between the Sultan of Sulu and the Englishman who leased it from him were properly documented there.
Your ignorance is so infuriating.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:00 am
To pedro,
please fix your english first or just migrate to Malaysia.
Malaysia’s per capita income increased because of Sabah’s oil. Sabah and Sarawak was incorporated into Malaya because it is the British gov’ts interest to have their former colonies as one country.
Yes, you are saying that we are dreaming. Why can’t you just be patriotic? If all Filipinos will be like you, the country would really have no hope. So unfortunate. You don’t know the struggles of Filipinos in Borneo and Malaysia in general. If you don’t have anything nice to say about the country, please shut up. We don’t need more people like you.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Let’s stop Malaysia from bullying us. For all of you who don’t know how Malaysians treat the Filipinos they hire as maids, waiters, and waitresses, it’s really sad. Malaysia is nothing without Sabah. We should all unite. Stop using Malaysia as mediator between the Muslim Rebels. They have their own vested interests. We are more intelligent than their population. Let’s regain our confidence and pride.
April 11th, 2008 at 11:53 am
walang totoong referendum na nangyari sa sabah. the malaysian government manipulated the so called referendum!
sa lahat ng mga kapwa kong pinoy, maging patriotic naman kayo.
let’s unite for our country.
sabah is really ours. historically and legally!
break diplomatic ties with malaysia if necessary.
let’s educate our fellow filipinos regarding this issue. let’s instill patriotism to them!
for more info please visit:
http://www.phil-sabah.org
April 11th, 2008 at 11:47 am
TO JAM:
Inilipat na ng Sultanate of Sulu sa Pilipinas ang authority para yung gobyerno na ang mag pursue sa claim sa Sabah.
April 8th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Militarily, we are not ready for anything except to guard Malacanan and EDSA Shrine. Its large, though, to accommodate promotions ng mga mistahs to generals a stepping stone for the green cards. War with the Malaysians? Farfetched. No guts, only glory bullying own kind, Diplomacy, yes! may pagkakitaan jan sa bentahan ng mga bituka natin. What are we in power for in corruption and more lyings? Politically, numbers work on fortune. With salaries lower than an ordinary seamen, they sure work wonders. Judicially, lady justice can not only see now, she can wiretap even and does not carry a balance anymore, milk cartons.
April 7th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
It’s like putting a lot of squatters into your house then calling a “referendum ” on who is the new owner of the house. Wrongfully the real owner got kick out of his own house because of numbers. That’s what had happened in Sabah case.
April 7th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
In any diplomacy , power is always right. We better ask the British why when they rented out Sabah instead of returning it to the original owner when they don’t need it anymore ,they gave it on a silver platter to others as if Sabah is theirs to give.
April 7th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
You are completly correct Pedro! People are not the one who put our life at risk, but the responsible ones! Who? Senators always says it was the president. but the way I sees it. Senators ruins it and seek for someone who can blame into. Senators who doesn’t deserve to be seated. All of you! I hope you guys can grow your brain a little more.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
If Filipinos wants Sabah why not take the whole island of Borneo as well, then go on island hoping across the southeast Asian archipelago, take Suwalesi, Javah, Jakarta, Sumatra just like Imperial Japan did in WWII.
Then command your Filippino fleets of Aircraft carrier to take New guinea and the big prize Australia and New Zealand. Don’t worry Filipinos I won’t wake you up in your DREAMS coz’ you already have so much Nigthmare in real life created by your Politicians like those inept 24 senators and a president.
April 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
war will only bring destruction.. i am not in favor of sacrificing the whole country just for a small disputed islands. hindi nmn kc tlga mlinaw kung cno tlga ang may kratan s isla n yan. sana mgkaisa nlng sang ASEAN at china s pagexplore ng oil s disputed island & kung mdmi nga tlgang oil deposit jan e d gwin nting no.1 oil producer ang ASIA, tyo naman ngaun ang magdidikta s presyo ng langis.
April 6th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
To Pedro,
Not because we dont have military presence in Sabah, it would mean we dont have the rightful right. If that would be the legal opinion, then we would be back in times of the Roman, where the mighty rules, and with that, all lands would be owned by eithe US or Russia who have several bases world wide.
The question is, can we afford conflict with Malasia ? With the likes of Marcos around, I would say, Yes we can. With Gloria, we would have a NIL chances. Our Land never easily succomb to military intervention in the past. We fight the mighty and the great. We fight the Spaniards, the Japanese, the American. All are wordl power of their time. Can we not fight the Malaysian ? If we can not, then we just better hide in our Lola’s skirt and runs away. There would be no place on us here on earth.
April 6th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Kung hindi lang sana tayo naging masyadong anti-Marcos nung araw, Sabah may have been part of the Philippines territorry now. I was still young then, But i remember, Marcos try to regain Sabah thru two discreet military approach. But some anti-Marcos elements expose the delicate military mission that spoil everything. Marcos during those time replaces Macapagal, who will replace now Macapagal II ? Do we need new Marcos ?
April 6th, 2008 at 8:41 am
I am helping Malaysia get richer by working for them. Sabah is getting richer because of its vast oil deposits. What can the Philippines do? Malaysians just laugh at us for being poor, maids, nannies, our accents (as if their accents are not funny, even worse). What the Philippines should do is to regain whatever Glory we had before. Improve our image. Stop all bickerings and work toward progress. If we’re only politically stable, peaceful, then there’s no doubt we can get all the investment money we need to compete against our once poor neighbor Malaysia. Living in Malaysia has made me cry a lot for our country. I argue, educate people about what went wrong with the Philippines, and telling them that there’s hope. Is there really? Sorry for veering into another topic.
April 4th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
In addition to that, why aren’t we claiming back Guam and other pacific isalnds from the US? Many of these islands were part of Las Islas Filipinas for 400 years!
April 4th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Just because Sabah belongs to the sulatn of Sulu does not mean that it “must” be part of the Philippines. You see, the Sabahans voted in favor of Malaysia back then. The issue therefore should be between the Family of the Sultan of Sulu and Malaysia. It should not be politicized by the Philippines.
Granting that the Philippines won the claim over Sabah yet most Sabahans don’t want to be part of the Philippine yet they don’t want to leave Sabah for the Malay Peninsula, what will we do, papalayasin sila? Aapihin sila?
Some say one reason Malaysia doesn’t want to let go of Sabah is because it is rich in natural resources. Isn’t it that is the very same reason why the Philippines is after Sabah! We are hiding in disguise of “it belongs to the sultan of Sulu”. Had Sabah been like Taiwan, Japa or Korea, which are not rich in natural resources, I doubt the Philippines will pursue its claim.
April 3rd, 2008 at 8:06 pm
LETS GO TO WAR!!!! LET US SEND ALL OUR POLITICIANS ON THE FRONTLINE….SO THEY WILL ALL DIE…SEND THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS AND THEIR WIVES AND MISTRESSES AS WELL…PARA WALA NG PAPALIT SA POSITION NILA..IN THAT WAY WE HAVE A NEW BREED OF POLITICIANS AND OUR LIVES WILL BE MUCH BETTER…
AMEN TO THAT!!!!
pero alam natin lahat na walang politiko na pupunta sa gyera…tatanong agad nila ¨MAGKAKAPERA BA KAMI JAN? MAY MINIMUM OF 10% sop BA YAN? MAY MEDIA BA? MAKIKITA BA KAMI SA TV? ¨
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 am
Blame the British for the creation of Malaysia, Blame the Dutch for the creation of Indonesia and Blame the Spaniards for the creation of Philippines, GET OVER IT AND GET REAL Sabah is not worth fighting for unless Filipino is Technologically smart like Japan or Germany. Then we should build first our own Military Industry, make jet fighters, Aircraft Carrier, Submarines, Battleship and spy sattlelites. Look in the 70’s we would have been the third Nuclear power in Asia after Japan and China but the Morong Nuclear plant was corrupted by Marcos cronies. Malaysia is more capable of invading us. They have advanced F-16, New Submarines and Battleship. Diplomacy is not that easy why would a Sovereign country would give up a third of their territoy. How dumb is that, other than some of our Senators.
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Sabah was occupied by Malaysia illegally similar to what Iraq have done to Kuwait, our government and the sultanate of Sulu should do everything possible to retake Sabah as it is a legitimate part of Philippine territory. Sabah land area is almost the size of Mindanao and it is rich in oil and mineral resources , that’s why Malaysia would never give up Sabah.
April 1st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Coffe Princess,
May freedom of spits namas si Erap p, di ba out of school youth siya?
April 1st, 2008 at 8:48 pm
We have a rightful claim over Sabah but negotiations with Malaysia will be of no use now, are we ready to enter into an armed conflict and take it by force? Can we win? If that happens, will the world opinions be in our favor?
April 1st, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Malaysia has a robust economy than the Philippines. Their per capita income is more than $10,000., while the Philippines is less than $3,000. That means the people of Sabah are three times more productive than the Filipinos.
There is no historical and legal evidence that Sabah belongs to the Philippines. The Sultan of Sulu never had an established army of soldier and civil servant to put a series of outpost in the hinterlands of Sabah to legitimize their claim, just like the early chinese and the Romans who created legitimacy to their claim by keeping an army in a territory. Spain created a legitimate claim of the Philippines to the Europeans by showing a powerful standing army and signed treaty with other colonist. The Sultan of Sulu is not a Sultan of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao, does he even exist, if he does it is his problem to claim his lost throne and territory. He already lost the territory of Sulu to the Philippines.
It is very clear in Geography that Sabah belong to the island of Borneo. There should be a Royal Republic of Borneo not Malaysia and Indonesia.
We already have so many problems in our country, problems that is so easy to solved but our elected official keeps on dragging all this problems.
Sabah is not worth fighting for, in fact Sabah would rather invade us and claim us as their servants, nanny, dh, and sex slave.
April 1st, 2008 at 12:48 pm
It is not rocket science. Sabah belongs to the Philippines via the Sultanate of Sulu. Philippines has a legit claim over the area. The Malaysians will do whatever it takes to deny us that claim. So as Hongkong is part of China, Sabah is certainly part of the Philippines.
March 31st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
kung ang buong issue ng sabah claim is about territory/sovereignty, malakas ang habol natin based on the history of the sultanate of sulu which can ba traced back early on the 17th century.
in the annals of history:
1906 & 1920 - nag remind pa ang US sa great britain na ng sabah ay hindi pagaari ng crown kundi sa sultanate ng sulu. nagbingi-bingihan lang ang GB.
may ruling and high court of north borneo nung 1939 that handed ownership of sabah to the sultanate of sulu.
all of these on top of the token $1500 rental fees paid by the malaysia govt to the heirs yearly.
nung 1963 nagkaroon ng tripartite meeting si macapagal (pilipinas), sokarno (indonesia) at abdulrahman (united kingdom of malaya) tungkol sa issue ng sabah.
ang malay kingdom that time eh hindi pa federation of malaysia at hindi pa nila officially hawak ang sabah at sarawak. sabi daw sa meeting na yun ng tatlong head ng bansang nabanggit, ang pinas at indonesia would not object to the establishment of malaysia kung magkakaroon ng investigating body ang UN para pulsuhan ang mga taga Sabah kung saan nila gustong umanib.
so nagkaroon nga ng commission ang UN na kinabibilangan Argentina, Brazil, Ceylon, Czechoslovakia, Ghana, Pakistan, Japan and Jordan. doon nakita nila na lahat halos ng mga taga sabah gustong sumama sa confederation ng malaysia.
sabah people looks happy and contented under malaysia. and none of them probably would want to assume a filipino citizenship and be among her woes. so ang tanong, kailangan ba ang opinion ng mga mamamayan ng isang lugar kung aling bansa sila gustong mapabilang?
kung hindi, may karapatan tayong i claim ang sabah. kung oo naman, wala na tayong magagawa kung majority sa mga taga sabah ayaw maging filipino.
IMHO, may karaptan talaga tayo na kunin ang sabah dahil sa pilipinas nga ito. kung makikidigma tayo para lang makuha sila ng pwersahan tapos ang mga mamamayan naman ng sabah eh rerebelde lang sa pinas dahil ayaw nga nila sumama, magkakaroon lang tayo ng eksena kagaya ng taiwan at china.
ang malala pa, baka sa pagpupumulit natin na kunin ang sabah at pabayaan lang din kagaya ng pagpapabaya natin sa mindanao eh baka mapilitan ang sulu na mag secede at buu-in na lang separately ang Sultanate of Sulu and Sabah. that might have chain reaction sa buong ARMM and we might be at risk in losing all mindanao and palawan to that.
ang malungkot eh technically kung sa atin nga ang sabah, tingnan nyo kung papano nagmumukhang iskwater ang mga pinoy na nag tatrabaho dun. it wasn’t so long ago nung nakita natin sa news ang maraming pinoy nag pinag ra-round up sa sabah for being called “illegal workers” while the people of sabah does not feel any assimilation at all sa pinas.
March 31st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
It wasn’t my intention to offend anybody regarding my earlier post. Kaya lang kasi nakakainis yung fact na may taong magsasabi na kalimutan na lang natin yung claim natin over Sabah pero di naman nya sinasabi kung bakit (pertaining to Ayessa). Lumalabas kasi na baseless yung opinion nya. I have nothing against those people saying that we should forget the Sabah issue, at least they’ve provided the reasons why they think so.
Sa kabilang banda, nakakalungkot lang isipin na buti pa pag laban ni Pacqiuao ang pinag-uusapan dahil halos nagiging isa ang Pilipinas pero sa mas mahahalagang issue eh sumusuko na tayo hindi pa naman nag-uumpisa ang tunay na laban. Sana lang pag isipan natin kung ano ang magiging long-term effect sa atin ng pagsuko natin sa supposed territories natin.
March 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
At least somebody here (romee) has an idea of what happened to Sabah and how Malaysia was able to “take it away from us”.
To those who doesn’t have an idea of the historical connection that existed between Sabah and the Philippines, it would be better if you guys review your Philippine history first before even commenting on this matter.
March 31st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
To Erap pa rin: What are you talking about? I think the Sabah issue is different from the Spratlys issue. How can we actually sell Sabah to China if Sabah is currently being controlled by Malaysia??
March 31st, 2008 at 12:47 pm
for me our territorial claims on sabah & spratly islands must be discuss diplomaticaly.. i dont want war. war will only bring destruction to our country. militarily speaking we dont have a chance of winning if we engage any of our neighboring countries into a war.
March 31st, 2008 at 11:50 am
Yan ang dapat isa sa mga pinag tutuunan ng pansin ng ating mga mambabatas hindi yang mga long-running investigations na yan na wala namang katuturan kundi tsismis at kaguluhan sa bansa. Ginagawa lang nilang venue para siraan ang mga kalaban nila sa pulitika kaya’t ang nangyayari eh puro trial by publicity. Malaking insulto sa intelligence ng mga taong marunong mag-isip at masamang impluwensya sa utak ng mga taong mahihilig maniwala sa sabi-sabi.
Kung magagawa nilang mag-conduct ulit ng investigation kung ano na ang nangyari sa ating claim sa Sabah at Spratly’s ng hindi nag iinsinuate ng corruption eh, baka may magandang kahinatnan ang ating hangarin. Sa mga nangyayari kasi ngayon, mukhang pinalalabas nila na wala ng matinong tao sa gobyerno kundi senado na lamang. Aba, eh, di panindigan na nila!
March 31st, 2008 at 11:15 am
As nationalist Filipino, we must support our claim to Sabah. It is our legitimate right that it belongs to us as evidenced by the continued payment of lease by Malaysia to the Sultanate of Jolo. Only because of conspiracy by the East India Company that it was incorporated in the formation of Federation of Malaysia that it comes into being part of Malaysia intead of the Philippines.
If only we have incorruptible leaders that can pursue this mission of recovery through diplomatic, legal and persuasion or sale if need be.
But before this, we must have to attain: Firstly;Patriotic Filipinos, Robust economy, Strong Military, Peace all over the archipelago (No insurgents/rebels), Employment for every citizen and food for every table in each household.
Secondly; Initiate dialogues with Malaysia with the participation of the Sultanate of Jolo on means to resolve this issue. At the same time another approach is to go to the U.N. or the International Court and diplomatic approaches with our ASEAN friends to pressure Malaysia to give in.
Only by exhausting all this approaches that we can truly stand to the world community that Filipinos are but one, undivided and will pursue what rightfully belongs to the motherland.
March 31st, 2008 at 5:53 am
tama si madame santiago dahil baka makalimutan ng ating mga mambabatas na meron tayong claim sa sabah at dapat ay buhayin na muli ng pilipinas sa UN ang claim natin kasi ito ay talagang atin.
March 31st, 2008 at 3:49 am
walang pag asa na tayo diyan.. eh“ ibibigay pa kaya nila ang sabah??
sabah diha mo oi’!!!! umaasa pa kayo
March 30th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
The Philippines should forget the Sabah issue, the government is incapable of governing decently the current territory, people, and resources as it is, to acquire additional territory will just add more dissatisfied potential Filipinos, wasteful exploitation of natural resources..
March 30th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
There are things that are easier said than done, but this should not stop us from claiming what is rightfully ours. Kailangang nga lang maging mabusisis ang ating mga mambabatas at isipin nila kung ano yung magiging pinaka-advantageous for the our country in terms of establishing our sovereign rights over disputed territories. Mahirap kung mag-eengage tayo sa war just to defend our claims over such territories since we don’t have military supremacy over other claimants. We just have to use existinginternational laws to our utmost advantage in setting our baselines. Dun naman sa iba nating kababayan, sana naman ay bigyang pansin din nila ang ganitong issue tulad ng concern na meron sila over the newest gadgets and other mundane things.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
it’s easier to face malaysia on the Sabah issue rather than to face China, Vietnam, etc on the spratley issue.No way can we win militarily against these countries. wishy thinking.
At least malaysia is at least 100 times weaker in military strength compare to China or vietnam. We do have a fighting chance to get it back. With Sabah, we have all the legal claims both undocumented or documented. With Sabah , there is already proven oil and mineral reserve as with Spratley its more on hula hula basis.
As in any art of war it’s better to size up your kalaban first .
In any international diplomacy , might is right.
March 30th, 2008 at 3:02 am
How can the Philippines take back the sabah when Gloria Arroyo, Already sold it to the chinese,…Attach iyan sa mga contract katulad ng ZTE/NBN why do you think Gloria Arroyo, Et al. Suppressing the truth because they’re guilty. Mga kawatan!
March 29th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Let us give up our claim to Sabah. At the rate corruptions in our country is going on, I don’t think we have anything better to offer to the people of Sabah. Our politicians doesn’t have the quality to govern. They are short sighted, they don’t have any long range planning, and our politicians are more interested on how they can short change their citizen.
Just look at the budget they have enacted. One thrillion and two hundred billion pesos. They think that by passing this budget, and without realizing where to get this gargantuan amount, they have already achieve there goal.
What do you read in the newspaper? A president that gives away one billion for military housings, in order to buy their loyalty; in the afternoon, another one billion and a half to buy certfied seeds (as thugh their is enough supply of certified seeds in the first place), and then another 3 billion for food supply (what ever it means).
These is a stop-gap measure, not worthy to a lame-duck president, one who has been travelling all over the globe, and then, and then, out of nowhere, she is face with rice crisis.
Sabah, by any yardstick, has overpass us in commerce and governance. It is a very progressive province, (if that is how you call it.), and to be controlled by a very inefficient governance, will definitely be an insult to them.
Let us keep our dirty linen among our self. They deserve something better than our type of corrupt and inefficient governance.
Come to think of it, the killing season of innocent victims is going on again. Victims are not only killed, they are dismembered and “chop-chop.”
Yet, our government doesn’t even raise their eye-brow on these occurance, Are they too calouse, that they have no more concience of what is happening around them? Where are our Bishops? Are they too blind to these killings aroundl the?
God save our country!
March 29th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
TO ours Filipino Politicians PLs, be patriotic in claiming ours RIGHTS and TERRITORY especially SABAH and SPRATLYS for the sake of FILIPINO people. thanks,
March 29th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
E yung mumuting islang bato ng Spratlys nahihirapan tayo.. E yun pa kayang Sabah?
And I think the Sabah claim is over. Nagkaroon na ng referendum sa Sabah before kung saan nila gusto. Philippines or Malaysia. Malaysia won.. Yun ang importante.. Sabah is in better hands with Malaysia, atleast conservative ang politika sa kanila.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:20 am
i think it is time now to strenghten the armed forces of the Philippines.. we must buy more battle tanks, modern combat helicopters, fighter planes, & battle ships. we cannot defend our country if our defense is weak, it’s as simple as that.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:40 am
toto na mahina ang pag claim natin sa sabah at sa pakiwari ko natatakot ang mga may kina uukulan natin na ipagpatuloy pa ang usapin na iyan.napakarami talagang pilipino na nandoon,at napakalit ng tingin nila sa atin dahil progresibong bansa ang malaysia
ipinapamulat talaga ng gobyerno ng malaysia sa mga mamamayan nila na ang sabah ay sa kanila at walang karapatan na mag claim ang pilipinas.bakit hindi din natin ipamulat sa kanila,sa buong mamamayan ng pilipinas lalo na sa mga kabataan natin at sa buong mundo na ang sabah ay parte talaga ng pilipinas.Ano ba talaga ang ikinakatakot ng ating mga may kina uukulan na ipag patuloy ang pag claim sa sabah.may pruweba naman tayo di ba? kaya lang dapat careful talaga .
tutuo na tuwing magbasa ka ng dyaryo sa malaysia lalo na sa sabah,laging may mga pilipino na kasama sa krimen,or pilipina sa prostitutions ( at lalagang nakakahiya naman ) pero parating pilipino lang ang lagi nilang ine emphasize sa mga balita, gaya ng…. a Filipino involved in this and that crime or filipinas involved in prostitution and and and.
ang tanong ko ay ito,ginagawa kaya nila iyon para mamuhi ang mga locals at ibang mga lahi sa mga pilipinos, lalo na sa mga illegals na sinasabi na nandoon sa malaysia esp.sa sabah?
it is about time na ipagpatuloy ang pag claim sa sabah para naman ma ipamulat at ma ipaalam sa buong mundo na may karapanatan naman talaga na mag stay sa sabah ang mga tinatawag na illegal filipinos dahil iyon ay part ng pilipinas
March 29th, 2008 at 8:24 am
This claim to Sabah is ridiculous…
The Philippines cannot even control the territory that it has…how would they expect to control wild Sabah?
Better yet, how would they expect to defeat the military of Malaysia? They could not even defeat the tribes running around the jungles of Sabah, much less a disciplined, organized and professional military, which the AFP is not.
More arrogant saber rattling of an empty scabbard.
Instead of having dreams of grandeur that will NEVER be fulfilled, much like controlling the Spratly Islands, perhaps the Filipinos time would be better spent concentrating on something simple, like feeding their own people.
March 29th, 2008 at 7:48 am
It is really very distressing to hear what is
happening in the country today.
Awhile ago, an alarming news that there was a rice shortage in the country, sending panic to our kababayan trying to buy one ganta of rice with patis and bagoong as ulam.
Before, it was the sumilao farmers in the news not eating rice because they are fasting to dramatize their plight about the land they till, should be the land they own.
As corn is the staple of our kababayan bisaya that made manny pacquiao a strong boxer, again an alarming news of shortage supply of corn.
now, comes the news that sabah a different kind of banana not as sweet as solo or lakatan, or bangalan of latundan, is now in the news that we should claim sovereignty against our neighbor after so hundred years.
do you know why this is happening? as we are in basic shortage of our staple foods.
Thais studied agriculture in our UP los banos and they now harvesting and selling a famous brand call Milagrosa rice in Seafood store in Los Angeles California.Miracle really happens.
When I was in the philippines, i used to see hectares and hectares of green and carabao all the way from Batangas highway to Laguna up to Manila when you smell bad air.
Also, from bulacan all the way to pampanga a green scenery.
where have all the green palay and carabao along the highways?
now all the palays became palmera, camella, all flowers.
Better ask Manny Villar, maybe he has the answer instead of being an instigator in the NBN investigation.
March 29th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Sabah is absolutely part of the Philippine territory since time immemorial and should be taken back because Malaysia illegally annexed it and our brilliant leaders are just fence setters when that country robbed our nation.
But how we will do it? since Marcos already dropped the claim because of fear for Malaysian retaliation by possible supporting Moro rebellion in the south, and used it for bargaining in hiring more Filipino workers in Malaysia.
The Philippines became so weak militarily, economically and politically because our resources are drained by corruption and our focus shifted more on non-stop political bickerings, while our neighbors are busy building up their economies and playing around with our sovereignty, to the point that we lost our moral stand on how to defend our territories.
Are we going to continue this downsided path towards destruction as a nation orchestrated by our corrupt political system? Now, China wants the Spratlys, then what? are we just going to watch them robbing us again?
Efren,
Florida USA
March 29th, 2008 at 6:50 am
Sabah can be distributed to those farmers rallying at the DAR and others primarily all those that were deported by Malaysia from that place to increase our rice production. Japan went to war just to get more turf for her food. Esperon is flexing his muscle for the defense of the Spratly, why not show his mettle to get Sabah. Diplomacy is already a thing of the past for the Philippines. Time to use brute force rather than kill ourselves of hunger and idiocy standing.
March 29th, 2008 at 5:04 am
Nong panahon ni Marcos kayangkaya nating tirisin ang Malaysia (Jabidah Operation) to claim and secure Sabah, but because of kapalpakan ni Ninoy Aquino, binulgar ‘nya too early ang plano, (bcuz of political ambitions) so palpak. I hope we can still do this time.
March 29th, 2008 at 4:20 am
Are we ready for the possible outcome(s) of this extremely challenging journey? Malaysia is not letting go without a good fight. Goodluck, Pinoy!!!!
March 29th, 2008 at 3:15 am
amdg84 Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
marami kasi sa mga kapwa natin filipino ang walang alam tungkol dun sa issue sa sabah. dun naman sa may konting alam, akala nila itinigil na natin yung claim natin sa sabah. dormant lang sya. siguro panahon na para maging aktibo na ulit at para makuha na natin ang talagang para sa atin.
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I believe, this part of the country’s legacy must be included in the country’s curriculum program….history and foreign relations. There must be a solid core of foreign Filipino correspondents who must focus on this issue and write about them regularly in our newspapers, especially in dialects or Pilipino so that more Filipinos can participate and join in their discussions. Tagalugin na lang at hindi yung pirming pa-inglis dahil sa we are excluding the very people who must learn about them…..who mostly have not gone beyond the college degree like the youths in the cities.
The strength of the nation lies in the hands of ALL THE PEOPLE. Barely 25% of the Filipinos have functional english literacy. Kung ang mga senador, mga lecturers, mga television pundits ay pirming nag-iinglisan, sila-sila lang ang nagkaka-intindihan. Ang mga tao sa kaparangan ng Philippines cannot join in, and do not get the knowledge and information they needed. Kaya, it is no wonder they do not understand why they should not sell their votes. Para lang silang mga multo na nagsisigalaw pero walang naiintindihan sa ating pagiging bansa, in relation to other foreign countries. Their idea of foreign aggression is still colonial period, yung mga foreign power attacking the islands. They have no idea that with a stroke of a pen, among thieves and traitors, their very own country and the future of their children can be sold at such a pittance, a little secret commission stashed in some accounts of these thieves in foreign countries like the United States….to be more exact, an account with brokerage houses. Anong naiintindihan ng mga Filipino about this corruption? Wala. Pero, magandang pakinggan pag si Gloria nagtalumpati na…but they are all designed, again, to dupe the people.
Condoning a liar and a cheat as the head of a government has a very deleterious consequences. And however rosy Gloria’s economic reports are…nobody should allow themselves to be duped repeatedly. Just look at the haggard faces lining up the USA and other foreign embassies to escape poverty in the country…and just look around how inept public officials are that they could not bring their agencies to function so that the bottom dwellers get relief. Look at the unresolved allegations of corruptions surrounding her and her cronies. Look at the spiraling downhill quality of education in the country. Count how many Filipino children can go all the way up to 6th grades. Count how many teachers can teach well, in both Pilipino and English. Cronyism is alive and well in the country: the reason why the inept with lots of loyalty to Gloria are now riding high and mighty. No wonder, the Philippines is not even mentioned or recommended for tourists to visit by foreign travel agencies. Report about the lack of sanitary toilets of majority of the Filipinos was made, not by Filipinos but by World Agency overseeing health, sanitation, and nutrition in the underdeveloped countries. Whatever good news to come out about the Filipinos abroad, it is the work of individual Filipino, with the help of their parents and well-adhered to Filipino values, not because of the prevailing situation of corruptions in the Philippines. The well-deserving, hard working Filipinos are really working very hard in order to maintain the respect of other people when in foreign countries. They have to fight that impression that is now pervading the sub-consciousness of foreigners that Filipinos are more corrupt, dishonest, and low-lifers as the political situation in the Philippines suggests. Meanwhile Gloria will continue in her effort to cover up corruptions and ineptness of her cronies by delivering rosy speeches about the economy.
March 29th, 2008 at 2:28 am
Who cares about Sabah? Claim Sabah so that another place to practice corruption?Philippines is world’s famous about it. Kahit ilang panalo si Pacquiao, pilipinong kurakot pa rin ang lumilitaw.
March 29th, 2008 at 2:05 am
We need to educate our people about this para ma involve ang boung sambayan about the Philipppine-Sabah issue
March 28th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
EH ANO PA BA ANG BAGO??? ANG MGA POLITIKO NATIN WALA NAMAN TALAGA ALAM KUNDI ANG MANGURAKOT AT MAGNAKAW….ANG INIISIP LANG NILA AY KUNG PANO SILA MANALO SA SUSUNOD NA ELECTION..O PANO MANALO ANG ASAWA O ANAK O KAMAG-ANAK NILA SA ELECTION…KAYA IMBES NA MAGTRABAHO SILA PARA SA BAYAN INUUBOS NILA ANG ORAS NILA SA PANGUNGURAKOT!!!!!!
YAN ANG KATOTOHANAN SA BANSA NATIN!!!
LAHAT NG POLITIKO KURAKOT…YUN LANG ANG ABILIDAD NILA!!!!
PINAPATAY NILA ANG PILIPINAS…PINAPATAY NILA ANG MGA PILIPINO!!!!
SANA KUNIN NA SILA LAKAT NI LORD…
March 28th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
marami kasi sa mga kapwa natin filipino ang walang alam tungkol dun sa issue sa sabah. dun naman sa may konting alam, akala nila itinigil na natin yung claim natin sa sabah. dormant lang sya. siguro panahon na para maging aktibo na ulit at para makuha na natin ang talagang para sa atin.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
The Philippines as a sovereign country is very weak. She is depleted of knowledgeable, capable, meritorious public servants. This is worse than a dysfunctional military. Qualified and good teachers in the country are getting schemed off to teach difficult children in USA cities. The numbers of good, qualified teachers, like the public servants, are also getting depleted. Combining all the depletions in all human resources sectors of the country, it is worse than having to be bombed or destroyed by a foreign enemy. The lack of opportunities for the true capable, meritorious Filipinos is driving them away and who are left behind? Filipinos who are opening the country for more plundering, this time, to foreign enemies, after they have done their own plundering of their own country for lack of appreciation for what matters to safeguard the sovereignty of the country.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
While the forest is burning, the monkeys are eating halo-halo with sabah. And don’t anyone disturb them, for it is I, not the forest, who will consume them.