TAMA si [Senator Miriam Defensor] Santiago baka madehado ang claim natin sa Sabah… dapat careful ang Congress sa pagpasa sa Philippine baseline bill kasi parang walang alam ang mga lawmakers na ‘yan sa mga territorial claims ng Pilipinas.
Dapat ‘wag na nating pakawalan pa ang Sabah.
– Amando Respicio Boncales, Illinois, US (via e-mail)
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April 1st, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Malaysia has a robust economy than the Philippines. Their per capita income is more than $10,000., while the Philippines is less than $3,000. That means the people of Sabah are three times more productive than the Filipinos.
There is no historical and legal evidence that Sabah belongs to the Philippines. The Sultan of Sulu never had an established army of soldier and civil servant to put a series of outpost in the hinterlands of Sabah to legitimize their claim, just like the early chinese and the Romans who created legitimacy to their claim by keeping an army in a territory. Spain created a legitimate claim of the Philippines to the Europeans by showing a powerful standing army and signed treaty with other colonist. The Sultan of Sulu is not a Sultan of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao, does he even exist, if he does it is his problem to claim his lost throne and territory. He already lost the territory of Sulu to the Philippines.
It is very clear in Geography that Sabah belong to the island of Borneo. There should be a Royal Republic of Borneo not Malaysia and Indonesia.
We already have so many problems in our country, problems that is so easy to solved but our elected official keeps on dragging all this problems.
Sabah is not worth fighting for, in fact Sabah would rather invade us and claim us as their servants, nanny, dh, and sex slave.
April 1st, 2008 at 12:48 pm
It is not rocket science. Sabah belongs to the Philippines via the Sultanate of Sulu. Philippines has a legit claim over the area. The Malaysians will do whatever it takes to deny us that claim. So as Hongkong is part of China, Sabah is certainly part of the Philippines.
March 31st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
kung ang buong issue ng sabah claim is about territory/sovereignty, malakas ang habol natin based on the history of the sultanate of sulu which can ba traced back early on the 17th century.
in the annals of history:
1906 & 1920 - nag remind pa ang US sa great britain na ng sabah ay hindi pagaari ng crown kundi sa sultanate ng sulu. nagbingi-bingihan lang ang GB.
may ruling and high court of north borneo nung 1939 that handed ownership of sabah to the sultanate of sulu.
all of these on top of the token $1500 rental fees paid by the malaysia govt to the heirs yearly.
nung 1963 nagkaroon ng tripartite meeting si macapagal (pilipinas), sokarno (indonesia) at abdulrahman (united kingdom of malaya) tungkol sa issue ng sabah.
ang malay kingdom that time eh hindi pa federation of malaysia at hindi pa nila officially hawak ang sabah at sarawak. sabi daw sa meeting na yun ng tatlong head ng bansang nabanggit, ang pinas at indonesia would not object to the establishment of malaysia kung magkakaroon ng investigating body ang UN para pulsuhan ang mga taga Sabah kung saan nila gustong umanib.
so nagkaroon nga ng commission ang UN na kinabibilangan Argentina, Brazil, Ceylon, Czechoslovakia, Ghana, Pakistan, Japan and Jordan. doon nakita nila na lahat halos ng mga taga sabah gustong sumama sa confederation ng malaysia.
sabah people looks happy and contented under malaysia. and none of them probably would want to assume a filipino citizenship and be among her woes. so ang tanong, kailangan ba ang opinion ng mga mamamayan ng isang lugar kung aling bansa sila gustong mapabilang?
kung hindi, may karapatan tayong i claim ang sabah. kung oo naman, wala na tayong magagawa kung majority sa mga taga sabah ayaw maging filipino.
IMHO, may karaptan talaga tayo na kunin ang sabah dahil sa pilipinas nga ito. kung makikidigma tayo para lang makuha sila ng pwersahan tapos ang mga mamamayan naman ng sabah eh rerebelde lang sa pinas dahil ayaw nga nila sumama, magkakaroon lang tayo ng eksena kagaya ng taiwan at china.
ang malala pa, baka sa pagpupumulit natin na kunin ang sabah at pabayaan lang din kagaya ng pagpapabaya natin sa mindanao eh baka mapilitan ang sulu na mag secede at buu-in na lang separately ang Sultanate of Sulu and Sabah. that might have chain reaction sa buong ARMM and we might be at risk in losing all mindanao and palawan to that.
ang malungkot eh technically kung sa atin nga ang sabah, tingnan nyo kung papano nagmumukhang iskwater ang mga pinoy na nag tatrabaho dun. it wasn’t so long ago nung nakita natin sa news ang maraming pinoy nag pinag ra-round up sa sabah for being called “illegal workers” while the people of sabah does not feel any assimilation at all sa pinas.
March 31st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
It wasn’t my intention to offend anybody regarding my earlier post. Kaya lang kasi nakakainis yung fact na may taong magsasabi na kalimutan na lang natin yung claim natin over Sabah pero di naman nya sinasabi kung bakit (pertaining to Ayessa). Lumalabas kasi na baseless yung opinion nya. I have nothing against those people saying that we should forget the Sabah issue, at least they’ve provided the reasons why they think so.
Sa kabilang banda, nakakalungkot lang isipin na buti pa pag laban ni Pacqiuao ang pinag-uusapan dahil halos nagiging isa ang Pilipinas pero sa mas mahahalagang issue eh sumusuko na tayo hindi pa naman nag-uumpisa ang tunay na laban. Sana lang pag isipan natin kung ano ang magiging long-term effect sa atin ng pagsuko natin sa supposed territories natin.
March 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
At least somebody here (romee) has an idea of what happened to Sabah and how Malaysia was able to “take it away from us”.
To those who doesn’t have an idea of the historical connection that existed between Sabah and the Philippines, it would be better if you guys review your Philippine history first before even commenting on this matter.